The book was powerful and the film was even more powerful. It saddens me that this film isn't getting more mainstream awards attention (I feel like I know why), but it will stand the test of time.

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

Because it’s all nonsense and wrong

@sunseeker9581

5 ай бұрын

​@@The_king567according to fascists

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

@@sunseeker9581 wrong to literally any historian which she clearly isn’t and it shows

@bytriciabailey5122

5 ай бұрын

@@The_king567maybe you should read the book and what Ava has done was make the author of it the main character and she was real

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

@@bytriciabailey5122 I did and it’s literally not a historical or fact or document it’s literally just someone’s opinion that’s it

I sobbed through this movie!!! I knew I was in trouble with the first scene because I have sobbed in mourning for Travon since the day he was stalked, terrorized, and murdered. Trying to imagine the terror this boy felt as he sensed the deadly danger he was facing has always brought me to tears. What a moving & painfully ugly & beautiful story. I must see it again soon, but I don't know if my heart can bear it. Thanks to the brillance of Ms Duvernay & the cast who performed so powerfully!!!

I love when Ava says because I wanted to do it😂

I love that she did the movie with no studios in olved . They couldnt Stop it from being released or made lol

When you can take a source that is "unadaptable" and create a new, living work - that's active creativity. Can't wait to see it. I loved the book and hope the movie exalts the source.

I saw this back in November. This movie changed me a lot and I was a whole different person after watching it. It broke me and opened up my eyes. Please let this be nominated for best picture! Everyone needs to see it!!

Ava Duvernay is an amazing creator, producer this movie deserves an Oscar

She looks amazingly fabulous 🤗

Pause for a moment and think Blair Underwood is almost 60 years old.

@zoe6723

5 ай бұрын

still fine

@joycediggs4617

5 ай бұрын

Blair is STILL Fine!!! ❤❤❤

@FarenMonique

4 ай бұрын

Forever fine

_Origin_ sounds like a must-see film. Added to my watchlist.

I'm so glad they didn't dance around the topic of the fact of what happened to the Jews in the Holocaust happened based on what was to Black Americans. Thankyou Ava for bringing this to light for those that don't read!! For reference: "The Myth of Race" by Robert Wald Sussman and/or "Hitlers American Model" by James Whitman

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

It’s not nice conspiracy theory though god you want to be oppressed so badly lmao go read a book and btw Hitler and America didn’t create racism go read a history book

@KL-cy1wc

5 ай бұрын

Incorrect

@calm1047

5 ай бұрын

Black people who support the far right don't understand that Putin doesn't care for black and brown people! The far right likes Putin!

Whoopi looks great🌺

@MothGirl007

5 ай бұрын

She truly does.

@SighDown

5 ай бұрын

I noticed! Her hair is stunning, especially with the beautiful gray!

Ava Duvernay is a absolutely genius when it comes to content and movie making. She know what she want to do and once she make her mind up there's nothing stopping her.

Already saw Origin. Movie of the year for 2023.

I attended this show and had the pleasure of meeting Ava. Ms. Lady beams with an abundance endowment of beauty & brains... I truly enjoyed attending and the experience

Fantastic segment!

Origin is a profound film that turns racism on it's head. Ava expertly made this beautiful film. The world should see it. I have seen every film this season and my vote for best picture is Origin.

@JasonWalkerJamaica

5 ай бұрын

Wow!

@KyeyuneBatuma

5 ай бұрын

Where can we watch it i live in Uganda ?

Always a joy to have her on the show ❤

@faithhudson4576

5 ай бұрын

Why she is a racist like Sunny and Whoopi are .. name 1 thing that was susceptible

Thank You Ava for your brilliance and being a vessel Of Healing our land !

God bless this conversation!

Listen to the sound track Stan Walker a Maori New Zealander its mind blowing and so poignant.

Love Ava Duvernay

Brilliant woman doing important work

@michaelscot4816

5 ай бұрын

#electwomen

Caste was one of the best books I've ever read. I look forward to seeing how she adapted this into a movie

@mrpearson1230

5 ай бұрын

I gotta get that book next. It's in my Amazon list.

@jeannewashington7964

5 ай бұрын

"The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration" is Ms. Wilkerson's first book. I highly recommend it. I recall that she spent about 15 years researching material and interviewing people before she wrote this amazing literary work. Peace and blessings!

What a powerful presentation! Thank you for the GIFT.

Ava DuVernay sure knows how to strip down concepts that many believe are too complex to dissect. Everything she said: 💯.

@KyeyuneBatuma

5 ай бұрын

Exactly brilliantly said

I read this book last summer.....very good read and heavy topic.

Preach Ava!!

Sunny calling sh*t out for what is truly IS! Ava is a genius. 💙💙💙

Ava looks like Phyllis Hyman:)

Sonnie, looks stunning today!!

@energizerbunny99

5 ай бұрын

Get glasses homeboy

@bluepeter128

5 ай бұрын

Be nice...@@energizerbunny99

What a great book n you can be a part of the problem or solution, but you can't stand on the side!!

@etf42

5 ай бұрын

false, thats called the black or white fallacy

@leongardner710

5 ай бұрын

@etf42 absolutely nothing false about the book! It's false to ppl like you who refuse to look at HOW we got here! I'm black, n there's no falsehood in my being. Anti blackness is on full display n ppl like you quickly dismiss it. My experience is totally different from yours. I don't have the time to teach you.

@ms.harris807

5 ай бұрын

​@@etf42it gets me how people who don't have a clue about what they are talking about are always talking. What you said is ignorant and unhelpful. You know the side you chose. Complacency is consent and choosing not to fight evil is a choice. It is right or wrong.

@etf42

5 ай бұрын

@@ms.harris807lol the overwhelming majority of people think they 'fight evil' by posting online

I just randomly watched this on Hulu. I didn't know anything about it. The opening scene shows a young man talking to his girlfriend on the phone. He walks into a convenience store, walks out and pulls his hoodie over his head. I hadn't put it together but he bought Skittles and a can of iced tea. As soon as I realized I was looking at Trayvon I started to tear up. Fantastic film! After I watched it I immediately purchased the book.

It's so ironic that they can understand the different themes Ava is trying to show in this new film but most of them are ignoring the exact same thing happening to Palestinians right now! Sunny has been the only one to mention what is happening to Palestinians is genocide.

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

Lmao you are so wrong the Palestinians are in the wrong, not their land. It’s not a genocide no black person should support Muslims or Palestine. They are the biggest oppressors of Black people that’s a historical fact.

@Tinkerbell4ever18

5 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!!! i was just thinking this same thing

@jbrooks9420

5 ай бұрын

Yes ignoring the individual Palestinian and I would like to hear someone speak on the other ism Z**nism

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

@@jbrooks9420 as they should you know that no black person should support the Palestinians because Muslims are the biggest oppressors of Black people. Crazy how you don’t know this.

Wasn't interested in seeing this movie...until I seen that preview. That looked very interesting now I'm all in.

Definitely deserves an Oscar!

Well wouldn’t it be nice if they could name the ongoing genocide in Palestine that they continue to ignore.

It's interesting that they talk about ignoring genocide while ignoring the genocide in Palestine

@ms.harris807

5 ай бұрын

That is a lie. You missed those conversations. Put your finger down or point it in the right direction. There is genocide going on in Africa and they talked about that also.

The song for this film is amazing.

Stan Walker's song in response to this film"I am" is captivating in a global audience. The song makes this film a more appealing to approach.

i want to watch this...✨🎥✨

What a wonderful interview

The film is beyond brilliant. The best film/narrative/docudrama you will ever see. Opened my eyes. MUST SEE. Makes me want to read the book. Just a knock-down brilliant look into this most American of all American subjects, that ends up being a world wide human phenomenon.

The cognitive dissonance of Joy talking about people ignoring holocausts yet not seeing why a ceasefire in Israel is important…

@emilyherman4483

5 ай бұрын

Thank you, that is literally what I just wrote, the hypocrisy is surreal

Ozempic really works! 😮

Well said

To be thirsty or fully available for our questions in film and cast...so many stories

Another great producer . THANK YOU. I actually loved ISABELLA WILKERSON. FIRST NOVEL BETTER BUT I HAVE BOTH OF HER NOVELS SHE IS AN AMAZING WRITER.

@nekeiarideout1593

5 ай бұрын

WARMTH OF OTHER SUNS is EVERYTHING! Definitely one of the best books that I’ve ever read.

It was brilliant to link Nazi's with Confederates and Jim Crow South. Would have been nice to include South Africa and Israel

@adbellar338

4 ай бұрын

She should do a film based on some South African history she would knock it out of the park.

She's a fantastic director and the film sounds amazing. Joy talking about people forgetting holocausts and the Armenian genocide is a little rich, when she has minimised and defended the current genocide going on in Palestine.

This movie is amazing

🔥 🔥 🔥

Read the book! 🙌🏼

There are plenty of people in film who are masters of being a counterfeit of Ava's real passion

This is a hellavu smart and articulate lady!

It's always envy. Those where the findings of Ida B Wells.

You have mentioned Holocaust - perhaps it would be important to also mention Ukrainian's Holodomor when between 7 to 10 million Ukrainian people were starved to death by Soviet Union man-made famine?

Such a talented woman. Can't wait to see this movie. It will be phenomenal.

Where can I find this movie

@TrinityJC

4 ай бұрын

In theaters now! A must watch!

Oh werk another ozempic success! 👏🏾

01/29/2024: This movie is excellent. It is entertaining and educational. I plan on buying the movie. I have love actress Aunjane Ellis-Taylor since "Girls Town" and "Undercover Brother", her performance in this is outstanding. Now, I have to read the book Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents.

Wow Joy. That's rich coming from you. Talking about genocide so eloquently while yesterday or the day before you said that that "we'll forget" about the 33,000 Palestinians so far by election day in November and "people will move on to the next thing". Sickening how people like Joy KNOW EXACTLY what's happening right now and who is responsible (israel) yet they choose to justify it at every turn. They can't even look at the 33,000 as humans.

@peacelove681

5 ай бұрын

This comment!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

Is she wrong?

A Great conversation.

Ava Duvernay please make a movie about the Haitian revolution 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

Whoopi! DID WHOOPI SAY THE ORIGIN OF OF OUR DISCONTENT?

Wouldn't it be nice if Isabel Wilkerson's message were heard and seen by more people? It is the most important message that must somehow get into all minds, especially black people in diaspora, ex-colonies, and all allies. How do we get the film into even more cinemas, arthouses, or even better, Netflix or Disney?

Apartheid followed in the footsteps of Amerikkka. This happened in South Africa as well.

@sharitastinson109

5 ай бұрын

Nobody is denying that

READ the book

Also called classism!

@ava Duvernay... you filmed many parts of this is Savannah GA.. and not 1 theater is carrying it.

Ava is amazing ❤

This is why aliens 👽 won’t talk to us.

I didn't realize that the name Ava was hard to pronounce?😮🤦🏾‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

@daily_rhetoric

5 ай бұрын

Ladies and gents Ava Duvernay. “So Eeeva” I know “Eyva”😂

Sounds great, but I’m more into comedy, some RomComs, animation and super hero movies. 🤷‍♂️

@FeelinErie

5 ай бұрын

Got to be aware of the realities of this world also.

@etf42

5 ай бұрын

@@FeelinErie WOKE

@javiruiz8365

5 ай бұрын

@@FeelinEriethat’s why I watch documentaries and have other sources. When I watch a movie I want to be entertained. That’s just me personally

@ms.harris807

5 ай бұрын

​@@javiruiz8365you are only one person. Films inform a lot of people. Movies highlight issues that the masses should know. Just being entertained is not why I watch movies and last time I checked no one is forcing you to see it. You just don't get to dictate which movies are made. Just don't try to discuss anything about a film that you know nothing about or assign its value based on your needs.

@Adagio121212

5 ай бұрын

No problem. We each have our preferences. BUT, if you want to step out of that box, Caste would be the book and the movie to venture out to.

Nice sgenmen

@javiruiz8365

5 ай бұрын

Nice segment

@sheldoncole7276

5 ай бұрын

Stop trying to type fast. You misspelled segment with "sgenmen"

Joy “if you commit genocide people ignore it” as she ignores the genocide of Palestinians… you can’t make these things up!

👑🩵‼️ #loveher

The white woman's line in the trailer "You're thesis is flawed" sold me on it, so I saw it Tuesday. Unfortunately, it's leaving my local theater after Wednesday due to lack of interest. After they cut away from Trayvon Martin before he was killed, who I don't think they named then, the movie takes about 15 minutes or so to become interesting again. Then I liked the use of history and figures to support her point. One of the scenes showed Black Americans looking for _All Quiet on the Western Front_ in a Berlin library. It was an anti-war book from a German author and WW1 veteran, so it makes sense that the Nazis would ban it (and him) since it's opposite their narrative, though they don't go into this in the film. DuVernay said in another interview that the word "race" is overused, and I can see how that and "racism" and "institutional racism" can be off-putting for understanding and reform. I have yet to read the book.

@joyl3321

4 ай бұрын

Interesting folks complained they were tired of "trauma" films (eg Color Purple) yet when a quality film comes along, no support. Saw Origin twice - a masterpiece!

Who is “Eva”????

Affordable Connectivity Program Is Winding Down

The relationship between black people and cinema is an intersting one.

And the thing is, these people making these plans are in the minority. If everyone else organized they’d be non-entities

@RR-ur4kz

5 ай бұрын

Right?

I agree with Whoopi on this point

I have NO $$. I mean, i literally live on SNAP & other Gov Assistance Programs. But, if i could afford to go to even ONE MOVIE, in the next 5 years, it would be ORIGIN! I atleast saw The Original Color Purple or it might be my 1st Choice? Society has long been broken into segments of - Caste/ Class/ & Capitalism. It is the latter that today, drives this train of madness. {the patriarchy & misogyny/ misogynoir are also layers placed on Women, especially, of Color.} Please PPL - go see this MOVIE!! Meanwhile, i will have to wait for it to come out on Cable. But i'm already voting for Democracy; to the elimination of the notions of white, male - supremacy; & the further separations of Society; by cisgender & homophobia & xenophobia & jingoism - so many of these interlocking Oppressions: we are being orchestrated like Puppets, in their little game of making sure only 'certain' PPL will ever really kontrol the wealth & the power - in this Country ... the World. So, any little way they can find to divide us, have us fighting over the krumbs they drop from their Table, always looking to blame so & so, as to well, they have it better than i do & my oppressions is worse than theirs & .... Here's what i think, as a white lower working class woman, now retired: The future is - Women of Color!! Lead the Way & i will happily FOLLOW!!

This mOvie changed my Life a s a Black 50 Year Old Gay Male..

What in the world is sunny wearing?

How is Whoopi 50yr younger?

As bad as Trump is I'm thankful because now it's never been so easy to pick a side.

Funny how their talking about the ignoring of genocide when they have yet to directly address the genocide of Palestinians currently occurring

@joyl3321

4 ай бұрын

Exactly, so what you gonna do about it?

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

That is untrue. Sunny has brought it up multiple times.

shout out to ozempic!

Who?? Never heard of her

@user-cz5lj2vx1f

5 ай бұрын

book "Caste" by ISABELLE WILKERSON

@jasoneaton9477

5 ай бұрын

@@user-cz5lj2vx1f huh? Sorry no advertising

She kinda resembles Meagan Goode

I agree not to compare atrocities but you really can't compare Nazi Germany/Holocaust... maybe 4 yrs and U.S. slavery (aka American Holocaust for enslaved on plantations aka American concentration camps) 400 yrs.

Ava looks great, she’s always been beautiful it looks like she slimmed down more?

@rachelfinney1774

5 ай бұрын

She has

wow she is making all the rounds, yet the film is huge flop.

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

How can it be a flop when it is not in a theater? OR were you just trying to be.....

While Taraji keeps complaining about fair play why dont we lift people like this talented actress who cant even get there. lets all be grateful

@abetterme7215

5 ай бұрын

Ava is known as a director and producer not an actress

@drubert1981

5 ай бұрын

That's an unrelated issue. Taraji should continue to push for equal treatment and pay. Ava Duvernay is an accomplished writer and director, not an actress. Please brush up on what you're discussing before chiming in.

@chakeloftin2828

5 ай бұрын

So wait be grateful that she has what she has but still does not get the correct amount That an A list white actress gets? So basically you want her to settle for less and not fight back and not speak her truth. Do you even here how you sound? Smh

@javiruiz8365

5 ай бұрын

Taraji needs better people around her to get her be paid the amount she believes she deserves. The only issue is that if the movies she is in are flopping like the Color Purple and all her Tyler Perry movies are flopping how can she ask for more money. That’s what her management and team is supposed to do.

@Chillhard

5 ай бұрын

You’re confused. Ava Duvernay is an award winning producer and filmmaker. Her most recent production was Now They See US a series about the Central Park 5.

Caste is not random... It is not based on people's traits... It is a much more complicated problem... The movie might be good, but she doesn't have any understanding of the term caste... And I'm guessing that the movie doesn't really show the reality of the caste system...

@TrinityJC

4 ай бұрын

If you're referring to the Indian Caste system, both the book and film clearly differentiate between the separate caste systems being discussed. Isabel Wilkerson, the Pulitzer Prize winning journalist who wrote the book "Caste" upon which the film Origin is based, extensively studied the Indian Caste system and examines the similarities and differences between the three systems. However, and most importantly, the word "caste", and the related term "caste system", both in definition and historical usage, do not apply exclusively to the Caste system in India, but to systems of social stratification more generally. Wilkerson's thesis focuses on the idea that there are "Pillars" of caste that exist in different caste hierarchies, and those pillars are consistent across all three systems of primary focus. And yes, she does discuss the origins and intricacies of the Indian Caste system. Wilkerson consulted extensively with Dalit (and other Indian) scholars in the U.S. and India who are leaders in the academic study of Caste as it exists in India, including Dalit Harvard Professor Dr. Suraj Yengdi, who appears as himself in the film, and also served as a producer of the film. The book and film also briefly document the life of B.R. Ambedkar as well (one scene is filmed at his house). But most importantly, the thesis of the book (and the usage of the term) is related to the earliest etymology of the word "Caste" (derived from a Spanish word) originally used by the Portuguese to describe perceived differences (in tribe, race, lineage, etc.). The book and film utilize the term as it has been applied by anthropologists throughout history to refer to different systems of social stratification within separate societies (it was extensively used by anthropologists to refer to social stratifications in the American South under Jim Crow laws before it became more exclusively associated with social stratifications in India). In some societies, according to Wilkerson and many other anthropologists, some caste systems are indeed based on physical traits. While some, like the Indian Caste system, are not. Ava Duvernay understands this, and was very clear about the definition and contextual usage in the film, which was why her example here referred to the sides of the room on which the audience members were seated (i.e. their placement) not their "physical" or "social" traits. Often the word "trait" is used in the physical or genetic context, but the word trait has more than one denotation, and can refer more generally to any distinguishing quality, which is the context in which Duvernay used it here, based on her immediately following example of positioning as analogous with assigned placement in society. I would advise reading the book, which was heralded by Indian Scholars in addition to world leaders, for a complete understanding of Wilkerson's thesis, and a more complete understanding of the origins and applications of the word "caste" beyond its most common association.

Woke

@twitch3942

5 ай бұрын

Everything we dont like is woke

@etf42

5 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@The_king567

5 ай бұрын

@@twitch3942some stuff is dumb like her movie

@gregXxo

5 ай бұрын

​@@twitch3942everything that doesn't involve straight white people is apparently woke

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

BOUNCE

The view is intentionally not reporting on the news that Israel is currently being tried for the crime of committing genocide against the Palestinian people at The Hague. They are being accused formally by the South African government. Please search for the ICJ if you are interested in learning more.

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

Completely untrue, that has been discussed more than once.

Race baiting

@patriciapowell6047

Күн бұрын

Bwhaahahahahahahajhajajajaja...go get a dictionary