Traditionally the US and UK have only ever shared nuclear submarine technology with each other and it's an arrangement of absolute trust which has existed for over 60 years. Australia being admitted into that fold is an opportunity that should not to be missed.

I'm an American and I'm excited for the Aussies!

@matthewwolff3729

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@Cheds goodbye bigot! Don't count us out yet.

@craptobotfanboy4958

Жыл бұрын

MURICA

@knightstemplar8647

Жыл бұрын

So are the Chinese

@matthewwolff3729

Жыл бұрын

@@knightstemplar8647 How so? Please Expand?

@knightstemplar8647

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewwolff3729 they know it will take at least 10 years for these subs to sail the high seas, do you really think the Chinese are going to wait, if you think that, then you need to reevaluate.

Considering the scale of our coastline and dependence upon imports, common sense would suggest that we need a much bigger naval presence and the domestic infrastructure to support it. Our merchant navy also needs increasing in size so that we're not as dependent upon foreign-owned carriers for international trade.

@deanhall6045

Жыл бұрын

Well said, thirty years ago.

@knightstemplar8647

Жыл бұрын

Well I'm sure we can count on the LGBQT etc to volunteer

The cost is over several decades, but the media wanting a bad reaction from the public to report on, present it as if it is a full cost up front today proposition. The question isn’t can we afford this capability, it’s can we afford not to have it? The answer is clearly no, we most certainly need this capability.

@pabis6817

Жыл бұрын

@Cheds joined KZread 9 months ago and makes only post in line with the government in Beijing ? Kinda sus

Welcome to the nuclear age, Australia.

The problem with closed minded people is, their mouths are always open.

It's like a rabbit fighting a T. Rex.

@IsraelMilitaryChannel

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean? Quality weapons beats quantity. How in the world did tiny island Japan beat T-Rex then? transformed into Godzilla?

I doubt this guy knows what he is talking about in another Sky News Item he claimed we would have 3 boats in service by 2033 with an option on another 2 boats. What is it Professor Dean, 2033 with 3 in service or 2040 with how many????

@deanhall6045

Жыл бұрын

Spot on.

Thales and bae systems have been playing the smart game building or subs we don't need 3 coming on line 3 after 3 then the shipyard is done the experience workers go elsewhere. That is why even though with a small investment in the two sub contractors they only build one of each at anytime to keep the workforce and costs down and being able to improve each sub. It's the same way that they have kept British warships being built and are able to upscale very fast if needed it's quite good and i used to hate it but common sense.

Well done Australia 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇸👍

@999score

Жыл бұрын

Well done 🇺🇸 sell obsolete sub to morron.. Well done 🇬🇧 keep kangaroo bending to his majesty 👏 👍

Poseidon!

@jwadaow

Жыл бұрын

Poseidon is a strategic weapon. Such weapons can never be used.

and the Army needs all that has been promised to them as well

Not even close. Russia’s Poseidon takes that gong and the next two places as well.

@jonedwards5953

Жыл бұрын

What gong?

@jwadaow

Жыл бұрын

Poseidon is a strategic weapon. Such weapons can never be used. That would cause armageddon.

life cycle 25 years and 4 to be built you will have no more 2 at most in fleet perhaps 1 at sea

You need to show China...oz don't play games !!

These subs will be piloted by mostly chinese aussies by the time they get delivered 😂😂😂😂

YOU AUSSIES MUST WAKE UP! STOP THAT MASSIVE BUZZING IN THE WEEKENDS.

and what are the chances the final price will be 968 billion

@petermclaren2665

Жыл бұрын

Looking at the cost overruns of the F35 etc. I'd say the cost will probably be 60% higher

@Nathan-ry3yu

Жыл бұрын

You're over exaggerated it a bit there don't think. But yes there maybe some blow out cost on the new design. Always is

@larrym12

Жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-ry3yu History repeats the monumental stuff up of the Collins class subs and when Australia has never built a sub on time or on budget

A nuclear submarine without nuclear weapons is like an aircraft carrier without fighter jets. I mean, why should I be afraid of you?

@robertfonovic3551

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@BeerGutGuy

Жыл бұрын

because you can lay sea mines off the Chinese coast preventing their aircraft carriers from leaving......or destroy their optical fibre cable, or........lob tomahawks

@jonedwards5953

Жыл бұрын

​@@BeerGutGuy or have unlimited endurance around strategic areas or shadow a task force indefinitely and sink them with a few salvos... what a stupid comment

@edschultheis9537

Жыл бұрын

The newest US nuclear powered submarines can run 33 - 40+ years without requiring refueling. This helps them remain virtually undetected during their entire mission because they only have to come to the ocean surface for occasional supplies and perhaps emergency situations. Diesel powered submarines are often vulnerable because, by comparison to the nuclear powered subs, they have to surface quite often, which reveals their postion and makes them vulnerable to attack. The battles that Australia would have with enemies like China will require conventional weapons, not nuclear weapons. The nuclear powered subs (of the US) that fire nuclear weapons are really last resort weapons. If Australia was helping with the defense of Taiwan in a potential battle with China, we will not be lobbing nuclear weapons back and forth. We will be using conventional weapons, conventional torpedos, etc. I don't think that it would make any sense to supply the Australian Navy with submarines carrying nuclear weapons. Ed Schultheis, PE Professional mechanical engineer and manufacturing consultant for 35 years Washington state, USA

@julianpetkov8320

Жыл бұрын

AUKUS is intended for Pirate Blockades against small South East Asian Countries, in the event they decide to have normal relations with China. It is a retarded idea. #ButButButWeAreNotEmpireAnyMore

With that amount of money, it would have been better to build 50 destroyers which cost much cheaper

@MrWhitmen1981

Жыл бұрын

Mass drone scatter technology could find them in hours. Israel has no navy experience and it shows.

@jwadaow

Жыл бұрын

No?!

@IsraelMilitaryChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@MrWhitmen1981 Israel have no navy technology? Israel have one of the best naval electronic warfare systems in the world. Mass drone technology? Watch my videos how Israel deals with them easily🤦‍♂

@IsraelMilitaryChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@jwadaow Yes

@-_-dontcare-_-

Жыл бұрын

How have you come to the conclusion that it’s cheaper? Using the type 45 destroyer as an example, that’s 1billion GBP per unit which, for 50 units, is 90billion AUD. There would need to be greater investment in port facilities to handle 50 destroyers vs 8 nuclear subs. Then they would need to increase the size of the navy to crew these vessels as there is no point in having 50 if only a handful can be used at once. People also need to be employed and trained to maintain these 50 vessels. Then greater investment would be needed in shipyards to manufacture them at a quicker rate as well as more investment in dry docks so the ships can be refitted and maintained efficiently. It’s ludicrous that you think buying 50 destroyers would be cheaper.

Massive waste of money

Reportedly the new subs won't have nuclear capabilities. Isn't that like buying a firearm and not having any ammunition?

Who does the government think we are going to fight? A few of submarines will only last a few days in a real war, the buffoons 🙄

@deanhall6045

Жыл бұрын

@Fruit salad yes, very good fruit salad indeed.

@jonedwards5953

Жыл бұрын

I don't think you understand how naval warfare, especially submarine warfare works

@jarmojauhiainen7300

Жыл бұрын

not so bud

All Australia really needs for defence is a capable coast guard and air force

@Nathan-ry3yu

Жыл бұрын

No it needs a capable navy airforce and army to defend. Don't play general if you don't have a clue on what you're talking about

@rodaust1069

Жыл бұрын

Yeah good one bot.

@98091238

Жыл бұрын

@@rodaust1069 You're right... let's be America's Ukraine of the South-West Pacific and pick a fight with a nuclear power in China

If Australia was in an armed conflict with China there would be no need to protect our "trade". As just about every thing we use these days comes from China, ships bring goods to Australia would near disappear immediately.

Well played by the Americans…getting the Australian people to help pay for repairs to Americas crumbling and troubled ship/sub building yards and capability. A point that is painfully missed in Australian media coverage on this but being boasted by American legislators and representatives on US telly. Doesn’t take a submarine scientist to calculate we should be getting 100x the subs for the money - Australian expat in America.

Australia is no match against china. But some say to fulfill the obligation to strategic allies. Primarily the US.

@petermclaren2665

Жыл бұрын

Yes. there are Chinese cities with larger populations than the whole of Australia.

@julianpetkov8320

Жыл бұрын

AUKUS is intended for Pirate Blockades against small South East Asian Countries, in the event they decide to have normal relations with China. It is a retarded idea. #ButButButWeAreNotEmpireAnyMore

@Nathan-ry3yu

Жыл бұрын

Population or army size don't mean better. Australia been outnumbered in every battle throughout both worlds wars yet won battles that larger countries couldn't pull off. Won Battle Pozieres in France ww1 Battle of Beersheba ww1 Battle of Fromelles ww1 Battles of Bullecourt ww1 Battle of Messines ww1 Third Battle of Ypres ww1 Lost in retreat battle of Gallipoli ww1 WW2 Won Battle of Britain Australia contributed 6000 pilots. Ww2 Battle of Crete ww2 won Battle for Greece ww2 won Battle of Tobruk ww2 won In the pacific won and in North African campaign 9 Battle of 42nd Street A Admiralty Islands campaign Air raids on Hong Kong Allied logistics in the Kokoda Track campaign Battle of Ambon Battle of Arawe B Battle of Balikpapan (1945) Battle of Bardia Battle of Kota Bharu Battle of Beaufort (1945) Battle of Beda Fomm Battle of Beirut (1941) Battle of Biak Black Friday (1945) Battle of Bobdubi Operation Brevity Operation Brevity order of battle Invasion of Buka and Bougainville Battle of Bukit Timah Invasion of Buna-Gona Battle of Buna-Gona C Battle of Cape Gloucester Operation Cartwheel Chaforce Operation Cobra (Timor) Operation Compass Operation Copper Battle of the Corinth Canal Battle of Crete D Battle of Damour Bombing of Darwin Raid on Darwin (2 May 1943) Battle of Driniumor River Battle of Dumpu E First Battle of El Alamein Second Battle of El Alamein Second Battle of El Alamein order of battle Landing on Emirau First Battle of Eora Creek-Templeton's Crossing Second Battle of Eora Creek-Templeton's Crossing F Battle of Finschhafen G Battle of Gemas Siege of Giarabub Battle of Goodenough Island German invasion of Greece Guadalcanal campaign H Raid on Heath's Farm Battle of Heraklion Battle of the Hongorai River I Battle of Ioribaiwa Anglo-Soviet invasion of Iran Battle of Isurava Italian invasion of British Somaliland J Landing at Jacquinot Bay Battle of Java (1942) Battle of Jezzine (1941) Battle of John's Knoll-Trevor's Ridge K Battle of Kaiapit Kokoda Track campaign Battle of Kokoda Battle of Kranji L Battle of Lababia Ridge Battle of Labuan Landing at Lae Operation Lagarto Battle of Leuwiliang Invasion of Lingayen Gulf Battle of the Litani River Landing on Long Island M Battle of Madang Malayan campaign Siege of Malta (World War II) Battle of Merdjayoun Battle of Milne Bay Battle of Mission Ridge-Brigade Hill Operation Montclair Battle of Morotai Battle of Mount Tambu Battle of Muar Battle of Mubo Raid on Mubo (1942) N Landing at Nadzab Landing at Nassau Bay New Georgia campaign Battle of Noemfoor Battle of North Borneo North Western Area Campaign O Battle of Oivi-Gorari Battle of Okinawa Battle of Olympus (1941) Operation Opossum P Battle of Palembang Battle of Pearl Ridge Battle of The Pimple Battle of Port Moresby Battle of Porton Plantation Operation Python (1943-1944) R Bombing of Rabaul (1942) Neutralisation of Rabaul Battle of Rabaul (1942) Bombing of Rabaul (November 1943) Battle of Ratsua Battle of Rethymno Operation Rimau Battle of Roosevelt Ridge S Landing at Saidor Raid on Salamaua (1942) Battle of Sattelberg Landing at Scarlet Beach Operation Semut Battle of Shaggy Ridge Battle of Sidon (1941) Battle of Talasea Battle of Tarakan (1945) Battle of Tempe Gorge Battle of the Tenaru Battle of Thermopylae (1941) Battle of Timor Battle of Timor order of battle Siege of Tobruk Battle of Tsimba Ridge Battle of Tulagi and Gavutu-Tanambogo Invasion of Tulagi (May 1942) Twin Pimples raid V Battle of Vevi (1941) W Battle of Wide Bay-Open Bay Battle of Wareo Battle of Wau Western New Guinea campaign Bombing of Wewak Operation Whiting Lost Battle for Singapore ww2 Australia 8th division captured by Japan ww2 Korea war campaign 700 Australian defeated 10.000 Chinese trying to take Seoul in the battle of Kapyon 1953. Vietnam war Australia defeated outnumbering north viet con forces in the battle of long tang. Indonesia and Malaysia war early 1960s Australia defeated Indonesia while been outnumbered 10 to 1. America served under Australia general John Monash during ww1 and fought side by side Australia in both world wars. During ww1 Australia had captured a third of the enamy and its guns. While Russia was defeated and backed out of the war. So you either have bad history knowledge. Or just another ignorant migrant that don't know shit about Australia and our capabilities. So why don't you shut your mouth ha.

@tynkirbell599

Жыл бұрын

​@@Nathan-ry3yu excellent response 👏

@Nathan-ry3yu

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@@tynkirbell599 Thanks mate.

Why go nuclear submarines? I would opt to go with Space Nuclear hypersonic missiles like the Chinese. Imagine China start selling Space Nuclear Hypersonic Missiles like the one they tested last year circling around the Earth before vertically diving down. Hell, imagine every country will want at least 10-20 of their own. It's coming.

how many Hunter Class Frigates, Hobart Class Destroyers and Canberra class LHDs would 368 Billion get us....? I would say that money is better spent there

lol rubbish

Millions of Aborigines live in poverty and jobless and staying in the country and outback

@knightstemplar8647

Жыл бұрын

There is 800,000 Aborigines in Australia of those 800,000 most of them are not full blooded indigenous. You can be 1/8th aboriginal 7/8ths white but they claim to be aboriginal for the benefits of Gov. handouts, the average IQ is 62 equal to a 7year old child, it is fact look up the IQ chart of different races you will be astounded.

@goodputin4324

Жыл бұрын

@@knightstemplar8647 exactly. Better help them, not buy useless subs

Look in the water is it 3 AUKUS submarines. More powerful than a locomotive able to sink vessels in a single strike and who disguised as our protector, is 3 submarines in 10 15 or is it 20 years time, as Carol King sang it's too late baby, it's too late.

Baaahaahahaaa so was the Collins until they all sank. What a bloody joke.

@jonedwards5953

Жыл бұрын

No Collins have sunk, what are you talking about?

@rodaust1069

Жыл бұрын

Get your facts straight bot.

@deanhall6045

Жыл бұрын

@@jonedwards5953 not literally. They are full of problems and to call them the most capable sub in commission in the world is just as much a stretch as saying they all sank. Argue if you like, I work on them. Cheers.

@deanhall6045

Жыл бұрын

@@rodaust1069 first time was censored, I'll try again. Drop dead dick head. No swearing, no nefarious intent, just letting you know what I would like to happen. Cheers.

@jwadaow

Жыл бұрын

@@deanhall6045 Well you could give details. Submarines are designed to sink.

This guy is a goof