AVOID This PROBLEMATIC Mower That Keeps Coming Back to the Shop!
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This problematic Scrub Cadet (Cub Cadet) mower keeps coming back to the shop! The owner and the mower make for a dangerous combination and serious headache for Taryl! Check out the video here for more on the story involving why this mower isn't the best design. Costly too.
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@scottarnold8311
Жыл бұрын
If you take care of them they last along time. You can't neglect them
@antagonizerr
Жыл бұрын
I've got that exact machine Taryl. Flip the timing belt and put an extra spring on the tension pulley. Even long wet grass can cause it to go out of timing it's so crappy. Wouldn't hurt to use some belt dressing on it either. It's how I solved my issues. BTW I swapped out the Kohler for a Tecumseh 15.5hp and never looked back. My sump cracked, the compression release needed to be changed twice and the seal leaks constantly due to play in the shaft. Just pure garbage. BTW, can you use shorter blades on this machine so that timing isn't an issue?
@stclairstclair
Жыл бұрын
*Taryl, Please do a video on repairing Tecumseh engines Leaking oil from the governor linkage on the crankcase, No one has a repair video on this, I'm thinking how can I add a Honda style gasket🤓
@stclairstclair
Жыл бұрын
Ive been a GM mechanic for 30 years, You recommended using belt dressing? I'm going to finish my bourbon and meet you behind the building 🥊
@mabronstevenson5256
Жыл бұрын
I'll solve it 3 blade the third middle blade catches missed by other 2 and distance all three and put middle blade in front to close in on a cut ya I worked for the state to on mowing
That customer sounds like everyone would be better off if he'd hire someone to mow his lawn.
@57monoshock
Жыл бұрын
Yep, call a lawn care man or gal.
@lukecurnutte2000
Жыл бұрын
@@Mike75575how the hell is it terryls fault? Was he the one at the owners house driving it into stumps?
@midnightrunner684
Жыл бұрын
C'mon Man you know the thing
@nothanks9050
Жыл бұрын
Anybody smart probably declines his shitty job, or does it once gets burned and quits! Every month people call thinking I'm just desperate to trash my equipment on their trash property!
@HIFlyer-wx7mn
Жыл бұрын
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I was laughing my butt off Taryl when you started mowing and ran over something right away. I was praying you weren’t going to throw that thing out of timing again lol.
In 1963 Cub Cadet made what was called the Original, it was a 38” I think deck and it had a timed belt, I was a kid then and I mowed a million acres with it and it never got out of time, but that’s when they made real equipment.
@mikeskidmore6754
Жыл бұрын
I mowed many yards with a 1964 Minneapolis Moline 36" deck timed blades. 8 HP Kohler engine. I mowed the Neighbors house and barn year on their Farm they paid me $3.00 every time I mowed it. I hit an old rotten soft dry piece of wood. The many years old timing belt broke and My Father made me pay for a new one. I think a new belt was $32.00.. So basically I mowed the neighbors lawn for fee. I got paid $8.00 to mow and trim my parents law which was like 3.5 acres.. They Neighbor offered to pay for gas but my Father wanted to use his gas from his 2,000 gallon underground tank.
@JB-ro3sz
Жыл бұрын
the timed belt on that deck was tensioned and locked in place so it would have to break the belt to get out of time. they worked very well.
@bluegrallis
Жыл бұрын
I used to have an early Cub Cadet with 2 blade deck that was timed. Mowed MANY acres with it an never had a problem. I even mowed the local cemetery with it for a couple years and hit one of those stupid little corner markers for a plot a few times. Just a few years back, I had an Ariens zero turn with a timed deck. It got knocked out of time a couple times and the last time was a rotten stick about an inch around and 6 inches long. Pfffttt. The Ariens had about 30 screws that held the cover on the timing belt, so it was a PITA to get to.
@keithschneider6348
Жыл бұрын
My 38 " was a 3 blade. Scrub cadet. Could take the deck off in 1 min. The new one is a 54" an aircraft cable crap holds it up.
@danmurphy7713
Жыл бұрын
Thats why I have 66,67 Sears Suburban's
You can’t fix stupid, but you can make a living off it. 😉🔧👍
@freetolook3727
Жыл бұрын
When I had my RV and mobile home repair business, I can't begin to tell you how much work I got from people who let their "nephew" try to fix it first! 😂😂😂
@cliffordbowman6777
2 ай бұрын
Yea I’m sure your one of the smart people
I had the same problem my fix was I cut the blades and they miss each other by a
@ZAPATTUBE
Жыл бұрын
excellent idea.
I'd sold a yard bug type mower last year to a couple. They called me a week later and told me it would barely move. Even though the belts looked good when I sold it, I could see that they had been dry rotted from the inside and only the kevlar jacket looked good. My bad. I replaced the belts and dropped it off. A week later she messaged me it wouldn't go into reverse, was smoking and she wanted her money back. Turns out she had the deck down to 2 to shave the lawn and when she was backing up the deck dug into the ground causing the rear tire to slip/spin until it started smoking. She'd also banged the blade into something and had a big divot out of it. After replacing the 28" blade ($50) I resold it to another gal who loves it and had no issues with it whatsoever. I may have broke even on that one. Expensive life lesson.
@DarkVegetaman
Жыл бұрын
I cannot for the life of me figure out why people scalp their damn yard
@jameslester3861
Ай бұрын
Some people have absolutely no business operating machinery of any kind. This goes for men and women both.🤦🏾♂️
Another great example of why I will forever and always continue to maintain my 80's Simplicity rider.
@ginaboos9563
Жыл бұрын
I got a 1990. I love it.
@n3bruce
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2000 era Landlord DLX that I got used in 2012 with a 50 inch deck, 42 inch blade, hydraulic lift, wheel weights and chains. Gotta love a lawn/garden tractor built with tapered roller bearings for the front wheels. The 80's era 5116 I tried to make as a backup had a messed up Peerless gearbox, I never got it to work right, and it used bushings rather than roller bearings on the front wheels. I was kinda disappointed. Going further back, I have a Landlord 101 that I have as a project. It is built as tough as the DLX, but is torn apart at the moment, and will be something to run around tractor shows when I get it back together. I run the DLX hard, there are a lot of fence posts, as well as a hay field and tree lines that border my property. I can't really afford to replace it with a new one, they are pushing 10 grand these days, and would be afraid to mess it up if I did.
I thought that regular mower decks are slightly angled under the mower so the gap between the blades doesn't leave a strip of uncut grass. It looks like this Scrub Cadet deck and blade position is perpendicular to the body (and the direction of travel) which - if the blades were shorter to where they didn't hit each other - it would constantly leave a small strip of uncut grass.
@Philjj61
Жыл бұрын
No they aren't, the grass gets pulled away from the gap leaving no gap like a hair part with a comb.
I was impressed. Not only can you fix mowers, you can even use them!
I started working for International Harvester at the Research & Development Center in Hinsdale, Illinois in 1966. I was a technical writer and was responsible for parts manuals.The 1966 Cub Cadet with timed blades was the product offering. Not only would the Gilmer toothed belt jump a tooth if you hit something, sometimes it would tear one or more of the belt teeth off. Then the customer would have to buy a new belt, but sometimes a new blade or two. Our Department produced the Instruction Manuals and Parts List. We saw things that we would shake our heads at, but we didn’t dare say a thing to the Engineering Dept. because they were untouchable. My father started there in 1946 and retired before the company was sold off in 1980. It was a sad day for thousands of workers. IH was the world’s largest manufacturer of farm tractors and implements.
Wish other repair shops were as good to their customers as you are Taryl...
@oxyfee6486
Жыл бұрын
My repair shop looks at me like I’m from outer space when I take my stuff in. I think they are so busy they can pick their jobs.
@pootthatbak2578
Жыл бұрын
I doubt taryl was good to the guy. This mower isnt that new, taryl should profit nicely on this deal
@pootthatbak2578
Жыл бұрын
@@oxyfee6486 thats common..youre not a human to them anymore, nothing wrong with you, they are just taking you for granted. i have seen that look at many different types of parts and service counters.
My dad was big into mowing yards when he was younger and people told him so the stuff that they sell in the home goods stores are pretty cheap stuff. We still got two toro personal pace pushers that are still running great.
@grominwithrob1339
Жыл бұрын
If you maintain your equipment, even the "cheap stuff" will last a very long time.
@freetolook3727
Жыл бұрын
Second that and also drive it like you want it to last. My daughter would drive her lawn tractor hell bent to high leather just to finish quickly and then wonder why the machine kept breaking down.
@Studio23Media
Жыл бұрын
@@grominwithrob1339 Ehhhh some of it will. Some of the stuff is just so cheap that it literally won't run more than a few years. Some of it will literally shake itself apart.
@m.g.540
Жыл бұрын
Knucklehead neighbour has a collection of big box store tractors, he buys one every year, he leaves them outside year round and in winter, come spring no start, and off to the big box store for another,
I'm late to this video... I thought about shorter blades too. But the 'star' pattern of the blades - I didn't think about that. Taryl did. But one thing I would have done if were my mower is grind the end off of the two used blades so they'd pass about 1/4 from each other if the timing slipped again. Heck, you could even clock them to meet and test it. Normal multi-blade mower's blades can (do?) meet at the middle. That's how 'normal' multi-blade mowers work. Put a new $100 belt on it and hope for the best. You're going to replace the belt anyway. The blades were used - not much to lose. Worth a try...
Good idea on the buy back. You might want to look at the front left wheel, looks like the bushing is worn and the axld is riding on the rim.
Taryl I've been able to fix so much stuff because of you! I love you guy's man. I would love to spend a day with you guy's.
Another great fix Taryl Dactal now hopefully who ever buys it from you can stay clear of objects other than grass you shouldn't have to see it back at your shop for a while. I always enjoy watching your videos keep them coming. 👍👍😎
Hi Taryl ! I enjoy your videos very much. I always learn something about these small power equipment machines for you. The idea of timed blades does make some sense for a quality cut. The untimed decks have the blades offset, one behind the other which works fine except when you make a turn while cutting. When turning, the swath of grass that is being cut comes straight into the blades and then that gap between them is not getting cut. I do see your point though the untimed blade system being more tolerant of abuse. One thought would be to put a shear pin on the driven pulley on the mower deck. At least then when the knuckheads crash the deck, the shear pin will let go (aka like snow blowers) and not lock up and burn up belts.
Glad to see MTD still loves their springs and cables. 😞
@WJCTechyman
Жыл бұрын
Not just them, Husqvarna does too, and Husqvarna parts are more expensive for some reason. Remember this is an entry level machine, as soon as you step up into the XT2 machines you get a lot of improvements.
@robc8468
Жыл бұрын
Simple is cheaper and better when it comes to lawn care equipment. No need to use a laser to kill a fly if you have a fly swatter..
I love your truth and sense you make, you are very hilarious and smart, thank you sir and thanks again for your honesty
Good to see a video on the timed mower decks, I have a collection of Snapper 1855 mowers, and they have a timed deck with a gearbox and belt set up, three blades timed, gearbox runs the center spindle and two timing belts, one off to each side blade spindle. Short coming for them were the plastic gears, I had to re-engineer mine, used for 2.3L timing gears and belts, been using it for about 5 years, works pretty good, still trying to better the design.
It's funny how you and mustie1 both did a video today on Cub cadet mowers.
@jimhoward1655
Жыл бұрын
Didn't watch all of Mustie yet but now wonder if the sheared flywheel key was caused by timed blades crashing into each other?
My 3 blade 42 inch zero turn overlaps so there is not strip left. But not by timing. They overlap by the middle blade being forward of the other two. The outsides ones are set in just a little giving the overlap.
With the sunflower seeds he definitely hit a garden gnome for sure..
Great info Taryl 👍🏻
That deck is just like those John deere freedom 42 mulching deck,yea,I've done a couple of those cub decks,great for golf coarse lawns,and you mentioned Walker moweres,yes they overlap also, there are little shear bolts on the blades that break before the T Boxes break most of the time,great video,thumbs up
My neighbor had same one and him and me just swapped the decks out for similar deck non timing set up and installed and problem solved. 👌
@Mizman76
Жыл бұрын
I definitely would retrofit a non timed deck on it.
Best weed smoker show I have watched ever. Love he work also
Another fine fix, cheers Taryl.
Taryl!! Even you should know that if you turned that deck into a conventional design that you would be leaving Mohawk strips of grass everywhere you go because that timed deck is perpendicular to the mower and not offset 😂
I had an LT1042 Cub Cadet, similar to that one and it ate deck belts to the point that I took to buying them at a farm supply place for a third the price of the Cadet seller. Finally, because it is now a well known fact that an engineer who graduates at the bottom of his class, lies on his resume, and is fluent in Apple II+ CAD, can still work designing Kohler small engines like the Kohler Courage...mine died. A bunch of screws came loose on it, the crank case split, I used some ideas from Taryl to get a few more cuts out of it and it truly died. Wouldn't even turn over. Kohler may or may not design an engine that works, but I wouldn't buy any of their products after having seen that Courage engine. The honorable thing to do would have been to replace every single one of those engines with one that was properly designed, eat the loss and maintain their reputation, but never underestimate the power of human stupidity as demonstrated in Cub Cadet, MTD lawnmower design. All I wanted it to do was cut grass. It didn't have to launch me into orbit. It didn't need to solve world hunger or fill the hole in the ozone layer, just cut grass. But oh no! Not if it came from Mega Trashy Design, "let's use the worst engine that money can buy!" paired with a deck that ate $65.00 deck belts like they were M'n'M's. But, you ask, am I bitter? Am I disappointed in my lawn tractor? Well, it drove me to the unthinkable, yes, I was forced by circumstance and aided by a large poverty-inducing bank loan to buy a brand new lawn tractor, as opposed to a used one held together with modified c-clamps and ABC bubble gum. And so far, it hasn't spit exhaust valves through my Kia Soul doors in passing. Time will tell. There is a special hot seat in Hades that is being held until the passing of the Kohler Courage design team. It's shaped like the seat on a Cub Cadet LT1042 lawn tractor, but warmer.
Awesome job God Bless you and your family
Thanks for the info 🇺🇲
the amount of timing belts we sold in our mower parts store were frequent,we were a lawnking dealer! they mostly snapped the belt as well as bending the blades!
Good to know..cause I had no idea some tractors had that design. I'm wondering now about the deck blade design on the new E-mowers. They don't have all those pulleys and belts on their decks which I kinda like but if they have timed blades that could get real expensive to fix! ??
Great problem solving!
Thank you for what you do!
a standard deck has left side blade slightly in front of rt side so that blades cut without leaving an unmowed strip in the middle . i believe they overlap a little , but the offset prevents blades from touching . if you put 42 in blades on that deck , a : they would hit each other , and b : (once shortened) they'd probably leave a streak in the middle .
@lawrencecarlson2425
Жыл бұрын
I had a Cub Cadet. I ground 1/4" of each end of the blades and never had a problem again, didn't leave a trail either.
@snakerstran9101
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. That deck has the spindles straight across and in order to overlap cuts, and the spindles are positioned closer together then similar sized decks. These blades have to spin into each others circle to not leave a grass strip, hence the timing. Most decks have the front/rear offset so that the cuts overlap but the blades don't spin into each others circle. I don't see a easy mod to adapt this. I think you would have to space the spindles apart so not to contact, and then angle the whole deck to overlap cuts.
@lawrencecarlson2425
Жыл бұрын
Yup.
@lawrencecarlson2425
Жыл бұрын
@@snakerstran9101 It will work as son as you aren't cutting hay fields.
@timsowell6304
Жыл бұрын
😊 need to make it idiot proof
Musty 1 is working on a cub cadet tractor too but it has the regular 42" deck I believe with the electric pto system. Oh and how is the new shop you just got built? Looks pretty sweet👍 And there's your dinner 🤪
Thank you for the education!
Regarding customers, one of my favorite sayings is: 'If it wasn't for customers... I'd have a pretty good job!" 🤣😂
Hey Taryl, it looked like you missed a couple of other things in the grass. Maybe you could lower the deck and hit those as well to see how much it takes to get the blades to hit!
hey Tarrel i think i see the issue with that timed belt, the belt has a long soft spring tension on it, that's no bueno on a timed belt, it needs a limited amount of movement, an adjustable stop on the tension arm could solve the issue. the timed deck eliminates the need to offset the blades(one blade forward of the other to provide overlap), walker mowers blades turned oposit directions to push the material to the center rear of the deck for bagging, the walker 3 blade decks are offset for overlap and are belt driven.
Thanks Daryl.I learn so much watching your videos.
Taryl can you do a video showing the “POOR MANS POWER STEERING CONVERSION” (thrust bearings/steering axles) on a riding mower???
@martinwilliams5394
Жыл бұрын
I've done this. There's a noticeable difference!
@Studio23Media
Жыл бұрын
Just sell it and get a zero turn 😜
@JeffreyStrader
Жыл бұрын
@@Studio23Media sorry, I don't have a spare $18,000 laying around for a Zero Turn that can maintain 15 acres..
A lot of mower decks are on a slight angle so that you don't get a skipper down the middle one blade is slightly ahead of the other one so the blades overlap without being timed.
@Philjj61
Жыл бұрын
No they don't.
@jjknott1591
Жыл бұрын
@@Philjj61yes they do
Heck yes. Really helpful for me
Thank you for the video Knoxville TN.
My dad had a way with mowers.....a broken way. RIP Dad - Also I spied a worn out front wheel bushing on the Scrub.
@MrGordy61
Жыл бұрын
GOOD eye, Yep, I saw the left front worn wheel bushing too, big gap on the top of the spindle ;-)
I'm going to buy one of your N.O.P.E. shirts. I'm always hitting sticks in my back lots and having to straighten or replace blades. I would think it wouldn't bend a blade to hit small sticks, but the crap blades are so thin that the bend.
@donalexander4083
Жыл бұрын
maybe buy better blades?
@garysgarage3669
Жыл бұрын
@@donalexander4083 I buy the best ones I can find. I've bought different styles. which are thicker and don't bend, but don't cut very good. I found that the better cut is worth having to change them more often.
@donalexander4083
Жыл бұрын
@@garysgarage3669 fair enough
Great show guys 😊
Taryl & GrassRats. I have a Cub Cadet 44C mower deck that I pulled from off of my 682 Cub Cadet tractor am working on that lost its proper belt tension in which the center blade was cutting grass the other two blades would spin but not fast enough to do anything. Upon Dis-Assembly I found parts that appeared to be the original OEM parts painted with the IH/Cub Cadet white paint mainly the tension arm assembly and the original looking pulleys. And Yes, A very old tension spring was broken and I decided to go ahead and replace the tensioner pulley that also appeared to be OEM just for good measure. My point is that I love how simple and easy that the vintage Cub Cadet mower decks were to work on. None of the Gimmicky MTD cables and way too many brackets that you see on the newer MTD/Cub Cadet tractors. The most expensive part that I may still replace is the tension arm which is just over $100. I’m pretty confident that once I get all of my new pieces and parts ordered and installed that my mower deck will last for several more years -, I guess MTD decided that concept wasn’t feasible enough for their bottom line.
I would 100% retrofit a non timed deck to that instead of dicking with it more. But, chances are huge it has the kohler Courage in it so its not long for this world anyways!
@jefferyashmore6477
Жыл бұрын
My Kohler courage ran great, changed oil regularly 50 hours ran it 1000 hours sold it.
I think the deck would have to be an off set deck for your idea to work. its a timed deck.
Always enjoy, laugh and learn. Thanks for the good content!
TaryL this is the best he helps people understand how to fix so many different types of problems I have really enjoyed the experience of Learning TaryL thanks for your experience . GOD BLess
u need to let your wife fix it, so it will b done rite
This is why I run commercial mowers. They are built heavy duty. Exmark and Gravely!
Thanks!
Preach!! Sometimes the best sell is the one you don't make
I have a John Deere LT 155 with the Freedom 42" deck that is like that one. They generally work well and mow a pretty yard, but they are not made for rough yards with heavy debris and roots coming out of the ground. You don't let your grass grow too tall if you have one of these also. A good rule of thumb before moving with anything is to walk the yard and remove debris or anything that deck might contact. Beware yes that parts are expensive if you screw up one of these decks. GREAT VIDEO!!! 🍻
I 100% agree. I dislike these MTD Scrub Cadets as well. The real International Cub Cadet was a great machine, a thousand times better than these yellow MTDs, especially the ones with the timed blades.
I bought a cub cadet same model as that one, used it for many years & never had a problem. I keep it in my garage when not in use, always kept it greased & the oil changed regularly, only replaced the belts 1 time, sold it to a man & it still looked good. People just don't take care of things anymore.
I've got a freedom 42 on an old JD LT 166. I've thrown that deck across the yard so many times! It's my pull stuff around machine mainly, and I used to cut some really overgrown stuff, abusing the balls out of it too! Never had an issue while beating the heck outta it, but it always happened out of nowhere, it was always the timing belt slipping for no apparent reason, making the blades smashem' bashem' always bending them, and they are 80 bucks too. But I gotta say, that deck cuts amazing and if you take the time to stripe, it leaves a professional looking job.
Taryl when It was in the late 50s my dad brought a cub cadet lawn more that had timing blades on it. We lived on a farm and had to mow a lot of things that was made for a different kinda mower and us boys had to do a lot of the mowing the yards and around barns, this and that well we would hit a rock or something unseen and throw the blades out of time. But we never had to take the deck off we got to where we carried a big stick with us and we would put our foot on the outside blade and take the stick and push the other blade half around to get it from hitting and go to mowing again. We learned quickly how to time it with that stick by pushing that blade and maybe be down 5 minutes and back to mowing.
I wish I could buy that from you, Taryl. But it's a bit far to ship it to Australia. You see, I just had my 900 square meter yard landscaped and a new lawn of tall fescue sewn. It's grown quickly and established well. The yard has gentle slopes at the side and is flat at the front and back of the house. No rocks, stumps or curbs to hit because tall fescue doesn't creep at the edges. Cutting height is 2 1/2 inches. In other words a yard and mower made for each other. Anyway, someone reading this may have a yard similar to mine and would never have a problem with that Scrub Cadet. So there's YOUR dinner.
I love how he just mulches the garbage that blows into his lot from the road lol i would too
Great tip on the flap disc for blade sharpening. Will try.
Hello Taryl,...as always informed video and very watchable.... I have a Hydro Gear transmission a 310-0510 type on my old lawn tractor,have you ever done a video on a rebuild on one???
you're a good man Taryl. you treat people as you would like to be treated wish you were closer..
You’re awesome Taryl!
yesterday I was using my stand on mower which we got last year and for some reason while I was mowing some very tall grass, it kept raining so I couldnt mow it and because of my leg hurting me for a few days, somehow I was going past a tarp on the wood pile thought I had enough clearance it sucked it right in did not realize it sucked in so strongly I thought oh no hope I did not hurt this mower enough to do any damage, my hubby which is my savior from my own stupid mistakes, saved the day put it up using the jack and was able to cut ot off the blades, took like a second, and went to use it the blades would not engaged okay I am in trouble, he figured the spring came off put it on and yippee mower was working good, I would of felt bad if we had to have it serviced, just a note try not to have to much fun with the zero turning, it is fun by the way, and I love how I can mow the steep hill backwards and still have the blade engaged, I keep the heavy part of the mower down hill to avoid flippng does a wonderful job of going really slow down so I can see where I am going and what obstacles I have ( it is a big pasture after all I used when we h ad horses). it makes short work of 3 acres too. it is a 52 inch in the process of hubby fixing the spring I learned alot watching him so that in the future I can do it myself if he is not around for some reason.
Nice job. My old Simple City ones had 3 blades... But the middle one was way forward, so there was a lot of overlap, but no real possibility of interference, or blade vs blade contact.... and I'm not sure how you'd ever get "stripes".... there was a lot of overlap in the 3 circular cutting paths.... I liked them. They ran really good, and my lawn looked like Augusta National....
Hey Tarly Chris here, and some of the old 800/8000 series Gravelys have a gearbox on the deck and use a deck belt and have 3 blades, I've never seen one in your shop yet with any problems like that. and deck sizes range from 40 up to 60 inch.
Great vid as always mate
YOU BOUGHT IT BACK?!? You are one good man!! Now that's customer service!!!!!
@iwanaGoFast2010
3 ай бұрын
Not everyone is a pos like you.
@15:55 One of the star teeth is slightly longer so that other blades don't fit. Theoretically you could file out the tooth hole on another blade to make it fit. But it's proprietary parts. That's exactly what put IBM personal computers out of business.
I got a 2012 mtd yard man with 42” deck. Just got it home blades were very bad shape. I got new blades with it when I bought it. So I go to take the blades off and had to use a 1/2” breaker bar with 2’ snipe on the end to get bolts loosend. Put one new blade on Shute side no problem. Go to put the other one on and find the star part on the shaft is all worn out but installed the new blade anyways. Engaged the blades and they were contacting each other the odd time. So stoped the mower went and bought new spindle with pulley pre installed and mounted it in place. Still making contact after new spindle installed. When I got the new spindle the holes were smooth inside not threaded. I had to drill out the holes to accommodate the 5/16” bolts with nylon lock nuts. Not sure if this is factory setup as I bought used. Maybe they use self tap screws for the spindles🤷🏽♂️. I’m thinking deck might be bent judging by the old blades. I was thinking of removing deck , then level the deck front and back and sideways then putting a couple of those small round bubble levels used in fridges on the spindle nuts to see how far off they are. Just wondering what my next step should be. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Chris
I one time bought some blades that was tad too long so I ground down the ends of the blade like 1/8 inch worked lol on a non timed setup though.
Huge fan Taryl!
(In the high-pitched voice) "But Taryl, don't that lawnmower cut stumps?"
All right. You work good mister. I wish you all the best
A three blade deck has offset blades (not lined up straight) so it overlaps and doesn’t leave a grass strip. That’s the beauty of a three blade mower… plus it cuts a wider path.
Those front wheel bushings look like they have seen better days too, great vid!
I love when Taryl tells it like it is. 👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I had the same problem with a castelgarden mower with timed deck....ended up cutting the blades shorter so they dont hit anymore...had to weld the fins back on and then ballanced the blades...its still mowing without any problems now👍
You guys are awesome
I always practice engaging the blades only with the engine at idle or slow speed to lessen the wear on the belt or clutch, furthermore I never turn off the ignition with engine at full speed because it’s still sucking raw gas into the cylinder for a couple of seconds. My main rider is a 50 plus year old John Deere 112, still going strong, (and it WILL grind stumps, saplings, and rocks like a champ.. LOL) I always enjoy your videos, keep it up! 😄
Great demonstration. Would wonder if owner had deck set to low and running over uneven ground. Thanks for the "show and tell".
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Mower height adjustment reads 4 3 2 1 D the D is for dirt.
My neighbor had a John Deere with a similar deck in the mid 90's. I bet I re-timed the deck a couple times for him and replaced that timing belt that had teeth on both sides a couple times. What a pain !.. and the belt was NOT cheap. Back then it was like $75 bucks and the first time he bought one I about fell over when he told me the price. Those mowers have to be used on a "golf green" style lawn, no dips , possible foreign debris or anything else that might upset the blades. Your description of POS is right on ! 😅
My father would bring a tractor with a bush hog home from work. Sometimes he would bring home a Gravely with the sulky seat. He worked for the county school board as a landscaper. The property we lived on belonged to the school board. I learned how to run that tractor and Gravely. I hit a large rock with the Gravely but didn't bend the blade. The neighbors siding was a different story. Those old Gravelys were damn near bullet proof.
@Taryl I had that happen with a beautiful, small Stihl chainsaw. He brought it back twice, and each time, the chain looked like he had been cutting concrete with it. I sharpened it the first time, figuring that it was somehow accidental, but when he came back the second time, with the saw looking the same way, and him not realizing that he had rocked the chain, I knew there was only one way out. I bought the saw back, and told him that I didn't have another saw that would suit him. A guys got to do, what a guys got to do. Knucklehead, would have been a big step up from the words I was silently using to describe him. Guy makes Goofy laugh, "Yep, I know how to run one of them there chainsaws".
My Craftsman and Troybilt 33 inch walk behinds that besides the color were identical twins had the same problematic problem ! I hadn't thought of those nightmarish times till now and I feel a sense of relief knowing that those days are gone!
I have a 1967 Wheel Horse that has 2 timed blades. It uses Bevel Gears on a cross shaft that drive Bevel Gears at the top of the spindles. I have mowed about a million acres with it and it never had a problem. The Tuc'm-suck 5.5hp was so temperamental about starting, I replaced it with a Wisconsin with Wico Magneto in about 1979 and we never looked back. Plenty of power to take weeds 3' tall down. I even changed drive pulleys to get a little more speed out of it. It was great until one day plowing snow the tranny got stuck in 2nd gear. That's the way it sits today. Also, I have a Sears Craftsman 2 blade, 42" cut riding mower but that does not use timing, the blades are one ahead of the other so they overlap, but can't hit. That one is 19.8hp! LOOK OUT! ben/ michigan
I have a Cub Cadet walk behind with the timed blades. I got it free from a coworker who ran over his water shut off port in his yard. The blades ran into each other and he parked it in the shed for the next 6 years. I brought it home put a new battery on it, new blades, and rebuilt the carburetor. Its been working great every since.
Maybe you could adapt the deck to use a murdersickle (motorcycle) chain. Those decks run straight with the blades side by side and my John Deere, one blade is slightly forward so they can overlap paths without hitting. You are so right about it being a bad design but they sell because the average homeowner has no idea what they are getting.
Our ole 03 LT160 had the freedom 42” deck with the timed deck belt. We got it from my dads father who snapped the original belt after 600hrs. Put a new belt on it, & it lasted a while until he hit something. Then got a cheap Amazon belt that snapped. Then got another OE JD belt that worked for a while then got another JD belt before he gave it to his brother when he upgraded. Tractor was pretty darn reliable. Transmission gave out at 900hrs then his brother junked it sadly when the trans probably just needed some oil in it.
Had a cub mower. Ate deck belts like potato chips. Traded it in for a simplicity. That worked good for ten years.
Lancelot "Link" Secret Chimp! 😂 I thought I was the only kid that watched that show back in 1969-1971? You crack me up. Thanks for the videos. I'm learning a lot
A timed blade set up would never work in my yard. I have a lot of pine trees and a bunch of the roots are above the surface. My old Gravely just takes out a chunk and keeps on going.