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Bach: Flute Partita in A minor - Allemande (Benjamin Zander - Interpretation Class)

For more classes like this one, please visit the Benjamin Zander Center - www.benjaminzander.org/
Carlos Aguilar, flute
Interpretations of Music: Lessons for Life
with Benjamin Zander
Dave Jamrog Audio/Video

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  • @ccflute
    @ccflute5 жыл бұрын

    25:11 and every single note comes under limelight, each shining like a diamond... wonderful teacher, great student.

  • @wajang1000
    @wajang10006 жыл бұрын

    I find most modern Bach recordings lack proper phrasing interpretation. The maestro is spot on with this interpretation.

  • @johannsebastianbach1649

    @johannsebastianbach1649

    5 жыл бұрын

    wajang1000 well I wrote my phrasing to be distinctively difficult. Let’s take my Violin Ciaccona for example. Take a 12 year old violin prodigy who can play the Sauret Cadenza perfectly. First they look at the violin piece, next they call it a piece of cake, then they play it and it isn’t good. Only musicians with several years of experience under their belt, not just natural talent, but musical integrity. It requires masterful ability to play phrasing in a good percentage of my pieces.

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    I still find the faster more ' common ' interpretation more appealing when played by an experienced musician

  • @goscott444

    @goscott444

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johannsebastianbach1649 Either played as an exercise, or played in True Baroque Virtuosity from the heart!😁

  • @eplumer
    @eplumer Жыл бұрын

    I have been wrestling with phrasing of this on alto recorder. This master class has given me a great new way of interpreting the phrase boundaries. Bravo and thank you to teacher and student for sharing …. I only wish the lesson had continued into the second half of the Allemande

  • @ElflautistaprofesionalFlauto

    @ElflautistaprofesionalFlauto

    Ай бұрын

    😅😅😅

  • @briananderson8428
    @briananderson84282 жыл бұрын

    He is magnificent! To have this kind of perspective from a non-flute player is invaluable.

  • @clarissamorais370
    @clarissamorais3704 жыл бұрын

    The piece sounds beautiful on the piano.

  • @arcticwanderer2000
    @arcticwanderer20004 жыл бұрын

    The KZread video of Kate Clark on a Baroque flute is probably the best rendidtion of the piece I have heard.

  • @mikrokorg4403

    @mikrokorg4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    Amen

  • @jeanluc3168

    @jeanluc3168

    3 жыл бұрын

    Root is far better, and the baroque "flute" is called Traverso, a baroque flute is a recorder.

  • @arcticwanderer2000

    @arcticwanderer2000

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jeanluc3168 You will have to list some pretty impressive credentials to convince me the head of the historical flute department at the Royal Conservatory at the Hague doesn't know what she is talking about when she refers to the transverse flutes that were played in the baroque period as baroque flutes: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6umrdyGepmWkrA.html

  • @jeanluc3168

    @jeanluc3168

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arcticwanderer2000 Exactly, it's a baroque "tranverse'' flute and it's a baroque flute because there are many kinds of "flutes". It was usually called at that time a traverso. For me, its sounds really better than a modern flute. It seems very hard to play this instrument

  • @Muzikman127

    @Muzikman127

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was absolutely wonderful. Thank you for sharing!

  • @jophielnicholls276
    @jophielnicholls2765 жыл бұрын

    it's great! he talk him how to BREATHE through the piece! so extremely important

  • @brunolelissantos1116
    @brunolelissantos11166 жыл бұрын

    A piece that modern musicians rarely know to perform how it has to be.

  • @CaioLesnock
    @CaioLesnock5 жыл бұрын

    OMG I never thought it would be played like this O.O It makes much more sense now!

  • @mysticmouse7261
    @mysticmouse72614 жыл бұрын

    Soul-piercing Bach. The flute an arrow to my heart.

  • @dalsegno1251

    @dalsegno1251

    4 жыл бұрын

    🙄

  • @manuelgonzales6483
    @manuelgonzales64832 жыл бұрын

    Such a beautiful piece. When it is played at "break neck speed" it loses it's beauty. ❤

  • @Diogolindir

    @Diogolindir

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree. Im not a classical trained musician tho I play some classical guitar pieces and most professionals play Bach at such speed that the piece can't breath properly and that annoys me.

  • @lemonemmi
    @lemonemmi5 жыл бұрын

    Finally some sense in the light speed performance practices of today... Music is not a race of who finishes first!

  • @audreym9001
    @audreym90016 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently learning this piece he is such a great teacher ^^

  • @RodrigoSchoenardie
    @RodrigoSchoenardie2 жыл бұрын

    Bravo!!! I´m currently studying this piece and found this suberb interpretation! Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge!

  • @simonho6536
    @simonho65365 жыл бұрын

    Bravo maestro! It's always about phrasing!

  • @inakimendinueta6119
    @inakimendinueta61192 жыл бұрын

    Simply amazing!

  • @minne8212
    @minne82124 жыл бұрын

    This is not just a lesson in BWV 1013 it's also a lesson in teaching

  • @matthewreed4038
    @matthewreed40386 жыл бұрын

    It drives me crazy that he was never told to give the last note in the phrases enough space.

  • Жыл бұрын

    So I’m not the only one. It feels like he’s cutting all the last notes of the phrases in half, so he can squeeze in a breath during the other half. I wish he would take more time.

  • @lynnrixson3013
    @lynnrixson30136 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you for sharing😊

  • @1pocolento
    @1pocolento6 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!!

  • @ThomasMulliganFlute
    @ThomasMulliganFlute6 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting phrasing I like it !

  • @lil-reaper0777
    @lil-reaper07772 жыл бұрын

    Did the first ending for my freshman highschool solo still gonna work on this and see if I can get the whole thing for my Jr or senior year

  • @ludoviclagache3132
    @ludoviclagache3132 Жыл бұрын

    ❤ Cool... Je viens de trouver une des meilleures explication et interprétation à mon goût de l' Allemande. Un grand merci pour votre vidéo.

  • @heidifluteatl
    @heidifluteatl2 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful!

  • @Horibonda
    @Horibonda Жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @percyvolnar8010
    @percyvolnar8010Ай бұрын

    The allemande isnt about playing slowly with each note shining like a diamond. The allemande is a dance that is danced within a certain sized space. This piece is an example of bach playing the PERFORMANCE SPACE. The way he set this up is for the previous 4 notes to ring as a chord in the rooms natural reverb that sit underneith the next 4 notes played. Look no further than the Baroque and Traverso flute players to hear precisely how this piece should be played and what spaces it is played in.

  • @ricardonascimento1928
    @ricardonascimento19286 жыл бұрын

    Gold!

  • @syrinx1976
    @syrinx1976 Жыл бұрын

    Bravo 👏

  • @jaguarisabeast
    @jaguarisabeast5 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this piece sounds better on baroque recorder

  • @Nara1Family2Rulez3

    @Nara1Family2Rulez3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Usually on traverso.

  • @philhan5713
    @philhan57135 жыл бұрын

    I wonder why is it guy so close accepting the suggestion!!! He is always rushing into the first note of the next phrase without giving enough space for the silence. Benjamin once said silence is the extension of the emotion.

  • @Rik77

    @Rik77

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is hard when on the spot like this. But the point is to give him a new perspective he can think about and practice at home.

  • @Peter-vd9wi
    @Peter-vd9wi4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting;

  • @nedricklamarproductions4960
    @nedricklamarproductions49604 жыл бұрын

    those tritones at 17:56

  • @kiboplua
    @kiboplua6 жыл бұрын

    didnt manage to find a recording that plays it the way Mr. Zander tries to tell us, do somebody knows one? it should be so beautiful.

  • @matthewreed4038

    @matthewreed4038

    6 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering the same thing.This isn't quite right, but is played at a relaxed tempo, with the phrases (and the performer) given room to breathe: kzread.info/dash/bejne/imSImK2yo7bLmrQ.html The baroque flute is also much nicer.

  • @jaysparc

    @jaysparc

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is a Baroque era work, if you want to listen to it interpreted in the style of the Baroque: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYRolZKmgti8mso.html

  • @qq_qq_qq

    @qq_qq_qq

    Жыл бұрын

    Can't find any, guess no one do bach in this way.

  • @mehradahari
    @mehradahari4 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find a single recording that uses this phrasing, which now I'm obsessed with.

  • @vayasaberlo8
    @vayasaberlo86 ай бұрын

    I play it on the classical guitar, it is not a simple piece at all🎉🎉🎉🎉❤

  • @taxtengo7427
    @taxtengo74276 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, very insightful! I was struggling with the phrasing at bar 14 (and others) myself. This piece almost lost its charm for me but with proper phrasing it can be touching once more!

  • @gizbrito
    @gizbrito4 жыл бұрын

    É a flauta envolvente Que mexe com a mente De quem tá presente As novinha saliente Fica loucona E se joga pra gente

  • @anthonysmith1228
    @anthonysmith12286 жыл бұрын

    BUM BUM TAM TAM

  • @tamashayesaba

    @tamashayesaba

    5 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂right!!

  • @kinguitar1987

    @kinguitar1987

    5 жыл бұрын

    OMG! Why?

  • @laltrapartedelmondo3965

    @laltrapartedelmondo3965

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@kinguitar1987 Ritmo!!!! Metronomo!!!!!! J.S.Bach...!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @WasemNator

    @WasemNator

    5 жыл бұрын

    You got it

  • @musikinspace

    @musikinspace

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a brazilian, I apologize for that

  • @seanmarshall7529
    @seanmarshall75292 жыл бұрын

    A good teacher molds himself to the interpretation of his student.. overruling his student puts the limelight on himself. the student vanishes

  • @VitalijKaramakov
    @VitalijKaramakov3 жыл бұрын

    Whats carlos instagram? I want to see more of his work!!! That was just brilliant

  • @kightremin
    @kightremin4 жыл бұрын

    I find that piano sounds attractive

  • @bobafetteste
    @bobafetteste6 жыл бұрын

    13:36 feeling the tension.

  • @howardcohen6817
    @howardcohen68175 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you could give us your opinion about the deceptive-cadence before the "real" cadence at the end of this first movement. Do you think of it as d-minor in 1st inversion or as an A7 chord. Because I do the repeats, it's a very long movement. Due to this I can think of the deception as A7 allowing me to go further and not emphasize the deception or contrarily - like knowing where the keys to my house are yet enjoying being home standing on my porch before calling it a day - wait there a tad on d (6-3). Is this as ambiguous/ambivalent as I feel? My teacher used to call this a "three times a-minor cadence" with which I didn't agree (45 years ago). While I'm on the subject, I like to put the second repeat BEFORE this deception, playing a long A (similar to the long E in the first ending of the first half, making this cadence by the 2nd time even more deceptive. I feel the balance of the piece is thrown off by what I feel - but can't substantiate - this "copyist mistake" accomplishes. I'd appreciate your inspired opinion in this matter, very much. Thank you. And thank you for your inspired instruction which contribute in a major way in helping to make and keep my life wonderful.

  • @howardcohen6817

    @howardcohen6817

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah, by this deception in d-minor I help it along by adding two grace notes (f' and d'') before the a''.

  • @chriswalker9964
    @chriswalker99642 жыл бұрын

    Does Benjamin Zander dye his hair with a tinge of purple? Because I'm feeling that for him.

  • @hellbooks3024

    @hellbooks3024

    7 ай бұрын

    No

  • @laltrapartedelmondo3965
    @laltrapartedelmondo39655 жыл бұрын

    Ritmo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Metronomo!!!!!!!!!

  • @Lira_man

    @Lira_man

    2 жыл бұрын

    La música no es metonómica 🙄

  • @khtnsuwdih
    @khtnsuwdih4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see Benjamin take a death metal masterclass.

  • @mikrokorg4403

    @mikrokorg4403

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure, i'd love to see him take a dark techno class on skillshare aswell but here we are...

  • @NomeDeArte
    @NomeDeArte Жыл бұрын

    But what about circular breath? Can be that the answer?

  • @hellbooks3024

    @hellbooks3024

    7 ай бұрын

    I wonder if anyone has tried that

  • @jasonahbh4880
    @jasonahbh48802 жыл бұрын

    Music could be difficult if you don't listen carefully. I do the breathing techniques from listening.

  • @ACAC9292
    @ACAC92925 жыл бұрын

    This Carlos guy is soooo cute! And he's a flute player like me! We were meant to be. 😂

  • @user-mt5dk6dg8b

    @user-mt5dk6dg8b

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wow make sure he's gay first I'm also a male flutist/flautist But not gay *GOOD LUCK*

  • @ACAC9292

    @ACAC9292

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@user-mt5dk6dg8b Lol he doesn't have to be gay 😂 he can be a very attractive straight man. And yay another fellow male flautist. ^^

  • @user-mt5dk6dg8b

    @user-mt5dk6dg8b

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ACAC9292 glad to be a part of our male flute society

  • @thatonekevin3919

    @thatonekevin3919

    5 жыл бұрын

    lol same ^~^

  • @zengier9191

    @zengier9191

    3 жыл бұрын

    Found his insta he's gay.

  • @Kuesa
    @Kuesa4 жыл бұрын

    lol can we get an interpretation for the rest of the allemande

  • @alexandrechatty5439

    @alexandrechatty5439

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you really understood this, you should be able to build an interpretation of the development by yourself.

  • @Kuesa

    @Kuesa

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alexandrechatty5439 Yup!

  • @TheXeeman
    @TheXeeman4 жыл бұрын

    anime hair

  • @kaiserthegreat
    @kaiserthegreat5 жыл бұрын

    If this is how people would play Bach, I would probably like Bach much more.

  • @rikuzavala
    @rikuzavala5 жыл бұрын

    Tiri riri to see and then to c and then to 👀

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    what happened to that dude's face at 13:40? kkkk

  • @ciabbiamolastoffamariabice734
    @ciabbiamolastoffamariabice73411 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lizagrekoulova1409
    @lizagrekoulova14096 жыл бұрын

    I saw a mouse on that pic

  • @BostonPhilharmonic

    @BostonPhilharmonic

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait.. what?

  • @kevin-parratt-artist
    @kevin-parratt-artist7 ай бұрын

    The acoustics are dead. Actually, I would like to hear this lad after a term of master classes with James Galway ... learn about air, and how to sail over passages, .. breathe

  • @happylittlemonk
    @happylittlemonk3 жыл бұрын

    I play flute (intermediate). Two things to add to this. If the flutist takes a deep breath quietly then it will not be noticeable. Another technique which is very rarely used, is circular breathing. It works best on double reed instruments and haven not tried it myself. The technique is to fill your cheeks with air before running out of breath and inhale through the nose while deflating your cheeks. That way you do not need to pause for breath at all. It requires a lot of practice.

  • @Jojo-bd3jg
    @Jojo-bd3jg10 ай бұрын

    No circular breathing.

  • @michaelbarahona2406
    @michaelbarahona24062 жыл бұрын

    I wish I could pay it.... how dumb I am... u_u

  • @Juanesloc
    @Juanesloc4 жыл бұрын

    Esto no suena bien en flauta traversa

  • @pedromachado8513
    @pedromachado85135 жыл бұрын

    Does anyone knows the music played at 6:15?

  • @kyo0386

    @kyo0386

    4 жыл бұрын

    bach cello suite no 5 allemande

  • @wouterruifrok7642
    @wouterruifrok76429 ай бұрын

    As a recorderplayer I understand the difficulties with the right phrasing and breathing. They made it much more logical, but I don't agree with all choices. I have more problems with the students articulation, accents an way of playing ornamentation... Maybe the masterclass puts too much emphasis on harmonical understanding?

  • @idaksnatur8316
    @idaksnatur83163 жыл бұрын

    Ihr quält euch ganz schön ab, was?! Naja...wenn man nicht dabei war, ists schwer Bach zu verstehen, nicht wahr?!:)))

  • @johndaker9489
    @johndaker9489 Жыл бұрын

    His notes are way too short, you need to give the notes the full value.

  • @piccoloflute7128
    @piccoloflute71284 жыл бұрын

    Well, one can agree or... disagree with the teacher's opinion of where the phrases are, no to speak about the style...

  • @alexandrechatty5439

    @alexandrechatty5439

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not agree with everything because he ignores the two voices of this piece : he only focuses on a harmonic ( chords ) point of view. But I have to say the student was much better with this lesson : the idea to make the breath part of the melody and not a problem is really fundamental.

  • @jnelson508
    @jnelson5084 жыл бұрын

    I found it really distracting to see him stick his tongue out with each breath.

  • @tubaguyry3540
    @tubaguyry35405 жыл бұрын

    The new, slower tempo, yes. The new phrase choices, no.

  • @dirtyjohnathan5612

    @dirtyjohnathan5612

    3 ай бұрын

    L take

  • @thethikboy
    @thethikboy6 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately this young flautist has learned a romantic style of playing which is not appropriate for Bach. Oddly, Bach is best when it's played dry and let the notes speak for themselves.

  • @ninoding

    @ninoding

    4 жыл бұрын

    thethikboy also it sounds better on the baroque flute, it takes less air to play so the player can play a longer phrase without taking too many breathes, on the modern flute it’s a different story because you’ll need a lot of air to play

  • @Rik77

    @Rik77

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ninoding I think that's partly because modern flute players are taught to play a full thick sound all the time when it's not necessary for this rep.

  • @ninoding

    @ninoding

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rik77 agreed

  • @laniwalburger2784

    @laniwalburger2784

    Ай бұрын

    I'm sure Bach would love his music played in more modern styles

  • @AndrewEdwardsFlute
    @AndrewEdwardsFlute5 жыл бұрын

    Try it faster. One could then be hearing the harmonies perfectly well then without fussing. And CPE Bach instructs us that where nothing else is indicated notes should be assumed to be detaché. So the young flutist's instinct was correct in the first place.

  • @hualinjia1590
    @hualinjia15905 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately that’s not for Baroque

  • @mi2c20
    @mi2c204 жыл бұрын

    He’s quite distracting. 😍🙃😅

  • @Terge812
    @Terge8126 жыл бұрын

    Très étouffant comme prof, pas d 'accord avec les phrasés,trop de bla- bla, chaque phrase est appuyée, trop de ralentis...

  • @thethikboy

    @thethikboy

    6 жыл бұрын

    The flautist has a lot to un-learn when playing Bach. Bach is best when played drier - ' plus sec'.

  • @melusine9496
    @melusine94965 ай бұрын

    pas bon, même pas bon du tout!!!

  • @saxophonistberlin1290
    @saxophonistberlin12903 жыл бұрын

    This is a terrible interpretation of Bach. This is no Allemande anymore. He made a romantic Interpretation of this barock movement. Horrible

  • @narekavakianmusique
    @narekavakianmusique5 жыл бұрын

    So boring both of them, unfortunately. There is 4th solution actually.

  • @nicholasscott9672

    @nicholasscott9672

    5 жыл бұрын

    could you explain your solution or provide a recording you think utilises it? I felt zander's approach was a definite improvement on how I'm used to hearing this piece but if there's another way I'd like to hear it

  • @nicholasscott9672

    @nicholasscott9672

    5 жыл бұрын

    otherwise it's pretty useless to snipe from the sidelines while offering no advice

  • @narekavakianmusique

    @narekavakianmusique

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasscott9672 the flute playing is definitely not only about where we need to breath, there is a lot of places in this movement where we have a possibility to change the colors of the sound. The problem of this student is not the tempo, the problem is that he don't know where the phrases are going and when there is a new harmony... And in any case if you are trained enough to breath very quick and deep you don't need to play it soooo slow to be comfortable. Really for me it's too much, sounds too pathetic. Actually I played this so many times in different way, included as in this video and everytime I found something new. Sorry, I doesn't want to be sharp I love maestro Zander a lot, he is a great musician who inspires me. I wanted just to say that there is a lot of very good performances of this piece. In any case who cares what I am saying with my bad english, all we need is in the music :D

  • @narekavakianmusique

    @narekavakianmusique

    4 жыл бұрын

    And my friend, if you think that I am only speaker, give me your e-mail I will send you some very good recordings of this piece. I can even send you one of my performances if you want, even if I don't think it is good one :)

  • @leo5208

    @leo5208

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@narekavakianmusique I like your comment most of all. This piece can be phrased in different ways and still be played musically - that is the genius of Bach. Any claim that there is only one right way to play it, or that one way is necessarily better than another is eccentric and arrogant. BTW, I prefer a faster tempo, too!

  • @yunglungwong3789
    @yunglungwong37892 жыл бұрын

    If the performer showed enough respect to the audiences, he would practice more before the class. He got wrong interpretation of Bach music, and exhibited inadequate music talent as well.

  • @josee1984

    @josee1984

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't be such a prick If the commenter showed enough respect for the performer they wouldn't post such unhelpful critiques. Don't you think this man practiced? You don't know his story.

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