Thanks for having me - not sure I said much interesting but loved conversing about these topics! Hope it helps anyone in a similar boat, thanks Angelo ❤️

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend, I'm sure people will get a lot out of it :)

@nat998

2 жыл бұрын

Wow Matt! Your "The Man on the Hill" is absolutely beautiful! John Butler is such a kind, and humble gentleman. I think for anyone privileged enough to reach the golden years of life, accruing life wisdom, they are hugely inspirational in what they have to offer. There's such a wealth of insight, so I'm happy millions of others tune into John's profound insights into life and how to live it 😊 The south of England is breathtakingly gorgeous❤️ Well done, good job! Oh and the interview with Angelo was fascinating - thoroughly enjoyable to hear about your experiences 🙏👍

@SamRoff

2 жыл бұрын

Matt dude, 'not sure I said much interesting' cut that shit out hahah. Your realization and relatability on so many levels (age - I'm 24 turning 25, interests, struggles) and obvious speaking from that space is jet fuel motivation to inquire into my immediate experience right now. I found your pointing to drop boundaries to sense gates very direct and I found myself following along and really feeling into it.. what more can you want from a video on non-duality rather than motivation and direct pointers to feel into immediate experience. PS I Totally get what you mean by radiant presence in an ordinary woman. I work in support work, and occasionally I visit a center with 8-10 elderly with dementia to entertain, assist and provide respite from their carers taking a lot of the load/mental struggles that come with those sorts of states of deterioration. Anyway, they have a cook who cooks for them - a very ordinary looking lady, where I initially cast projects of 'oh look at this ordinary.. idk.. low status? Cook' if I'm being brutally honest. But coming into contact her revealed something so indescribably beyond words. Idk its like her gaze went far deeper and was absolutely loving and embracing of anything - to where I often found myself revealing to her at the end of the day deeper truths that no mask needed to conceal of joys or struggles i had through the day. She had a Christian background.. it taught me so much. How much I was projecting, much about status seeking, all sorts of things. I'm sure you get it brother. Anyway just know this talk was full of gold. I really appreciate it man and love what you're doing with your filmmaking, watched the docco and it moved some emotional feels in me and I found myself saying 'wow, a 23 year old made this? God damn' Much love Angello and Matt

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamRoff thanks for your comments Sam. And I agree , Matt is dialed in and points with nuance.

@mattgarrett3768

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamRoff I love your videos Sam and have watched them before! Keep doing what you’re doing man

No resistance. No defending the self. Such freedom! I'm excited to be in the world without defensiveness. No stories. No boundaries. Suffering--but if no sufferer-- no suffering. Brilliant.

Matt and Angelo, What a truly lovely conversation! The sincerity itself is such a transmission. Matt, I’m 65 years old, and so honored to be inspired by your presence, your genuine humility, and your heart. I went to prison for making a movie about “The God Within,” (🤬😎🤪) and I’m so tickled to see you on a more direct path than the one I took. And with a wiser, truer teacher than the one I followed. I love and thank you both!

What remains is not the presence of some one who doesn't care but the absence of some one who cares.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

indeed

Man his energy has changed so much!

Very good...this young man is wise beyond his years... Particularly liked the description of"love" as being with no resistance...the creation of free flowing vibration in all things

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

He is indeed

Listened to The Man On The Hill. So beautiful. Thank you Matt.

“ old lady ,50 60 years old”😆

Matt’s intent was so powerful. It’s like nothing in the world mattered more than stating his truth, and yet he holds a place where it doesn’t matter if he states it clearly either. Such Yin Yang nuance. Tough to do. He’ll only get better at it. Can’t wait to see more videos. He just did one with BatGap if anyone is interested. Good stuff. Also, I REALLY felt the convo re: limited individuals to discuss this with, including relationships. It’s tough.

@Shmyrk

11 ай бұрын

I’m with you there. “Spirituality” is a somewhat limiting topic to relate to people on, but once you get Here on the “path” you run the risk of coming off a little nutty trying to talk to most people about it.

Very illuminating💕. I walk around saying no ego, no self, no mind not to suppress but to be in a place of nothing. Yet still blips of emotional reaction appear in response to experiencing and I do inquiry as in your book . I learn and let go. No way to explain this with words. The no ego no mind chant is a way of practicing just being and overcomes conditioning. Listening to someone else interacting with you is so helpful.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. That's the way, explore and come up with your own practices. If you felt inclined you could start to inquire when you are experiencing that empty of content that is a result of your practice, where does that nothingness end and sound or sensation begin. You might start to perceive that the vivid sense fields are a sort of "living" or solidified version of nothingness. And yet exactly the same essence. When this clarifies it actually is even deeper than nothing and space collapses into zero-space, it is rather intimate.

Matt your conversation with Angelo so relatable and pointings so helpful.

It’s so lovely to hear mention of John Butler. He’s such a beautiful human being. Another great conversation, thank you both 🙏🏼

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

Just discovered these long form conversations and really loving them! Refreshing to find people who talk about this in an honest, alive and open way without forcing all the non-duality way of speaking.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

:)

I love this,,,very genuine talk from the heart....

thank you both! brilliant talk! Best wishes.

No words can describe this conversation. Big gratitude! ❤️❤️

I love John Butler, a wonderful teacher. Thanks to both of you for your very valuable contribution. Matt you're great too , loved this conversation, so honest and real.

Just found this and it's so juicy! Matt, without trying you keep dropping such great pointings and pulling them out of Angelo with your questions to him. This whole conversation was so helpful and inspiring, beautiful really! So much resonance with my life that I laughed out loud many times.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

wonderful

Omg Matt, this is brilliant. Thank you, thank you.

Can't believe I just watched the entire video today! A year after it was uploaded! I guess it's about synchronicity and that I fully trust 😉 funny that Matt's videos started popping out and led me to this interview... I'm now fascinated with this kid! So much love and wisdom to share! Thanks Angelo, thanks Universe! 🙏❤️❤️❤️

Thank so SO SO much for these conversations, it helps me the most at this point, as my mind struggles too much with the actual teachings. Also I listen too much to "energy intuitives" . channeled beings, etc which all tell a story of the future, and my higher mind says "dump ALL the stories", and . empty out, and I am starting to get better at that.!!! So many blessings back to you for what you give!!

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Your intuition is good :)

@lauraware2822

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake and thank you too for replies to replies!! It makes me feel like someone who doesn't think I'm nuts heard me!! I'll shut up now

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

@@lauraware2822 Yeah you're not nuts at all, in a sort of insane world sanity will look like eccentricity at best lol

@macparker3549

Жыл бұрын

Laura, I know exactly what you mean! I find these interviews highly accessible, too. Learning and opening through being inspired by someone else’s story/experience. Good for you for owning how you can and can’t receive this!

Thank you so much for this beautiful conversation. I can totally relate to the Matt’s saying this subject becomes the most interesting in one’s life.

I feel I was chosen to wake up. Not sure why... But to stop the pain of suffering, it's best thing that's ever happened. Finally at peace

I just love hearing paradoxical conversations, its so joyful and playful. And the juicy quote - I might be as well honest, especially in relationships. Thank you for the video and the honesty.

@macparker3549

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Lukas!

This is absolutely wonderful.. thank you…

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

💥

I am very grateful for these conversations. Frankly, I don't think I can get much out of reading another book, taking another course, listening to another lecture, or joining another study group. That path seems to have run out for me and I've been noticing, more and more, all the people stuck in these modalities. I've just recently come across your conversations and they are a breath of fresh air. This is the real life experience I've been longing to hear/share with fellow travelers. Thank you, thank you.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

Жыл бұрын

This is what helped me as well, the feel of what it’s like to go through

Beautiful. Thank you 🙏🏻

Just found this conversations! Love to know there are people how talking about this somewhere out there. I will love to have this conversations some day!

This was such a wonderful and powerful conversation! I really resonated with everything Matt shared, and I so appreciate hearing these perspectives!

Thank you guys! Excellent interview and great pointing Matt. You say you have no desire to teach, but you naturally were teaching in the interview. So I guess it really doesn't matter. Perhaps truth will spring forth from the stillness of love naturally as it's embodied. And through that embodiment of truth, love will be recognized in "others" as itself.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

I felt the same way Chris, he’s a natural. And the best teachers are the reluctant teachers for sure.

thanks, such a great interview. And Matt if the universe assigns you the role of a Teacher, you'd do great, no doubt:)

So wonderful. Just found you on BATGAP and then here. Big Angelo fan so this is exciting You are so authentic. Your interviews are lovely

I love how Matt said it’s not 2D, it’s like a mosaic, as he was pointing out that there is no distance. That really helped.

2nd Rob Burbea's work. His book Seeing that Frees is masterful. Great interview, thank you Matt!

Thank you for sharing! I found the portion on relationships super helpful -as a 20 year old girl deeply embedded in this process, it can definitely feel isolating. Sending love!

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

❤ I love it! Alma (she and Matt together in yesterdays vid) and I started working at this when she was 18 so you're in good company :) I commend you for putting living truth at the top of your priorities this early in life. It will pay off in spades, not only for you but for everyone you come into contact with :)))

@macparker3549

Жыл бұрын

So moving to see and come to know young people living these realizations now and ongoing. Love and honor to you all!

I’m so glad you spoke on relationships . It’s not happening for me because I can sense a grabbing and owning from the other that feels very constricting . They also tend to be striving for a goal in the relationship and not so much just enjoying whatever is happening. I just let it all get and figured it will happen if it’s supposed to happen

😄 The issue of "taking sides" fills me with joy because I've played this...game, if you will, where I've thought about myself and what my point of view is on any given thing...and then I think and think of all the reasons why I believe this thing and eventually I've thought about it so much that the monologue of evidence supporting this fixed view turns completely upside down and somehow my thoughts have ended up on "the opposite" side of my original view. It takes my ego (I guess) off guard and it's actually very delightful.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

💫

@macparker3549

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant! I love this!

This has been a great talk to listen to. Thank you!

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

It’s just amazing to hear everyone saying the same things I’ve been saying to myself. ANNND often mentioning Adyashanti! It’s such interesting to see the connections.

I really enjoyed listening to this interaction ❤

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hey , enjoyed and resonated so much with this . Thanks both of ya .

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Love this chat , thank you

Thank you. Happy new year

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Happy new year!

Such great insights and pointing's in this discourse. A couple of sages in full flow. I stumbled across John Butler some years ago on BATGAP, fell in love with him immediately and have followed him since. I also enjoyed your interview on there Angelo last month, you have a unique approach which resonates strongly with me. I guess we will have to wait a few years for Matt to get some mileage behind him before he gets on there, although for a young man you have remarkable maturity Matt, and your postings feel like they are from a man of many more years. Thank you both for sharing, and thank goodness for KZread. Peace❤

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your reflections

@jumperontheline

Жыл бұрын

Don't know if you already know this, but Rick had Matt on BATGAP only two months after you wrote this comment! 🤩🙏

@brendanlea3605

Жыл бұрын

@@jumperontheline yes, I really enjoyed that conversation too ❤🙏

46:14 made me chuckle because it's exactly the same for me LOL. What led me to awakening was this not knowing how to be human without suffering and I used to identify with CPTSD, so I delved so deeply into myself, my thoughts and bodily sensations that these weird shifts started to happen and now I'm just going all the way and it's the most interesting thing ever. I think to myself might as well become a monk 😂. Funny how life works.

“what are you gonna do?? Tell your dad you don’t even exist!?” 😂👏🏼👏🏼 I’m gonna have to borrow this line 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Thank you ❤

I'm still watching - this young lad is very insightful, and intelligent. Enjoying this, cheers! Highly recommend Joan Tollifson - amazing writer. Check out her book, "Nothing to Grasp". Also Rupert Spira is utterly brilliant 🙌 😁

@nat998

2 жыл бұрын

I've experienced this "bodhisattva" aura in people (strangers) too, and it's so noticeable that there is a sense of presence and pure openness to them. You do feel it. It's bizarre. Like an inner glow, a radiance. You feel completely at ease around them. That's before they even open their mouth - it's an energetic thing. Great chat - this chap is very relatable, and perceptive about his life's experiences for 23?!

@nat998

2 жыл бұрын

1:04:00 - 1:06:53 😳🤯😱 Mind blowing

@mattgarrett3768

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Nat I love both Joan and Rupert! I’ll check that book out 😊

@nat998

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattgarrett3768 awesome! 😀 👍 also check out Joan's website - she has a very comprehensive list of book recommendations too, as well as an amazing taste in films and doco's 😁

Brilliant

"To tell [my dad], like, 'Oh, by the way you don't exist ...'" 😂

Great talk! Highly inspiring! I would spontaneously marry the backstreet boy😘

wow ❤❤❤

❤️

"Cows don't particularly gnaw away at your psychological well-being." OMG. How hilarious and charming.

how do you do emotion work? is it investigating what an emotion is or is it something else?

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

I go into this in detail in my chapter on emotions.

Love of truth or dump her, even then wait until you know for sure you aren’t expecting her to make you happy snd that her dreams aren’t against the grain of your continuing path.

I suck at living in the simulation too! On my way out of duality after 47 years of feeling like a complete screwup lol 😂❤

🙏🙏🙏

I am very interested in waking up, but I don’t even feel close to being there. I listen to you and your guests and I feel I understand what they’re saying, but I don’t know how to get there myself.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

First realize there is no "there" to get to. It's not somewhere else, it can only be in your experience right now :) Very important. Now recognize the power of a doubt thought. Find the friction point between the two points :)

@Nina-rz5ow

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t understand how to do this.

Hey Angelo, how do we manage the duality in conversations like this? (manage duality is probably the wrong way to phrase it ha). You spend a lot of time talking about others, how you approach others, and talking to each other as separate people, it's kind of like we're drawing a line between relative and ultimate. I know you have a deeper knowing of truth, but the conversation sounds very relative. Whereas when it switches to talking about non duality it becomes more ultimate. I hear others (neo advaita types) speak with absolute conviction that there is absolutely nothing going on, and there is nothing more than emptiness arising as everythingness. Is Neo Advaita unskillful? I don’t mean to call you out, the fact that it’s sparks confusion in me is illuminating my identification. I guess maybe this is my ‘ego’ thinking it has found a place to stand, trying to grab onto a branch and I’m asking you to snap that branch for me!

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

I promise you Ariana, Jim Newman et Al don’t talk that way all day long. It’s a teaching method essentially developed by Tony Parsons. When no-self is first realized you have a tendency to over emphasize it. Something like when you become a teenager and want to make extra sure those around you are aware that you’ve grown out of the habits and experience of being an older child. You sort of overemphasize your maturity. As you move into adulthood you no longer feel it necessary to convince everyone you are no longer a child bc well it’s just obvious. This is how it is was this realization. While it sometimes works to point in that way, it is completely unnecessary to talk using pronouns awkwardly and pretend you don’t understand questions in the relative and reframe them in the absolute. This is the classic situation you hear Zen teachers warn about endlessly. The story goes that you’ve realized the absolute empty nature of phenomena and go tell your teacher about it. Your teacher hits you in the head with his/her stick and you shout “ouch!” The teacher then asks, “if there’s no one there, who just felt that pain?” So when I use terms like I and me and you I’m using them in the conventional sense only, but there’s no resistance to using them to convey information. Once you’ve seen clearly that something is an illusion is there any need to constantly point out the fact that it’s an illusion? Anyone with a basic knowledge of Buddhism knows that Anatta (no-self) is a dharma seal, but I’m not interested in people learning and believing that bc they’ve heard it so many times, I’m interested in pointing to the perceptual filters that crest the fixating illusions and giving workable methods to dissolve those filters. Tony Parsons has said more than once he knows people who can recite the open secret message in five sentences and for them it’s just knowledge not experience. I try to help people not to fall into that trap. Does this make sense? Also if anyone using that teaching style states that there’s no point in practice bc “who’s going to do that?” Is simply dead wrong lol. You don’t have to know who is doing anything to do it. Just like you don’t have to know who is driving a car to learn to drive a car etc. Only from the standpoint of an illusory self does one need to sort out identity to proceed with life. Once you see there is no one who needs to sort out identity bc identity is an empty construct then you can just go about the business of looking fur the perceptual distortions that keep the selfing process going. When you see unequivocally (that is the key not belief), that they aren’t there then the experienced illusions of reactivity, separation, form, agency, and ultimately subtle self sense can fall.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

And there is no need to draw a line between relative and absolute although you often will (based on clear experience), when the absolute is realized. This is Tozans second rank in Buddhism. Beyond that it makes less and less sense to do so because even that boundary goes away, no matter how much you want to hold on to the absolute (and many really want to hold on). Tozans third rank addresses this tendency. The fourth and fifth describe the ongoing maturing of liberation.

@innernesss

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Hey, thanks so much for your thoughtful and thorough response. This is exactly how I was feeling watching their videos, it felt off and too rigid. Like how can one define or make rules about any of this? It's all love and freedom, which includes everything! But I see how that cut-throat teaching style could work for some people, because like Matt said everyone is different and has a different path 'up the mountain', That neo-advaita stuff has totally been messing with my juju lol. But I am thankful for that in a way. I love your analogy of the child becoming an adult, I think I'm at the stage where I'm a teenager just starting to turn into an adult - so I need to prove my 'adultness' to myself and others by talking with a deeper voice and just about growing a moustache, rather than just being an adult. Thanks again, your videos are awesome and always keep me on my toes!

@innernesss

2 жыл бұрын

Would you have any recommended readings that could maybe act as a sort of bowling guide rail in all of this?

@innernesss

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake Something else that comes up is that I love the relative world, even though I have noticed there is no 'me' - naturally there is love and excitement about life. That seems to just be the flow of things, yet these neo-advaita teachings can even make the awe and wonder of reality seem so bleak.

Question: Nonduality asserts that we are not the brain but is that which, both, contains mental activities and that which is aware of them. Correct? How then can it be explained that a person who is functionally brain-dead is aware of nothing? It is a state of pure nothingness. Awareness without a brain is a non-sequitor. How is this to be understood?

@cps_Zen_Run

2 жыл бұрын

Eric, if one’s brain ceases, that person no longer exists. But if you are looking for a metaphysical interpretation, I cannot help.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

Hi. The way I use the term non-duality isn't philosophical at all. It is a pointer to the immediate experience of boundlessness in direct experience. It's not subtle or heady and nothing you have to think about. It is a rather advanced stage of realization however only coming after kensho type awakening, and then working through a good amount of conditioning. Many pewople however use that term in very different ways including philosophical assertions etc.

@EricGross

2 жыл бұрын

@@SimplyAlwaysAwake I posited this question out of genuine curiosity and I appreciate your reply. It was most inspired, however, by many of the assertions of Rupert Spira who speaks, often, of the eternal core of being that is "always" present and unchanging. I believe that you are trained as an anesthesiologist and I know, based on personal experience, that while "under" I wasn't aware of anything, no self, no world, no nothing. So his assertions don't seem to pass my sense of what is valid and true. I greatly respect your writings and videos and was curious about getting some clarity on this.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricGross yeah my sense of that way of pointing is it is subtly reifying a background awareness. With non-dual clarity I wouldn’t describe it as unchanging. It’s quite paradoxical actually. Certainly all transient or seemingly solid experiences are without substance. So you could say that appearances are ever changing. But here even the dichotomy of changing/unchanging falls apart.

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricGross also with a realization beyond non-dual (subtle self sense dissolved), the paradigm of paradigms itself is seen to be in error. So any fixed view of “how things are” is simply a thought/view/frame. But not verifiable in direct experience. More like unconditioned/indeterminacy.

oh shit that just woke me up!!!! hahahahahahahaaa

Matt ! No real spiritual teachers desire to teach … it just happens moment to moment. Spirit wants you to share so its not realy up to you anymore 😂. Its service more than teaching .

Matt is in some far out territory nowadays, curious your thoughts on that, or if there's reasons you dont talk about that stuff?.. "other realms", i dont even know really. I like his videos but I'm also like "what the fuck" lol. Sensing perhaps it's just out of compassion on your end to hold back.. But would be nice to know if it's better to steer clear? Do you know what i mean? Making it into a cookie

Couldn't follow this guy at all....maybe the accent plus the high speed of talking. Not need to speak BBC or Queens English, but a bit slower with less dialect would have helped this yank,

@SimplyAlwaysAwake

2 жыл бұрын

My sound mixing quality wasn't the best either

@neildmedia

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't have a distinct British dialect. This is neutral well spoken English accent. Speed I understand if you are unfamiliar with the accent.