Just a reminder, the video covers what OTHER PEOPLE aka the Aventurine Glazers saying that he's the second coming of Jesus with unrealistic builds and expectations when in reality they're just setting him up for failure. I thought I've made it clear enough but turns out not enough and that's my mistake.

i dont know why everyone is obsessed with him dealing low damage like wtf he's supposed to be tanking damage not to deal crazy numbers

@kyo-wm3wb

2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, it almost seems like people are expecting actual hunt/erudition/dps level damage when at the end of the day hes a preservation character...

halfway through the video but the take on him "not being able to have good uptime in DoT comps" is just untrue. Aventurine gets 2 stacks every time hes hit or 1 if its someone else, this means if an attack hits the whole team you instantly get 5 stacks and thats NOT including any trash mobs or other potential enemies hitting you as well. If you are at a point where you kill the enemies before they can even damage you then its not just him thats bad there, its also luocha, fu xuan, and to an extent huo huo because sustains aren't needed if the enemies are dead lol. This applies to every team, if your team can clear THAT fast then you wouldn't need ANY sustain, aventurine is not the only one suffering from this lol and in a situation where you are getting attacked, aventurine will absolutely have very little downtime while being fully sp positive. tl;dr aventurine is good if not neck and neck with huo huo for a team sustain in nearly every comp outside a select few where she pulls ahead. She is better for team dps, he gives his own little damage on top of being fully skillpoint positive and a lot safer which imo places him as the best sustain in the game for rn

@Moretropes11

2 ай бұрын

I feel like people also forget that Kafka has a follow up attack so you can get 5 stacks when hit with aoe and 1 stack thanks to Kafka’s follow up

@seraveegundam2032

2 ай бұрын

Bruh that’s cope. Just run huo huo and rua mei. Fast win.

Considering solely his defensive profile, I think Aventurine will slot nicely even in non follow-up teams against specific enemies, simply because we don't have any other shielder of his caliber thus far. But I agree his best role is alongside Topaz and Follow-Up units, while other sustains might be better for other teams.

@muchluck7981

2 ай бұрын

Gepard says hi. But in all seriousness being able to stack his shields does make Adventurine's value as a shielder much higher but gepard still exists

@anhelaanhela4996

2 ай бұрын

​@@muchluck7981 Gepard's shield is only on his ult but Aventurine's is on his skill + builds up with follow-ups (and ult maybe? not sure?). And it requires A LOT of energy, to the point where in the difficult content his shield can get destroyed while his energy is only halfway there. And trying to get him to recover his ult quicker is extremely skill-point negative and he doesn't even do any meaningful dmg, plus the freeze is completely random and most bosses are not very susceptible to it without the Remembrance path. I'm so over him and I have him C2 😐

@muchluck7981

2 ай бұрын

@@anhelaanhela4996 Adventurine's shield is on skill and follow up. it can only grant shield on Ult if you have him on E1

As the game develops, we'll inevitably get more niche characters that flesh out specific team archetypes. 1.x was basically just hyper carry but now they are fleshing out different options like DoT, FUA, break. Aventurine is clearly intended to be BiS sustain for FUA, just like Robin is BiS harmony for FUA and BS is BiS for DOT. But the nice thing is that he can work well everywhere :shrug:

for me I have both dr ratio and topaz along with ruan mei who can be one of the best support for them .. and the thing is both of the characters are not built and I dont care about running aventurine with them .. maybe I will eventually but for now I am quite happy with his sustainability and use him as a sustain only .. he is good for some damage here is there but the whole point of his existence is keeping your team alive and thats all I care

People overhype every new character, that's nothing new. I'm not sure how much of an upgrade he'll honestly be over Gepard.

bright side is he will be a top tier sustain

Aventurine is a jack of all trades however I believe that for pull/investment cost efficiency, newer players should hold for Fu Xuan's rerun instead. Considering the likelihood of crit value substat rolls especially with how many resources or rather lack thereof depending on the time that you start the account. Having bump ups to crit rate pushing you to possibly guaranteed crit checks provides more value especially since both Aventurine and Fu Xuan will have pretty much little to no issues with teamwide sustain. Both are very SP positive as well from my observations. That being said though, what intrigues me more is the shift in the way the game is being pushed. Aventurine IMHO is still a phenomenal pickup and this has been a trend that we're somewhat seeing with Gallagher's kit including his eidolons. Generally speaking from experiences in HI3 and GI, they're selling a solution to a problem that does not exist yet. Yet being the keyword here. This is implying that HSR is probably transitioning to a phase where we will see a reduction of status effects being proc'd to flat out preventing them depending on enemy's effect hit rate will possibly be just as if not even better than cleanses since cleanses are a reactive form of mitigation. Of course, this might just be me reading into it a bit too much but in all fairness, we are certainly seeing much more combat oriented activities in HSR then GI. Side note, sorry for the long block(s) of text. lol

@TheOneGPJ

2 ай бұрын

Yeah they're teasing it already probably all the way back when Ruan Mei released with her niche being a buffer with break effect focused.

I agree with your video except, I haven't seen anyone saying he's the best sustainer for many team comps let alone every team comps

@kyo-wm3wb

2 ай бұрын

Ive seen a few, surprisingly Know a couple people personally who think that as well lol

Asking how he can be a SP positive unit in a DoT team compared to Luocha. That's a questionable statement. Why? First of all, Aventurine sustaining capability is multiple folds better than Luocha's and any other sustainer in the game. He's stronger in much more scenario and he can actually be SP positive and offers the same comfort as Luocha, how? There is not a single obligation to put a FuA character alongside him. Yes, he's better with FuA character, but he's still extremely comfortable and arguably an SP positive chara if you know how to set him up. AoE attacks, taunt value tuning, and team positioning can enable his SP-positiveness by triggering 3-4 FuA under 3 ally's turns. Remember that the blind bet is mainly obtained through being attacked. The argument that you can't put him in DoT teamcomp because Huo-Huo's added value is better, is such a fallacy because then Fu Xuan, Luocha, and other sustainer can't be there beacuse they're not providing the same value as Huo Huo. You should really stop at saying that Aventurine (and other sustainer) is not BiS in DoT team, not to the extent that Aventurine (or any sustainer) *can't* be in that team. That is extremely misleading if people misunderstood your point. Additional info. He is great in: 1. Acheron team with ToUM LC 2. Mono imaginary team with penacony set 3. Yanqing hypercarry team 4. Any team against that gorilla robot and Sunday boss (and future "oneshot"/AoE enemies) 5. Any team with Landau's Choice LC or Gepard LC 6. Robin's partner in a hypercarry teamcomp. and so on and so forth Not to mention, his capability of breaking toughness especially in a single target situation is not to be understimated. His toughness braking is actually pretty great. He is of course not a groundbreaking damage dealer, but he deals non-negligible damage anyway (mid at best). Don't forget his Effect RES buff to ease out BK requirements and can actually reduce the chance of getting CCed permanently which is undoubtedly a universal value. He offers nothing extremely new that we don't know about or that we haven't already had, but he's a fantastic sustainer overall and you don't have to push him to be only in a FuA team. He can be in any team and he does massive job in sustaining (which is, surprise surprise! his main job) no doubt. (edited cuz i scolded the wrong content creator LMAO 😭)

@jaseneffendy17

2 ай бұрын

He said that Aventurine is best in slot with Follow-up Attacks and yet he's great in ANY other team comps though? I'm confused on your points regarding that. Granted, he's just spitballing the facts but to call it just blatant misinformation is a bit ridiculous IMO

@TheOneGPJ

2 ай бұрын

My main argument is PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS regarding Aventurine is so shot over the moon that he'll be this final boss of a sustain when in fact he'll only fulfill his true potential in the FuA teams while still be a great sustainer in the other teams and only that, a shielder. That's it.

@achmadekasatria9741

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheOneGPJ To be honest this is my bad 😅. I thought i rampaged under the right video, i didn't watch your video fully just to move to other dompoosting video and came back then got triggered when the "controversial" part came. OMG now i'm so embarrassed LMAO. Gotta edit the scolding part real quick, but i hope my other points can also add insight. LMAO im so sorry

@TheOneGPJ

2 ай бұрын

You're good bro Have a better day friend

lol no one is saying that he'll rival actual dp's we're saying he's good because he can be in any team and build in anyway, also he doesn't need fua...to be really good and point positive like wtf, also healers are restricted into comp that prays not to get one shot... unlike shielders that are becoming way better since they're giving you another health bar,

@TheOneGPJ

2 ай бұрын

I've seen many a notion of people saying the gambling boy can be another DPS which is just not true. His damage contribution is non-negligible but you can't have it both ways of Aventurine being a sub DPS OR a true sustain. If you're contributing Crit DMG on him all the way you're sacrificing his other comfort stats imo

@user-rw4em2jn3t

2 ай бұрын

ive seen so many people claim he can be a solid sub DPS option on alot of teams

I think the problem is that there isn't much competition right now, I mean apart from fu xuan most people compare him to gepard which is easy to beat, but I see that in the future they will release more sustain units each time stronger or more specific for x type of teams, so when that time comes is going to me more obvious that aventurine was made for follow up attack teams. I have fu xuan for mono quantum, I always felt that im missing another limited 5 star sustainer for the other team, but playing clara with lynx or now gallagher seems like enough for this time for moc, Im planning on building a Sam team investing a lot, and seems like he wont be the best with aventurine so better skip and wait for future one with more sinergy.

@TheOneGPJ

2 ай бұрын

As time goes on, most of our "jack of all trades" unit will be slotted into their respective archetype and the game devs will "force" us to pull for certain characters to maximize some types of team and lining their pockets in the process.

The glazing has to stop. So many people are going to be disappointed with him because everyone is hyping him up to the moon. There are only two types of players who should pull him (unless as always if you love the character it's always the right choice). Those who plan to go all in on FuA teams with Topaz, and those who do not have the sustain to survive MoC 12 for whatever reason. Could be that they are new-ish players, or made questionable pulling decisions in the past. Anyone else will not see any meaningful power boost to their account from pulling Aventurine. If you were pulled in by the hype enough that you skipped the real game changer, Acheron, you might be sorely disappointed.

I dont quite agree. Yes he has follow up attacks, but outside if simU saying because he does that hes bis for that only is very disingenuous to me. The unbuffed benefits dont outweight a characters raw capabilities. Rn id say fu xuan is very bis for almost every comp. Just because she doesn't give atk doesn't make her not bis behind huahua, because keeping the team way healthier, being sp positive and not having to think about the comp itself is still way easier with fu xuan.