Full human FOV in a small form factor coming soon, I'm beyond excited. Keep up the gut work guys.

@KinkyJalepeno

Жыл бұрын

Dont get excited... Even a 4090 sweats doing a decent job over 2 4k displays.. You are adding 2 more displays to render. Its not just double the workload though, you are increasing the pixel blackmajicfukery by a few orders of magnitude.

@KinkyJalepeno

Жыл бұрын

240 degree FOV is way beyond anything thats not a lizard or a bird that has eyes on the sides of its noggin ! Full human ain't going much above 60 degrees either side of your nose end if it was pointing directly 0 degrees North. Just look straight forward and put your arms straight out like a T pose and wriggle ya fingers.. You may have a dim idea something is wriggling somewhere off to the side, but ya wont see any arms. To close to your peripheral vision.

@carlhil2

Жыл бұрын

@@KinkyJalepeno *5090*

@alexanderlozano8004

Жыл бұрын

Foveated rendering can help with that

@stevesteve1983

Жыл бұрын

@@alexanderlozano8004 Yep foveated rendering would sort it out nicely. No need for full resolution across the entire display all the time when our human "sweet spot" means we can't see detail at edges from point of focus...but seeing shapes and movement there which we are sensitive to IRL but in a HMD will be amazing!

I’ve been waiting for a progress in terms of FOV for ages, this is finally happening

@olivercook2589

Жыл бұрын

Yes seems like we’ve been stuck on binocular FOV for way too long

@TonyDrecaps

Жыл бұрын

Finally!

@danielemorabito2357

Жыл бұрын

Finally? It will take at least a couple of year before you will be able to see it in consumer vr headset

@lagillas

Жыл бұрын

now to wait... 2025 first PCVR with this tech. 2028 fixes around the gaps 2030 first standalone 240º fov 2035 first stand alone 240º fov with decent res, and battery.

@MkSPR

Жыл бұрын

Now we will wait a progress in GPU capacities for this screens😅

Nevermind human FOV, I'd be happy with stereo audio. 😂

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

So clever you! :)

MY LEFT EAR ENJOYED THIS !

@3DIYshow

Жыл бұрын

omg thank you for this I only had my right earbud in and was wondering why I could only just barely hear anything 😅

@WiNNiep00h

Жыл бұрын

Haha I just put my right earbud in the case for charging^^ I thought it had no battery anymore

@Wooskii1

Жыл бұрын

Lol, thought the balance in the car was off

@almaximus03

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@MNHemiGuy

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

oh woooow! I'm soo excited for this new VR tech. I really wish all new VR headset will also adapt this tech.

THIS is what I want. I don't care half as much about zero screen door effect as I do about fully immersive FoV.

Between this, Crystal, Bigscreen, and 12K, nice to see some innovation for 2023.

@KinkyJalepeno

Жыл бұрын

While I adore, and am happy with the size of the Bigscreen, I mean I have to clap my hands for design and technology.. But I'm still looking through a snorkel mask at best... They just shouted they'd increased FOV with new optics, but it was literally 2 or 3 degrees. If Bigscreen was 130 - 140 FOV with just a standard 5mm jack for headphones, Id throw money at them.

@KannaKamui

Жыл бұрын

@@KinkyJalepeno That is misinformation. It went from 93 to 102, glare was reduced and more. Overall, beyond has hit the limits of its form factors physics limitations. Beyond innovated with extreme lightweightness, size and clarity being together. No one has pulled all three of those off at once before. The tech shown here with hypervision is only iteratively new; it is a edit of existing lens tech. The flaw it has is edge distortion, which they made a excuse for with panel size; leaving out the detail that they used a smaller one to not show the distortion at that point, and everyone here glossed over the fact that while you don't hyperfocus at the horizontal edge of your fov eyes wise, the clarity at said point does matter greatly regardless of it. We can perceive the difference in practical tests. The second misleading thing done here, is the lack of facial interface consideration. In here they make you hold it close enough for eyelashes to rub on them. Bit misleading with that part.

It's very impressive. The seams between the screens are only barely perceptible. Way less than a typical multi-screen setup. It takes only a moment and you stop noticing. There's possibility of fixed fovaeted rendering for side screens on stanalones. There's no distortion. Basically a big improvement

Peripheral vision is the single biggest factor in immersion. More than black levels, pixel density, resolution, frame rate, brightness, heaviness of the display, etc etc. It is the difference between looking at a traditional screen like we have been doing for nearly 100 yaers, and being inside the experience. This is very, very exciting.

The future of VR! Thanks Seb!

140 fov with 40 ppd is dreamy all by itself, but 240 is one heck of a statement piece! Remarkable work! Gifted engineering. One thing crosses my mind: Does this leave any room at all for eye tracking? Let alone the more advanced facial microexpression tracking. Some people just want a fabulously vast sim display, and some people want to be socially immersed in VR Chat and the like.

This is what I want to make it to the consumer market. I'd also like more vertical display area.

It's amazing to see how quickly VR tech is improving and shrinking... LETS GOOOO!

this is what Bigscreen should be producing imho

I was just looking at these and speaking with Arthur today. Very interesting product and quite impressive. He also provided some thoughts on our approach to achieving an ultra wide FOV. Good product and a very friendly and talented CEO.

I would imagine we are seeing what we will be able to buy for "normal" amount of money in 4-5 years but just knowing this is now actually on the table makes me smile, I'm sure there are still a lot of challenges and as ppl in the comments have mentioned there is always more that we as consumers want but this is a huge step in the right direction :)

@kidwave1

Жыл бұрын

10 years away still

Lol Marco isn't easily satisfied 😂, he stays ice cold even with the latest high-tech in his hands 😅

@justpostedagain

Жыл бұрын

"Oh yes, there it is." LOL

@bestboy007

Жыл бұрын

nope. when he sees something good he will react amazed. this time no amazement cause its shit.

@jeanderbar

Жыл бұрын

Stoic German

@mrburns366

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he's like me... Blind with his glasses off. He may not be impressed because he just sees a blurry mess. lol

These 140 fov lens in cheap head set with 3.5k per eye for 500 would be amazing

Cant wait for consumer applications

I cannot wait for this! This is exactly what ive been waiting for! Please come out with this soon! =)

Thanks for asking the question about curved displays, ive been wondering the same thing for a while. Can't wait to see these optics in products!

Best idea in years as regards VR development! I'm glad these guys are working in the most underrated and forgotten aspect of VR headsets: FOV, which is 90% responsible for inmersion and therefore for a realistic experience.

I can’t wait for this to be productized. I bet it’ll look sick as a headset design too.

What an exciting development. Thanks guys for the presentation.

So you made the video 5 months ago (about half a year), and he says we will see it in VR headsets on the market in 2 years... so I guess we will see this in VR headsets in about a year and a half...wow. Very exciting. I've been so disappointed with how there has been no progress in FOV for any of the more mainstream VR headsets for so very long.... so it is nice to see this prototype!

A window to the futur, thank you for showing this. And congratulation to the engeneers who made this possible.

Shoutout to vrtuber Eric Hartley in the background. Marcos calm reactions to normally amazing things are sublime.

@DrTom1946

10 ай бұрын

Marco is a typical 'Chuurman'! Remember Sargeant Schultz, 'I see/like nothing'!

Awesome, Marco could barely contain his excitement ;) I would be getting excited like Seb fore sure!

@randomguy-

Жыл бұрын

How could he; it was just as advertised. :)

@pixxelpusher

Жыл бұрын

I believe Marco is a robot sent back from the future. Prove me wrong ;)

@DrTom1946

10 ай бұрын

"I'll be back" says Marco from the future!

This is the dream, human FOV.

Very great News! Also funny to see, they all got HP Omen Hardware, in our Office, we also use Omen and we are very satisfied.

The audio quality of this video is amazing, it sounds like every thing is coming from the left....super cool

This is simply amazing! He said to expect this in a couple years. I think sooner if some of the bigger companies (you listening Meta?) show interest. Thanks again Seb. and Marcos! You are the best!

@dtrjones

Жыл бұрын

Meta will be aware of this, but it's not there thing to produce a PC headset. and unless they borrow the M2 chip from Apple, it's very unlikely to appear in the standalone Quest Pro either. They would need to start a new line of premium headsets which has about as much chance as me winning the lottery.

@kaecatlady

Жыл бұрын

@@dtrjones, honestly, I'm okay with that. Meta's habit of turning more open-sourced companies into Meta-only... well, we already have way too much of that in VR right now.

@thelelanatorlol3978

Жыл бұрын

@@dtrjones Given that more than a tiny part of their quest 2 sales were specifically for PCVR (i'm one of them) it would not surprise me at all if PCVR headsets were somewhat back on the radar

Resolution has been solved by now. I’m glad FOV is being fixed next. Quest 4 please have at least 180FOV!!!

OMG this is going to be amazing!

The FOV of that headset is better than the FOV of the audio in this video 💀

Amazing what great R&D is going on on the background. There is so much nice tech to come.

so Vin Diesel making revolution in vr technology...good for him :)

Looks awesome - a glimpse of the future!

Not every day Sebastian says “wow.” Very exciting !!

Very interesting mate! 😮

What would you say the resolution or the clarity was like compared to the Pimax Crystal.

Sebastian, any updates? I have been using my XTAL 8K for two years and was wondering if these would be able to be retrofitted to my 8K or if Marek has said anything about the VRgineers consumer headset he mentioned in 2022. Thanks.

Pimax, you better get a wriggle on with your 12K headset, because it looks like you have competition hot on your heels now! 😅

Great video and super hyped for the wider fov in the future! But please, check your audio is not stereo in one channel only next time haha

How will prescription lens adapters fit?

My left ear totally loved this video

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

Oh how creative you!

Just AMAZING.

Wow. Full Immersion. 😮

hey buddy what would the clarity compare too along with the fov

Marco very spontaneous and says what he sees. Thanks.

@JimBob1937

Жыл бұрын

Yes, a more critical eye.

What about the Sweet spot? I can move my eyes always seeing in focus?

we need this!!!!!

Hey Seb, 😄👋 Loving the stereo audio but I was curious how was the vertical and how was the pixels per inch did they feel good? Any screen door? Even though that's hard to see nowadays. Hopefully valve takes something like this and runs with it or HP

@jamesleicher

Жыл бұрын

for moment thought my head set playing up

My left ear is so impressed !

Can't Wait Immersive!

so what happened to wrap around screens no seems ?

my left ear really liked the video

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

That's a new one, congrats!

@BrodieGameplays

Жыл бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV thanks, put a lot of thought into it

going to start saving lol they sound awesome

This is incredible

Ive been banging on about FOV since the launch of the quest 2. my Vive I bought in 2016 has 110 degree fov and it raged me when the quest 2 came out with barly 90 degree fov. I'll not getting another headset now unless I see a decent improvment in FOV. sure id love the see these lenses become the standard but I cant see this company making enough to make differance on their own, I hope their propriatary lens technology is licenced out to other manufacturers so companies can actually get them into their headsets.

How was the edge to edge clarity and sweet spot ?

nice stuff 😄

Looks very impressive!

My left ear was amazed to hear that!

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

That's a super new and super creative comment! Congrats!

"Yea yea that's great let's move onto the second demo over there"

How hard it is to copy the left audio channel to the right so we could hear something?

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! :)

I was thinking about the curved displays or folding ones as well. I figured it would be easier on the GPU to process 2 images rather than 4. But they may have it all setup in programming in the head set it self to take the 2 images and route a portion of each to the 3rd and 4th displays. That would make it to where it shouldn't affect GPU performance. Easier said than done I imagine.

Valve Decard, Quest 4, Pimax, Take Notes!

Interesting As someone with no peripheral vision and a small fov I do wonder how this will effect people like me, will it be useful for us in vr headsets?

Awesome

Congratulations. Hope to see a commercial product soon.

Well we're getting there.

Seems like yesterday Palmer Luckey started touting a new, actual road to real vr with oculus vr. That was ~2014. It has come a long way, but has a long way to go. For me, its probably still another 10 years away before it is actually feasible.

Impressive. Really want to try such a thing.

Can someone please explain where these would be used? I’m completely new. It’s in my recommended.

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

In VR headsets!

Wow I need this.

I’m in love with the way all of them in this video struggling with english 😂😂 this is so cute

@Kryojenix

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is struggling. Everyone _(everyone)_ has an accent.

@danbad1380

Жыл бұрын

Vr seems not to be an english deal😁😁

When will they make an actual vr headset with this? Or are these just lenses for enchancing immersion?

Put this on a racing helmet and you don't need 5 monitors to actually see the car & track or who's behind you!

How exciting! I wonder how it looks around the nose, does one see the screen border there or not really? I'm really looking forward to the day where one can put on a headset and can't visually tell they have it on. This is a nice step in that direction.

would love to see a Geordi La Forge style wrap around headset like this

Sweet. Would like to get one of those soon lol

Hay Colin can we buy shares in this ? Thx

Please..MRTV, say them to put this full FOV on next Pico 5 headset ❤️🤎🥺

This is incredible the next generation of VR headsets will be insane. I expect one of the two new headsets Lynx is working on will use this technology.

@NextWorldVR

Жыл бұрын

Suspect?

@Meianju

Жыл бұрын

@@NextWorldVR I must have been thinking of writing expect but my 3am brain was clearly stalling 😂 Thanks, I will correct my mistake

sehr gute Frage mit den Curved Displays die Idee kam mir nämlich auch sofort als ich es gesehen hatte und die Erklärung warum das nicht so gut ist, war auch sehr interessant. Danke

I’m literally throwing money at my screen while watching this video

@olivercook2589

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah and…bye bye Pimax?

@gothicvillasgaming

Жыл бұрын

I just threw my safe box into the screen... it was a bad idea

@olivercook2589

Жыл бұрын

@@gothicvillasgaming 😂😂😂😂

My left ear was happy to hear this...

why they dont use flexible oled?

Better start saving folks.

no comment vid on apple vision pro?

research done decades ago said you need at least 110 deg for immersion so this is good

Does the right audio channel work?

my left ear really loves this video

@mixedrealityTV

10 ай бұрын

How creative! :)

@saltmuffinLGDPS

10 ай бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV wait why did my man respond, was not expecting that

I wonder if these lens can be used with adjustable IPD setup

@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn't they be? This is just a prototype, whoever they sell them to can make that decision

You beat me to it! Great video, Seb

@mixedrealityTV

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to your article!

@Skarredghost

Жыл бұрын

@@mixedrealityTV Thanks! But I already know I can't compete

Cannot wait to upgrade mine at some stage as smaller form factor is everything- much more comfortable,less heat build up , less pressure on nasal bridge and major optical benefits 💪💪💪prob pricey and a wait but awesome nevertheless.

mr clean makes a insane vr glasses headset haha !

My right ear really felt left out on this one... very cool tech though, thanks for covering it.

i got fpv drones and a few PC VR headsets, this shit is awesome, the technology has jumped incredibly in the past 20 years