I am Indonesian. I love very much this documentary. It revealed a different angle of the history. Thank you for sharing with us, Mvr Joty. You add lots more puzzles to us to understand the history through your real experiences of how bad war was.

Made me wanna cry when she said she was proud to see what Indonesia has become in the end of video.

Terima kasih Oma Joty, meskipun pahit kenangan masa lalu tapi Oma tidak ada dendam. Oma Joty selalu ada di hati Indonesia.

@swono8216

Ай бұрын

Seandai belanda masih tengkoraknya saya jadikan hiasan lampu pasti ngeri2 sedap

@kukukakikakakkukaku

13 күн бұрын

​@@swono8216Sadis amat

I'm Indonesian and I love this documentary. It shows the war in the point of view of both parties, so there is no bias.

@Treinbouwer

3 жыл бұрын

That's way more interesting indeed. Otherwise you hear only war crimes and earnings that do not represent the real history.

Saya orang Indonesia, masa remaja almarhum nenek saya pernah bekerja menjadi tukang masak dirumah seorang dokter Belanda di kota Semarang, beliau bercerita pd ibu saya tentang masa lalu, bagaimana kebaikan majikan nya dulu, dan pada saat keluarga si dokter akan kembali ke Belanda, nenek saya dipanggil untuk diberikan perabotan yang akan mereka tinggalkan, tapi kakek saya tidak mengizinkan nenek saya bertemu beliau krn kekhawatiran suasana politik di jaman itu.

@kabibdahar

Ай бұрын

Berarti kamu kamu keturunan londo ireng.... kalau saudara buyut ku ada yg mati saat melawan belanda, dan beliau jadi pahlawan nasional.

@belle8924

Ай бұрын

jadi itu disebut londo ireng? Setau saya itu sebutannya baboe bang...masa muda nenek sy memang baboe tapi almarhum kakek saya juga berperang di pertempuran 5 hari di semarang 🙏 ​@@kabibdahar

@belle8924

Ай бұрын

Lebih tepat masa remaja nenek saya disebut baboe...tapi disatu sisi kakek saya juga ikut berperang dipertempuran 5 hari di Semarang melawan penjajahan Jepang, saya tidak membenarkan kolonialisme dan isu rasisme, tapi dari pengalaman yang diceritakan nenek saya dia bertemu dengan orang Belanda yang baik

@kaoridante3988

Ай бұрын

​@@kabibdaharkondisi saat itu tdk ada pilihan,menjadi babu belanda hanya untuk makan lbh baik.londo mmg mengatur semuanya saat itu

@faizalmaulana7563

18 күн бұрын

Kakek dan paman saya pun berjuang di zaman kemerdekaan. Dan dalam cerita mereka, mereka jg bertemu Belanda yg baik krn dipaksa pemerintah Belanda dikirim ke Indonesia. Dan ternyata mereka ada yg masih pelajar di sekolah menengah. Itulah politik.

the word "Dutch" made my blood boil a little, which shouldn't have been necessary. the vibration of the struggle is still passed down through the blood of our ancestors, which does not mean revenge. Indonesia is still Indonesia, the Netherlands is still the Netherlands. In fact, for the Dutch there was no peace if in those years Indonesia was still weak. Thank you for sharing this documentary video, it shows that there are a small number of Dutch people who are kind, making me touched.

And Finally Holland People would be able to Says " Indonesia you have done this very well"...Thank You Oma Joty...

@rhettkaison3247

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a tool to get back into an Instagram account? I was stupid forgot my login password. I would love any tips you can offer me.

@reyanshdevin4104

2 жыл бұрын

@Rhett Kaison instablaster =)

@rhettkaison3247

2 жыл бұрын

@Reyansh Devin thanks for your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm waiting for the hacking stuff now. Seems to take a while so I will reply here later with my results.

@rhettkaison3247

2 жыл бұрын

@Reyansh Devin It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. I'm so happy:D Thank you so much, you really help me out !

@reyanshdevin4104

2 жыл бұрын

@Rhett Kaison you are welcome :)

A message from Joty ter Kulve: Imagine you find yourself in a pitch dark room, can you fight the darkness by shouting, fighting ? No, the only way is to turn on the light. So many books, films are written about W.O.II. A war in which millions and millions lost their lives and innocence in Europe and Asia. For those people who got and get involved in a war and this goes for past, present and future history, the world becomes pitch dark, with just one question: how did we get into this mess and how are we getting out of it. This is reality. Reality has also taught us that all wars come to an end because humanity cannot afford to live forever in a dark hole, dark mess. So at one point after bitter fighting with knives, weapons or bombs, even atom bombs, people, a nation, nations become aware, understand that they have to talk, that diplomacy has to replace warfare. And mostly those who won the war will turn on the light. Their light. As for W.O. II, the U.S.A. had a defining part in the design of the political structure and the shaping of the future of those nations who lost the war, Japan and Germany. The conditions of the U.S.A. for the countries who lost the war were generous, hoping that this would help them to build democracies and renew their nations, which in the long run would be good for all of mankind. Germany drank the bitter cup of their defeat till the last drop. Painful and bitter the drink tasted. But together the German people managed to rebuild Germany with the help also of the money of General Marshall and the American citizens. They reshaped their nation: a new democracy was born. Germany started to blossom again and took her rightful place among the nations in the world. For Japan the transition was even more difficult. The Americans decided that their God-Emperor should become a people-Emperor . This had great consequences for the people of Japan. It was the respect and obedience to the God-Emperor for which the people were ready to die and which made them so cruel in their handling of the victims they made during the war. We victims were so afraid of the Japanese and Korean soldiers, because we knew that their willingness to die made us so vulnerable. Living on an island, the Japanese were never obliged to mix with other cultures, races. This fact certainly conditioned their thinking and positioning in the world. The fact that they had to surrender and accept to let the world decide to change their way of living must have caused a tremendous shock. Reality tells us that economically they managed to rebuild Japan; they still are the third economic power of the world. Contrary to Germany though, they are still grappling with their past during World War II. Let us face it, many nations ( also people ) are trying not to be confronted with not so nice things which happened in the long or nearby past. My nation still has not really come to terms with her colonial past. A shrinking world however forces people and nations to become transparent about their past. In a shrinking world with all the social media, (nearly three and a half billion are visiting the social market called Face-book) it gets tougher and tougher to hide important issues from each other. What’s more if we really want to solve the challenges mankind faces, we have to listen to each other and be humble. With the technological revolution changing the world, we also have to find a way to learn to observe ourselves, understand ourselves in order to understand our neighbors, our friends and enemies in order to find new ways to live together on this little planet. Joty ter Kulve Wassenaar januari 2015

@jalankoe

9 жыл бұрын

I am very glad that you (Joty ter Kulve) is still here to tell the story

@sanpatch8447

8 жыл бұрын

+Twan Spierts Why has Holland not come to terms with its history in Indonesia? My unscientific opinion is that whenever the Dutch folks I know speak about Indonesia with a sense of nostalgia--as if Holland was in Indonesia for the benefit of the Indonesians.

@eddsmokalot6200

8 жыл бұрын

+San Patch lol, good opinion. as if social system based on racial hierarchy was what we always needed and be grateful for.

@YaoiMastah

8 жыл бұрын

+San Patch Because most Dutch have parents, grandparents, etc. With nostalgic feelings regarding Indonesia. They get all teary eyed when you bring them to the annual village Pasar Malam (in Indonesia, the pasar malam is a night market, in The Netherlands it is a Indies-nostalgia event with food and stuff from Indonesia) and they smell all the spices. National Indies Day is still celebrated in elderly care homes, with old folks wearing their best sarong (even though they either never been to Indonesia, or, when in Indonesia, never worn such a thing). Most Dutch don't really understand why the Indonesians wanted independence, nobody ever sold that to us. It was a bit as if "well, the Germans took 5 days to take over the country, we held out a day longer when the Japanese came to the Indies, so we did quite well". Whereas the Indonesians were thinking "six days? really? you had one job. you know what, the belgians were right, next time we do it ourselves"

@afrianisinaga6009

6 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine our feeling from the colonization? we had been colonized 350 years and got torture by your nasty ancestors who are covetous and avaricious. The wound from the colonization won't be forgotten in every generation.

😢😢My family really loves this beautiful country. We're Indonesian now. My Opa's Familie came from Switzerland. They moved from the Netherlands to Indonesia.. from the time of colonialism...

For me and millions of indonesians 17 august 1945 is the independence day!

i wish she's my grandmother and we could talk about history all day . . i'm totally crying at 20.11 when she starts to cry :(

Amazing documentary and well-told from a wonderful woman who suffered as my parents and siblings in the Japanese concentration camps, Bersiap, and in 1953 experienced the great exodus ending in the US California among lots of sunshine and palm trees. My mom could not handle the cold and discrimination of the Dutch in Holland and decided to depart to the US Nevertheless, the story by Joty ter Kulve touched my heart knowing that people who are blend benefited from western and easter culture. Well done Mrs. Kulve.

Veel bedankt brader, het is heel belangeijk verhalen over the kuningan linggardjati gebow, ik won't hier vlakbij 16 Jaar geleden.... Ik Ben nu d gods geworden omdat veel nederlands hier gekomen te herineringen.... Prima!!!

Kesini lagi setelah Timnas Indonesia banyak keturunan, panjang umur Indonesia, terima kasih untuk cerita nya oma joty, selamanya kita terhubung walaupun ada pahit dan baiknya, salam dari salah satu warga Indonesia yg memiliki sedikit darah Nederland.

I was there, around the house when this recording taken sometime in 2012 preparing the visit of Ibu Joty and Her Son Pak Peter to Linggajati, Cirebon and around it.. nice

Thank you for sharing this with us Joty, my grandma's dutch too and she often told stories similar like this. She didn't left tho, she married my grandfather and live happily ever after in Bogor. You're right, things are moving forward here, and we Indonesian are so grateful for it.

Oma, we love the dutch! There were terrible things happening, but me personally don't hold any grudge to the dutch. To the dutch reading this, the country has a big place of your history, so yea you are welcomed here.

@ikanberapi2189

4 жыл бұрын

we like holland backery xD good cakes

@onceitisover

4 жыл бұрын

@@ikanberapi2189 hahah

@Setetoto

4 жыл бұрын

I really love Indonesian people. They’re very kind, welcoming, funny and hospitable

@jasmine6796

4 жыл бұрын

Ali the pyrofish I just heard about Holland Bakery from Chef Yongki Gunawan's channel. 😀

@harryblack7323

2 жыл бұрын

@KANYEda WESTaro LOL

grootmoeder, grootmoeder verhaal is echt vol van vreugde en verdriet. hopelijk oma altijd rijkelijk goden. Linggadjati een mooie en comfortabele plek, ik woonde daar in de buurt

Thanks you so much Oma Joty. You are too Inspiring. Your story opens my mind widely and you can also reveal the evidence of Indonesian History under Dutch Colony. But in my own perception, Dutch has helped Indonesian and created a great things in Indonesia. As Indonesian, I will always respect dutch as my Great Teacher of Indonesia. I hope Indonesia and Holland could live peacefully and also support each other. Thank You ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dank je wel Oma Joty. Je bent te Inspirerende. Uw verhaal begint mijn geest wijd en u kunt ook het bewijs van de Indonesische geschiedenis onder Nederlandse Kolonie onthullen. Maar in mijn eigen perceptie, heeft Nederlands Indonesisch geholpen en creëerde een grote dingen in Indonesië. Zoals Indonesisch, ik zal altijd respecteren nederlands als mijn Grote Leraar van Indonesië. Ik hoop dat Indonesië en Nederland kon vreedzaam te leven en elkaar ook ondersteunen. Dankjewel

Thank you for a wonderful documentary!

Watching this documentary with tears, seeing my people lived in poor n under pressure of Dutch. My grandfather was a soldier told me how he fought against Dutch, gathered in Jogja n how terrible they were ruled my country. But in some parts, I was thinking, Dutch had also made big influences to our people, one of example is built railway throughout Java, which it is good things for us. Indonesian were supposed to be living peace in their lands without any Dutch intervention..Dutch live in their land and war never happened.

A fascinating insight from a truly remarkable woman.

I went to this Linggarjati house in 1985 and 1994. It was an old dutch house with large water pool in the back. And in the yard i could find a dead chameleon there. Beautiful house.

As Indonesian, we were taught about the story of the Linggarjati treaty and Dutch Military Aggression I & II in our history lesson at schools.

Mooie documentaire, was hier in 1988 met een Indonesische vereniging op een reis van 4 weken door Java en Bali , mooi persoonlijk verhaal

Touching story. Indonesia has indeed done well for itself over the past decades.

Thanks Twan Spierts! I'm born in Suriname and my grandparents are from Jawa Timur. They were brought by the Dutch to Suriname to work on the plantations!

Thats make me remember my grand father whom a Soldier and the patriot of republic when fight in the independence war. Credit for him

i respect you joty about your honest to explain the history between indonesia and netherland. i hope netherland now aware of their actions

Its amazing documentary , much information n knowledge too , terima kasih-thx to oma for your story tell ❤

thank you for your stories about your childhood and about linggarjati oma Joti, hope you're always in a good health...🙏🏼

Oma joty..u always welcome here in Indonesia..our home.

Thanks Joty and Twan!

Dear brothers and sisters, colonialism cannot be justified by any reason or defended by any argument. colonialism is an extraordinary crime, crime is still a crime and what we have to do is not change history by as if giving the colonialists a positive angle, but apologize and not repeat it again and make it an important lesson for future

Very informative documentary with very good video quality!

thanks for tell a story from different angle

Thank you Joty for filling in another piece of the puzzle that is my heritage.

Grandmo joty thank you for sharing touching moment story, i cant imagin you born in indonesia and had to go frm indonesia. Now you return home. I live in batavia i was born in java. I always miss my hometown thata same feeling with you.

Zeer mooi bericht. Veel dank.

I like the documentary, studying from the other perspective, good job!

Dank u wel Mvr. Joty ter Kulve en Mnr. Twan Spierts voor de video.

Bedankt voor dit perspectief! erg waardevol!

Thank you Omma Joty..great sharing from you as an eye witnesses of the history of Linggajati and Batavia, i understand what your feeling in Indonesia as your place of birth and remembering all your families, great true story 😀😂

what a touch, God bless you Joty

GEWELDIG MOOI INTENS DOCUMENT! Ik ga het delen op mijn social media !

Excellent doco I never got to ask my father who was somewhere in Java. Thank you

Terima kasih atas ceritanya madame!

Thank You Oma Joty. ❤

Mooie film.

The history told from both sides... Very nice :)

Dokumenter yang sangat bagus. Saya jadi punya gambaran bagaimana hubungan emosional seorang indisch dan indonesia, sangat romantis. Disisi lain, film ini juga menjelaskan bagaimana ketegangan politik antara indonesia, jepang dan netherland. Sangat menarik, adakah film dokumenter serupa?

Womderful Story. Remarkable memory.Lesson learned. Bless you and bless all of us.

Thank you for sharing this history. This is a very good video filled with information we are only learning about in recent times; and it is of personal significance to many people only recently becoming more aware of the Indisch diaspora.

nenek dri bokap gw orang belanda yg lahir di indonesia, gw rasa kalo sampe saat ini dijamam internet ini kita hidup berdampingan orang belanda, mungkin udah ga ada lg perbedaan status orang belanda sm orang pribumi, semua sama dimata hukum dan persaingan bisnis, mungkin indonesia menjadi negara peleburan etnis pribumi, cina , arab, dan belanda-indonesia

@KarinaN

6 жыл бұрын

rulanoz rulan Nope. Gak mungkin itu terjadi. Yang akan terjadi cuma negara kita akan jadi seperti Amerika, Australia, New Zealand, dan Africa Selatan. Orang lokal disingkirkan dan cuma bule2 belandanya yang berjaya. Bahkan ketika jaman penjajahan dulu orang lokal itu menjadi orang kelas 3. Kelas pertama adalah Belanda, kelas 2 adalah Cina (karena mrk cukup pintar menjilat Belanda) dan terakhir baru orang lokal.

@booktendersclub1110

6 жыл бұрын

Kok yakin banget? Tahu kan kelas kereta? Itu kasta dan segregasi buatan londo. Eksekutif: Eropa putih Bisnis: Timur asing (Cina Arab) Ekonomi: Inlander (Pribumi) Kelas 3 paling bontot pribuminya. Jangan sampai ada politikus macam Geert Wilders di sini. Turunan Indo tapi merasa paling totok.

A moving documentation from the very one involved at events surrounding Indonesia and the Netherlands.

My hometown ❤❤

Wow oma Joty visit rumah kakek moyangnya yg skrg jadi museum. Aku nonton video ini dan sedikit ngarti narasi Inggrisnya. Yang jadi fokus perhatianku adalah sisi kemanusiaan dia dan kita semua.

Echt een geschiedenis!

It's a good film. Admire you Joty

Mooie film

Thank you very much for valuable video,as an indonesian we know from different perspective for bad history. Hopely we can learn together from our past for better live in the future.Thanks

thank you for the historical lesson. My best regard to The fine Lady, Mam Joty ter Kulve. she gave a best contribution in the area.

love this story. I have some stories maybe for interest as well, but then dutch-australians topics. can I upload them to your channel?

I am a Cirebon, your videos bring me what history Linggarjati built and shapes, that is nice village, I said Dutch influenced Indonesa, we need to forget the bad and take the good one both two countries

People rarely mention the alliance of Nazi party of german and japan. German attack the netherland and Japan attack the dutch and also the indonesian in former NEI. for the netherland kingdom, they rather let the amsterdam collapse under the nazi rather than let those 17000 islands out of their hand forever even until 1960's the dutch still want to take it back. as matter of fact the netherland kingdom never officially recognized Indonesia independence even until today. what make it strange, indonesia still adopted the dutch law.

Great historically, hopefully useful

Mooie Doco

Many Indonesian grow up taught to hate Dutch. Teachers and parents fill child mind with hatred, that has to be change. Special relation with Holland suppose to be good for Indonesia, and the other way around. We might be able to build a new VOC (the first global enterprise) in the right way. I believe there's still a chance for the two great civilization to rebuild its close relationship and prosper together. But the windows of opportunity is probably left open for the next two decades, after which there will be no more link between us, since most Indo / indishce / Dutch-Indonesian will became Indonesian or Dutch. While the systemic hatred education in Indonesia bring most young people to despise anything Dutch-related. But it will require massive effort to reform new Indonesia-Dutch relation.

@roodborstkalf9664

5 жыл бұрын

The hatred of a substantial number of Indonesians will continue for a long time. In the same way that lots of Indians hate the British. So there will be no special relation just an economic one and that's ok.

@vintageb8

5 жыл бұрын

So you expect young children should be taught to LOVE and ADORE their past colonizers? #think

@djongtm1040

5 жыл бұрын

You write well but it's totally not true. Show me text book or teachers who teach you hatred to Dutch ! They only teach factual history.

@xana6696

4 жыл бұрын

I am Indonesian and I do not hate the Netherlands and Japan, that time has passed, let's move forward. in fact I was amazed by the Dutch building polders, maybe Indonesia should ask for cooperation to build polders in Jakarta, because Jakarta has begun to sink

@alexanderfooy723

4 жыл бұрын

Irwan Santoso Not love and adore, but accept.

Love it

His story was shocked me

When interviewed by a retired Dutch army officer after Indonesian independence they said that going to Indonesia was the same as surrendering oneself in a lion's den

I love history ❤

And until now.. The Netherlands govt still admit that Indonesian independence was on December 27, 1949.. not August 17, 1945. I'm Indonesian.. my great grandpa was shot by Dutch soldier in Ambarawa central Java. Since then his children (including my granny) had a really hard life. I don't hate Dutch or Netherlands. I understand that it was war.

I'm Indisch or half bleed. my great great grandpa is a Dutch and her wife is an Indisch

GReat witnessing... Hopefully you always healthy... When good and evil collide at one place...

Published on 21 Dec 2021 The future Wow

Yes Sukamo declared independence in 1945. But the dutch backed by the british tried to re-establish their rule for four more years. Thankfully for both our countries the dutch gave up and recognized indonesian independence.

@n1bigdaddy

10 жыл бұрын

This is a reply to D1AK0NDA

@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl

10 жыл бұрын

The Dutch were signatories of the United Nation chapter. The problem was the collaboration of Sukarno with the Japanese.

@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl

9 жыл бұрын

xxxPassiexxx The argument goes much deeper than that. Freedom of the sea is what they use to completely delete fish stocks. Native peoples go starving because of factory ships on their coastline. We concentrate on the Japanese while we are much worse. Not many people eat whales.

@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl

9 жыл бұрын

Rizqon Kasir it was wrong from hindsight. VOC was organized piracy. Than the colonial period, kultuurstelsel followed by the ethical period. Exploitation at it's worse patronizing at its best. Glad it is all over easy to judge now with our computers and cell phones. The media was easy to be manipulated. The people mostly lived in cheer ignorance. It's not my habit arguing with people who are correct.

@eddsmokalot6200

8 жыл бұрын

+Rizqon Kasir ducth lover...lmao

Danke Oma Joty.

Bagus bagus,itu sangat bagus

mix of pride and shame, story of every colonial power

@afrianisinaga6009

6 жыл бұрын

Are you proud to kill a million people?.

@dewannee

5 жыл бұрын

@Sinaga, come one bro, you are missing the context, let it be a history, our history as human. I hope you come to understand what I'm trying to say here

@EA_SET

5 жыл бұрын

@first priority is humanity Chinese suppression is done by the people itself that makes it worse.

@khalifaljibrang6028

4 жыл бұрын

@first priority is humanity Chinese start it first, they want to bring communism to our country with force and murder, but many Indonesians did not agree about Communism that's why they fight back

@MSI_kr

4 жыл бұрын

@@khalifaljibrang6028 kate siape? Ane org indo,cerita yg selalu ane dengar org pribumi bakar org cina karna iri dan dengki,mereka lebih mapan dan pandai berdagang, investasi jadi ada rasa iri dan amarah. Sampe sekarang masih keliatan

waw, sangat menyentuh

I'm glad to be partly of Indonesian....ini poin akhir sebuah kejujurannya. Menjadi Bagian Orang Indonesia

Hello nyonya/madame joty....☺️🖐️ Semoga sehat selalu nyonya joty... 😊😊 I love netherland

Senang mendengar cerita nenek joty Dan saya merasa nenek ini sebagai warga negara Indonesia. Itu bentuk kekewatiran seseorang lahir dan besar di Indonesia,ketika jauh dari tanah kelahirannya.

I'm Dutch Indonesian. yes pass sins from our forefathers can be forgiven but it's important to know the truth and not to forget the past because history has a way of repeating itself.

Deze mevrouw doet me een beetje aan mijn oma denken. Interessante documentaire. Misschien kent u haar? Barta Stein/Karsten? Zij was toen ongeveer 17/18 en komt uit Semarang.

Now i know as Indonesian, it just the Dutch wanted their colony back to them coz Japan had been given Indonesia to the Dutch after Mr.Soekarno declaration the inpendence of RI. NB " Indonesian had been listed on PBB "

Wow! there's actual footage of internment camp

we love indonesian of peace country

@tonystarksdaughter6173

7 жыл бұрын

Hey Mr.Wade Wilson lol

nenek dari nenek ibuku tinggal di belanda,, dulu sering maen ke indoneisa,, sekarang udah jarang,,

im indonesia,s i can speak that let me say a Word merdeka 😊

Do you can speak Indonesia ? I heard some parts

😭 Merdeka !!!

Thanks Joty for your sharing about Indonesian history, many indonesian people still have negative thinking about Indonesia and most of them know nothing for example, they think Holland is a country, Who is stupid? Indonesia does not make computers, laptops cars etc, they only produce them in licence, Indonesia never produced or developed a car, the Ships are produced and developed by western countries like the Netherlands ( the fregates ) G20 is 10 countries plus the European Union (Netherlands)

@jacqueshuysman3351

6 жыл бұрын

TruthHurts000 #23d

My grandfather dr Akgani in linggarjati

Let’s talk about Raymond Westerling !!

@Pfsif

4 жыл бұрын

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

semoga kita dapat pelajaran dari masa lampau. dunia yg lebih baik bukan perang. saya perhatikan pengucapan bunyi vokal "R" bhs Belanda Omma Joty persis spt pengucapan dlm bhs Indonesia. byk yg bilang bunyi "R" bhs Indonesia sulit hanya org asli (native) yg bisa pas, gak lebih gak kurang kadang tegas kadang halus tp tetap terdengar bunyi "er" nya bahkan negara tetangga yg melayu aja gak bisa. lebih enak didengar bhs belanda omma joty dari pada suara Narasi di video, berdasarkan bunyinya saja krn saya gak bisa bhs belanda.

@jimbrismanaroinsong238

4 жыл бұрын

Orang" belanda yg tinggal di hindia belanda, logatnya agak mirip sprti pengucapan bhsa indonesia.. mngkin krna tinggal dilingkungan mayrakat indonesia.. Berbeda dengan logat belanda saat ini

sudut pandang yang berbeda

Salut Oma !!

I hope the people of the Netherland would recognize 17 Aug 1945 as the independence of Indonesia.