Bought a model 3 in 2021 and a model y in 2023. No issues at all. It is all part of the transition. The more affordable the better I say.

@thisisnumber0

23 күн бұрын

Thank you for stating the bleedin' obvious....

@user-wf4cc1oo6o

23 күн бұрын

How much value has it lost in that time ? I saw a Tesla that’s been on car sales low Km and it’s been on there for 2 years 😳. Unsure if the old reliable is the better option in the current climate Big risk to save 5 bucks a week on fuel

My wife and I originally went to test drive a Model Y back in March. Once we saw the price and all the benefits of the car, we opted to trade in my Rav4 Hybrid. The MY is so much more fun to drive, and unlike the Rav4, it doesn't make my wife car sick to ride in. I don't regret the decision for one minute.

@Tesla.tricks

23 күн бұрын

I couldn’t agree more , your story is exact replica to mine . Just replace rav4 with mazda .. although to this day I still have respect to the mazda as it didn’t miss a beat and was ok.. but not as sharp and quick and responsive to Tesla .. actually no car touches the Tesla in that regard. We went for a 10 day Xmas holiday this year ,, and nothing I ever drove was this good and relaxing on freeway , u notice it so much uphill and also downhill where there’s no clunky downshifts 👍👍 love it!! Plus where we went it was a big attention grabber as Tesla not many of them over there.

The Tesla Model 3 and Model Y are tremendous bargains in Australia, Tesla is going to sell every car they ship into Australia, and probably almost overnight. Australia also has tons of solar-sourced electricity, and gains more every day. Both Tesla models are fantastic driving experiences, super-safe, extremely durable, and overall cost of ownership is much cheaper than ICE cars. They have essentially no maintenance of any significance. Once you buy a Tesla you won't buy an ICE car ever again. And no stealership hassles. Tesla has no peer at this time. Thanks Viking. Cheers! :)

@RandyP-jr1ek

23 күн бұрын

Sounds like I need to move to Australia! lol

@user-wf4cc1oo6o

23 күн бұрын

Or out of the city 🥳

@bryans2790

17 күн бұрын

What an ignorant comment

@bobss3704

11 күн бұрын

They are not selling, they're piling up at the dockside

When the Model 3 was first revealed, a lot of fellow Model S owners were upset that the 3 had about 90-95% of the S features and capabilities at half the price. I celebrated it. My car did not lose anything and was still the same car the next morning. (It did improve with subsequent software updates.) It just meant that subsequent cars would be cheaper and/or better.

Tesla are also aiming for the commercial fleet market in Australia. Beating the price of the RAV4 is a smart move for the fleet market as well as for individual consumers.

@2funny269

23 күн бұрын

the petrol Rav4 is 20 thousand less than both

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

@@2funny269 That is assuming the company is buying the base model, which most don't. Companies look to whole of life costs, which includes purchase, operating and re-sale. Many companies also seek green credentials. Both of these drives companies towards the hybrid versions, which are dearer. I also don't see where you get $20k cheaper. There are currently 76 NEW RAV4's listed on Carsales. They range between $45k and $65k. The Model Y sits right in the middle. So Viking is absolutely correct when he says that companies will and should look at a Model Y if they are considering whole of life costs and also seeking a green rating

@jovanleon7

23 күн бұрын

​@@2funny269 can you refill it using cheap electricity at night when you sleep? Or free if you got solar panel? I don't think so, too. 😂

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

@@zoransarin5411 Steer clear of EVs if you value resell, insurance, safety and range.

@zoransarin5411

20 күн бұрын

@@14lou you sound like an alarmist with those bits of FUD. I know many people with an EV and not a single one of them is complaining of the things you mention. Did you know that the Tesla Model Y is one of the safest cars you can buy according to the US and Euro crash tests? When you don't have IC engine sitting in front of you, safety can be better managed with an EV. As for range, if you google the average distance most people travel daily, you would see that many only need to recharge once a week, if that. Only stupid people who can't work out how far they travel each week and see whether they could have an EV that raise the issue of range. Statistics also tell you that most people hold their cars for 11-13 years before selling. So tell me how the resale on 2013 EVs is going? My friends tell me the insurance is more expensive, but not enough to concern them They figure they are saving far more on fuel and maintenance to more than compensate for higher insurance. You just keep peddling you FUD Lou

I think you're spot on regarding resale, Sam. Yes, the price drops do have a big impact, but the wise move is to look at what you've enjoyed and will enjoy during ownership. Speaking to to a Tesla owner, he said you're buying technology, like an iPhone, so expect the newer models to be better, and cheaper. The same with laptops, desktops, and tv screens. I think the electric vehicle market is still developing and with new competitors coming, there will be fair degree of unrest for a while yet. And like you, I fail to understand the hate thrown at Tesla: what's not to like about an excellent car at a great price?

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

I find it amusing that there is constant outrage each time the established cars get upgraded, and their prices go up. Tesla is bringing prices down, and the same people are outraged at prices going down. Your point about new technology is spot on. However, I would suggest that the Model 3 and Y are pretty close now to being at the cheapest price they will likely get to and for Tesla to make a sufficient margin on their sale. There may be some more small drops as battery prices fall further, but I don't expect them to drop much more at all. They are close to becoming established cars with established prices

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

If only that was true

@Ray-dv1md

21 күн бұрын

Sure, I guess if you have money to burn, throwing 60-70 k on a new toy that will be worth less than half that in 12-months might be your cup or tea. Not quite the same as $1200 - $1500 on the new must have iPhone because Joyce next door has one.

The problem is not the cost of cars in Australia. It's the cost of buying a house & having enough money left over to buy a car.

@harrygroundwater2590

23 күн бұрын

Haha. True

@JoeyBlogs007

23 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

The top 4 best selling cars in 2023 were, in order Ford Ranger, Toyota HiLux, Isuzu D-MAX, and Toyota RAV4. These are not cheap cars. The average prices are likely over $50k for each of them. So I would dispute what you say on that basis.

@chillfluencer

23 күн бұрын

...are those real houses?...because many of them seem like cardboard homes.

@chillfluencer

23 күн бұрын

​@@zoransarin5411...proof that many people have no knowledge about the car market.

I bought a Model Y RWD one year ago and haven't regretted it. I intend to hold onto my car for over 10 years, so if it lasts that long without causing too many problems, I will be happy. If the predicted longevity of LFP batteries is correct, hopefully by that stage, repurposing the car battery for home electricity storage will be an economically viable option. As will any high technology, prices will come down and get better. It's the price of being an early adopter.

@darrenkay4551

23 күн бұрын

Then you just throw the car away as it will be worthless. I don't see how these cars are good for our environment at all when they are disposable. 😕😕

@christopherj2231

23 күн бұрын

@@darrenkay4551 Educate yourself Darren for goodness sake.

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

@@darrenkay4551 Yes. Educate yourself. According to Kelley Blue Book - "An electric car will last as long as a car with an internal combustion engine (ICE), if not longer, because electric vehicles (EVs) don’t have all the mechanical components of an ICE vehicle. In other words, there are more things that can wear out or go wrong in an ICE car than in an EV". A 2021 white paper published by the International Council on Clean Transportation compared the lifetime carbon emissions, both today and in 2030, of mid-sized vehicles in Europe, the US, China, and India across a variety of ­powertrain types. The study found that all-electric vehicles in Europe produced 66 to 69 per cent less carbon-dioxide emissions than comparable ICE vehicles. In the US, a typical EV produced 60 to 68 per cent less emissions over its lifetime. It isn't rocket science to see that an EV is all round a superior product to a fossil fuel burning machine, even in countries where much of the electricity is generated from fossil fuels. However this transition is seeing both industries change, Energy and Transport. With ICE cars, there is no change. They burned oil 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago and will continue to do so in 20 years from now. They are a mature technology that only has the potential for incremental improvement. EVs on the other hand, coupled with a greening electricity grid, have so much further to go.

@darrenkay4551

23 күн бұрын

@christopherj2231 I wonder how many battery replacements you will have had in 10 years 🤔 Good luck trying to keep your Tesla going for that long 😂 One day you might realise your mistake buying into these cars. Model Y means "Y the hell did i buy this shitbox" 🤣 But there's so many uneducated people here that you probably won't. I hope you reply back in 10 years to let us all know what car you own. Will bet anything it ain't the car you got now 😁

@Horus070

23 күн бұрын

@@darrenkay4551what you talking about dude? My car is going on almost 5 years old and the battery has barely been affected at all. Maybe you are talking about very specific cases or biased articles against EV.

I ordered a SR Model Y on Day 1 and paid $68,900 plus on roads. At now $55,900 new I will have suffered nearly $20,000 - c.30% of the value - worth of depreciation in under 2 years of ownership. This weigh out-strips the fuel and maintenance savings I have reaped from EV ownership. I understand I am an early adopter, this is an industry phenomenon and yes, my next car will definitely be another EV but OUCH - it still hurts! 😥

@elftax

23 күн бұрын

Don't worry, there's one born everyday... imagine the people who bought CyberTruck

@markuc

23 күн бұрын

No imagine people that bought Bitcoin. That rollercoaster is far more insane. At least you get to enjoy the EV, don't treat it as an investment because it's not

@stefan2796

23 күн бұрын

EVs depreciate like consumer electronics, from sales price to zero in less than 10 years...

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

@@markuc Anyone who bought Bitcoin has increased their net worth, so not sure why you'd make that comparison with EV losers.

@markuc

22 күн бұрын

@@14lou because people here complaining about price reductions are just like crypto bros. EVs are not investments! Don't act like prices need to go up!

Kia have been overpriced with their EVs since the start, and the sales figures show it. I cant see why they would change.

@christopherj2231

23 күн бұрын

They will change that is what happens with competition it can be no other way.

Thanks to China for this fantastic opportunity 😊

@electricviking

23 күн бұрын

Our pleasure!

@leathallee2047

23 күн бұрын

Bought the Y quicksilver on the 3rd May and Tesla just knocked $5k off my price. So your right Sam, they do pass it on 👍

RAV 4 is awd with dash and HUD and most will e running in EV mode 80% off the Time and a range over 800km and dont worry about waiting for EV chargers Same with the Outlander PHEV

Am I missing something? Price of Model Y in VIC is $57,700 which includes delivery and can’t see any option to pickup plus charging cables on top of this price.. which last time I checked you cannot charge without it. Still not complaining about the price reduction 😊

@shivendrasingh9904

23 күн бұрын

Buy from QLD n transfer rego... $6K off via govt grants

@Tescam14

23 күн бұрын

Costs about $130 for charging cable to public chargers that are BYO (small percentage) otherwise buy the Tesla Mobile Connector $550 or the wall charger for $800 (plus installation costs)

Great for the Australian Market. I must check NZ equivalent. (You have 0nly 10% GST: we have 15% so we need to allow for those adjustments. Each US state would have sales taxes too. I remember food and coffee had a 10% sales tax in the west)

Not really a surprise if the reports from Australia in the European news media are correct, that the significant early growth of 2024 is apparently over. “EV sales drop for first time in more than three years as combustion-electric vehicles continue exponential growth”, reported in Europe from an Australian magazine. However, dropping prices is consistent with Tesla’s strategy when face with this situation. Whilst competitive for new purchases, it’s a nightmare for market stability.

The Toyota RAV4 and RAV4 Hybrid are very popular here. AWD SUVs in general are very popular here because of the seven months of rain, freezing rain and snow we get. That is why most people drive SUVs or trucks even though the cost of gas is high.

@KhanR1-qm2xi

23 күн бұрын

Tesla Model Y and Model 3 are better.

@katherandefy

23 күн бұрын

Those EV drivers are converts to EV tech tho unlike ICE, which is basically Victorian-era tech. That is new. We have only been driving EVs since 2010s. ICE tech is 150 years old and can’t be improved.

@KhanR1-qm2xi

23 күн бұрын

@@katherandefy I agree. EV's are still in their nascent stage.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

@@KhanR1-qm2xi Yeah, wake me up when they become practical for distant travel.

@KhanR1-qm2xi

22 күн бұрын

@@14lou Tesla's network of EV charging stations makes nationwide travel possible.

Great video

I bought Model 3 in 2021. Have been very happy with value and quality of the car. I do not mind the recent price cuts because i have been saving at least $6000 p.a. in running costs, which offsets any negatives like price cuts after i bought. In other words, waiting for any further price cuts or better tech, may be costing you more than switching from ICE to EV now at the moment. Future resale value is not a concern to me because i plan to use it for at least 10 years or 250K kilometres, at which point we are probably only talking about 1 or 2K dollars difference in resale value. I am also not concerned by wear and tear or potential high cost of replacing parts when car is at later stage of life because not many moving parts in EV. So should be almost nothing to replace. I have taken Battery Degradation rate into account, and still think EV benefits outweighs costs. I also like Tesla’s over the air software updates, which have helped with maintaining quality of battery and car. I am keen to get FSD once that becomes available in Australia. I am an urban driver, drive about 50kms each day, charge at home (normal home power outlet) or charge on Destination Chargers in local shopping centres.

@lenawong1303

23 күн бұрын

I have solar panels on roof to help with free charging. But for those who don’t, there are power companies in Australia like OVO energy that offer free electricity between 11am and 2pm

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

Just pray you are not involved in an accident that totally upends your dubious economic reasoning which I doubt factors in the inevitable road tax levy incoming for BEVs.

Sam none of my cars have been money makers. I drive them until the maintenance is too high. Love my model 3. 28k miles of joy and comfort

Bro, other factors make Teslas more expensive when compared to gas/hybrid cars e.g. charging time (big one), range anxiety, battery issues, insurance, resale value, warranty period, etc. Therefore, a 1-1 mapping of MSRPs might not be the most accurate way of comparing both. My impression after test-droving the Highland Model 3 yesterday, is that it is of low build quality. For all the hype behind Teslas, I expected more. I mean, the fabric on the door had no cushion behind it and was moving all over the place when I touched it. It felt like it could get torn at any time. I also think the interior is too minimalistic for the "price point". I use quotes because we do not even know the actual price point of a Model 3 or Model Y. The prices are all over the place.

The TV analogy is pretty good.

The model Y is tremendous. But the clincher is the FDS and the charging network.

Kia EV3 soon

I'm all in on Revux. Presales have the highest returns, and this one’s gold.

WoW ! Awesome deals for a TESLA MODEL Y. Makes me wanna move to Australia ! 😉💖⚡️🔋🌞🌏✌️

@Fred-Jai

22 күн бұрын

Don't be fooled It's not that cheap! plus cost of living is Oz is horrendous in almost every facet of life.

Anyone know as to why my delivery date changed?? It changed like three times since I put my order in and it used to say May 25th to June 22nd at first but as of this morning it says June 5th to 19th. I got a blue on black. Worst part about all this is I won’t be in the country between these dates so how will I even receive delivery? What will happen to my car? USA

If you are going to choose between 2024 M3 and 2024 MY, which of the two are you going to choose?

The RAV4 hybrid has a 2.5 L for banger so it sucks gas driving it in town. You can save a lot of money on gas if you drive it in hybrid mode. That goes double if you are slogging through the snow. My little Mitsubishi Sport AWD gets 16 L/ 100 km slogging through the snow in Winter and it has the little 2.0 L four banger. In the summer I can get 11L/100km in town and 8L/100km on the highway. I would love it it Mitsubishi made a small hybrid but they don't. The Mitsubishi Outlander hybrid is really sweet but at twice the price of the sport it is a no go. I can buy a lot of gas for $25k.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

I'm not in the snow, but in very hilly country where the RAV4 Hybrid typically achieves 5.6L/100km down to 4.7L/100km with extra care in driving.

Taking delivery of a Model 3 highland tomorrow. We're getting the benefit of 3 price reductions and increased value relative to competitors like the RAV 4.

@oldbloke204

23 күн бұрын

Give me the RAV4 any time.

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

@@oldbloke204 Have you driven a Model 3 at all?

@oldbloke204

23 күн бұрын

@@zoransarin5411 No need. I've driven all sorts of things over a long period so it wouldn't do anything for me. Tech really doesn't interest me and there are compromises I don't like with them, and other vehicles.

@Tescam14

23 күн бұрын

You timed it well

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

@@oldbloke204 My father not long ago had his license revoked for poor eyesight. He went for a number of months without it as he went through the process of fighting the system and eventually gaining a limited license. He can drive only in daylight hours and no further than 20kms. He was extremely despondent in those months without a license. It was very visible. His daily routine turned upside down. He was unable to go fishing. EVs, and FSD in particular, will be huge for people who are handicapped in whatever manner, or unable to drive out of fear, lack of confidence, or physical and mental reasons. But FSD will allow them to live normal lives and still get around. I too am old, but I can see the amazing benefits that EVs will bring to various people. What if you have some sort of ailment that limits your ability to drive, or prevents it altogether? Could be a back issue. Surely you would welcome a car you just hop into and it takes you where you want or need to go

I think it's awesome too

I purchased a M3 LR and took delivery around 5 weeks ago. If I took delivery now, I would have saved 10k. Shit happens. Life goes on.

I think seal still have the advantage.. coz feel very weird without stalk. Me kind of like the button

Will Juniper have a price hike? I want a model Y but will wait for Juniper.

@MitchPhillips

20 күн бұрын

Wondering the same thing.

I would like to see BYD cars price drop in OZ as its more superior.

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

More superior on what metrics?

@JAM-fm8lt

23 күн бұрын

​@@zoransarin5411on cheapo metrics.

@jeremyheung6582

22 күн бұрын

they will,that's what competition is

We bought our model 3 15 months ago and we knew they would get cheaper. Actually we reasoned that teslas policy is good for people to get more evs cheaper. Looks like the plan is working as they become more than competitive it makes them more mainstream

Recommend the Model 3 in Australia. Amazing car. Not that small compared to Model Y anyway

I wish they would do a back flip on cancelling the Model-S Plaid for RHD markets. My P100D has been great and I did want to replace it with a Plaid until they cancelled it, not sure what I'd buy instead now (no interest in a 3 or Y). For anyone complaining about the price changes, you need to look into what Telsa did to the Performance S & X back in 2019, they dropped the price overnight by $100,000 in Taiwan, yes $100,000 !! Tesla RRP and Stocks are and will always be a roller coaster ride.

When will Tedla cut NZ's prices too?

If it weren’t for the potential of FSD, the RAV4 would suit my needs quite well.

I do agree that technology prices/costs go down as all evolves. However there is a special spice to Tesla's price drops, they are a bit nasty and don't quite fall in the tech-evolving scenario. I don't own a Tesla, but I do believe that Tesla is screwing up a lot of people. Check out what they did to the Model S Plaid in the US, or what they are doing with the Cybertruck. Heck, even Starlink, one day you are paying 1k for equipment, next day they give it away.

love your Chanel but it really does matter resale value is the most important part when purchasing a car and when your car is not even worth half of what u bought it for not even a year later it really really matters

With the discount, that would be 29k € here in France for a model Y.

Are you comparing a base Model Y with a fully loaded Rav4?

Been like that for years in Iceland. Note that EVs are not subsidized here any more.

Hi Sam , please make a video on the cost of replacing battery for Tesla model 3 and model y, once the warranty is over. Kia EV 3 is also launched yesterday which has ~600 kms range. Looks Tesla is fearing due to competition,which is becoming fierce.

@duncanl6552

21 күн бұрын

No one knows the cost because hardly anyone has had to replace a battery yet. Theres a lot of false narrative around ev battery life from competitors of evs. Truth is they will last longer than an ICE engine

@ReliableInfosystems

20 күн бұрын

@@duncanl6552 hmm. What about if vehicle got in accident as they are made by die casting , how long to wait till you get a replacement. Finally insurance rates are also high . Factor all those before buying.

@duncanl6552

20 күн бұрын

How long do you have to wait for a new ICE engine if you crash your car and the engine is damaged? I guess you wont know until these things happen. Until you choose the repairer and make a choice on which insurance provider you go with. Same questions you would have with any other car you choose to buy

@ReliableInfosystems

20 күн бұрын

@@duncanl6552 ICE cars are much easier to repair due to larger network of repair technicians and dealers. Do you have any EV repair shops in your area ?. Most of the EVs outside of US are coming from China. Here in North America average cost replace EV batteries ranges ~20k to 25k. EVs are still pretty expensive and have to come closer to ~25k range with >600 kms range to fully compete with, otherwise why an average person should waste his hard earned money to buy expensive EV then spend >50% of vehicle price again to change batteries once the warranty is over. Driver also has to deal with range anxiety while driving on longer trips. EVs perform very badly in cold weather like Canada. Electric vehicles sales are going down day by day due to several points mentioned above. World is not ready for EVs yet. It will take time to build good charging infrastructure, better batteries , better EV technologies with reduced prices to gain major market share. Hybrid vehicles are way to go till then.

The huge drop in Tesla prices from December 2022 to January 2023 was too much over too little time for me to ever trust Tesla to be looking out for its customers. They threatened to cancel my order and keep my deposit if I didn't take delivery in December instead of April when it was supposed to be deluvered. They said there would be no price drop, then it dropped $16,500 USD.

Shifting my portfolio - heavy on BTC and Revux, with a sprinkle of DOT and ADA.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

But have considered the price of fish?

We have suffered the same price reductions on computers for decades. Nothing new.

you always do your best to defend Tesla's actions

@RandyP-jr1ek

23 күн бұрын

And what’s not to like about a price reduction? I can see if you complained about styling or some other issue, but really?

@marwanleb

23 күн бұрын

@@RandyP-jr1ek It is great but let's credit Chinese EVs that force others to reduce their price to stay competitors, Tesla never decreased before.

@RandyP-jr1ek

22 күн бұрын

@@marwanleb You are right, but back in 2019 they didn’t have real competition - which (if free and fair) almost always reduces prices. What’s interesting is that due to the U.S. 100% tariff imposed on Chinese EVs, Tesla has a virtual lock on the EV market here. With that lock they should be doing everything in their power to produce a truly affordable EV - which I believe they could accomplish. Forget about self driving for the moment, here, and concentrate on what people really want; as they’ve been remarkably successful with EVs so far…..

The tv thing is hilarious. My dad has a really nice big Sony Bravia at his home, in the box. It's just there as a spare incase one of the tv's break at their home. :) hahaha. Just a spare!

@Aria432

21 күн бұрын

How stupid

Sam, can you be more specific if you're talking about the RAV4 PHEV or the RAV4 HEV. Toyota does everything they can to blur the lines and I know people who got fooled.

Is it expensive to ship to Australia from China? Or has that been the narrative historically? It would be interesting ti know exactly how much it costs.

When Tesla first started to produce in volume in California they stated their target was BMW and were stunned to see most were trading in their Honda Accords and Toyota Camrys instead for a Tesla Model 3....meanwhile BMW sales continue to surge. This sales trend with the Model Y has basically continued with Honda CRV and Toyota Rav4 impacted not BMW, Mercedes-Benz etc. not that Honda and Toyota haven't upped their game big time but especially Toyota in North America is very much struggling this Year 2024 which is unheard of for Toyota in North America. Toyota Dealers are very unpopular here in the USA as they expect the customer to come to them not vice versa so no one in the USA is complaining about this change but most in North America still have not even heard of Tesla. That is quickly changing because of Cybertruck however and not any other Tesla product. Cybertruck prices are also plunging in the USA now as well in fact oil prices are starting to plunge in the USA now which is very unusual this time of Year here as this is our Summer in North America and Summer in the USA anyways can be really really hot and humid paeticularly in Texas and Florida.

I think you are right to encourage people to get the Tesla Model Model Y or Model 3 at the sale price if you are a price sensitive consumer. Any Tesla is better than none. The older Tesla's get OTA updates so they still get better with time. I am also willing to bet that the Tesla will have resale value after five years if not 10...

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

You would hope so

The Tesla Model Y SUV does not really compete with the RAV4. The RAV4 has over 8" of ground clearance and can be driven on back roads without too much worry if you are careful. The Model Y is an SUV in name only. It is an city car with just over 6" of ground clearance. This is not a vehicle you can take on a back country road. Just imagine how you would feel if you drove a Model Y down a Model Y down a dirt road and banged the battery pack on a rock. That $70 EV just became a write off...

Can you explain the price comparison of the Corolla and RAV4. When I look up these they are still quite a bit less than the Model 3 & Y. Maybe the RAV4 with all extras is comparable at $54,510 driveway.

@user-yh6xf3wl1h

23 күн бұрын

That's normal on here, slant everything to make tesla look better. Base model Y compared to top spec Rav4. Base Rav4 is 10k cheaper.

@zoransarin5411

23 күн бұрын

@@user-yh6xf3wl1h Yes. But which version do company fleets favour? Because that is the market he was referencing. I would suggest it is the RAV4 hybrid, which is $10k more expensive. There are currently 76 NEW RAV4's listed on Carsales. They range between $45k and $65k. The Model Y sits right in the middle. Companies looking at whole of life costs and not just capital cost. That is why they favour the hybrid as they look at upfront cost, ongoing costs and resale. Up specced models tend to hold their value better than base models, which is why companies tend to go with them.

@user-yh6xf3wl1h

23 күн бұрын

Fleets normally buy the cheapest as the depreciation is less.

@chrispeters9693

23 күн бұрын

@@zoransarin5411 Hi I wonder how high spec Viking is talking for Toyota. I went onto the Toyota site(NSW)and a Toyota RAV4 GXL auto AWD 2.5 L hybrid is $54,072 in frosted white with all on-roads. The standard Tesla Model Y is $60, 842 onroad delivered. Strangely the Model 3 with all onroads is $59,792. (Only $1050 less for a car with much lower carrying capacity.) The onroads are $427 more in Victoria. So I think he is comparing the highest spec Toyota. However , the model Y is clearly the better deal due to fuel/maintenance saving.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

@@user-yh6xf3wl1h Wrong

The saga of the EV1 was a pivot point. It just took a few years and everybody could join. Only one did.

Model Y performance.. 35% depreciation in 12mths ($37-$38K ) .. not like losing $300 bucks on a TV. …new in March 2023 $107K on road.. now private sale lucky to get $70K… carsales buy price $56-$59K which is closer to 45% depreciation in around 12mths … shocking …. Ford Ranger Raptor, petrol guzzling beast 12mth depreciation around 10-15%

Being in NZ I hope the 3 and Y get cut here. The Kia in NZ is actually more for the basic car than the Y so its not competitive even now. The BYD seal is only $1k cheaper at the old price, if Tesla cuts the model3 will be cheaper for a way better car.

The new redesigned Model 3 is not called "the high land" people have just been saying that but Tesla never made that an official name for the new redesigned Model 3.😢

There is absolutely no reason for me to trade in my 2021 Model 3, not for another Tesla either , not interested in further massive depreciation and there isn't much of an upgrade from 2021.

Tesla is just being upfront and ppl are ignoring the unseen discounts dealers give to shift cars.

That’s only £19200 , under 1/2 price compared to U.K. price of £44.000

huge improvement on looks? its the same ... the only way I can tell the new 3 is fog lamps

In the US Tesla model Y is cheaper than Toyota RAV4 hybrid, too. And the model 3 Highland is priced just a little bit higher than Toyota Camry hybrid. EV will be cheaper and better in the short period of time.

Um because they have backlog of them and they are not selling .....

Leasing is the way to go, let the leasing company deal with the depreciation.

@superbored7776

21 күн бұрын

But at the end of lease, there is a balloon. The car value could be lower than the balloon and thats an issue

I drive my cars till they are almost deed the only sum that matters is how many $ per year your electric car pays for its self through fuel savings so where is the problem?

@The Electric Viking, just received my Cybertruck finalize email. Missouri location

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

I'm sorry for you

Why Tesla sold in us are much expensive then in other country such Australia?

I just hope Australia doesn't cave into the US pressure to also put tariffs on Chinese EVs.

To me the shape of Model Y looks "proud". I don't know why i feel that!

Its a really bad news for Toyota but even also for Tesla. Their profit % 10% 5% are small compared to Hyundai 10.4%.

Tesla is killing it

Sam, your comment about open borders (tariff free):is off base. AU has no auto industry to protect, no jobs to protect and hence no politics to prevent cars from flooding in…. I agree that Chinese competition is good for Euro and American auto companies in the long run but who can agree to getting wiped out in the near term???? Who? Sadly though, here in America our protected industries have generally not become competitive but they did gouge customers… 😢😢😢😢

Are you not fed up faceplanting and then saying you meant it!

Can you imagine what would happen to the Australian car market if the Shanghai plan was producing righthand drives Tesla Model 2 EVs for $20k USD? All the automakers would have freak out...

Interesting spin, so Tesla absolutely hasn’t reduced prices *significantly* this year to maintain market share and dominance or potentially flagging sales??? Ok then.

nice

The best back country SUV EV is likely the Rivian R1S. But again if you bang the battery pack on a rock you have just written off the EV.

We don’t earn US dollars in Australia, our dollar isn’t as strong as the US dollar, and our mean income is less compared to the US. Those factors taken into account, plus no subsidies apply, make electric cars way more expensive for Australians … even though they may look “cheaper”

@aussie405

23 күн бұрын

Depends where you are. WA Govt has $3500 rebate on 100% emissions free vehicles.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

@@aussie405 Yes, by robbing the taxpayer to provide subsidies the table is titled in favour of BEVs

@Fred-Jai

22 күн бұрын

Its not just cars! In almost every facet of life it's more expensive. On the topic of electric cars, the price for electricity is on average in 66% cheaper in the US than it is in Australia. It's a mess

@aussie405

22 күн бұрын

Be glad you are unlikely to end up bankrupt in Australia because of a medical problem. (Edited to add) And life expectancy is four years higher.

@Fred-Jai

20 күн бұрын

@@aussie405 Interesting fact, life expectancy numbers you're probably talking about are for people born today, not people born say 30 years ago. Since 1990 its gone up 8 years.

TotaL Dominace when it comes to EVs, 👑 and Rightfully So. 💪🏼

@icosthop9998

25 күн бұрын

1st to give a thumbs up 👍 And 1st to be 1st 🤗 🥇

@T0ny75

23 күн бұрын

Let’s go 🇦🇺 🎉

Front end of the model Y is terrible. Once they fix that they are on a winner.

TFL compared a $100,000 Tesla Cybertruck with a 30-year old Dodge Ram Cummins truck and the old truck toyed with the Cybertruck - dragged it around at will. The Cybertruck could only tow a load 80 miles. The unmodified diesel truck could tow across Texas. When recharged at a public charger the Cybertruck cost more than refueling the old diesel truck. Because of videos like that prices of old trucks are going up and up. If drag racing is for you, get the Cybertruck. If you need a truck, get a truck. If EVs are pushed, parts of America will look like Havana Cuba - pre-2006 models. Companies in Taiwan produce high quality body panels for popular older vehicles. We can keep them forever. I'm looking at 20-year old RAV4s - those can be forever cars that are easy to maintain.

Australia no longer has a domestic auto industry to protect. Australia had the first Toyota factory built outside of Japan but the Australian auto industry was wiped out by cheap imports from South East Asia because Aussie workers are not prepared to work for wages as low as Thai or Chinese workers. Tesla price cuts will hit profit margins which have aleady fallen by over 50%

If you buy any new car then it losses 30% or its value as soon as you leave the dealership. ICE cars are not assets they're liabilities: high running costs, complex and fragile analog product.

If the US lowered its model 3 or Y anymore, I might be able to convince my wife to let me buy a 4th Tesla in the past year.

@fanbelt9926

23 күн бұрын

Am I reading your post correctly. You’re buying a fourth Tesla in just 12 months. So do they only last 3 months then you get another one. I think I’m misreading your post.

@bencarter2308

23 күн бұрын

I have 2 kids and a wife. 1 for each of us. lol. I commute about 100 Km / 60 miles each way to work too. Best commute car in the world.

Slashing price’s a must to stay alive!

WIth time value of money. This MY reduction is on par with the US version with 0.99% financing.

Can Tesla sell a model 3 for $37k in America too?😮

Sadly Tesla Model Y is not that cheap in NZ - $65,900. But RAV4 Hybrids start at $48,790.

@regisgilben8488

23 күн бұрын

For some reason the M3P is sharply priced in NZ vs AU, about $5K less based on the exchange rate

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

And the RAV4 hybrid is a vastly better vehicle

Looking forward to more clean air in this country from more people driving clean cars

I still want HUD

Analogy with flat screen tv, perfect🇦🇺👍🏳️‍🌈

Tesla need to make an SUV style car where the back seats can fold down for camping fishing etc.

@14lou

22 күн бұрын

No point in that until the range greatly improves.

People who bought those big chunky cell phones when they first came out for the price of a block of land on the outskirts of Australian capital cities should probably feel very f overed by Motorola/Nokia now that they can get 500 far superior brand new iPhones for the selling price of that same block of land…

Lucky Aussies.🎉

People always whine and winge if they miss a sale. But they have to take responsibility for their own impatience. You have to know that everything goes on sale at sometime so you need to plan your purchases accordingly. Vehicle almost always go on sale before a major update so plan accordingly. This is not "rocket science...

Tesla discounting is all that's left in the process of selling the the OLD fast fading brand. It's an energy company now........and now it's an AI company...... because Volvo is level 4 autonomy already whilst tesla talks about it......... annually. It's also a robotics company now ......like the others. How does tesla justify its supreme share price still ???.

Tesla - love the car but please stop factoring in fuel savings into the price. Just tell me the drive away only which by the way is just over 60k AUD which is 40k US.