I don't doubt there maybe and i stress maybe benefits to the dragon cable, but $30,700AUD for a single 2m cable is just plain criminal.

@matthewdonohue7745

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with making something higher end for those with the means?

@Tinez87

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with it if you enjoy being ripped off, the mark up on these will be insane I can tell you that much.

@matthewdonohue7745

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tinez87 it doesn't matter the markup, some companies can make things more or less profitable than their competitors. What matters is the perceived "value". This doesn't have perceived value to you, but it certainly does to enough buyers. Is there diminishing returns in this tier, absolutely, but you begin to see diminishing returns when you buy anything more expensive than lamp wire. So the buyer has to ask is it worth it? Value is in the eye of the beholder.

@InnovationStudiosLtd

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewdonohue7745 Translation: you're insecure about your purchases and need to be coddled and reinforced that you made the right decision when you probably can't discern a nut from a screw. Fact is there are zero audible differences between a decent 12awg ofc stranded wire and these joke of an industry snake oil fraud that preys upon those who need a shinier piece of Chinese plastic than others who know value to performance ratio is at the forefront for sonic clarity. Just know that everyone is laughing at you not with you.

@matthewdonohue7745

2 жыл бұрын

@@InnovationStudiosLtd Let me tell you how insecure I am. My name is my KZread channel. My name is Matthew Donohue, and I live in West Linn, Oregon. I have zero reservations behind my purchases. Try again bro. I don't hide behind anything. Take a flight to Oregon, and I'll host you. You will hear the difference. You will have coffee with me, we will listen to music, watch some scenes, and you will be enlightened.

Very interesting Terry. The musical background, echo, accompaniment was so much more audible on the last demo. Dang. I haven't got that money.

I am sure my combined three prong 12 gauge power ( about 7 gauge) extension cable (stranded copper cable) sounds as good as their most expensive cable if they dire to do a blind test.

Thanks Terry for your videos. You do a great work

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

thank you I am only just getting started for the Munich show :) so much more to come all takes me time :)

@dmitriy2501

5 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem what speakers impressed you the most?

I bet the lower resistance just raises the volume by a tiny but perceivable bit and people think it's increased audio quality. Louder always works.

@allansh828

2 жыл бұрын

I kid you not, I've heard USB cable sounds louder

@raymondegers6664

2 жыл бұрын

Ding ding ding you got it!

Terry, thanks for covering this presentation, I enjoyed it and the knee-jerk reactions are entertaining as well.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha thanks

I love watching videos like this because they can be replayed endlessly for those who didn't notice all the nonsense being said in an attempt to sell this snake oil on first listen!

@PursuitPerfectSystem

Жыл бұрын

To be fair you cant buy anything at this event so I dont think that was the intention

@crodoc69

Жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem It was a promo for later purchases. This guy from Audioquest is quite known for selling snake oil.

@CyrilleBoucanogh

6 ай бұрын

let "all those" also not have noticed all the nonsense being commented...

@crodoc69

6 ай бұрын

@@CyrilleBoucanogh Nothing smarter to add?

@CyrilleBoucanogh

6 ай бұрын

​ @crodoc69 the level of competence of your comment is so high that nothing can even come close. But as a great specialist in Electric conductance and Termodynamics your point of view is crucially essential.

Anyone who is buying into this should do more research into the topic. Audible differences are possible, in measurements, the Audioquest cables measure WORSE causing MORE distortion. This test has been shown multiple times by different people and versus generic cheaper cables. Distortion however can sound BETTER to some people, that's why people use tube amps that also add some distortion. Other audible effects include a difference in volume. With less resistance, there is more volume according to measures of similar cables with different thicknesses. Higher volume can be perceived as "clearer" and "more transparent". Testing the frequency ranges on the generic versus AudioQuest cables also does NOT show ANY DIFFERENCE. Anyone claiming a difference in frequency response is either hearing added distortion, added/lowered volume, or the placebo effect. The things they are claiming such as lower distortion have been PROVEN TO BE FALSE! You cannot get all subjective and rebuttal with "but I heard it", no, it's an objectively measurable claim and it's false. End of story in regards to distortion. Now if you like the cable sound more because of the added distortion and you aren't willing to go a higher AWG of a different cable for the slightly louder volume level than to each their own, spend more than a good pair of speakers on a cable.

Do the cables come with a jar of snake oil for dipping the ends in. I heard it creates a much more chocolatey mid-range...

Emperors new clothes, springs to mind !

Anybody who doesn‘t hear a difference (even via KZread) can relax and stay with whatever speakercable he/she has 😉😎

@yippie6862

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. Instead, many seem to get angry that others hear a difference. :)

@dmitriy2501

5 жыл бұрын

Anybody doesn't hear a difference in a double-blind experiment... Oh wait, it's literally anybody.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

@@dmitriy2501 for a blind test to be meaningful for something like this you need to only ever listen to your hifi system blind otherwis it's a folly exercise think about it

@antoniobolgnameyerwe3844

5 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem again in English, please?

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

joerglemann I always find it so sad that people who are attached to this hobby of technology and how it works have no idea - and are proud of it. All those who are convinced that there are sound differences between the countless cables on the market (importers, testers, dealers and end users) should compare blinded. The results are already 100% certain. But hardly anyone will be carried away, especially not one of the beneficiaries of this big HiFi lie. Finally, a good piece of advice: instead of investing in expensive cables, invest in room acoustics, because they can't be good enough. A square meter of insulation material positioned in the right place in the listening room certainly brings more sound improvement than the exchange of standard cables to the most expensive ones you can buy.

What is the first cable start at 23:40 ?

I have rocket 88 but looking to go with siltech 550L!

@Abrikosmanden

5 жыл бұрын

Or you could buy better speakers and get an improvement that is not just in your imagination ...

@chriss881000

3 жыл бұрын

@@Abrikosmanden so f true. I got the rocket 31, that makes me so much smarter than the rocket 88 dude. Bec its a f waste

Why isn’t William Shatner on the enterprise!!

Timestamps: Monster: 20:06 AQ Wild: 23:19 AQ William: 26:50 AQ Dragon: 30:30

It can be solid, stranded, copper, oxygen free copper, silver, etc.--or even "magic" wire--as long as the resistance is kept to be less than 5% of the speaker impedance. There is no listening difference as long as the wire is of adequate size. Remember that a nominal impedance value is not always accurate because most systems vary with frequency. A speaker that is rated by the manufacturer as 4 ohms may not be 4 ohms at all frequencies. It can wander above or below this value and is unique for different systems. If you have doubts about your system impedance, it's best to contact the manufacturer concerning the lowest impedance of the system that you plan to use and select a connecting wire based on the lowest impedance value. It's not easy to set up a similar wire listening test. Very few people are able to make speaker impedance measurements or wire resistance measurements down to 0.1 ohms. Also knowledge of the speaker impedance over the entire frequency range is a very important factor in an A-B listening test. In some listening tests, this can cause a difference in sound that could result in false conclusions because the wire is not heavy enough. Suppose a speaker is used that has an advertised impedance of 8-ohms but the impedance actually drops to 4 or 5 ohms at one or several frequencies. Suppose further that wire A used in the test is heavy enough for an 8-ohm speaker but not for a 4-ohm speaker. When making a comparison test with a heavier wire B, differences can then be heard. Although the resistance of wire A may be correct for the advertised impedance, it may be too high if the speaker impedance goes lower than that. It has nothing to do with the kind of wire, only that the resistance of one wire may be too high for that particular speaker used for the listening test. This lack of understanding for the impedance behavior of a speaker used for a listening test may explain listening differences that people can truly hear. One wire can truly appear to sound different than the other but for the wrong reasons. A speaker that has a constant impedance at all frequencies (most speakers do not) will only show a difference in listening level and not alter the response when the wire size is too small for A or B. Of course, the listening levels will be different unless they are compensated for in advance. Otherwise, the louder sounding one will likely be chosen. To avoid these difficulties, whether the speaker has constant impedance or varies, the two wires to be compared should have the same total resistance and that could mean different lengths would be needed to make the resistances equal. Otherwise, under these adverse conditions of different resistance, a person can select one wire consistently. It may be easy to hear differences in the frequency range or ranges where the speaker being used has impedance dips that are below the rated value of the speaker. In some marginal cases it may even be possible, depending on the bandwidth of the speaker impedance dips, to hear differences that go near but not below the rated impedance. However it is a false conclusion that the wire selected is because of a unique wire construction or other advertised features. Only the difference in wire resistance is being heard due to the speaker being used in the listening test. Of course, a different speaker will most likely have a different impedance curve depending on the crossover design and whether it is a single wide-range driver, two-way, three-way, etc. system. In that case an impedance dip or dips can be in a different frequency range and have a different bandwidth. A listening test will then reveal yet a new set of sonic differences. Again, resistance is the key. Bear in mind that if both wires in the test are much heavier than needed for the particular speaker that is used and the speaker impedance is fairly constant, small wire resistance differences may have little influence in the test. Several speaker wire manufacturers make wire that has high capacitance yet almost none of them publish exactly what the capacitance actually is. Capacitance is of concern not so much that it could cause a possible high frequency rolloff but that it can affect the amplifier feedback and cause the leading edge of transients to overshoot. This in turn can make an audible difference in the system sound. It can make the sound brighter, which some audiophiles mistake as greater detail. The degree of influence when using high capacitance wire depends on three factors. 1. The total capacitance of the wire used (capacitance per foot times the number of feet). 2. The complex impedance of the speaker being used. 3. The stability of the amplifier being used to drive the speaker. When there is an audible difference in speaker wire due to wire capacitance, it can be interpreted as an improvement when one wire appears to have more clarity but is actually altering the sound and departing from accuracy. Perhaps this change in sound then paves the way to sell more wire. Further, perhaps the wire companies already know this and what will sell. If the speaker wire companies had not introduced wire having high capacitance, either out of ignorance or by intention, then there would have been no controversy like this and ordinary low resistance wire, which incidentally has very low capacitance, would have remained king from the beginning. Although some expensive wires can have low resistance, several have a high capacitance of 100 to 300 picofarads (pf) per foot. These can introduce a significant amount of capacitive load, particularly for longer lengths. For a 50 foot length, this adds up to 5000 to 15,000 pf, which is the same as .005 to .015 microfarads (mfd). Unfortunately, in addition to sounding different with a small amount of overshoot, a few unstable or borderline amplifiers can even go into oscillation. Low power oscillation, even if ultrasonic, will further affect the listening performance of a system and could lead to an apparent mysterious burnout of a tweeter. Oscillation at full power could cause an amplifier and/or speaker system to burn out.

@user-xh2qi7tn2l

Жыл бұрын

Очень правильные и полезные выводы!

Very entertaining

And yet another great video!!

Test wel signature vs dragon zero ?

I believe I can definitely hear a difference, , I found this video very interesting.

@Abrikosmanden

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you believe ... That's what they make their snake oil money off of - your belief.

@ct5006360

5 жыл бұрын

But were you happy with the first sample ? You can't miss what you don't have . @Stewart ?

@neve1064

5 жыл бұрын

Ask gateway mastering what cables they use; talk about a reference standard mastering house.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

@@Abrikosmanden You don't even know what snake oil is, but you feel qualified to mention it.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

Even through KZread you could hear the background singers' voices were much smoother. The old gen Monster Cable didn't sound horrible but was thicker, slower with less detail. Good to see the better stuff is less expensive than the previous gen.

A long winded presentation of how superior the product is THEN a listening session. I'm no psychologist but that is marketing and salesmanship at it finest. Confirmation bias anyone?

@4879daniel

Жыл бұрын

individuals will sit there thinking everyone else is hearing a difference so they in turn think there must be one.

I heard the Audioquest’s sales guy from the video saying that the « Mythical Creatures » Dragon cable is now made from real Dragonglass? I am ready to place an order for the Dragon cable, so can anyone please confirm this?

Lets invent the wheel…and put a 72v battery on it 😂

I use 12 gauge OFC $5 NZD per metre and sounds much better than the Audioquest cable I had.

@lockness3723

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheCaptonZ That is precisely the point I was making. I paid approximately $30 NZD per metre for the Audioquest cable. I then used good oxygen free copper cable (OFC) bought for $5 NZD per metre and it sounded better by eliminating or drastically reducing the sibilance I had when using the Audioquest cable.

@Satyajit_Dey

Жыл бұрын

I think most speakers are made and tuned keeping ordinary copper cables in mind. If someone boost high end of the spectrum using cables it will sound too sharp and fatiguing. I think with eq you can also make a copper cable sound like Audiquest. Then why waste money on cables when you can spend it on other gears. Correct me if I am wrong.

@chrisschneider850

11 ай бұрын

thank you. the AQ cable i bought for 200 euros does sound clearer. but very brash, too sharp. and hurts my ears. this is connected from a 2k dj mixer-@@Satyajit_Dey

I just purchased a pretty good amp, preamp with revel speakers and a c-sharp turntable two weeks ago. I love the sound. Can it sound better, that is every audiophile's dream. Maybe my ears are pedestrian but I can not hear any difference. I really want to hear a difference but my years don't hear it.

@Abrikosmanden

5 жыл бұрын

Cables won't make your equipment sound different unless they're defective or not built to relevant electrical specifications!

@AndrePrudhomme

5 жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty awesome system - congrats!

@bobposner6286

5 жыл бұрын

@@AndrePrudhomme Thanks man, Classe preamp and amp. I work hard, love music, deserve it. At least in my mind.

@bobposner6286

5 жыл бұрын

@@Abrikosmanden That is what I am trying to find out. You talk to electrical engineers they say it is not possible. Others swear cables can make a difference.

@Abrikosmanden

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobposner6286 When people with relevant education and no financial stakes tell you it's not possible, and when no serious studio uses exotic cables, what do you think is the truth? The placebo effect is very real and very well described. The way we fool our selves to justify an expensive purchase (ie. an exotic hifi cable) is also well understood. There are no two ways about it; exotic hifi cables are a huge scam, which this video perfectly demonstrated - the presenter had to increase the volume by 4db for people to experience a difference. It's well known that a difference in volume of just 0,1db is enough to make people prefer the slightly louder version, even though they won't actually be aware of the increase in loudness. Save your money and just enjoy your system!

thank you for the video !!! did you hear a good difference between wild and thunderbird ??

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

yes quite a significant one :)

@moukiebengal9753

5 жыл бұрын

what cables do you use for your kef reference 3??

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

@@moukiebengal9753 email me and we can discuss it personally ;) unfair to do so here :)

@darrens7040

5 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Why is it unfair ????? I thought your channel was an open affair your reply above would indicate your not.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

@@darrens7040 its unfair to discuss different brands in the chat of this video. It should be about this video and audioquest really

4:00 does anybody hear differences of -130dB from maximum 115dB SPL? I don't hear louder than 95 dB SPL. Noise might be lower than -90dB. How can someone hear differences of cable, which lies around -110 or even -130dB?

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure you can hear louder than that. Why do you believe you can't?

Continue your great job my speaker cable are 10 ga. Supra

If the cable that the artist in the studio is using during the master session are of poor quality ( like the cable from the mic/instrument to the mixer ). What could you acctual gain using a high end cable at your end, when listening to the same music? You cant reproduce quality that wasn't there in the first place Its my theory.. Or Is the way I'm thinking wrong? I take no stand in this so teach me please.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

2 жыл бұрын

Thats semi irrelevant really - the music you listen to is a combination of what is recorded and then what is processed into a final product that is published for consumption - with the exception of direct to disc which hens teeth rare anyway. Better cables are there for you to hear the best of what your gear can offer, the gear is there to make your favourite music an genuine experience to listen to

@FoxMulder_

2 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks for the reply :)

Pure "Snake-oil" by David Copperfield. Get it 😬 Copper field.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

You need to research snake oil. You're using the term incorrectly as do most.

@bachiano1

5 жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt How am I using the Term incorrectly ? This is the definition I found: "Snake Oil is a euphemism for deceptive Marketing"

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

@@bachiano1 You didn't research snake oil at all but looked up the term in Wiki which is not a reliable source of fact. Snake oil isn't even a euphemism as a euphemism is word or phrase meant to make something less offensive. This comes to my point. In our recent culture if people say something incorrectly enough times, it becomes de facto. How often have you seen on TV or read in print that Edison invented the light bulb? I hope you know it isn't true. How often have you heard a beamer/beemer in reference to a BMW car? It's actually "bimmer", beemers are motorcycles. The world is getting dumber by the second, we don't need to give it a push in the same direction. Research the history of snake oil and I'm sure you'll agree the term is used inappropriately and probably started by an absolute moron.

@bachiano1

5 жыл бұрын

​@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt What source do you think is reliable ? Maybe a link would be helpful. Thanks. BTW. I'm not retired yet. So I don't have all day to dig into the history of a term that has already morphed into a new meaning. That's just what happens with language. "Snake Oil" today means exactly what I quoted. That wiki definition is what is accepted today in common parlance.

@wobblechopps

4 жыл бұрын

bachiano I must be a moron then! We use the term snake oil because we all understand what you mean . You will constantly get educated on KZread but the fact is you made a point, a good one at that then people pick at your terminology. I say what ever . It’s all about gerth

Wow, great presentation and demo. Thanks for sharing.

My issue is in AudioQuest's "Secret Sauce". The addition of any component, be it a resistor, a capacitor, or inductor, will change the sound of an audio system when added inline with the speaker cable. MIT use to put Zobel networks on their speaker cables. MIT cables absolutely sounded different than other cables. Unfortunately, they limited bandwidth too. Had Garth Powell been more concise with what makes their cables different, then the demonstration would have been more credible. An ideal test would be to build a 2'x2'x4' Faraday shielded box. Then compare an integrated amp and cd player to an identical combo within the faraday cage. The goal would be to see how audible the cumulation of radio interference is on audio systems. If there is a clear difference, then the hifi wire industry would be partially justified, although the components themselves are just as susceptible to RF noise as the cables.

@oysteinsoreide4323

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but in this demo, they are only changing the speaker cables. You don't have time to change all kinds of factors. There are of course other factors that affect the sound.

@WaWa7848

5 жыл бұрын

Just read what Mark Waldrep write about cables: www.realhd-audio.com/

@conchobar

5 жыл бұрын

@@oysteinsoreide4323 The AudioQuest cables being used in the demo aren't just straight wire, but have electronic components in-line, components of which they do not divulge, hence the "Secret Sauce" moniker.

@raymondleggs5508

5 жыл бұрын

@@conchobar The most hilarious of their cable is the one where you put an AA battery in a box that does nothing in the middle of the cable.

@allansh828

2 жыл бұрын

I've talked to some cable manufacturers. Some admit that they simply try a bunch of things, like different materials, geometry, etc. They don't understant exactly why it works that way.

For anyone wondering about Audioquest cables there is this really eye-opening factory tour video for Stereophile (also notice the comments): kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmRtxLeNnbDTedY.html (and yes this is not a cable factory but an assembing facility)

@econautx

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by eye-opening? I

I think the differences are subtle. So subtle that it might be confirmation bias on my side. I think the differences the Niagara 1200 makes in the other video are much bigger. Actually I got a 1200 myself after seeing that, but was a little disappointed. But I got a glimpse of what power conditioning is able to. Being intrigued I switched to a Niagara 3000 and now that really made a difference. The stage has gained so much depth and it sounds so much more 3D now, really great upgrade!

Mogami: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y66LlbNwgrvNhso.html AQ Wild: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y66LlbNwgrvNhso.html AQ William Tell: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y66LlbNwgrvNhso.html AQ Dragon: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y66LlbNwgrvNhso.html

In some ways I prefer the monster cable despite the worse PRaT, the others are too bright, especially Wild and Dragon. I've had AQ USB cables, preferred the cheapest one, the more expensive have more silver content which usually sounds more analytical which is a bad thing - in my ears.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

you wouldnt think that in the flesh if you get the chance to attend one of these demos.

@metnoc10

4 жыл бұрын

​@@PursuitPerfectSystem maybe, but I've tried my fair share of cables, never heard a silver or silver plated cable that I've liked. Furthermore never enjoyed AQ cables. I'm a "copper kind of guy", Audience is a favorite brand, another is Vovox. Thanks for all the good work that you're doing.

Ever heard the point of diminishing returns. What exactly is "slightly refined" perhaps that could explain sugar.You expect a refined sound because you believe the packaging and the subjective apinion of a stranger.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

The point of diminishing returns does not exist, there is no point of dimishing returns sound just keeps getting better and better

Soon we will have to replace the term "snake oil salesman" with "audioquest salesman"

@njm1971nyc

10 ай бұрын

Hehehe - you're not wrong!!

Oh my god I’m really enjoying watching the video footage from pursuit perfect system from the 2019 Munich high end hifi show Terry you have done a great job but just watched this rubbish this guy should get an award for the this demo come on stop with theatrical display at the end of the day it’s a bit of wire for a real reviews of cables ect visit audioholics

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

its pursuit perfect system picture is important too not just audio ;) Never getting pefect audio using just bits of wire imo - not even close :)

@gingerninja7187

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve watched many videos by audioquest I’m not saying there products are crap tbh I’ve tried some for myself on loan but I just can’t take these guys seriously from telling us the cable has direction and attaching a battery to some off their cables that does not even make any connection that’s crazy

Jeezus. Can he come up with a bigger straw man than comparing Audioquest speaker wire to 22 gauge lamp wire. I would love to see Audioquest compare their best 12 gauge speaker wire vs. 2 13ft runs of 12 gauge CL2 Monoprice speaker wire with (4 sets of banana plugs) $23 total.

@swllz

2 жыл бұрын

I am sure my combined three prong 12 gauge power ( about 7 gauge) extension cable (stranded copper cable) sounds as good as their most expensive cable if they dire to do a blind test.

- Says he's an engineer - Calculates a wavelength of an EM wave for speed of sound - Is not an engineer Wavelength of 2.4GHz EM is over 120mm

@valcomaustralia

4 жыл бұрын

Any non retarded engineer will design or even wanna be part of all this absolutely non sense, he is not an engineer, he is a charlatan a crook a extremely dishonest sales man. They pray into people's ignorance and good nature.

@valcomaustralia

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the many meters of copper wire inside those speaker's crossover, not even talking about the flat wires that caps are made of....oh yes his cables with snake DNA make thing way better🤯🤯🤯

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

4 жыл бұрын

@@valcomaustralia Apparently you're a charlatan pretending to know the English language. Nonsense is one word not two as in your non sense. You hold no credibility with me. I sincerely doubt your entire Emerson system is worth more than my phone. I could go on with the rest of your atrocious grammar, but I haven't the energy.

@valcomaustralia

4 жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt I am sorry that I am Japanese and English is not my first language as I self thought, however I am a real engineer and I been working for Sony for the past 26 years in the pro division 😁 that's the Professional engineering division just incase my english is not sufficient. As per my comments are 100% valid .....if you were coming with such "nonsense" in my team you would be instantly "unassigned" in other words "fired"

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

4 жыл бұрын

@@valcomaustralia And if you worked for Audioquest, or Furutech for that matter, you'd be fired. What's your point? An engineer disagreeing with another is also a fruitless endeavor. What I will tell you is that cables can sound vastly different and if you can't accept that, you should demand your tuition back.

The only thing I could notice is some cables are a bit brighter.

@user-zo7lf7br8k

5 жыл бұрын

Я бы впарил все провода прямо в этом зале.Все.И попросили бы еще.Моя система лучше.Подбор динамиков ,и без к тому же сопротивлений .А магия позволяет использовать разные твитер.и душа дует а струны не режут.*801-беда №1*.У меня бы все уже подпевали.

@lloyd.8272

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah what he said!

Speaker cables can only make the sound worse because they have to transport sound between an amp and speakers. As a pro musician (acoustic instruments) I some times hear differences and some times not. My advice is to start taking measuremens of the acoustics in your room, speaker placement and listening chair placement.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

good advice - but what about after that?

@Peter-ii4xq

5 жыл бұрын

After your room acoustics and placement are as good as possible find a combination of valves and solid state. Each type of valve sounds different. Finally use your computer and a seperate dac. A good turntable will beat a good dac, but it's not cheap. Finally cables can fine tune the sound. It all costs a lot of work. Good luck.

@Canadian_Eh_I

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! As an obsessed audiophile myself, it took a long time to realize that the real system games comes not from a better amp or speaker cables, but room treatment. I dare say more than 50% of what you hear is simply the room..even cheap speakers can sound quite amazing with perfect acoustics

@Peter-ii4xq

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! For me it's also around 50%. I was lucky that friends offered to take measurements. Audio Salesman won't tell you this. About this all I can almost write a book. Audio forums a second book (-:

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

Which measurement corresponds with higher or wider soundstage? Which one for more air and tighter bass? Quicker transients? How many people have this measurement equipment?

By AQ I hear chocolaty midrange. The chocolaty midrange. I say it again. Chocolaty.

Buying better speakers and room treatment has a way more effect. Cables cannot better the sound. What goes in doesn't come out. Tip: Look how "air"-cables are made and build them yourself for a few % they cost in a hifi shop.

BS... No on uses cheap AC lamp cord... But good quality 10 gauge zip cord is indistinguishable from your most expensive cables in a blind A.B test. I know, I have done many tests on many audiophile's homes. Always the same results. No on could tell the difference.

20,000 Khz? Who is able to hear that? A marsian...? lol 😏

@kuisin88

5 жыл бұрын

I think he means 20HZ to 20KHZ. LOL

@timhull8664

5 жыл бұрын

kuisin88 I used to be able to hear 20kHz.... when I was 10

@fabriziocarlino7945

4 жыл бұрын

Yessss the new B&W had the new super ultra mega tweeter to reach the 20,000 KHZ. did you hear that? yes either in KZread :)

🙄🙄🤯😳🤔🤔🤪. Terry, I couldn’t resist!😬🤗😉😇. And of course different doesn’t mean better.🧐😳🤐

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

not always but in this instance the latter sound quality is markedly better than the former which is great as hopefully it helps get the right message across :)

@bigjay1970

5 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem Agreed!😁😁🤗🤗

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

Usually the argument is better. Nobody is buying speaker cables because they sound worse than what they have. It's funny because there is the group that claims differences don't exist. There is the group that says there may be differences but they are inaudible. There is the group that says yes there are differences but they are neither better or worse just different. Then there are Audiophiles that say all of the above plus some actually improve the sound. Which statement sounds balanced and logical?

@bachiano1

5 жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Bingo! Your statement does not mean that a cable that sounds a few % better than a 20 gauge free oxygen copper cable should cost 100X - 200X or 300X the price of a plain $20 free oxygen copper cable. Not to mention that there are plenty more things you can do to improve the sound of your system than playing around with speaker cables.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

@@bachiano1 Pricing can be outrageous but doesn't have to be. There are cars that cost $3 million dollars but I don't see anyone crying placebo about them. Those same cars are sometimes just tenths of a second faster in the quarter mile. In this hobby there are detractors that have nothing better to do but "snake oil" everything. I've heard it a million times. Percentages in performance is a relative think. A guitar playing through an AM radio still can be identified as a guitar but is that what you listen to at home for pleasure? Can you put a percentage on an amplifier you like versus one you don't? It's a cumulative thing. In 1991 I owned the flagship B&W matrix 800 speakers. I knew the Canadian dustributer and the only place I could audition them was 5 hours away at the top dealer in the province. To say they sounded dreadful would be an understatement. All the gear was top notch but together sounded horrible with those speakers. Why was this? With years (40) of experience and a trained ear I have tailored the systems of all my friends to be neutral and musical. Subtleties and nuance is what this hobby is all about. In the end it's the difference between the average and the sublime. If your system isn't giving you goosebumps and putting a smile on your face every time you turn it on, well, you're just doing it wrong. Once you have excellent equipment there is nowhere else to go but to look into cabling. What makes you think a $200 pair of speaker cables from Blue Jeans is perfect or the best available? Is it because you heard some engineer say so? Many cable companies are started by engineers. So it's the word of one engineer vs another. FYI I've also worked in acoustics for 29 years. It's bad enough when closed minded engineer types dismiss cables but it really bothers me when people with no credentials start throwing around snake oil and placebo as a rebuttal to everything they can't afford. It's a f**k the rich mentality. They are too stupid to hold on to their money. They have more money than brain. They are suckers who are easily fooled. Do you really believe in this day and age that audiophiles can't wait to throw their money away on useless things? Inexperienced teenagers aren't the ones buying $2000 speaker cables. At any rate, if you have reference quality gear and you don't hear a significant difference in a pair of cables, my advice has always been to not buy them. Always audition everything if possible and ultimately if you're not enjoying this hobby, then you're doing it wrong. Cheers.

I really really tried to watch the whole video but failed... too much non-sense.

@CasusBelli1000

3 жыл бұрын

That s all the fun of it dude !!!

salesman he's moving his lips

On average, an amplifier delivers a maximum of 1 watt of power to the speakers at room volume. This value can also double for loudspeakers with lower efficiency. The lowest impedance of most loudspeakers is about 3 ohms. At an operating voltage of just under 2 volts, this results in a current flow of 0.6 amperes. For this current flow - and only that counts! - a cable with a cross-section of approx. 0.1mm² (assumed to be 10 meters long) is theoretically sufficient. The cross-section of a human hair would be sufficient for a NF cinch cable! In fact, the acoustic signal in the source device or amplifier does not pass through much larger cross-sections over countless components. Only in the output stage of an amplifier are the cross-sections adapted to the possible current flow. But here, too, the "show" is often exaggerated. In the output stage transistors (I have already sawn up several), i.e. where the entire current flows towards the loudspeaker, wires with a maximum diameter of 0.2mm are used. What good are finger-thick cables afterwards? If the entire stretched length of a HiFi chain were represented graphically, the proportion for the connection cables would only be 1-2 percent (estimated). Even if these cables are "the best", this does not change the fact that the audio signal is conducted over much longer distances through relatively inferior and thin materials (internal wiring of the devices and loudspeakers, PCB tracks, connecting wires of the components, etc.). But there are other weak points. For example, relays are used in almost every amplifier before the loudspeaker connections, which only switch on the loudspeakers a few seconds after they have been switched on. This protects the loudspeakers from DC voltage and prevents an inrush current. The contact surfaces of these relays are the size of a pinhead, but they transmit the entire amplifier power! What is it always called? The weakest link in a chain determines its overall quality. The cables will certainly not be, in fact they are always (even when standard cables are used) the strongest links of a HiFi chain.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

If you have dismantled finger thick speaker cable, you would see it is not a cord of finger thick copper. Your argument doesn't hold up. Some cable designs using a Litz configuration may use air as a dialectric resulting in a much thicker outer dimension. The quantity of copper is low relative the the jackets size. Then some designs are filled with filler to reduce vibrations. I agree that a speaker cable does not necessarily require 4 gauge copper runs to be effective but the outer thickness does not reflect the gauge of the copper inside.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

Operating voltage is greater than 2 volts and a typical listening volume takes more like 5 watts from an amp. In my group of friends this would be much, much higher.

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

carlos oliveira More than 2 volts are practically never applied. And I wanted to show that all high-end cables are nonsense. Think this further: In every passive loudspeaker, a coil for filtering out high frequencies is connected upstream of the built-in bass driver as a low-pass filter. Such coils consist of enamelled copper wire with a maximum diameter of 1.25mm, i.e. a cross-section of approx. 1mm². Depending on the required inductance, about 30 to 100 meters of wire are used. Very good coils in expensive loudspeakers (or those with low inductance) achieve resistance values of about 0.3 Ohm. Less good (or those with high inductance) 0.7 to 1 Ohm. Such a resistance value causes even the "greatest" damping factor of a high-end amplifier to remain largely ineffective and only a fraction of it reaches the bass driver (another fine example for theory and practice). Even the thickest and most expensive LS cable can't change this.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 Firstly your practically never applied is just not accurate. I've been in the business for about 40 years in one form or another so you aren't going to convince me of anything that I don't already know. I don't know where you are going with your attempt of why cables are bogus, but it's neither here nor there. It doesn't explain or prove what you think it does.

@Kway-xl7cc

5 жыл бұрын

I would love to see Carlos do a blind listening test with cables

AQ makes truly hi-fi goods. I can hear chocolaty midrange, my wife in the kitchen hears difference. I have a engineerig DEGREE!!

@Jon-nz3dm

2 жыл бұрын

THE HIGHS ARE SPARKLING SO MUCH MORE BASS HAS MORE BUTTER SNAKE OIL CABLE BATTERY MAKE ME CUM

@krismichalsky

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you are joking here... Since we can't hear the inflection of your voice, I'm guessing you are joking here.

@Jon-nz3dm

2 жыл бұрын

@@krismichalsky check out audioholics debunking this cable nonsense. it is clearly a joke, much like AQ as a company making this incredibly overpriced snake oil.

I would like to know if people actually heard a difference. I have heard that in pretty much all blind listening tests people couldn't hear a difference in speaker cable. Obviously listening to this through youtube isn't going to work.

@a330flyguy2

5 жыл бұрын

There was a blind test by the audio society of Minnesota. Results were all over the map and people who owned expensive cables tended to like the sound of cheaper ones. But these guys have to sell their overpriced copper somehow.

I could feel myself slipping into a comma within the first minute, .....zzzzzzzz

25:48 of course they don't believe in ideal length of cables, shorter cables = less money for them :D

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

not really as a shorter length means you can buy a more expensive and better cable for the same money. It's the buyer who wins in that situation

I wonder why they dont hire a fucking sales engineer and pull out a fucking oscilloscope and show us fucking real numbers. I will have to buy all of these $500 cables now and test them out vs a basic usb cable.

GARTH POWELL is a SHEAR GENIUS at his CRAFT and his PRODUCT ENGINEERING at Audioquest represents it in every way !!! CONGRATULATIONS to him and Audioquest for these 21st century REVOLUTIONARY products

@ea9mrn

4 жыл бұрын

sucker!

@njm1971nyc

10 ай бұрын

Seems more like a chubby Ron Popeil to me. His only "genius" lies in separating rich old fools from their cash. That IS pretty clever though, I have to admit!

This is pure comedy! 😂

@chrishayden6088

5 жыл бұрын

You must have COTTON in your Ears !!!

@martinchylek7017

11 ай бұрын

Correct 😂 man

And the beat goes on. I see a lot of cables on the floor and not a single on is elevated by one of those magic rock thingies. For shame.

@volpedo2000

5 жыл бұрын

william fitzpatrick that’s because modern HiEnd cables don’t need to be placed on support anymore. They are now shielded against gravitational waves and neutrinos. CERN and the JPL are investigating but cable companies are not revealing how they manage to do it.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

If you are going to make fun of something, you should at least know something about it. Your attempt at humour just makes you look kind of foolish otherwise. Go ahead find out what they are called and from what they are constructed, then come back and make intelligent fun of them.

@williamfitzpatrick6369

5 жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt . . I do know something about it. I owned an audio store in Los Angeles for years (we sold more GAS Ampzillas than any other dealer in the country). I threw Mr. Bose out the door when he came calling, designed and built speaker systems (one of which I sold to the owner of Mobil Fidelity Records), repaired audio equipment, designed amplifiers, wrote some speaker positioning software. I got my masters in electrical engineering from the University of Arizona. I worked at JBL and Cerwin Vega for a number of years. Commercial speaker cable elevating devices are often made of stone, wood or probably almost anything. Whatever they are made of, they don't make a bit of difference. Neither do the esoteric speaker cables starting with the early Monster Cable and on to the $1000/meter rip-offs that dimwitted audiophiles like to waste their money on. If you happen to believe that nonsense that's one of your shortcomings. I got so fed up with that bullshit that I left the business. So, thank you, I'll be as sarcastic as I please regarding the subject of audio.

@bachiano1

5 жыл бұрын

@@volpedo2000 😂

@timhull8664

5 жыл бұрын

william think you shut him up! But you forgot Hawkwind knew about these issues in their early days and even embedded anti particle strings in their song ‘quark strangeness and charm’ which helped diminish harmonics produced by gamma rays from the sun. Hope that helps..

I can hear the difference in person and even here on youtube. If you can not then don't complain. Consider yourself lucky. You can save money by using cheap lamp cord from the hardware store. ;)

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

Yippie Some HiFi esoterics claim that they can even hear different connector products and whether they have been crimped or soldered to the cables. They also believe they can detect the use of different types of solder and many other similar crazy things. These people should be tested in a blinded state on their own assertions so that they can finally awaken from their "dreams"! 😂

@yippie6862

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 Go save money and don't worry so much what others do with their own money.

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

Yippie I'm not interested in who spends their money on what, but I'd like you to admit that you spend too much on something that doesn't make a difference except a lighter purse. There are some people out there who are serious about HiFi and sound, who are worried about space, who are actually concerned with matter and just looking for something to calculateg. And then there are the guys who think their ears are a certified measuring instrument, who ruminate without any idea what magazines put in front of you and then also legitimize a guy like up there in the video, who knows that he sells you overpriced, completely ineffective cables. But it's okay, keep being ignorant to simple-minded and proud of it.

@yippie6862

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 First you tell everyone what they should do, what they can or can not buy, and then you put people down and call them names? All because they don't agree with you. Wow, you really have issues.

@hoorayforyoutoob

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 You're saying that these cables are not only overpriced but that they are ineffective? Are you saying that they are actually worse than average cables? If price was irrelevant (let's say someone offered you a standard 16 gauge reasonably priced speaker wire or audioquests most expensive cable for free) you would choose the "reasonably" priced wire?

Companies make $30,000 speaker cables because idiots will buy them... my $500 cables sound the same

40 years ago Monster did the same type of comparisons ! lol Want to right cable type ? Look inside of your speakers ! Save thousands !

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

In some high end (expensive) speakers, the internal cabling is expensive as well. I guess you wouldn't know if all you own is a pair of $500 speakers.

Nothing justifys putting in your stereo setup 12k cables, there is difference when you compare these side by side, other than that you're fine with x20 cheeper ones. And the crap about shielding? Yep go and buy 3k power cable as well. Business is business. Good marketing can sell anything

There are a lot of people in the world who do not understand standard electrical principles and unfortunately, these people get taken advantage of by people like this. The straight honest truth is simple, reduce impedance as far as is reasonably practical (larger SWG as short as possible) and avoid running power cables with your speaker cables. The rest of the discussion regarding high-frequency induction into speaker cables is pure nonsense, as the residual inductance in a single short strand of copper cable is so small that compared to the current / voltage delivery to your speakers it will have no determinable impact, your amplifier will have a far greater level of impact due to it Electromagnetic Screening You cannot compare hundreds of miles of communication lines with 3 feet speaker cables. I am a consultant electrical engineer who works it the transmission industry, so happy to be challenged, the truth is that there will be differences between these cables as he is showing extremes, but if you use $30 of 12SWG tinned copper speaker cable with very good connections at both ends it will give you 99.99% efficiency on power to noise ratio, a $400 speaker cable will give you 99.999% and a $10,000 speaker cable will give you 99.9999%. What this means is an improvement for $400 cable will be 1/100,000 and the £10,000 cable 1/1,000,000, much over 1/1000 cannot be determined by the human ear, so yes there will be improvements but so small that you will not hear them. What you heard here is due to the extremes being demonstrated. If you have $5000 of speakers and $5000 of amplification then $30 will give you cables you need to achieve 99.99% If you have $100,000 of speakers and $100,000 of amplification then clearly you can spend whatever you like as you are already way past the realms of diminishing returns and will be dealing in differences that cannot be heard anyway. So guys do not get drawn in by the sales pitch, you can achieve near perfection for $30, I would recommend something like KabelDirekt speaker cable (2x4mm² HiFi audio speaker wire) It will give you what you want, spend the rest of your hard-earned money on the speakers and amplifiers, this will give you far more of a return on your investment.

@econautx

3 жыл бұрын

Can you please explain what you mean by "extremes" he is demonstrating? It's short cables which are more or less affordable and normal music. Where's the extremes?

I'm almost happy to not be able to hear anything above 15 kHz, so I don't have to spend a ridiculous amount of money on cables 😀

Snake oil.... Brother, you have no idea what you are talking about. You guys literally just talk your cables up so much that when people hear them they automatically expect them to sound better. This is literally the placebo effect and this is exactly what good marketing teams do. So, you've apparently done your job so well, that you've convinced yourself these cables sound better. The only time when a cable will sound better than another cable if it is not able to produce the entire sound spectrum. Even cheap 12, 14, even 18 gauge wire will be fine, you're going overboard and the battery pack BS is adding noise to your "superior" cable.

With each improvement in the cable, the track made more 'sense'. It was simply easier to understand what the artists and recording engineers intended.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

bang on it becomes more focused in the recording but in real life more was happening!!

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

😂 JESUS WHAT A BULLSHIT.

@SR009s

5 жыл бұрын

Hans Fischer were you there?

@MovieViking

4 жыл бұрын

Which is precisely why the order of demoing the cables were planned the way it was. It's a well known psychoacoustic effect or in other words change in perception brought on by the repetition and which the magician uses to manipulate you. In reality you would most likely have had the same subjective experience if they by mistake had messed up the sequence and ended with the Monster cable.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

@@dragocat1 HiFi is not listening to real instruments its listening to recorded sound which is very very very different

Your ears have a very short memory….I.e. brain won’t discern subtle to moderate differences. You need an a/b switcher! Whenever I compared any component in the studio, an a/b switcher is indispensable.

B&W 800 series speakers never fail to disappoint.

@toffe2ventil

8 ай бұрын

800series, the best there is.... At the price point... I'll take a 801D4 over for example the Magico A5 any day!

The wires inside your amplifier and speakers is not $4,000 boutique cable. Think about that. However, I do believe that cables sound different because they manipulate the signal to give the listener the illusion of more air, more bass, wider soundstage, etc.

@mr.dynamite2543

5 жыл бұрын

@@chriskilbourn Dude, are u kidding? That's how the boutique cable manufactures survive. All they do is manipulate and alter the signal.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

You are too funny or you forgot your meds today.

@carlosoliveira-rc2xt

5 жыл бұрын

@@mr.dynamite2543 If you could manipulate with wire to make your speakers sound better, why wouldn't you. Why wouldn't you buy $5 speakers and manipulate them to sound like $5000 speakers with just some $1000 cables. You would still be ahead, wouldn't you? I think not.

@mr.dynamite2543

5 жыл бұрын

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Maybe I wasn't clear enough.... My fault. The man speaking made it sound as if boutique cabling "gets out of the way of the music", and just lets it flow naturally. My argument was that it's doing the exact opposite. Different, expensive cables alter the signal to give you the illusion or perception of more of this or less if that. That's why they sound different. So yes, if you can use cables as tone controls to make a speaker or amp sounds as if they're 5 times the price, go right ahead.

I feel like I can actually hear the difference...

Show us the tests. You can say anything and some people will believe it. Such bull on outside frequencies introducing themselves into the speaker wires. Maybe on the input of a phono preamp but not on the output of an amp and speaker wires.

@andru2625

5 жыл бұрын

He said that you don't have to believe him. You have to listen for yourself in person and see the difference.

@kevinroach9380

5 жыл бұрын

@@andru2625 Believe or not let's see the test results, prove it. Many of people died from drinking the cool aid.

If this problem is so big then active speakers would be the norm....

Better call Gene!

@PursuitPerfectSystem

2 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that to the ghost busters theme song

The presenter gives me the creeps. Just like a used cars salesman.

@raymondleggs5508

5 жыл бұрын

Plot twist... He IS a used car salesman

@jamiesmith6838

4 жыл бұрын

Lol he's not that bad. I think I learned something?

@allansh828

2 жыл бұрын

like a typical American I suppose

As someone who's been into hifi for 25 years,cables usually don't impress me....but I was recently blown away by qed reference toslink...it was like upgrading your cd player from budget to mid level.Now I've got the bug and have ordered audioquest vodka optical.

20:05 23:19 26:49 30:30

I have audioquest cables and i have low price cables, theres no diffrens in sound. The only thing that i notice is that AQ cables are more beautiful. Its always funny seeing cables lined up in a nice curve behind the speaker even With speakercable feets under so that the sound can travel smooother 😂😂😂😂

@marcwebber909

4 жыл бұрын

its cause you dont have the proper gear to support the cable. What kind of equipment do you have ?

I know there is a debate on the subject of speaker cables and sound. I am in the please prove it to me with my own ears side. My question, every video and every picture I have seen of really, really top end systems from high end product shows or even private views from someones home always have thick cables running to the speakers from the amps. What do the people that spend $80,000, $100,000 or more know that the rest of us don't. Pictures from a product show or someone reviewing equipment could conceivably use expensive cables that are provided free, but what about the other guys. The more expensive the system, the more likely expensive cables are shown. They all can't be gullible. It seems this debate is played out in the systems that are not top end.

if you play back from the first track and then skip to the last they sound exactly the same.and loudness. i wouldnt be paying 5 - 7 grand for cables.

@_kicaBo_

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

😂Sill AudioQuest is the perfect match to B&W, & the rest can Throw away Eg StraQing cable.😅

He is a great engineer, he made me chocolaty midrange. But his teacher forgot to teach him what is mechanical wave, what is sin wave, what is EMR. Not his fault, he is a great AQ engineer.

Can you believe it that there are still people who wont believe in cables,its a strange world...

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

On average, an amplifier delivers a maximum of 1 watt of power to the speakers at room volume. This value can also double for loudspeakers with lower efficiency. The lowest impedance of most loudspeakers is about 3 ohms. At an operating voltage of just under 2 volts, this results in a current flow of 0.6 amperes. For this current flow - and only that counts! - a cable with a cross-section of approx. 0.1mm² (assumed to be 10 meters long) is theoretically sufficient. The cross-section of a human hair would be sufficient for a NF cinch cable! In fact, the acoustic signal in the source device or amplifier does not pass through much larger cross-sections over countless components. Only in the output stage of an amplifier are the cross-sections adapted to the possible current flow. But here, too, the "show" is often exaggerated. In the output stage transistors (I have already sawn up several), i.e. where the entire current flows towards the loudspeaker, wires with a maximum diameter of 0.2mm are used. What good are finger-thick cables afterwards? Can you please explain to me how you want to hear a difference where nobody can be?

@KT88gs

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 You forget the feeling,some things cant be explained,its all about the feeling/emotion.Expensive cables can do that,by that i mean the emotion,i live with very expensive cables by Stealth,i know what im talking about.

@redleather100

5 жыл бұрын

Hans Fischer I think that this is a great argument. And you forgot after the speaker cables is the speaker which normally is wired up with cheap cable inside them . Where is the logic . But speaker cables do make a difference as I’ve heard it myself on my own system going from a very cheap cable to a moderately priced cable one and it did transform the sound . I just think paying thousands for cable is crazy just keep it real😜

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

Gino Sauerbier You can and may live with any imagination, but don't sell it as facts.

@KT88gs

5 жыл бұрын

@@hansfischer6148 If there is one brand that dont lie its Audioquest.

The DBS (Dielectric Bias System) by AudioQuest will not improve sound quality. Amir Mejidimehr from Audio Science Review, and Gene DellaSala from Audioholics, have tested this and the DBS simply do not work. Paul McGowan from PS Audio do not believe in it either.

you should come listen to a demo of my audioquest cables. Day and night difference. My cheap rca cable will have beautiful stereo sound coming from both speakers with a nice metal build and the audioquest cables will have one side playing because they are so incredibly cheaply made out of all plastic that they get bad connection after plugging them in and out a hand full of times. Seriously don't buy their 'tower' rca cables you will be disappointed the second you get them out of the box.

Is this all "Snake-oil" 🤷‍♂️ Just remember people, your EARS! Not the Person dancing about. Your ears!! Cool video...👍

Seriously I have been told by people whom did lab testing that cables do not give better sound if you pay 10000 or 10$ still companies try to sell us cables all the time so what is the truth?

@quinto34

5 жыл бұрын

the truth is, placebo effect exists, you just have to believe..

@hansfischer6148

5 жыл бұрын

On average, an amplifier delivers a maximum of 1 watt of power to the speakers at room volume. This value can also double for loudspeakers with lower efficiency. The lowest impedance of most loudspeakers is about 3 ohms. At an operating voltage of just under 2 volts, this results in a current flow of 0.6 amperes. For this current flow - and only that counts! - a cable with a cross-section of approx. 0.1mm² (assumed to be 10 meters long) is theoretically sufficient. The cross-section of a human hair would be sufficient for a NF cinch cable! In fact, the acoustic signal in the source device or amplifier does not pass through much larger cross-sections over countless components. Only in the output stage of an amplifier are the cross-sections adapted to the possible current flow. But here, too, the "show" is often exaggerated. In the output stage transistors (I have already sawn up several), i.e. where the entire current flows towards the loudspeaker, wires with a maximum diameter of 0.2mm are used. What good are finger-thick cables afterwards?

@jamiermathlin

4 жыл бұрын

There is a minimum you should not go below, otherwise, your sound quality will fall, but I am talking about $30 cable as a minimum something like 12 or 14SWG, if you wire you $3000 speakers in 50cent bell wire then you will have a noticeable effect, but 100's or even 1000's of dollars for speaker cables is just total nonsense.

How about tweaking the song as best as it sounds for each cable. There’s knobs to twist when frequency’s start to get distorted.🤣 music sounds better to be sure with quality wire.. but after the wire gets you to where your system sings different wire is not BETTER it’s DIFFERENT. Use your ears.

If ANYONE listening to this, on good headphones, and CANNOT HEAR the major improvements in sound - they're either DEAF or LYING! Even through KZread compression the differences are astounding! Now, I do NOT like or agree with their pricing model, but I guess due to low volumes they have to charge that much... wish it was cheaper.

@geoffallen6977

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. You explain yourself why anyone listening doesn’t have a hope of telling any difference, or if there actually is one. I have hd800 and virtually everything sounds terrible on YT. If you are serious then you are simply saying stupid things.

@AudiS4orce1

2 жыл бұрын

@@geoffallen6977 Sure, everything sounds terrible - BUT TWO terribly compressed audio on this video SOUND different and if you can't hear it, check your hearing!

AudioQuest - продаёт змеиное масло за дорого. Разница в звучании не стоит таких денег.

If this wasn't conducted as a hypnosis session but instead a double blind test the answers from the audience to the question which cable sounded best would be no better than guessing. Once attended a demo of a magic jitter removing device. Nine tenths of the audience claimed to hear a significant lift in audio quality when the unit was plugged in. Only problem was that they forgot they had unplugged the unit before the session and never remembered to plug it back in. Essentially both coax cables from the CD drive was connected directly to the DAC... The conjurer of cheap tricks we are watching here just want a piece of the cake by making people buy a little cheaper speakers and then waste their money on his bogus cables. If his cables were so much better, how come ZERO serious loudspeaker manufacturers use them for the internal wiring? Ocham's razor will give you the answer...

19th century snake oil repackaged with copper wire using audio mythology as back drop.

Snake Oil. 100$ fact

A/B testing is NOT valid if the supply the source of the sound and speakers and they do the cable switching over. I can put a little coil and a cap inside that amp and make it come on and off with a relay by remote control by his accomplices and make cables sound different that way. Get the amazing Randy in the case and bye bye Snake oil 😜😜😜

@PursuitPerfectSystem

4 жыл бұрын

Then you take the cables home to demo them hear no difference and dont buy them - then Audioquest have wasted 10's of thousand of euros exhibiting at Munich. There is no scull duggery going on otherwise at home demo stage the critical stage to make a purchase, noone would

@valcomaustralia

4 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem it would be cheaper if the send me one if their super duper cable and a cheap one so I can analyse them in the lab with real equipment 🤔 as how much they spend in a trade show got nothing to do with what they are selling.

@CasusBelli1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@PursuitPerfectSystem so what is you opinion of AQ blatant Fraud : www.realhd-audio.com/?p=5540

This is definitely not the way to make an opinion. This video should have been mounted properly to show a continuous music with changes of cables notified to the auditor. Why this dors not exist ???? I heard Synergistic Core UEF 1 graphene speaker cables (500$ a pair) on Sonus Faber speakers : the cables made a huge difference! A much much more open sound to explain it in short. Why don’t they just make the proper videos to demonstrate them on the net?? Another question would be : is there a big difference in different expensive cables, where « expensive » can be a factor of x100 between them in termes of price? This video answers a bit to this question. Of course cables make a difference, they act like filters, helping more a certain frequency to travel through them. Clearer is not better, just like on photoshop, when you use too much of the « make it crisper » filter on a picture taken with a non crisp lens. I would like to know how much is the minimum to spend to get the biggest improvement on speaker cables as compared to the cheap home depot ones. And then the other axis of comparison after the price would be « brightness » (for analytical listeners) or « musicality » (for people who enjoy more harmony than crispness) probably.

@PursuitPerfectSystem

5 жыл бұрын

this video was made adhoc on the spur moment the moment at a hifi show. The fact I am able to make them at this quality given the condition and 0 preparation is actually a feat of hard work and skill beyond what you realise has to happen. Imagine trying to gold 6+kg worth of camera equipment still for a 30+ minute presentation try and capture the best video and audio on your own. It's a serious task that noone else gets anywhere close to capturing things like I do. This is also a set presentation where people came to hear Garth speak

Sales pitch marketing. If you spend that kind of money, do yourself a huge failure, invest in acoustical room treatment instead. Standing waves and sound pressure refections and absorption are your worst aberrations that affects the purity of any audible sounds. Those expensive Audioquest cables are a waste of money. When there's money to collect from the naive, the snake oil promotions come out of the woodwork.

@gonzol46

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha no they are not, you most be deaf with that statement……..🥱

23:40 30:50 actually sound different. the first has some boominess in sound... 24:26 27:56 31:37 there is a difference. well, it's quite expensive...Send me ones for free. I will send you a kiss. Ok, two kisses.

@iRmazz96

4 жыл бұрын

people talking over invalidate any kind of comparison...

What is this crap?Then why won't a wifi signal or a bluetooth pass through a wall and it will pass an equipment shield???

@hoorayforyoutoob

5 жыл бұрын

Um... Bluetooth and especially wifi does pass through walls. Thankfully. Perfectly? No, but they certainly do.

Demo in a room with so much reverb my ears hurt. Listen to the presenters voice!! 3:15

Don't spend All your money on speakercables its not worth it. Their is no reason to spend thousands of dollars on that, better to spend that amount of money on the speakers and room becouse that is what makes the Biggest difference, then the amp, and then they source, the cables is last thing you need to upgrade a Cable for $100 is more than enough for most systems.

@oysteinsoreide4323

5 жыл бұрын

But thick and short speaker cable is good, even if you have less than ideal room. You will hear a clear difference. Especially the clearness of the transients, and the more controlled bass. You can't ignore speaker cables or power cables, even if the rest of the world is not perfect. Of course the room is important. But so is everything else.

@andreasmoller9798

5 жыл бұрын

Oystein Soreide of course. I have a pretty think cable. I would not have to switch it out to a more expensive cable. It dosent make that a big of difference. The room and speakers are far more important and so is the amp. And instead of spending thousands of dollars on cables i can upgrade to a better amp or speakers instead. That would make Much more difference than spending $3000 on a speaker cable

@oysteinsoreide4323

5 жыл бұрын

@@andreasmoller9798 I totally agree that you should not spend a fortune on speaker cables. I guess the insanely expensive ones are better than the cheaper ones. But it is better to buy reasonably priced ones, and rather buy new ones every five to ten years to make up for the corrosion.

@andreasmoller9798

5 жыл бұрын

Oystein Soreide i had to switch My old speaker cables out they was 10 years old. First i thought there was something wrong with speakers, but with new cables the problem was gone

@oysteinsoreide4323

5 жыл бұрын

@@andreasmoller9798 Especially at the ends, cables tend to corrode. Actually I think I have read somewhere that you should make the ends a bit shorter each month or two, so you get fresh uncorroded copper at the contact points. I don't do that, but it might be worth a try.