Award for vegan cheese makers in Berkeley rescinded
A Berkeley company was about to win top honors in a prestigious food competition for its vegan blue cheese until a change of rules led to a big stink. Andrea Nakano reports. (5-2-24)
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Just wait until they find out peanut butter isn't actually butter
@pame4345
Ай бұрын
Or that peanuts aren’t nuts
@CCRoselle
Ай бұрын
Not usually much ham in a hamburger?
@NancyPancyLovezYou
Ай бұрын
@@CCRoselle😂
@Redneck_Hero
Ай бұрын
Hotdogs don't contain dog......that I know of
@davidcooke8005
Ай бұрын
Just wait until the find out 'I Can't Believe It's Not Butter' isn't butter.
There's no way big wisconsin cheese cartel are going to let some vegan cheese take over the scene.
@blackpalacemusic
Ай бұрын
Exactly! 😂😂😂
@AllyTV1
Ай бұрын
Yeah, but it kind of backfired. This is just free advertising. I wanna try it now, wouldn't have known if they didn't get disqualified.
@meatpopsicle1567
Ай бұрын
Um, more cheese is made in California, so that is a silly statement.
@MakinaDeMuerte
Ай бұрын
@@meatpopsicle1567 Yeah? Well, maybe California should market it better because all Wisconsin is known for is cheese and serial killers. Maybe there's a correlation.
@Jeff250lbc
Ай бұрын
First thing about Wisconsin cheese cartel is they have nothing to fear from chemical chunks of chemical.
I really want to try this. I'm so lactose intolerant I can't even eat most cheeses anymore, or even butter, and I miss good cheese more than anything else
@hefoxed
Ай бұрын
Are you sure you're lactose intolerant and not allergic or sensitive to something else in milk? Lactose is sugar. Butter is fat with only trace amounts of lactose. I'm super lactose intolerant, but butter is fine and cheese is ith lactose pills is generally fine.
@d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
Ай бұрын
@@hefoxed Yes, I have been lactose intolerant since I was an infant and do not have an allergic reaction to milk. I have been lactose intolerant for several decades and know about and use lactase pills, but they still don't protect me against all issues at this point and it's easiest to just avoid dairy most of the time I am also not the only lactose intolerant person to eventually become so intolerant to no longer tolerate butter very well, and it can be shocking how much butter is in a lot of baking. I am aware that it has only trace amounts of lactose, but I also react to some 'dairy free' creamer, and that's how I found out that some of those also contain trace amounts of lactose. I wasn't always so severely lactose intolerant and was a bit incredulous when I'd found out about a friend's partner who was unable to eat any dairy and thought perhaps it was an allergy. But now I understand
@lisasteel6817
Ай бұрын
I started as lactose intolerant then moved onto milk protein intolerant which ruled out the last vestiges of happiness in dairy form. The struggle is real.
@deadbeatbrad5484
Ай бұрын
Try raw milk, or goats milk ❤
@d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
Ай бұрын
@@deadbeatbrad5484 Lol, you clearly don't understand what I already wrote. Goats milk also has lactose in it, and I can only barely have tiny amounts of butter, so NO. Raw milk also has lactose, so also NO
Best advertising possible
Gotta say I feel bad for the guy. Weird that the rules got pointed out a week before the end of the competition on a technicality. The kokum plant certainly seems to be recognised in Indian cusine as safe, and like the company points out, they could have easily have submitted a substituted recipe.
@selanryn5849
Ай бұрын
Or just don't use cosmetic-grade ingredients not approved as food safe in food. After that Daily Harvest tara flour debacle, it's just not worth the risk.
@dahawk8574
Ай бұрын
"just eat the real thing" ...said no cow ever.
@dahawk8574
Ай бұрын
@Anolaana, this guy is capitalizing on his cheese being disqualified. Akin to the Streisand Effect, he gets far more free publicity this way. Colbert is the perfect example.
@andromedaspark2241
Ай бұрын
@javierpondersfood intolerance is a big reason. Cheese/dairy sets off autoimmune issues in some people. Same with gluten or lots of other proteins, including animal. It's really not just vegans. You have no idea how nice it is to have fake Mac & Cheese when it's your favorite food but makes you deadly ill. Soooo glad these exist. Some are really good.
@starshine3588
Ай бұрын
Well…like he said…he could have used cocoa butter so why didn’t he just use that to begin with. And just because India uses this Kokum plant in their cuisine doesn’t mean it’s safe….India still uses child labor and crams children in hot rooms to work…they also make fireworks and neither of those things are safe for their children. They also allow tons of people to ride on top and on the sides of trains…so I don’t really think India has safety as a first priority for their citizens.
Climax can use this video as free marketing. What great advertising for free.
@gigginbig3
27 күн бұрын
Advertised how real cheese is superior
@MoiraWillenov
12 күн бұрын
@@gigginbig3 THIS. !@#$ that Vegan crap.
Having the award rescinded is bigger for the cheese than winning it. They let vegan compete never expecting them to come close to winning.
@siiiiiuu7
Ай бұрын
Spot on
This is awesome for those of us allergic to dairy but still want pizza and other things with cheese
@Dewkeeper
Ай бұрын
@@silentnot4812because it tastes like cheese, and we like cheese. Are you thick in the head?
@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880
Ай бұрын
Or those who are lactose intolerants.
@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz
Ай бұрын
@@silentnot4812 there's nothing wrong with pretending. if you can create tasty comfort foods without exploiting animals, why wouldn't you?
@meatpopsicle1567
Ай бұрын
@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz Sounds like a First World problem, to me. Without chemical processing and artificial ingredients. this stuff is not possible.
@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz
Ай бұрын
@@meatpopsicle1567 you don't need artificial ingredients to make vegan cheese. lol, it's easy. Take shredded cabbage, add water, let it ferment. You have a probiotic liquid full of lactic acid, used to ferment other foods. OR, sprout some wheat, rye, or barley grains, and do the same. Add water, let it ferment. Add to blended cashews, or coconut milk, or soymilk. etc. Let it ferment. Add to a sift to drain extra liquid to control thickness. It's really not that complicated.
“Kinda moldy “? It IS mold. Just, carefully crafted mold.😂
Kokum butter has been used in India forever, and it’s also a great skincare ingredient.
So by dairy interests trying to keep them from winning, we’re getting to know that their product could replace the products of dairy interests.
@ajvintage9579
Ай бұрын
Exactly!!! It’s glorious!!
@janefreeman995
Ай бұрын
@@ajvintage9579There are many who have dairy allergies. Alternatives are a wonderful accomplishment.
@meatpopsicle1567
Ай бұрын
@@ajvintage9579 It's toxic. The artificial plastic cheese industry is trying to eliminate choice, to force us to consume expensive artificial man-made products containing toxic ingredients that were not meant for human consumption. You can eat that crap, if you want, but do not dictate to others what they may consume just to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.
@rwincott251
Ай бұрын
Streisand gonna streis
@meatpopsicle1567
Ай бұрын
@@ajvintage9579 No. It's toxic and artificial. They're trying to feed us nothing but poison.
How is kokum not GRAS certified? It’s used in chocolate. 🤷🏻♀️ edited because iPhone autocorrected to Kokomo, because autocorrect is stupid. 😆
@joedirt1965
Ай бұрын
GRAS is not a legal requirement to sell a food item. It's just big retailers will not sell non-GRAS food for insurance reasons.
@Tser
Ай бұрын
Cocoa butter is used in chocolate, kokum butter is different. But Climax already switched to cocoa butter anyway. Kokum butter is used extensively in some places as food, though it does have some sensitization (allergenic) risks. It's just never been studied by the FDA.
@TheEudaemonicPlague
19 күн бұрын
If autocorrect is giving you trouble, turn it off. At least you noticed--seems like half the world are too stupid to check auto complete and auto correction. Or are iphones that bad, that they won't let you turn it off?
@youngspaghettii
11 күн бұрын
Kokum butter is not in chocolate youre thinking of cocoa powder maybe.
@youngspaghettii
11 күн бұрын
@@Tsercocoa powder is used in chocolate. Cocoa butter is a separate product
I miss blue cheese so I'll be on the lookout for this one if it's safe for anyone with a dairy allergy.
Wow... I want to try it. 😯
Reporter, "I don't know how you did it but you have the green, kinda moldy, marbling inside." Maybe by adding the green kinda moldy stuff when it's made? Lol.
@user-bv7mk8id5t
Ай бұрын
Wait, adding it? But it’s mold, you don’t need to add anything. The way she said it, did sound a little dumb though. My response to the reporter would have been, -well it’s mold.
@eskallagrimsson
Ай бұрын
@user-bv7mk8id5t they inoculate the cheese with penicilin when making it, that's how it's made. I just thought it was silly the way she put it. Like, of course it has it in there.
@jpaxonreyes
Ай бұрын
Your cheese has a nice cheesiness.
@a.mathis9454
21 күн бұрын
@@jpaxonreyes”you can really taste the foot”! 😂😂
@Kr0nicDragon
13 күн бұрын
Food colouring, ‘nuff said
The point of the rule is to make sure that the cheese can be legally sold. Without GRAS, you have to notify the FDA of the use of the ingredient and that could cause review and recalls.
@siiiiiuu7
Ай бұрын
Ok, but this was supposedly realized a week before the competition. A bit silly and understandably suspicious in the eyes of some
This reminds me of the food theory MatPat did where he pointed out that the requirements for the Michelin Star favours French cuisine and excludes other foreign cuisines so almost all the winners are French restaurants. If anything this is just more evidence of food gatekeeping and it's going to make people realize how doctored/manipulated the information they are getting about food is. Also big dairy is a little scary.. the way they reacted when the government (of Canada- I'm Canadian so maybe it also happened in the States but I wouldn't know so I can't speak to that) tried to remove/lower the recommended milk intake on the food pyramid because it's not as good for you as the companies paying for their place on the food pyramid say it is... let's just say anything I say about them is alleged for safety
@w.reidripley1968
Ай бұрын
So, TwisterT: any idea how estrogen might survive stomach enzymes digesting it? It would have to survive intact to affect the, ah, estrogen-sensitive. Since the Caucasian population has been consuming milk products since the Neolithic, it's pretty well shown to be unproblematic in anyone not lactose intolerant, by so wide a majority that lactose intolerance is more an outlier than a universal among Caucasians. (Milk products like cheese, maybe butter, and yoghurt; these keep.) "A little learning is a dangerous thing // Drink deep, or taste not, the Pierian spring" ---Pope See also _Milk,_ Mark Kurlansky
@KC9UDX
17 күн бұрын
Everything we are told about "healthy food" and "unhealthy food" come from the same kind of method as the 6 foot rule a few years ago. Most of it comes from 19th century socialists and their authoritarianism.
@doobybrother21
17 күн бұрын
Japan alone has over 400 Michelin star restaurants.
There was one substance that was being used as an alternative flour & ended up making people very sick, but is sometimes eaten in south America. Tara flour that was used in Daily Harvest foods. It was in the news a couple years ago. Thats why the new rule exists.
4:18 yes coexist! I'm not vegan but I have excema with dairy so alternatives is for others like me!
@lakesnake2005
11 күн бұрын
I agree....but it still isn't cheese.
@MickiFroGr8ness
11 күн бұрын
@@lakesnake2005 so true. I wonder if the definition of cheese will change to include vegan cheese or will it just stay the same. Am I rambling? (I think I'm rambling) 😂
Imitating something like blue cheese, where they don't fake the mold, would probably be much easier than faking a mildly flavored cheese.
Best marketing ever. Now we have heard about this cheese. Thanks dairy folks!
All that science is gonna make it as expensive as cheese
@Lilboozibert
Ай бұрын
It's way more expensive than regular storebrand cheese.
If I’m eating something inventive and vegan, I would like it to be certified as generally safe to eat.
@mnspstudioful
18 күн бұрын
Kokum is used in almost every Indian restaurant in the US. If you've eaten vegan/vegetarian Indian food, you've eaten kokum. Therein lies the issue: the FDA and local food safety agencies only apply these rules in certain, very limited categories. What I'm trying to say is, I think this was a conspiracy and the fact that a vegan cheese was evenly competing with non-vegan cheeses was the actual reason for disqualification rather than any food safety issues.
Why is fake cheese allowed to enter a cheese competition in the first place?
@wayneessar7489
Ай бұрын
Praise cheezus.
@Nuttyirishman85
Ай бұрын
@@wayneessar7489 if you eat that stuff, jeebus is giving you the middle finger.
@nillyk5671
Ай бұрын
It's cheese not fake cheese.
@Nuttyirishman85
29 күн бұрын
@@nillyk5671 cheese is made from milk curds, it’s not cheese.
@FruityHachi
26 күн бұрын
because the organizers nor competitors didn't think they'd win, they let vegan alternatives enter the competition in the past and nobody complained since they were used for jokes, but this time when the alternative even surpassed dairy competitors that's why they ran into problems
Hey, this is local company for me. I can't wait until next year when they start retail sales of their products.
@beardoodle9835
Ай бұрын
Same! I can't wait for retail sale 😋
If it isn't animal based how can it fit the definition of cheese? Wasn't that distinction settled when margarine was invented and sold as a.substitute for butter?
@GamesFromSpace
19 күн бұрын
Are they supposed to invent a whole new name nobody recognizes? If people call American slices "cheese", I don't see a problem.
@hermenutic
19 күн бұрын
@@GamesFromSpace That problem was addressed over the issue of referring to margarine as butter wasn't it?
@GamesFromSpace
19 күн бұрын
@@hermenutic If you mean the dairy industry sued the hell out of them and tried to drive them completely out of business is "addressed". That wasn't for the benefit of consumers.
@hermenutic
19 күн бұрын
@@GamesFromSpace Our opinions differ I think because of the different ways we understand the topic.
@Kr0nicDragon
13 күн бұрын
I can’t belie it’s not butter, because it’s not butter
They made poor Andrea film that in a parking lot at 2am.
Imagine, suddenly going blind, and still being able to taste food. Thanks Chef.
I prefer my cheese not come from a 3-D printer.
@FruityHachi
26 күн бұрын
you prefer your cheese with pus and estrogen instead
They would have won ….yet the competitions organiser Good Food Awards…..changed the rules last minute…….😡😡😡😡
@lordgarion514
14 күн бұрын
Yes, they changed the rules to only allow ingredients that the FDA allows to be sold. You put something in food, that's not GRAS by the fda, and you can get into some trouble. Seems more like that rule should have been there all along, it's just that the people that make real cheese never got around to using ingredients that were not GRAS, so didn't really think about it until somebody tried using a non-GRAS Ingredient. Not that long ago, hundreds of people were sickened by Tara flour, also a non-GRAS Ingredient.....
Can we see the list of ingredients? .
@hobibrowsing1168
Ай бұрын
No... better dont
@sgtbaker81
Ай бұрын
That would spoil the illusion.
Looking forward to seeing this on Canadian shelves soon!! 🇨🇦
@meatpopsicle1567
Ай бұрын
Right next to the bugs and grass your lords and masters demand you should eat!
@waynemanning3262
Ай бұрын
Can’t be classified as cheese without dairy in Canada
@blazingstar9638
Ай бұрын
@@waynemanning3262yeah but they’ll call it Chee’se or something 😎
@HillLeeHill
Ай бұрын
@@waynemanning3262 @blazingstar9638 Not true. Have you not ever seen the packs of "DAIYA Dairy Free Mozzarella Cheese Shreds" at the grocery store?!?!?!
@lisasteel6817
Ай бұрын
I love all the defensive comments assuming people want to eat this cheese because they are hippie bug eaters and not because they are maybe allergic to dairy…
I here for the puns 😂
If I were blind AND I couldn't see..
The dairy, as is the meat, is a huge industry, and they hate , i mean hate the idea of plant based alternatives. Thats why they sue companies that use milk or burger in their plant based options, sayit confuses consumers, but is really abput fighting the plant based industry. Never underestimate peoples greed. Also as a vegan i have no intrest in things tasting like the " real" thing , i just want options that taste good, are healthy and don't involve the suffering of animals. I dont consider food based on death the epitome of ecstasy.
@suzannezoubeck5216
Ай бұрын
If you're eating a whole food plant-based diet, that's great. If you're not, you're eating ultra-processed unhealthy vegan crap (as most of the vegans I know do...and I know a lot of them). The Climax website doesn't tell you the ingredients of what's in their products (and I say products because I don't consider it food) or tell you how they make this stuff. Consider reading the book Ultra-processed People: the science behind food that isn't food by Chris van Tulleken. ❤☮🌎
@joann5051
Ай бұрын
@@suzannezoubeck5216Sadly even people who are eating meat are eating Ultra processed foods as well. So you can't just say vegan food is ultra-processed and it's bad for you. I do Whole Foods vegan as often as I can but being a working person it's awfully hard.
@suzannezoubeck5216
Ай бұрын
@@joann5051 I CAN say vegan ultra-processed food is bad because it IS unhealthy. The video was about vegan cheese and not meat, so my focus was on vegan foods. Do I know that omnivores are eating ultra-processed food? If I read the book Ultra-processed People by Chris van Tulleken, I would (and I did), and I have no problem saying ALL ultra-processed food (the kind with multiple ingredients we can't pronounce and creation processes we can't do in a non-lab kitchen) is unhealthy. Ultimately though, eating anything is better than eating nothing (vegan or not depending on your proclivities), but the results you get from eating a WHPB (whole food plant-based) diet is not the same as the results you get from eating a vegan diet that includes (or is mostly) ultra-processed foods if your interest is in being alive and healthy for a long period of time (as well as being a vegan). If people are mostly interested in animal rights and don't really care about health, they'll often eat any vegan crap put in front of them. The industrial food complex is lined up and ready to make LOTS more tasty vegan crap (using industrialized salt, fat and sugar as the successful seductive incentives) that will be greenwashed as being better for the environment, and then either not exactly telling the truth or straight out lying about it being good for you to eat. I don't believe any of the well respected vegan doctors (Campbell, Barnard, Ornish, Fuhrman, etc.) will advise eating ultra-processed vegan foods over whole vegan foods. However, I get being time crunched and tired, etc., (right there with ya) so I know we're all doing the best we can at any given moment in time. It's challenging to eat healthy, vegan or not, but if one doesn't, there is a price to pay in terms of health so it seems worth it to do the best one can, and the more you do prep work and planning the easier it becomes. Health is wealth, and the healthy person may want many things but the sick person wants only one (to not be sick anymore). That said, I'd suggest buying the cookbooks (or at least getting them out of the library to check them out and decide if you want to buy): 30 minute Whole Food Plant-Based Cookbook: Easy Recipes with no Salt, Oil, or refined Sugar by Kathy A. Davis, Cook:30 by Jeremy Dixon, and Cook:30 2 by Jeremy Dixon (you can watch the tv show Cook:30 on KZread). ❤☮🌎
@user-bv7mk8id5t
Ай бұрын
@@suzannezoubeck5216so? Do you not eat processed foods? Dairy cheese is processed as well as meat. Most foods are. I bet you do eat a lot of processed stuff… So what’s the big deal and why do you care so much about what other people eat? As the maker of the climax cheese said (I agree the name is hilarious), they just want to coexists, why is that so hard for big dairy industry and big meat industry. Oh yeah $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Let people be. That cheese contest was clearly wrong. They should have never allowed them to compete if they didn’t want a non dairy cheese to win. But I bet they thought it would be a good laugh for them. Now who’s laughing, I know am 😂. As well as Steven Colbert show. Best
@suzannezoubeck5216
Ай бұрын
@@user-bv7mk8id5t Never said I didn't eat processed foods (processed foods by strict government definition can mean cooking anything and not eating it raw), and I try not to eat ultra-processed foods (you know there's a difference, right?), which is what I WAS talking about. If you want to learn about the problem with ultra-processed foods read Ultra-processed People - The Science Behind Food that's not Food by Chris van Tulleken (or watch his videos on this website). In the world we live in, there's not much of an incentive to eat healthy (read the book Salt, Sugar, Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us by Michael Moss), and the majority of what's available in fast or casual food eateries isn't, though places like Panera, Chipotle and other chains are trying to clean up their menus. Why do I care so much about what other people eat? Oddly, enough...I care about people besides myself. For one thing, more younger people are getting colon cancer and the recommendations for preventing it is to lose weight and eat a whole foods diet...and that diet could help one lose weight (Yale School of Medicine doesn't stress vegan or not). Then there's diabetes Type 2 which is now a thing with children which didn't really exist with them until the obesity rates went off the charts (also related to what one puts in one's mouth). The book, The End of Diabetes by Dr. Joel Fuhrman recommends a whole food plant-based diet to be able to get off diabetes medication and basically be "cured" of Type 2 diabetes. So, I don't really care about this contest as much as my issue being with companies that are catering to vegans (who will eat pretty much anything with the "vegan" label) and others who are trying to eat either healthier or to help the environment. Companies like this are greenwashing their products when they're neither healthy, nor ultimately going to be the thing to clean up the environment (check out the book Defending Beef by Nicole Hahn Niman...it's not the cow, it's the how). And yes, the writers on The Late Show with Steven Colbert are very talented, and the "Meanwhile" segment has always been a fave of mine (though if I was him I wouldn't have eaten the Climax stuff...no matter how good the bit was). ❤☮🌎
"I can't believe it's not Gouda"
I love the cheese pull measuring device.
Excellent! Thank you for giving some good air time to this story on improvements in vegan cheese. I know a majority of Americans either do not support or are unaware of plant-based alternatives, but perhaps stories like this will help them see the light...🙂
@SheilaR.08
Ай бұрын
I went to the company's site to see where to find the cheese. It's not available in my area yet, but I'll definitely be watching for it!
@spoonypoon7998
Ай бұрын
All the plant-based alternatives are full of chemicals and cause cancer
@lisasteel6817
Ай бұрын
@javierponders If you’ve seen the toilet after I eat dairy and then the colitis flare up and the hospital admission, I guarantee you’ll change your mind on that.
@lordgarion514
14 күн бұрын
The main problem I have with vegan anything, that's meant to take the place of animals, is that it always costs a lot more than the animal based product. Beans and rice are some of the absolute cheapest things in our country, and yet fake hamburger patties made with a high percentage of one or both of those two things, cost quite a bit more than even a mid-level quality beef burger. Many cost even more than an Angus burger. 🤷♂️
@spoonypoon7998
13 күн бұрын
@@lordgarion514 You have to pay for all the chemicals they put in them... The cost shouldn't be the deterrent... If all the chemicals they put in vegan food should be the deterrent... I've seen a lot of vegans get cancer lately
Velveeta has to call itself a "pasteurized prepared cheese product." Why does this stuff get to call itself cheese?
@yuppers1
Ай бұрын
They're not commercially packaged yet. The government won't allow it but this is about a contest
@blackpalacemusic
Ай бұрын
I just love the fact a plant based product beat dairy in taste and texture. 😂😂😂 Better quality without the health risk.
@maryseflore7028
Ай бұрын
@@blackpalacemusic Are you sure it's better quality? There's Velveeta, and there's actual cheese. Two things, one is clearly better quality than the other. Plant-based cheese - okay, sure. But if you need 20 additional ingredients to turn plants into something resembling cheese, it's probably not the best thing for you.
@cherdnad2630
Ай бұрын
"Without the health risk" I don't think vegans really care about health. If they do, they wouldn't be eating overly processed plant based alternatives.
@nillyk5671
Ай бұрын
@@maryseflore7028 I see you sell dairy products 😂
This would save me. I'm not only lactose intolerant but allergic to dairy products.
The secret to a great vegan cheese is animal products.
as a lactose intolerant person cheese love. please hurry. I don’t even like the idea of eating cow nutrition for calves….
There are so many levels of what vegan/vegetarian is. That you can add or subtract numerous items and still fall within the vegetarian spectrum.
I would love for my vegan relatives to be able to try this! I hope this company is successful.
I absolutely love cheese and I believe there’s room for vegan cheese specially if this taste that good. I would love to try it.
Kokum Butter probably won't get FDA approval, not for a while at least, as digesting Kokum Butter can cause skin irritation, and is typically considered a cosmetic/pharmaceutical ingredient.
This story took a long time to get to the point.
But how is it with Buffalo wings?
This would come from Berkeley 😂
@Pippi-Longstocking
Ай бұрын
As a Cal graduate I can say you are right! Lol
Whao I wanna try it. I'm so curious cause the look alone🤯. Great job. And the competition. Brutal.
We used a non-certified ingredient everyone usually knows to use. Now the website has to be more obvious and we get to be vague and cute.
Havent they know the history of margarine and butter? It became very similar to taste and color that they made rules for it. Yet in other countries butter manufacturer are selling " premium margarine" in designed for butter packaging.
I’m thankful for all the vegans. More steak and real milk based cheese for me! 🤗
The reporter being astonished by the mold in the blue was a sign she doesnt know a thing about cheese or food processing. It's like when people make tofu out any legume; lentils, pintos or whatever
Why don't they just get their own category? The Fake "cheese" category
Cheese not made of milk is like trying to call a beer a wine. Even Velveeta is not legally cheese.
@FruityHachi
26 күн бұрын
peanut butter is not made of butter yet you have no problem calling it peanut butter
@gtv6chuck
26 күн бұрын
@@FruityHachi It's made of peanuts. You are not going to see peanut butter in a butter competition. A pancake is also not made of pans.
@FruityHachi
26 күн бұрын
@@gtv6chuck you're changing your argument now since you lost your original argument was about the name, not about entering a competition if you don't mind peanut butter using the word butter, then neither should you mind vegan cheese using the word cheese and plant-based cheeses entered cheese competition in the past and nobody complained, since competitors were just making fun of vegan cheeses tasting awful
@gtv6chuck
26 күн бұрын
@@FruityHachi Don't enter non cheese in a cheese competition. Don't enter a motorcycle in a car race. Don't enter a pancake in a cake competition. Don't enter peanut butter or butterflies in a butter competition. If you hadn't noticed, that is what this article is about.
@FruityHachi
26 күн бұрын
@@gtv6chuck go sign a petition then, instead of ranting on youtube
All food should be tested BEFORE sold the FDA should have tested it before they used it on the public or in restaurants
I love blue cheese, and even though I'm not vegan, I am excited to try this.
As a vegetarian for 30 years, I'll never see vegan cheese be good.
@alasdairblackmore2592
25 күн бұрын
I have, and I've been eating vegetables for 60years +... Vegan Cheese is good for the bin.
@Nenezilla
25 күн бұрын
@@alasdairblackmore2592 exactly where it belongs
They shouldn't be allowed to call it cheese they should call it weird goo or something
Streisand effect with cheese kind of.
Just had a thought but is mold vegan? I mean it's alive. Thoughts?
@AC-cg6gz
Ай бұрын
it's a fungi and fungi is vegan because it's not animal or plant
@user-ik4xq9hm1x
Ай бұрын
@@AC-cg6gz fungi is far more closely related to us than it is to plants. Slime molds can solve mazes.
@sweatyeti
Ай бұрын
The vegan philosophy is not about avoiding killing anything, it's about minimizing harm to *sentient* animals (beings capable of experiencing pain, suffering, and/or trauma). For some, this permits the consumption of oysters since they don't have an obvious nervous system, however many vegans will avoid oysters anyway. Since meat and dairy foods, leather, and other products that use animal testing all inflict pain, suffering, and typically end in the early death of the animals involved, vegans avoid paying for them. I hope that clears things up!
@colsonrizzuto7973
Ай бұрын
🤦♂
@ajvintage9579
Ай бұрын
Mold and fungus, aka mushrooms, are vegan, as is yeast.
Well, they got my vote. Considering the way cheese is made today especially old world cheese like bleu, this may be the kindest way to have your cheese and eat it too.
Mysteriously disqualified? It’s not cheese…
@GordonPavilion
Ай бұрын
Actually, it is cheese.
@BitKing_Ross
22 күн бұрын
@@GordonPavilion maybe the cheese between your toes. But it’s not from cows milk or other dairy types
Grass certified? Hmmmm…
@lissakaye610
Ай бұрын
GRAS certified - Generally regarded as Safe
They need to call it “Processed Cheese Product,” it is not cheese . I’ve eaten it by mistake .
I can just see the meeting Big Cheese is gonna have already....
If they mark it organic they can’t use GMO’s which is the problem, the rinnet is the GMO in cheese.
I would definitely try it. I’m not a vegan, but I like trying vegan foods. Sometimes I don’t wanna eat meat. I’d like to have a good vegan or vegetarian option available
I only use blue cheese to enhance my cheese sauce, it gives a smother finish to cheese sauce and rounds out the other cheeses that I use to make my sauce. Other than that it lives in the deep freeze until it’s needed because on its own I hate it 😹😹😹can’t stand the smell of it, but once melted into a cheese sauce it’s the bees knees in flavour. For those who are vegan I think it’s great that they are getting the chance at something new. This company has realised its got a place in the food chain that is aimed at the few, but will gain the many for that reason alone. Edit note. Missed a word at the start lol “use”
The flavour has a subtle hint of Petri dish .
Who gives a f- what Steven Colbert, with his Beavis and Butthead level intellect, has to say.
This just boosted awareness of the brand, so not really a loss
Awesome!! Now do cheddar!!
Healthied it up but used an item not (G) Regarded as Safe ?! 🤦🏼♀️
I'd be interested in knowing the ingredients. So many vegan alternatives have undigestible additives in them.
In fairness, id hope my food is GRAS certified.
This looks amazing, I definitely would love to try it.
Just what we need. More processed food.
Vegan cheese is the best! We all know this company really won. Congratulations!
Really, you're telling me that an event put on by the dairy industry to showoff dairy products isn't entirely friendly to companies making non-dairy products? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
Cocoa Butter can be food grade. What do they think give chocolate is smooth texture?
@HiThisIsMine
Ай бұрын
Kokum Butter
To the wise words of Wiz Khalifa: "First thing, If it's 'bout that 🧀, then I'm about it..."
if grass or this, cheese works for "lactose intolerance" people then this would be a great alternative.
go climax! they're awesome and can't wait to see them succeed and grow and be on shelves everywhere
I like Caio cheese. Not sure if I spelled that correctly, but it is really good for what it is, and I’m not even Vegan!
Should be interesting to see if Chez Panisse uses it.
Yeah feel like these are also in some of the most expensive restaurants and that I will avoid them in stores just because of the cost.
people these days be like: "processed food is bad!" "we processed a bunch of stuff in to a patty that tastes like meat!" "omg I must have that!" lol
Not fair!
I love Blue Cheese I look forward to trying this one day.
There's no fighting with the dairy industry considering they get zero of my sales anyway due to lactose intolerance.
@skipperson4077
8 күн бұрын
have you ever tried the unfortunately named Calpis (called CalPico in the US I think). It's a Japanese tangy soft drink made of milk that has had the lactose to converted to lactase, many if not most Asians supposedly lactose intolerant. I used to live in Japan and loved it, available at Maruwa in J-Town and similar.
@plyric
8 күн бұрын
@@skipperson4077 I actually had Calpis when I had visited Japan. I loved it. Unfortunately, the US equivalent tastes horrible though. 🙁
Cathedral plant based in the UK tastes exactly like real cheddar. Slightly better
2:12 They finally get around to telling you why.
Cant wait to try some! Nice job
If it’s not from dairy, then it’s not cheese. It just tastes like it.
I’ve been vegan for over a decade, vegetarian for decades before that - I have no desire to eat a cheese substitute - they need to concentrate their efforts on making a decent vegan chocolate 🍫
if you are into frankenfood, go right ahead.
It is really something to see that people are upset about things like this because it just shows that they clearly don't care about people, like me, who are allergic to dairy and didn't find out until after living part of my life eating it on a regular basis like a normal human. Blue cheese is the only thing I want on my hot wings, and I have to go without it all of the time because ingesting it is going to send me the hospital. everyone always thinks things have to be so binary when having things be fluid is always the best option as it saves work, energy, hassle, end time. I am so excited for this!
Wonderful presentation.