“The cloud is stopping you from looking at the clouds” put that on a shirt.

@rossmanngroup

20 күн бұрын

I've never been good at making merch; this inspired me to stay up until 1 AM and try. official-rossmann-merch.creator-spring.com/listing/clouds-in-cars?product=1565 official-rossmann-merch.creator-spring.com/listing/clouds-in-cars?product=1637 In all seriousness, _"There is new hope that Ocean owners can score some wins here. American Lease, a company in New York that leases out cars to ride-hailing drivers, has agreed to buy Fisker's remaining inventory of some 3,000 Oceans for up to $46.25 million. As part of that deal, which a Delaware bankruptcy court judge still needs to approve, Fisker will let the company access proprietary source code and software that's necessary for maintaining and improving Oceans. To De Bardi, that signals that the FOA could gain similar levels of access. But it's also worrisome in the sense that another company can now gate-keep everything they need. Ideally, the FOA would work with American Lease, since they have shared goals here, he said."_ I think if you want bankruptcy protections, you release the source code of the product to customers. Or, your creditors can pierce the corporate veil & go for management personally. One or the other!

@glidercoach

20 күн бұрын

​@@rossmanngroup What's stopping you from locating the wires to the sunroof and bypassing the system? The same goes for the heated seats...

@rossmanngroup

20 күн бұрын

Not owning one.

@xpusostomos

20 күн бұрын

Could be the literal clouds stopping you if the rain interferes with connectivity.

@squidikka

20 күн бұрын

@@glidercoach I love how you think you're being clever instead of actually being clever and just buying something that isn't dumb and enabling. Seriously though, why would I financially support the practice when I could put my money where my mouth is and pick a different brand?

"Sorry. Your sunroof was open when we went bankrupt. Now you can only drive your car in dry weather."

@Accrovideogames

20 күн бұрын

This counts as a safety defect, which should be covered by your insurance company. You (or they) can even sue whoever buys the manufacturer. In fact, unsafe products must be recalled by law.

@damiang888

20 күн бұрын

@@Accrovideogames bro, the comment was funny, we were having fun...

@chrisdavidson911

20 күн бұрын

@@Accrovideogames Sue a bankrupt company? What happens there?

@ralfvandeven3155

20 күн бұрын

@@chrisdavidson911 Special offer, buy the bankrupt company, get the lawsuits for free.

@Philip_Taylor

20 күн бұрын

Our sister company can fix it, but you must send it to the other side of China at your own expense.

The sun roof not opening due to the company being 404 is a serious "I am sorry Dave, I am afraid I can not let you do that"-vibes.

@timduncan6750

4 күн бұрын

Hopefully it will close regardless.

It's bad for the Fisker owners who want to open their sun roof. It's REALLY bad for the Fisker owners who want to CLOSE their sun roof.

@timduncan6750

4 күн бұрын

Needing Internet access to open sunroof - bad. Needing Internet access to close sunroof - terrible! Hopefully they made it to close regardless.

3,000 miles, better change my oil. "Car cannot operate without official HP Oil Filter Cartridge inserted and active Sub. Press to begin."

@99mage99

20 күн бұрын

If you were my boss, I would demand hazard pay for the terrible nightmares this cursed comment is going to give me.

@MrSloika

20 күн бұрын

See 'Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act'.

@thehellkite

20 күн бұрын

I'm actually not scared of this. I'm scared of the litigation that will be brought to the person who figures out how to get AROUND it.

@ottenzi0549

20 күн бұрын

HP oil sponge full please contact you local repair center for more information

@user-vp2ve4sh7h

20 күн бұрын

​@@MrSloikabig companies are kinda above the law as we saw many times with Louis examples of companies doing illegal stuff and at most getting a slap on the wrist .

Open sun roof. Go for drive, signal deadspot. Starts raining. Can't close sunroof.

@UserAccount-ThisOne

20 күн бұрын

clearly its not the manufacturers problem, because once the rain drops seep into your car and fry its internals you will have to buy a new one!

@1vbAPiYk

20 күн бұрын

nice green text format

@1maaaks

20 күн бұрын

The rain seems to come from an unauthorized cloud. Warranty voided.

@GoodOlTazzy

20 күн бұрын

Almost every good car with a sun or moonroof will close automatically once the rain sensor detects rain xd

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

20 күн бұрын

Were you driving in a manufacturer-approved area? It's for your safety and protection, you know.... LOL

First thought: a cloud sunroof actually sounds pretty nice. Then the realization sets in that with cloud they mean "someone elses computer" instead of "fluffy thing in the sky"

@OreoHT

19 күн бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only one! 😂

@rhettbaldwin8320

9 күн бұрын

Shouldn't be too difficult to redirect it to your own server.

This tactic can be boiled down to "give me extra money for a service/device/functionality you already own, but we've locked behind a logic gate". It's effectively extortion. Car manufacturers aren't the only industry doing this. Gaming consoles have been doing this for over a decade. Paywalling online multiplayer as a feature for games that Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo don't even provide dedicated servers for. I pay for an Internet subscription, I own the content, I own the hardware, and most often these connections are either peer-to-peer, non-dedicated or hosted by a different developer. On the Switch: Diablo 3, Minecraft, Rocket League, Smash Brother's Ultimate, etc. Why the fuck do I have to pay Nintendo a subscription just to use my own Internet connection? What a load of bullshit. These companies rely on taking advantage of those who are technically illiterate or fiscally irresponsible enough to not ask the question of "Why?". It's sickening. Thank God (talented developers) for emulators. P.S. Thank God for Louis Rossmann too.

@kdavidsmith1

19 күн бұрын

You left out that you also pay AAA prices for a game that is designed to only play in multiplayer mode & these games are becoming more and more pay to win with all the micro transactions.

@callak_9974

19 күн бұрын

Well, you mentioned Smash Ultimate so that at least is going through Nintendo servers.

@chrismcgrath4323

19 күн бұрын

Extortion. Extortion. Extortion.

@MrElectrifyer

19 күн бұрын

Hah, that extortion for online multiplayer gaming is what stopped me from ever getting an XBox a long while back. Totally forgot such stupid stuff even existed on the XBox platform, thanks for the reminder.

@xdelisiusx

19 күн бұрын

Get a PC to game on. Consoles have been like this for longer than you're listing here. Truth be told though, everything goes through the console manufacturer's servers, even it you would think it shouldn't. All gaming traffic is routed through their shit, which is why when XBox gaming goes down, you can't play Fortnite or the like. You're paying to access their servers (which you shouldn't even have to do).

"Update: Your manufacturer has gone out of business. Braking, door, window and seatbelt privileges have been suspended until a new owner is found. You seem to be doing 100 km an hour on the free way right now. Please stop safely. Any damage occurred after this message is out of warranty. Click this single agree button within 30 seconds or steering privileges will be suspended. Have a nice day."

@marvindebot3264

19 күн бұрын

I LOL'd but yeah, that's where it's heading.

@shadowhenge7118

19 күн бұрын

BMW's ears just started ringing.

@jarrod752

19 күн бұрын

Technically, all a car is really required to do is steer and stop. Everything else is optional. Optional is where they want to make their money.

@imfloridano5448

19 күн бұрын

To sum it up yep basically that's the gist of it

@MadScientist267

18 күн бұрын

I promise we were only kidding back in the day when we said a windows based car would spontaneously restart and you risked the windshield turning blue by adjusting the radio. Suddenly it isn't so funny anymore.

In defense of that hypothetical Fisker owner. I would never thought that the Sunroof actually *needs* internet until i was already fleeced by the dealership.

@Apostate_ofmind

20 күн бұрын

unfortunately now you need to grill the vendors for information like its guantanamo bay.

@willia3r

20 күн бұрын

In 2024, you should pretty assume that anything you buy that requires a power source will likely be connected to internet, even a flashlight.

@mrminecraft4772

19 күн бұрын

they did get fleeced, its a luxury car that comes with stupid overpriced features most will use only a few times.

@vlmath314

19 күн бұрын

exactly, and THIS is part of the problem. as a vendor, be honest and tell "by the way, no signal / we dont want to contiue the providing of the servers = you will not be able to use your sunroof", I can garantee that a majority of people will think twice...

@sammcelwain7220

19 күн бұрын

Exactly. I doubt the people that bought these even knew the sunroof needed to be connected to the internet. That’s not something the average car buyer is going to pay attention to. So it’s dumb to shit on them for that.

-Open the toilet. -Our service is currently under maintenance, please give us a minute until our weighing, visual and composition sensors are available again. Thank you! -Relaxing music 🎵🎶

Even if their "cloud" was still working... what if you're in a rural area and you have no coverage? Or perhaps it was bundled with Starlink? The whole idea of having cloud operated sunroof is absolute BS! Even if they open sourced this and presumably you're able to make your own "sunroof cloud" to use - why on earth should I need to talk to a damn computer in my house (which would also cost money to run) so I have control over something in my car?! This is completely F*CKED up on every possible level. I wish nothing but bankrupt for companies that even try to push such BS to the market.

@monishbiswas1966

22 сағат бұрын

I'm assuming they are smart enough not to talk to the cloud on every use of the roof, as you would not be able to cloise the roof in an undergroud car park, but who knows...

The cyberpunk dystopia is way less flashy and way more dumb than imagined.

@isthisnametaken978

20 күн бұрын

Yeah it's a shame we didn't get the cool "eating noodles during rainy night in Chinatown" kind of dystopia.

@mgancarzjr

20 күн бұрын

_Boring dystopia_

@atigerclaw

20 күн бұрын

@@isthisnametaken978 Dude, we don't even get techno music and neon lights after dark cyber punk.

@zed739

20 күн бұрын

I mean, you CAN still go to Chinatown while it's raining and order noodles.

@GreatFox42

20 күн бұрын

all the dystopia but without the pretty lights

This "rental" mentality is wrecking technology and life in general. I miss the old days and their sanity.

@hubertnnn

20 күн бұрын

Wha is wrecking technology is the fact that you are no longer allowed to make your own car (at least in EU). If that was possible than with what is happening now, custom cars will start emerging and eventually flooding the market.

@AmbientShores

20 күн бұрын

Pirating is a Moral duty. End of.

@effexon

20 күн бұрын

im just pondering does military have to suffer that.... fun to be in hail of bullets and suffer that bs. afterall they buy lot of stuff from companies nowadays. power generator fails coz it couldnt connect to internet.

@HedgehogsAreBetterThanYou

20 күн бұрын

@@hubertnnnnobody is stopping you from making your own car. If you can show it’s safe, you could even drive it on public roads.

@arcadeuk

20 күн бұрын

@@HedgehogsAreBetterThanYou yes they are stopping us. Do you think random guy in his garage has the ability and finances to submit the car for Euro 6b/Euro 7 testing?

The company went bankrupt because they did not charge enough for the sunroof subscription.

On the "hostage fee" concept: we already have equivalent or similar negligence, where children have been in stolen vehicle. Volkswagon in 2023 refused to help law enforcement find the missing car and child using the on-board GPS *because the owner's subscription payment was past-due*. Not for privacy or lack of a warrant, but just because they didn't enter a credit card and pay the late fee. Louis actually covered that, if I recall.

@Matt-yg8ub

17 күн бұрын

I’m very surprised Volkswagen wouldn’t work with law-enforcement because that’s the surefire way to get this whole scheme Overturned is pissing off the government.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have "Send us $0.50 to start the engine" be a real phrase in 5 years at this rate

@aluisious

20 күн бұрын

When your subscription to the starter motor expires, the bootlickers will tell you just to park at the top of a hill every time.

@tseikkisnelkytkaks9013

20 күн бұрын

Why not, games pull it off, why not cars? Monthly subscription is not the end of it when you can unlock full battery capacity for $100 for a weekend for you to be able to do your roadtrip without constant charging, or pay $30 for an hour to use the full power of your engine. First gimp it, then sell the actual capabilities of the car you "bought" in time-limited bits. They sure as ef are thinking about it.

@LittleMopeHead

20 күн бұрын

Damn, that would be so sad. It's like a extra toll on your car.

@thejinn99

20 күн бұрын

The car needs to be free for me or something to accept something like that.

@razeezar

20 күн бұрын

​@@tseikkisnelkytkaks9013I'm starting to think that micro transactions in games are training / conditioning the younger generations to the idea of paying for things that they have effectively already paid for in perpetuity.

How do these ideas even get past the drawing board...

@JodyBruchon

20 күн бұрын

Corporatism.

@kaibe5241

20 күн бұрын

It's idea creation without pragmatism. Happens a lot, it's why so many businesses fail (more than 90%).

@thedave7760

20 күн бұрын

They cannot see the folly all they see is money.

@InFiD3ViL1

20 күн бұрын

Because they know there is a percentage of people that will absolutely pay for this crap.

@dobbo7690

20 күн бұрын

@@JodyBruchon aka unfettered greed

Because wiring a sunroof motor to a simple rocking pushbutton switch makes too much goddamn sense. 🤦‍♂️

@iindium49

17 күн бұрын

Diy will be coming back in vogue.

@yk-lt5bs

16 күн бұрын

It's a simple pushbutton. This video is disinformation.

@greg6500

16 күн бұрын

@@youdontknowme5969 Simple rocker switches are from the past GRAMPS. Its so much better to have to download an app, pay a monthly fee, Create a login, give up your info to be sold to bulgarian gangsters so you can finally launch your "use the sunroof app" and hope itll work, Woops forgot the login time to do a password reset, Oh the sunroof is saying "PC load letter error" time to spend 3 hours talking to a robot on the phone. And maybe, just maybe when the day is long gone and whatever your plans were are long forgotten, MAYBE you will be able to control your sunroof.. Though youll still have to pull out your phone, Unlock your phone and launch the app every single time. See how much more fulfilling our lives are with this crap?

@poolhalljunkie9

15 күн бұрын

That stopped awhile ago. Everything is now powered and grounded by the computer while switches just send a resistance value to the comp so it recognizes what it needs to do. At least that's how they started. I haven't been doing automotive full time for a while now either so I'm not 100% if it still works that way.

@iindium49

15 күн бұрын

@@poolhalljunkie9 Sawzall it is then, still custom :)

No one "deserves" to get screwed or abused. Louis is the Peoples' Knight; I appreciate his special interest is nailing the jelly of corporate BS to the wall of practical reality with nails of human decency.

Louis has gone to the point of not giving a crap and wants to just lay it out. This is why we trust him to be the unequivocal unbiased voice.

@ember3579

20 күн бұрын

At some point, one has no choice but to ask what in the name of Barbara Streisand 'that guy' was thinking, even if you want to have sympathy for them.

@kryptkeeper457

20 күн бұрын

Louis has always dgaf and always “layed it out”. This is why….

@leonro

20 күн бұрын

He clearly has a bias, there's no way that a 1-man show would be even remotely unbiased. That doesn't make it a bad thing, especially since he does admit his own biases. But even if I don't entirely agree with his worldview, that doesn't mean that he isn't mostly right. We live in some crazy times, and most people are oblivious to what's happening.

@alexzanderroberts995

20 күн бұрын

Well he is biased, but we like his bias

@anujmchitale

20 күн бұрын

Being biased against immorality and criminality of companies is a great thing.

You live life on hard mode! 😅

@rossmanngroup

19 күн бұрын

Always :D

@bc-guy852

19 күн бұрын

@@rossmanngroup Is there any other way?

@mikepalmieri4989

19 күн бұрын

​@bc-guy852 if you take out that comfy chair, the difficulty goes to 11

@TheHungrySlug

19 күн бұрын

We don't want to live in a paper plate society. Let us have usable, reliable and repairable goods again! We want goods, not simple products. Simple request that we are fighting for, world wide.

@TheW83

19 күн бұрын

Commenting on this pinned one to say I just found out I was unsubscribed from your channel. I've heard of this happening to others but this is definitely the first time it's happened to me. YT was still recommending your videos in my feed so I hadn't noticed right away. Meanwhile I have subbed channels that I haven't watched a video on in months and they are still there.

If people have not yet figured you out, you are one of the most empathetic individuals on this entire planet of earth. That is no joke, no sarcasm. Legit need more Louis Rossmann's in the world. Not too many more but a few would be nice.

@nmxsanchez

6 күн бұрын

With a new York exterior. It's his charm.

@nmxsanchez

6 күн бұрын

Not too many more indeed LOL

If I can't reboot my server through SSH with my early 2000s cell phone, I don't want it!

@n___n

19 күн бұрын

2000s phone? But how can you run your toothbrush's app on that?

@josephsager9425

18 күн бұрын

I love you, Maddox

That's such a ridiculous thing that my brain hung up for a second when reading cloud sunroof in the thumbnail lol. I was like wtf is a cloud-sun-roof

@Trygon

20 күн бұрын

Same here, I was wondering if they found a middle ground between a sunroof and a moonroof... Somehow. And yet, the truth is even dumber.

@AlmightyRager95

20 күн бұрын

Had a similar bit here.

@asharak84

20 күн бұрын

yeah, i work with cloud tech all day every day and I just didn't connect the dots. My brain simply couldn't imagine this.

@imnotusingmyrealname4566

20 күн бұрын

I thought it was one of those electrochromatic ones that turn opague. The clear sunroof becomes cloudy, but the sunroof needing a connection to a server...🤦

@Beowulf95

19 күн бұрын

Reminded me of that asian yt dude (forgetting his name) that parodies a SW engineer and how he was assigned to work with a company that makes ahower curtains and the CEO wanted blockchain and machine learning .... for shower curtains!!!! You think that was ridiculous back then..... idiocracy was a movie until it become a bloody documentary

I'm waiting for the hacking community to jail break these modern cars. Because, this is getting stupid.

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

20 күн бұрын

While nice, that's not the solution. It will only force the manufacturer to push service packs to your car to fix the "problem" (for your safety and protection, of course), which will kick off an endless hack-patch cycle. You're treating the symptom, not the problem. Louis explained what we need to do. Now we need to do it. And we all need to vote RED this november.

@mrminecraft4772

19 күн бұрын

wont happen to this brand in particular. most of these luxury brands really, the types of people why buy luxury cars at high prices aren't the type of people who tinker, unless they pay someone to try and figure out a way to make it work without the cloud it won't happen. the userbase just isn't big enough happen to have that one guy who might try and fix it

@humbughumbughumbug

19 күн бұрын

Fiskers were being dumped at cut throat discount, so they'll probably hack the ever living poop out of them.

@danielplainview6527

19 күн бұрын

@@mrminecraft4772which brand? I still haven’t seen it mentioned in the video or comments.

@bluedistortions

19 күн бұрын

Yes it's going to come to jail breaking, for ICE as much as EV. With these all in one consoles, if anything goes bad anywhere, the entire unit has to be replaced, and it costs $13,000. There's no more component level repair. But behind all those thousands of fragile electronic components, there's a very basic fan, compressor, and vent flap that all work and are just waiting for instructions. I believe the answer will be unplugging the OE shit and having a generic controller. Air conditioners aren't that complicated. The same could be done for transmission controls and fuel/spark controls, they're just a bit more complicated.

It truly is a wonder why they went bankrupt with such innovations like a cloud connected sunroof! Lmao

next thing someone will do is blackout the windshield when the company goes bankrupt and charge the price of the car to make the windshield transparent again.

“YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY” don’t ever forget that phrase

@whateverwhenever8170

20 күн бұрын

@@ferretapocalypse That's the only way communism can work

@nojuanatall3281

20 күн бұрын

Modern day "Work sets you free"

@activ8me3

20 күн бұрын

@@nojuanatall3281 So true.

@CZpersi

20 күн бұрын

Funny, how greed led Capitalism the full circle into Communism.

@tim3172

20 күн бұрын

What do you "own" now? Your phone? Samsung, Apple, Huawei, etc. can brick it (either intentionally or by an accidental update bug.) Your car? Don't pay the registration for a year and/or don't buy insurance and/or don't pay any parking fees you incur. Your house? Don't pay your local taxes/mortgage/etc. and see how long you have that. Everything else? It can be taken from you if you don't pay income tax. If you live in Texas, replace that with the massive property taxes.

Buy a car and then pay a subscription fee of $800 per month to unlock your engine and keep the car usable at all.

@user-yv7dt5je1l

20 күн бұрын

Just crack the software 🤷🏻‍♀️

@jordanreed5866

20 күн бұрын

Tbf we’re already paying subscriptions to the government for them to not steal our car in the way of annual registration fees and license fees

@dezpotizmOFheaven

20 күн бұрын

​@@jordanreed5866 In France they don't do that...

@dezpotizmOFheaven

20 күн бұрын

Don't buy cars from companies that do such things. Easy fix.

@POLARTTYRTM

20 күн бұрын

@@jordanreed5866 aka extortion. I never call those "taxes" because they are just that, outright extortion, protection racket.

I'm at least 75% convinced you're going to be talking about someone who was locked in their car because of this sort of thing in the future

@doom4067

15 күн бұрын

There was a lady that initiated a battery car update while she was inside. I think she finally got out an hour later.

I don't think it's masochism. It's more about caring for having absolute control and ownership over the things you have, and living your life strictly to that principle. And when the world makes it hard for you to own anything, that's when your life becomes hard mode. I genuinely applaude you for sticking it your guns.

I'm upset it took me several minutes to realize the sunroof was *connected* to the cloud, and that it was not in fact a sunroof designed specifically for clouds.

@DarkForce2024

20 күн бұрын

Me to actually, I thought it was one of those dimming sunroofs or something. But then it clicked in my head.

@billyjoejimbob75

20 күн бұрын

Yeah, the title took me a minute.

@ericstatler8172

20 күн бұрын

cloud cars don't have sunroofs, there is too much danger of them floating out of it. This is meteorology 101!

@0LoneTech

20 күн бұрын

There is no cloud. It's at best someone else's computer. Just as "smart" means incomplete (usually lacking basic controls), "cloud" means incomplete and inaccessible.

@rynobehnke8289

19 күн бұрын

My first though was that some company parked there cloud computer on the Sunroof of one of there buildings breaking like every security access rule imaginable.

"You didn't push back when it was happening to your neighbour." True. However as much as I agree with you, you know best how hard it is to keep pushing back for the sake of your neighbour when the moment you try to stand by their side and stand up against the manufacturer that is screwing them over, they are more upset with you.

@rossmanngroup

20 күн бұрын

I read reddit and macrumors comments. Trust me, I know...

@Apostate_ofmind

20 күн бұрын

That's because you're still expecting gratitude for your service. Youre not pushing back for the sake of your neigbor, your pushing back for your own sake. Selfishness makes for the greatest selflessness. The highest form of selfishness actually helps everybody, the middle form of selfishness fucks everyone over. You just need to be better at it.

@YThateflagsCMTSonMental1llness

19 күн бұрын

There's a reason why there are Good Samaritan laws when you save someone's life...

@MorbidEel

19 күн бұрын

@@Apostate_ofmind It doesn't look like OP is expecting gratitude. It is "you don't need to thank me or help me but can you at least not fight me?" The neighbor doing absolutely nothing would be an improvement in the OP's scenario.

@KaeYoss

19 күн бұрын

That's by design. Brand cults are created intentionally. Point out brand's wrongdoing and the brand cult attacks you for attacking brand. Some of the attacks come from paid shills, some from people who drank the kool-aid. Either way, pointing out bad things is made harder by this - the average Joe just doesn't want drama in his life - which is just what the corporations ordered.

In my country, cars are generally a bit more expensive but come with all the subscription features enabled. Take subscription based heated seats as an example. Assume there is no option to buy them upfront, it has to be a subscription, or you won't get it at all, if that's the case they can still sell the car in other countries but if they want to sell it here it MUST have it permanently unlocked by default or else it can't be sell the car here.

The best part is actually that when one is obsessed about possessions, the possessions already own you…

25 year old cars imported from overseas are going to be increasingly popular.

@hazelhazelton1346

19 күн бұрын

Early-to-mid-80s Mercedes-Benz are the favoured fleet car in african countries because of their reliability, repairability, and longevity. :)

@SirBroadsword

19 күн бұрын

Hyundai Lavita master race!

So it goes from "Would you download a Car?" to "Would you Pirate a Car?" But honestly, I hate the idea that someone could gain access to the Sunroof, and gain entry into your car, since it requires Internet Access in order to use!

@arcadeuk

20 күн бұрын

Or just maliciously open your sunroof in rain

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

20 күн бұрын

I will download, print, and pirate absolutely anything, FYI. I do it even when I don't have to do it.

Permission to take the next exit? Permission to stop at a red light? "It wasn't my fault, officer, I didn't have permission...'

It's a victim blaming society.

The amount of engineering, infrastructure, and materials used to get a car to talk to a server and send some amount of data to tell a motor to run, is actually insane. It would save money, time, and effort to not have done this. Bruh!

@JH-pt6ih

20 күн бұрын

It's just software that needs an internet signal or it powers off. It doesn't require any change in the sunroof. If your cars electrical units are governed by a computer it's nothing.

@orppranator5230

20 күн бұрын

@@JH-pt6ihYou aren’t counting the connection to the internet that the car’s computer needs, along with everything on the server’s side. Like, you know, the server.

@robertsmith2956

19 күн бұрын

just like 800 numbers in the old days. you just kept calling the company and wrack up their phone bill. Transmit non stop garbage to their servers and make them pay.

@garivczdanv1458

19 күн бұрын

tHinK Of tHe bAcKchANneLs🚢🚢

@prsplayer210

17 күн бұрын

Its a few lines of code at best, they dont have a dedicated server just for the sunroof. Though cars have zero legitimate reasons to have their own internet connections imo. There is no end user functionality that requires cars to have internet.

This is getting out of hand. We're literally mindlessly walking into owning nothing.

@natalieminnis

20 күн бұрын

I'm not. I spent 90 minutes uninstalling an update for my printer and reinstalling the old software yesterday because the update made it only work with wifi. It's a time-wasting nightmare if you're not a technical genius like Louis, but I struggle on because I refuse to hand over my property and my health to this machine. Just doing an online search for SSH...

@cincinnatusromanus1767

19 күн бұрын

Companies should be OK with "theft" since they also own nothing.

@NOLA-vv3sz

19 күн бұрын

@@cincinnatusromanus1767 No "YOU" own nothing. THEY own everything.

@Hunne2303

19 күн бұрын

yes, and we all have been told it will be that way and that we will be happy

@divinecomedian2

19 күн бұрын

WE are not. People who follow Louis have a brain. There will always be another option, even if it's just foregoing consuming entire swaths of products altogether.

My car isn't connected to anything but the road.

A company that tries to profit by locking basic stuff behind subscription goes bankrupt, that says a lot...

I'm starting to think the ultimate goal of corporations these days is to draw their customers into the consumer equivalent of Stalingrad. Where well-planned support is paramount, and just around the corner.

@vxicepickxv

20 күн бұрын

Their ultimate goal is to get all of their money while providing nothing.

@Aldenfenris

20 күн бұрын

​​@@vxicepickxvexactly. Companies see users as obstacles between them and their wallets/money. I recall that from talks about micro transactions but it applies anywhere.

@robertsmith2956

19 күн бұрын

boeing 800 will have stewardesses passing the hat to get the money to pay to lower the landing gear.

Honestly, I’ve been taught a very good principle at school and here: (censored to avoid bans) “They came for the A Group. I didn’t care or fight for the As. Not my problem. They came for the B Group. I didn’t care or fight for the Bs. Not my problem. They came for the C Group. I didn’t care or fight for the Cs. Not my problem. It wasn’t me, after all. Then they came for me. No one came to fight for me. There was no one left to.” Honestly, it’s everyone’s problem when it comes to these companies. No matter who’s being affected or who’s responsible. We need to stamp it out before it festers. Otherwise, we all get screwed together.

@wilh3lmmusic

20 күн бұрын

First they came...

All this crap is going to spawn a cottage industry. Eventually, people are going to buy their new cars and then take them to someone who goes through and hooks everything to normal buttons/switches. Then there's also going to be people who design the buttons and their cases to look better and to match different makes/models of cars better. Then, eventually the automakers will make this illegal for "safety reasons". When cop searches your vehicle, they'll overlook the brick of cocaine in your trunk, but they'll take you into custody when they see that you've disconnected your car's AC from the cloud.

"He chose the path of perpetual torment. In his ravenous hatred he found no peace and with boiling blood he scoured the umbral planes seeking the right to repair against the will of the dark tech giants who have wronged him. He wore the crown of ownership and those who tasted the bite of his videos named him... The Rossmann"

"We chose to make a company in New York not because it’s easy but because it is hard!" -Louis Rossmann

I recently went to my cellphone provider to change my old-ish phone and told him I wanted a cellphone that wasn't from Apple, Samsung or Google, and had an auxiliary port and a microSD card slot. His first response was literally "jesus, that doesn't give you much options". But he did find one, so I'm now an owner of a Motorolla.

@wonderwalls3565

20 күн бұрын

How stupid are you for buying your phone from a cell phone provider.

@LittleMopeHead

20 күн бұрын

Which model?

@ribertfranhanreagen9821

20 күн бұрын

My xiaomi phone have both.

@DarkForce2024

20 күн бұрын

Yep, the Oneplus Nord N30 (their budget phone) has all of those. But yet their higher, more expensive model (the Oneplus 12) doesn't. This really makes no sense, pay more for less?

@geraldscott4302

20 күн бұрын

I have a $50 flip phone from consumer cellular. No internet, just a phone. I do not carry an internet connection around with me. The only one I have is sitting on my desk, and is connected by a physical phone line. The WiFi connection in my modem has been disabled.

HE DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!!

@AleksandarBosakov

16 күн бұрын

Achievement unlocked :)

We need consumer protection laws that says, if you pay for a feature you get to use the feature, with no added or hidden fees. Cars DO NOT NEED TO BE CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET FOR ANY REASON.

_Why do people keep buying this stuff?_ This is the kind of crap you don't find out about until AFTER you've bought the car.

@129jasper1

20 күн бұрын

Caveat emptor? A fool and his money? We need to be smarter, and meaner, and not allow bad business to thrive.

@VictorGarciaR

20 күн бұрын

Plenty of people buy something and then ask around to find out if it is going to serve them well. I am in several RV/campervan telegram chanels and plenty of members starting diy proyects by buying a lot of parts... And then they ask how to do it / if what they bought is any good

@RESISTAGE

20 күн бұрын

because there are A LOT of people who frankly don't care about money and unlike u they can afford things they enjoy . especially z-gen people . so stop crying .

@Opachki69420

20 күн бұрын

@@RESISTAGE You sound like the type of dude to date a girl that has an onlyfans

@caddyguy5369

20 күн бұрын

​@@RESISTAGEEnjoying a button to open a window that requires an internet connection. Ahhh the simple luxuries of life brainiacs with money get to enjoy. 😂😂😂

*today we learned that Louis likes being whipped with an Apple Lightning cable*

@alli3219

20 күн бұрын

Aaahh... more! 😂

@alli3219

20 күн бұрын

Ahhh... 😂 More!

@TheAntondi

20 күн бұрын

That is just incorrect, he only accepts USB-C cables!

There's lots of things I've spoken out against only to get called names and made fun. They all came true and those that mocked me cried that know one warned them or stood up for them. I agree with your principles, I also agree that sometimes you need to set your principles aside and tell someone they're an effing idiot.

Why would you want to change your airconditioning via the internet or whatever? You are merely one step removed from losing control…

@prsplayer210

17 күн бұрын

He lives in Texas, it costs about 80% of your electric costs to cool your home and every degree you raise your thermostat is money saved, being able to raise it remotely is very useful, or turn it down to your normal temp when on way home from work or whatever. The home automation he is doing is completely open source and managed by him, zero chance of him losing control of it.

Just wait until your car decides it's time to be serviced and just shuts down, only able to be unlocked by the dealership who will charge you $2000 for the privilege

@nipupper6412

20 күн бұрын

In oz Toyota utes detect dust ingestion due to faulty air filter. Car is limited to 5 km/h. Problem is your 100’s of km from road on a 4x4 trip. Also Toyota refuses to pay for repairs under warranty even if you stop immediately and bring to them. They do redesign the air filters for next model though.

@alli3219

20 күн бұрын

Don't forget the tow fee 😂

@_sneer_

20 күн бұрын

Mercedes had special brake pump that counted the number of times the driver, or should I say user, pressed the brake pedal. When that went over a certain, pre-programmed number, it would display a warning that you have to go to dealer and replace it. If you kept driving it’d just prevent the car from driving. That was in their E-class 15-20 years ago. Cost of replacement at the dealer was in thousands.

@arcadeuk

20 күн бұрын

@@_sneer_ Yep, my SBC brakes "timed out" and as at the time the only option was to pay the dealer thousands, I sold the car at auction for very little. A few years later Mercedes were forced to extend the warranty to 10 or 25 years (depending on country) but by then it was too late for me

@Pyrichia

19 күн бұрын

So, John Deere, basically.

The only blessing is that the same corporate mindset that thinks this sh**t is a great idea also won't pay for decent security, so with luck all this s**t will get hacked and rooted. Suddenly the rip-off car with paywalled features becomes an unlocked bargain!

@professorhaystacks6606

19 күн бұрын

Historically this approach has had mixed results. Early DVD players were pretty easily jailbroken, but later models you have to hard mod, and later model DVD drives have a hardware lockout meaning you have to practically build a new drive to jailbreak them.

@xanderplayz3446

19 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the i-Opener.

@cosmicskydragon333

19 күн бұрын

That isn't a blessing, it is a curse. You are falling into their trap and helping. This means people who can get around it will still buy it, then when your only option is to get cars with stuff like this they can now push to make it highly illegal under the guise you are endangering others.

You should talk about Toyota making remote start a subscription feature. Really sucks that one of the best automakers is participating in this bullshit.

I'm all for companies having a clear plan to open source their shit in case of bankrupcy so we can host our servers to continue operating our devices. But even if that were true things like opening a sunroof have no business being handled by a server.

I"m trying to stay away of any company that needs subscriptions. This is a very informative channel, Thank you

@barongerhardt

19 күн бұрын

Dang, I seem to sub to electricity, natural gas, mobile phone service, and property taxes.

@MonkeyJedi99

19 күн бұрын

@@barongerhardt Your utilities are noa subscription model (phone, maybe-ish) because the payment is based on how much you use. Are the utility companies abusive with prices and fees? Heck yes. BUt not a subscription.

@unlimitedpancakes

19 күн бұрын

@barongerhardt excellent example of a strawman, nice job

_"A Cloud sunroof is just someone else's car"_ ? {:o:O:}

It's incredible how we fight with each other. We blame the individual. We blame the victim. We do not stand up in unison against Big Brother and the conglomerates who control us. They are winning. Louis's rage is righteous. Just imagine if we all rose up with such rage against the government and the donor class. We need 100 million Louis' to effect change. Your health is being compromised and you're being bankrupted. Every product is made to maximize profits at the expense of consumers. Recently I watched a video about toxic clothing. Search on KZread for: "Lululemon Leggings Contain What?" As long as Americans are complacent and don't riot against the oligarchy, it will only get worse.

Companies have been getting away with this sort of thing for a long time, connections to the cloud are just the newest way for them to make money from you {by harvesting your data}. I have a 2006 Gen2 Prius. The dashboard display has an under-powered capacitor on it which means that it is fairly common for the display to fail to boot up. Which means no speedometer, no gas gauge, no reverse camera, and the car might not want to turn off. Has Toyota upgraded the board? Nope. replacement boards still come with the same under-powered capacitor. Apparently, it is not worth the extra $1 it would cost to fix an issue that plagues thousands of customers.

You can have a subscription to open your sunroof for a free one year trial but to close your sunroof you need to pay 2k.

The obsession with connecting *everything* to the internet is how we get Skynet

@MARKHENSTROM

19 күн бұрын

T1 and T2 are incredible films. Everything that followed was terrible.

@pumkin610

19 күн бұрын

That's incorrect, we're gonna get skynet anyways because people are putting everything into A.I., putting their faith and money in it

@qui-gonsgin8747

19 күн бұрын

CT_OS "Everything is connectet"

@HickoryDickory86

19 күн бұрын

The drive to have everything perpetually online needs to be classified as a mental illness and treated as such.

Imagine: the most dystopian society micromanaged by the "elite." You have zero ownership of the products you purchase. Anything can be shut off with the push of a button. If you don't agree with your leaders, your digital currency (now the only way to purchase) is taken. You have just seen the not so distant future.

I tried telling people when Adobe started their subscription model it was the horn of the Rhino in the door, now the beast is in the house and wrecking it.

"We have special promotion today! 20 door openings for the price of 15!!". I think there was already a problem with one of the large EV manufacturers, where door handles could not be used with a low battery, because they needed electricity to open. Imagine that after a car crash.

@nashooo5903

19 күн бұрын

some weeks ago a woman got stuck in a Tesla because the electronic doors stopped responding while the vehicle was updating 😂

@MorbidEel

19 күн бұрын

@@nashooo5903 but was she truly stuck or simply ignorant? I don't know if other models have it but the @JerryRigEverything video("How to fix BULLET HOLES on a CYBERTRUCK!") showed an emergency release handle for when the electronics stop working.

@nashooo5903

19 күн бұрын

@@MorbidEel I believe she was just ignorant

@levanane2413

19 күн бұрын

@@MorbidEel The point is : it's a fking door, it should open easily just like any other car door that you've seen in your life. Having to search for an emergency button somewhere isn't exactly a natural reflex when you've driven non-Tesla cars for years

@AleksandarBosakov

16 күн бұрын

@@MorbidEel WTF? An "emergency door handle" ?!? What about just "door handle". You know, the device that opens the door, just like it did for the last 10000 years. How is it "ignorance" to be baffled that the device invented soon after we left the caves suddenly doesn't work? And SEARCHING for the emergency release is the last thing you need in an emergency. You don't SEARCH for the fire extinguisher - it's bright red on an obvious place; you don't search for the emergency exit on a plane - it's clearly designated and you are debriefed about it; you don't search for the "break glass" hammer on busses - clearly designated. There are a lot of electronic devices or "software defined" ones, that spare a lot of mechanical or electrical complexity and/or are way tinier/cheaper/more reliable. But If you already have the mechanical device anyway - a simple and reliable one on top of that, what's the purpose of the electronic one?

"you didn't push back when it happened to your neighbour, no one is going to push back when it happens to you" 👌💯

People have called me crazy for over a decade for being anti-criminal in the online art world. And always the same song and dance of "Why do *you* care? They're stealing from *other* people!" and "It's JUST a business model." and: It did start "small" with them "only" scamming people of $50. And gradually, over the years, that has turned into "only $2000". And the same "It's *your* own fault if you fall for it!". And today, we somewhat regularly see people make off with 40k or more. And the same victim blaming response. I did amusing see a pro-crime art website lately start including a "Do you know this person?" warning header on its message service. After they proudly made it illegal to call out anyone that impersonates someone. So, seems something *very bad* happened to cause that.

"Found on road dead"... All cars are junk, and all cars are great - depending on your luck or what you consider troublesome or not. My wife has the only Ford we ever owned - a 2009 Edge. In 13 years the only repair was a bad transfer case - $1200. Other than that, brakes every 50K and plugs at 90K miles, tires and 12V battery. Might buy another.

The same behavior got us Mayors, DAs, and Judges who don't want to enforce the law. And when the public sees the disasters in front of them they have a press conference and talk about outside forces creating the issue, it's never them or their policies, and they stay in their jobs or get replaced by somebody worse.

@KaeYoss

19 күн бұрын

The chief clown of Chicago recently blamed Nixon for the absolute state of his city.

@Scoots1994

19 күн бұрын

@@KaeYoss At least Nixon is a major cause of the actual systemic racism our government used to do. Not that he has ANY part in the demise of modern Chicago :)

@nunyabidness3075

16 күн бұрын

Internet Griper: The corporations own the government and write all the laws. Same Griper: We need a law to stop this!

@Scoots1994

16 күн бұрын

@@nunyabidness3075 We have the laws, we just need them to be enforced :)

@nunyabidness3075

16 күн бұрын

@@Scoots1994 You know that, but do the internet gripers? Meh? My new thing is to tell people to go vote, and if you are not happy, don’t vote for any incumbents. If you can’t be bothered to figure out who has the office, stay home and mind your own business.

All this crap started when it became possible to switch on your lights from an app instead of getting off your lard arse and walking a few feet to the wall switch.

...that hurt. Seriously. But I needed to hear that. Looking back, I'm guilty of exactly that kind of shaming ('ew, you got an iPhone', etc) and it sucks. I saw your first vid on activism but this one really rocked my foundation and made me realize I was apart of that group once before. I hate it and I will be careful not to continue that path. Thanks for the wake-up call, genuinely 👍

What I resent is that when I'm being effed, I don't even get a cuddle afterwards any more.

@m.k.8158

19 күн бұрын

or a reach-around during the effing.

That Maddox reference was a deep cut and I appreciate it.

Former Ford Engineer here - Ford would like to do this (i.e. - a subscription service) for EVERYTHING !!!!

@victorchen9170

19 күн бұрын

What subscriptions? I've never seen any

@madmax2069

19 күн бұрын

That's every company

@madmax2069

19 күн бұрын

​@@victorchen9170 they said that Ford would like to do this, not that they are doing this.

Locked in the car: "He will ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston. He's the man who never returned" ("The MTA Song", Kingston Trio)

“Cloud sunroof” really confused me for a second there before I realized cloud meant “someone else’s computer” and not “fluffy white thing in the sky”

@OreoHT

19 күн бұрын

I'm glad I wasn't the only one 😂 Did you "steal" this comment? Another person posted almost the exact same thing 10 mins before you, lol.

THIS... IS WHY... I buy ONLY older, serviced cars... The options built into the car... WORKS, PERIOD. NO subscriptions, NO, data collection, NO 'Ring fencing', NOTHING. I put key in, start the car, drive and use whatever I like... And I'll do this till I die... 😎🇬🇧

@HUEHUEUHEPony

20 күн бұрын

They're making those cars illegal

@Accrovideogames

20 күн бұрын

Sadly, you'll most likely live to see the day when buying oil powered cars becomes illegal and/or gasoline stations cease to exist. Although it's a good thing for the environment, it has the perverse effect of allowing manufacturers to fuck you up. All electric cars have these things. I think your best bet would be to build your own car at this point, or heavily modify an existing one.

@GoodOlTazzy

20 күн бұрын

​@@Accrovideogames100% won't happen anytime soon, at least not in most of your lifetimes. The EU tries to end the production of new gas powered cars by 2030 or something like that but it won't be illegal to drive, own or buy old cars. I'm not going to buy an EV in my life and will continue to drive gas powered cars. Not to mention, a lot of not most cars in Europe are diesel.

@IMBlakeley

19 күн бұрын

Problem is eventually the pool of old cars will shrink, sure there'll be some but not for everyone. My now car is 18 years old, I bet it doesn't last another 18 years.

@thedarkknight1971

19 күн бұрын

@@IMBlakeley I currently drive a 2007 Fiat Grande Punto 1.2 8v. Keep it maintained, but like we said, once it's done, then a change of similar (low tech/cloud disconnected) car will do... And if I run out of cars, I can always return to motorcycling (35 years all season riding) 😉👍

The moment I wake up, I am blessed by a video from Louis Rossman. Peak content at 5:10

@captaincaption

20 күн бұрын

𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 Louis

@madeline-onassis

20 күн бұрын

@@captaincaption this is funniest shit i've ever seen on yt i want him to take a vacation so bad

@purerage7963

20 күн бұрын

That acting really came from the heart.

Throughout my teenage years, I gobbled up sci fi storiesof the cyberpunk type and dreamed of a future where I could get my brain equipped with a neural interface to plug into any sort of virtual environment for gaming, working or hanging out with my friends. I did not expect the evil-corporations-gorvern-your-private-life aspect of those stories to become true. Much less that they become true before remotely controlable implants became real.

I'm the family IT guy. My cousin got a Mac and was offended when I told her I would absolutely not be helping her with it. She was so happy she brought an apple laptop and was bragging about it at Christmas. Then I told her good luck because I would not touch it and that when she eventually needed help with it, she would have to go elsewhere. Oh boy was she not happy. She was expecting me to set it up for her because she had zero idea how to do anything with it. 😂😂😂 I have to hand it to her, she stuck with it. She used it until it died and called me for advice on what to buy to replace it.

First company that comes out with LOW tech always gets my business. Until then I drive my 14 year old car thanks.

"whats next? you go bankrupt you're gonna lock me in the car?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JorgeLopez-qj8pu

20 күн бұрын

Megacorp: “What a wonderful idea”

Zero motorcycles have been doing this for years. They will sell you a motorcycle and charge you monthly to unlock full power mode.

At this point I don't really fault people for picking brands, I will still hate certain brands but at this point even "good" companies are becoming garbage because garbage policies make more money. but yeah, the apparent greed companies have and that people allow is nauseating.

How We Get Fucked S1E1: Automaker with cloud sunroof goes bankrupt.

@therealromanian

20 күн бұрын

if only this would be S1E1... unfortunately I think this is the final season for reasonable products, unless we stop being consumers

Things I learned today: Louis likes to get punished in the bedroom. ...and Linus probably watches from behind the curtains.

I actually have been viewing your videos for some time and always thought you had some very valid points though I thought - at the time - that they were interesting but not always directly relevant to my situation. Maybe that's because I never was one who went for the 'latest and flashiest' gadgets etc. But I have come to notice that now that a great many more posters are coming to reflect your views and understandably so. The first folks were guys mostly in the automotive sector - the technicians, garage owners etc. Planned obsolescence, apparently deliberate design features discouraging repairs even by regular techs etc., needless complexity and associated costs. I think now this is a major consumer issue. It's not always immediately obvious but our rights to repair and full ownership are actually part and parcel [and an intrinsic part at that] of our freedom to have and own private property. Thanks for keeping the torch lighted Mr. Rossman.

As someone who started my software engineering career writing low-level TCP/IP software by hand (so I'm not at all afraid of complicated tech), I want a stupid everything. I don't want to have to log in to ANYTHING to be able to use my car, or my thermostat, or my dryer, or my washer. The teeny tiny electronic features ("schedule your temperature changes!!!" really? Like it's a crippling event to touch the temperature control that I walk by every time I enter or leave the house). Tech is fragile, hard to maintain, and as you are pointing out, is now totally destroying our ability to use our own products. P.S. You call out Apple towards the end of the video, but it started earlier. I first got screwed by activation servers shutting down when Adobe disabled their Type-on-Call servers in the very early 2000s. $2,000 worth of fonts I had "purchased" suddenly became inaccessible to me, because they decided to disable those servers.

This has to stop! Class-action lawsuits, government intervention, whatever it takes.

@dingo7055

20 күн бұрын

Government intervention is absolutely essential but the mob have been brainwashed into screeching "eeewwww socialism!!" at the slightest hint of intervention.

@geraldscott4302

20 күн бұрын

Government intervention is what caused this in the first place. The government (any government) is the most evil criminal organization in the world.

@Accrovideogames

20 күн бұрын

Those corporations lobby (bribe) the government though.

@alli3219

20 күн бұрын

But, but,... forced arbitration 😖

@szerdrew8034

20 күн бұрын

BuT yoU aGReeD tO thE TerRms oF SerVICe wHen YoU BoUGht iT

First they turned the friggin frogs gay, and I did not speak out... because I was not a frog. Then they came for the televisions, and I did not speak out... because I was not a television. Then they came for the cloud enabled sunroofs, and I did not speak out... because I was not a cloud enabled sunroof. Then they came for me... and there was no one left to speak for me 😮‍💨

Im pretty sure its free to open the sunroof, but you have to be subscribed to close it... and lets not forget about the surcharge for closing it on rainy days.

This is so ridiculous, I didn't even know what a cloud sunroof was at first... It took me some time to get the internet into the equation...

Wild that to this day, you can get parts for Yugos, Trabants, Nashes, Studebakers, Packards, and DeLoreans, but can't operate or repair a 3 year old car without connecting to "the cloud"

@joes9954

20 күн бұрын

The company that owns the DeLorean IP is making the effort to reproduce MORE parts for less than 10,000 cars.

@sabersz

20 күн бұрын

​@@joes9954meanwhile Ford doesn't supply replacement parts for models like the Granada anymore. Bit of a shame, but DeLorean is an isolated example of replacement parts being done right...being a cultural phenomenon also helps

@joenitro9024

20 күн бұрын

​@@saberszcheck out dynacorn , you can buy a complete 196x mustang unibody, just add vin.

@GoodOlTazzy

20 күн бұрын

I sure love my Yugo.

This is dystopian...

@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs

20 күн бұрын

It is indeed. TRUMP 24 - FIX THE PROBLEM

@levanane2413

19 күн бұрын

@@HeWhoIsWhoHeIs wot

Problem is that when it reaches the point where the choice is not available. Try buying a phone with a removable battery. I had a manager years ago that stated the customer has a choice, to buy or not to buy. When the corporations have enough power to limit the choice of the consumer to that point, the only chance to change it, is an uphil battle, because the corporations will exploit any loophole in any legislation enacted.

They should at the very least be required to release the technical information to fix this. At the very least. What would be reasonable is to create an update to allow these features to work without through the infotainment display or a phone connected via wifi or Bluetooth.