Thank you for this video. Its answered the question I've been trying to find answers to for the past week or so. Keep up the great work!

great job guys, you know what your doing!

Hello! thanks for this video, it helps me a lot. More power to you.

You are correct with your comment on proper gain structure settings; the issue is with setting (and maintaining) proper levels of the EQ. Running the EQ as an insert or inline becomes a personal choice and can depend on how the sound system is used (i.e. for a single band in a bar or for multiple bands at a festival/bar). The greater amount of gain structure changes before the FOH EQ can equate to further changes with the FOH EQ. The goal is to reduce the potential FOH EQ changes.

Cool stuff ! Thanks man !

great video

Thanks for the feedback. If you are running a stereo FOH mix, then you would want to run another EQ as an insert from the R FOH insert. The video shows a mono FOH mix. The choice of running FOH in stereo or mono can depend on the event needs/requirements. FOH doesn't need to be run in stereo, mono can work very well.

Correct. Pan all channels to either L or R depending on preference. However, if you are using subgroups, pan the individual channels as you normally would for assigning to subgroups, then pan all the subgroups to either L or R. When running mono, you can use both sides of a xover (using a Y cable like you mentioned). But, you can also use just one side of the xover (depending if your amps support parallel connections and provide "pass-through". If not, you may need to use both sides).

Yes, it is common to add small mixers to larger systems to provide sub-mixing. The EQ can be added as an insert to the channel you use for the sub-mixer on the church system. However, make sure the sub-mixer mic levels are kept around 0db and the main output on the sub-mixer shouldn't be above 0db

Superb sir thankyou.a butifull presentation.helped me loads.Steve from the UK.keep IP the superb work sir.

@stageleftaudio

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment!

This was very helpful thanks

Relativity speaking, stereo FOH works well in small venues and when instruments use effects such as 2-channel phasing/flangers, or heavy chorus on vocals. In larger venues, stereo doesn't work too well because what comes out of one side of FOH, the crowd on the other side of the stage may not be able to hear it (and vice/versa). Running mono provides the same signal to both sides of FOH. 99% of all shows I do are mono. Some people run subs in mono and mid/highs in stereo.

so many things to learn

thanx for the video

Running FOH eq, inline. On monitors, inserted. Heres why: When mixing FOH, I tend to use my headphones for pfl/soloing/etc. Often times I'll listen to different mixes (balcony fills, etc) and I don't want to hear the eq processing, as generally, how it sounds in my cans, its eq'd to sound the same from the speaker (otherwise, whats the point in having a reference monitor-headphones if it sounds completely different). Doing monitors, generally you use a cue wedge rather than headphones (although handy to have around), and you do want to hear the processing, otherwise your hearing a non processed mix that doesn't sound the same.

at last a video you can learn something from Thanks Neil UK

This is great for FOH, could you show how do the same thing for stage monitors, which are ran through a aux send.............Thanks a lot

sorry, it's the Zed 10fx. do i plug it into the "main mix insert L and main mix insert R" under the Main Mix out L and R? does that produce good sounds for Karaoke?

Thanks for responding that's useful to know. Would you mind giving an example of when you use mono or stereo in a live situation. Many thanks

Amazing

I guess everyone has"their own poison".I 've always had good results using Altec 729A's at the FOH output and on my two monitor mixes.Did a 6piece southern rock band for a loong time with that as a setup.With 24 bands of cut I never had a problem and never really gave a rat's *** for anything on an insert basis except for using some effects a particular band member wanted.with my two Siamesed Altec 1220AC's and a couple of dynacord echocords I was loud n proud.Actually used HeThkit AA-1640's for power! Ran them both sides at 4 with just a small blower on the top of the rack. EQ needs to be done with à very judicious hand.Anything needing more than a 9db cut is a problem somewhere.Move a Mic,different Mic,change the TYPE of mic.You know what I mean.Listen to you system.Play something you are intimately familiar with through it. Then Listen.Don't just hear,Listen to it.It will give you clues what to do .

I'm working on that.

So can I connect a eq to a 8 channel mixer I use to daisy chain to my church system why I do this is it gives the comfort to add mics and also let my do my mix on my drums but i want it for all four.mics do I put in the insert of the first channel

WOAH! SO MANY KNOBS AND SLIDERS!!

@vinayakrathod5120

6 жыл бұрын

Blake Kersey

nice

I've recently bought the DBX 1066 compressor and DBX 2231 eq to use with the Zed 10fx. What's the best way to set this up for karaoke? Currently, i have the Main mixer insert L/R(below the Main Mix Out L/R) connects Tip to the EQ then out to the Compressor then Ring back to the Mixer. Mine doesn't have the "insert" for each channels. Will this make the vocals sound worst?

@stageleftaudio

9 жыл бұрын

Kent Nguyen I'm not sure about Karaoke, we do only live sound. Though, you may want to use the compressor as a "safety net" for large signals spikes. Recorded music is already highly compressed, that you may not want to use a compressor on it.

Hello, I am so glad I found your channel. I am currently in a dilemma. I am a singer but became an impromptu sound guy in church. I have been getting by for about a year now and learning here and there. We have a pretty large space that can accommodate 600+ persons. Our setup comprises of a 24 channel mixing board, 4 amps, 4 mid range speakers, 2 double subs, 8 side fill speakers, 1 pair of active stage monitor. We have a 2 channel 32 band dbx eq connected to the mains (midrange and sub), 1 cross over, and a compressor we don't use. I often have to deal with my highs (tweets) blowing up. The side fill speakers are connected to Aux 3 & 4, Stage monitors Aux 1, headset mixer Aux 2. What's the best way to connect the EQ. Going by your explanation, the current setup is inline. How can I change this to insert? How do I stop my highs from blowing out. Also my midrange and subs which are connected to the EQ sound terrible. While the side fills sound great.

@stageleftaudio

4 жыл бұрын

If you are blowing up the highs, this is due to far too many watts being pushed to those speakers. In a 2/3-way setup, the mid/high speakers should only be powered with amplifiers rated for the continuous wattage of the speakers being used. Burning up highs is very common when too much power is being fed to them. To run the EQ as a FOH insert, there needs to be an "Insert" jack on the mixing console at the main outputs of the console. They should be marked as "Insert". A special "Insert" cable is needed to run outboard gear as an insert. These cables look like " Y " cables, but are wired differently than a " Y " cable. if your board does not have an "insert" jack, you will not be able patch the EQ as in insert. To stop blowing up the highs, only use an amplifier rated at the continuous power of the highs. Make sure the crossover settings are correct for the speakers you are using. A FOH EQ should only be used to correct small issues with the FOH sound, it should never be used as the primary tone control of the sound system. If your midrange and subs sound terrible, it's usually due to how the instrument input channel strip(s) are setup - for example: think of the instruments that would use the subs... check those input channel strips and make sure those are setup correctly. Most all sound related issues are due to incorrect channel settings (gain, EQ, HP filters, etc...), then, incorrect crossover settings, gain structure... There's a lot of variables involved with getting good sound; the EQ is a small part of that.

Am I correct in assuming that if we were to run our FOH in mono we pan all of the channels on our mixing desk to the left/right depending on which channel we are using? We have exactly the same mixing desk as you so plan to try mono on FOH which is great one less cable to worry about and then at the amp rack we will have a Y split cable taking the single XLR input to our left and right input on our crossover?

Hi in the video you inserted the EQ on one side of the main output only. I assume in a live situation you would use both left and right inserts so you have EQ on left and right? Great videos by the way :-)

Thanks for your video. What is the optimal way of running an EQ as FOH insert or inline insert for cutting feedback? Please help me. Thanks

@stageleftaudio

6 жыл бұрын

Due to all the potential variations in halls, event locations, speaker placements, number of people, type of music played, etc... there is no optimal way of running a FOH EQ. Though, the FOH EQ settings should always start out flat ( -0- ). FOH EQ is to correct minor issues. It is rare to have feedback issues caused by FOH. If FOH feedback occurs, it usually means one or more mics are too hot (to much gain), or the FOH speakers are too far back into the performance area (FOH speakers should always be well forward of the "front line" of the bands. Running the EQ in-line provides for more control and less "issues with gain" down the signal path. An example of a FOH EQ setting would be to lower the frequency of 120hz by about 6db to correct for the 120hz bump that occurs when using a crossover at 120hz.

very good info. my mixer have two main insert. do you know if theyre consider FOH insert or in line?

@stageleftaudio

8 жыл бұрын

+changievangie If your mixer has the word "insert" next to the main inserts, those connections are actual inserts; and not outputs. Some mixers have insert points for their main outputs; others do not. I recommend checking the manual to see what it indicates as those inserts are.

I have a question, Im making my own sound, but what goes first and in what order, I have a 31 channels eq, a crossover, a feedback destroyer, and a compressor, can some one tell me,Thanks.

No power when switch is turned on any help ?

hi, nice vid, 1 question i have, when live mixing, eq, comp and effets to kick,tom, vox, snare hi hats are different, soto have diffrent eq and comp, do i need to have multiple externel eq,comp for each chnnel to kick, tom, snare, hi hats,tom, vox????

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

Same response from the other reply: It's up to you if you want to have multiple external processors; though, they are certainly not needed. Having a lot of processors would require a lot of work to get them tuned for each instrument, and could require a lot of rack space. If you were recording, then maybe you would need that level of control. But for live sound, it's not needed. However, for some digital consoles, you may have to assign compression/gate/EQ to each channel because some digital consoles do not have subgroups.

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what should I eq first? speakers (graphic eq's) or voices,instruments(in the mixer)? active speakers sometimes have a high and low eq on them, should I set them in the middle? if not, should I eq it before or after I set everything else?. Sorry for making so many questions but I really want to know.

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

Do not apply any EQ on the active speakers; they should be set flat. And remember, EQ is primarily used to correct tonal quality issues, meaning, you should apply EQ cuts to frequencies before you apply EQ boosts. When using EQ, start with channel EQ first (cuts or boosts) for whatever vocal/instrument in on that channel, then move to the graphical EQ. The graphic EQ, (if at all) should be the last to set.

@ismsm2619

6 жыл бұрын

stageleftaudio , Can i apply EQ to active stage Monitor???

which equalizer is good behringer or dbx. pls suggest me anyone.

How to set up FOH ? USING MIXER ,EQ,COMPRESSOR ?

Big Thanks for sharring this. I Got question : i have a yamaha MGP32X as mixer and i would have to use External EQ for Drums mic only et send back the EQ Signal to the mixer, So, how can I do this??? I have on mixer : 4 groups output, 1 stéréo.insert( R&L), 6 Aux send, 00no insert groupe, No AUX return.

@stageleftaudio

6 жыл бұрын

If you are using only 1 mic for the drum kit, you can place an EQ in the "insert" point of that drum mic channel. You will need a special cable designed for "insert" use. Basically, one side of an insert cable is the send, and the other side is the return. Using an insert, you can apply the EQ at the channel. If you are using more than one mic for you drum kit, route all the mics to one of the subgroups (i.e. subgroup 2). Then connect a cable from the subgroup output and route to the input of the EQ. Then, from the output of the EQ back to a channel on the board. This will give you EQ over all the mics; though, the channel you use for the input from your EQ will be your "master" input for the drums. Leave this fader at -0- db when mixing.

@ismsm2619

6 жыл бұрын

stageleftaudio BIG BIG BOG THANKS for this help. But i have one more question regarding what you said: case with multi drum mic, You said from EQ OUTPUT connect to a chanel of mixer. My question is : Wich chanel( mono or stereo? ) and if is mono, on 16 Chanel Available, i have to chose anyone to route signal into the mixer???

@stageleftaudio

6 жыл бұрын

You can connect to either type of channel. Mono channels usually offer better control than stereo channels. It doesn't matter which mono channel you use. However, you can connect to one side of a stereo channel (usually the Left side). Stereo is ok, but may not have the same control as a mono channel.

@ismsm2619

6 жыл бұрын

stageleftaudio So HAPPY for Help. Again Big Thanks!!

If the EQ is plugged in to the main output insert, would i connect my powered speakers to the EQ? If so, what would control the volume level of the speakers?

@stageleftaudio

4 жыл бұрын

If you are connecting the EQ as an inline EQ, then yes, you would run an XLR cable from the output of the EQ to the input of the powered speaker(s). The volume level for the powered speaker would still be controlled by the console (and some by the EQ). Placing an EQ between the console and the speakers does work, however, more work is needed to ensure the EQ doesn't get overloaded.

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Just to confirm, if the eq is inserted, can you still control the overall volume with the mains sliders? And, can you still use the main output plugs? Is so, why would you need to use the main outputs? Thank you

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, the FOH volume would still be controlled by the main faders. The main FOH outputs would still need to be used to send the FOH signal to the amplifiers (or xover - depending on your setup); therefor, the main outputs would still be needed.

@grazen321

7 жыл бұрын

stageleftaudio thank you, I understand! I have subscribed to you and watched half of your videos last night until 2am. Thank you for putting out quality, clear content. I hope to start a small sound business in the near future (in Australia) for small speaking events and small bands. These videos are very helpful. Keep up the good work!

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comments, and good luck!

HOW TO USE LEXICON SOUND PROCESSORS. do u have any video tutorial of it

@stageleftaudio

6 жыл бұрын

We don't have a tutorial specifically for the Lexicon units, however, we do have a video (on our channel) that shows how to patch effects into a mixing console (analog). The effects unit in the video is a Lexicon MX200.

where do i plug in the eq for FOH setup on the Zed 12fx?

@stageleftaudio

9 жыл бұрын

Kent Nguyen Try the "insert" points next to the main FOH output.

If you paid for a professional balanced EQ don't use it unbalanced. It may have an unbalanced option to expand the sales market but it was designed for stronger signals. You would have to max out your mixer to clip a good balanced EQ inline. His EQ meter when used as an insert shows way below optimum signal level.

Please what cable would you rather use for your EQ as your main FOH insert. Y cable???

@stageleftaudio

2 жыл бұрын

It would not be a "Y" cable. The cable to use (that looks like a "Y", but is not), is called an "insert" cable. The "send" signal for the cable travels down one side of the "Y", and the "return" signal comes back on the other side of the "Y". These cables are called "insert cables".

@ayubabarnabasliman8281

2 жыл бұрын

@@stageleftaudio thank you. I would appreciate a picture for clarity.

@stageleftaudio

2 жыл бұрын

Type something like "audio insert cable" into google... it will show pictures and descriptions of an insert cable. Most any music store should carry "insert cables".

Sir need your advice... my equalizer is inline into the mixer FOH and i want to add the digitech dsp 256 the problem is i have difficulties where it to connect. Which comes first after the Output FOH Eq to dsp. Or dsp first before eq?

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

If the DSP is going to be used as a crossover, it should be placed after the EQ. If the DSP is going to be used to compress or limit signals, it should be placed before the EQ. If your board supports "inserts" on the FOH outputs, place the EQ in one of the inserts (or both if you are running stereo), then you can place the DSP in line with the main FOH outputs. This way, you get the benefit of the EQ and DSP without having the levels of the EQ greatly affecting the DSP.

@krismark5052

5 жыл бұрын

@@stageleftaudio thanks sir for very informative and expert advice from you. That is what i used for now eq to dsp.Im confused with my analogue mixer it is only one INSERT which is mono, beside of FOH but the whole system FOH output is stereo. If i use the mono INSERT for an Eq can AFFECT the whole system stereo FOH? Another thing sir pleas forgive me of many question.. do you have videos on how to set DBX 166XL for FOH.😂😂😂

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

With one FOH insert on mono, it doesn't sound like that would extend to the L/R FOH (whole system) outputs. It's probably best to keep the DSP and EQ inline where you have them. If you are using your console for live music, there shouldn't be too much of any FOH EQ being used (except for freq. cuts mostly, and maybe some additions). Sorry, we do not have any videos for the 166XL. Most people, when using the 166XL on FOH, will use the unit as a whole system compressor/limiter. Basically, it's being used to protect the whole system. Depending on your console, you may actually get better use out of the 166XL using it for vocals or for drums.

@krismark5052

5 жыл бұрын

@@stageleftaudio thank you so much. Sorry for my grammar.

can i connect the output from eq to an active speaker direclty

@stageleftaudio

6 жыл бұрын

You probably can, but it may not give good (or correct) results. Many EQs can be very noisy; this will propagate to your powered speaker.

Sliders are those greasy little burgers from White Castle. Turned this off after two minutes after hearing "sliders" about five times.

@MitsaelT

6 жыл бұрын

Dave Scarlett sucks for you brother, different people say things in many different ways.

@soundfreak8892

6 жыл бұрын

yep there called Faders lol.....

@Ifyouonlyknewtruth

5 жыл бұрын

I understand sliders they slide up and down on the board . A singer once told me his mike sounded dry during a sound check . I had no idea how to make it sound wetter . Now that’s bad terminology for a sound man to have to deal with.

I have a peavey fx24 mixer I also have an external 31 band eq I want to run the eq through the main inserts for FOH. I know it has a built in eq and effects on the board. the screen size is just to small. I have 2 Pro Co 5' IPBQ2Q-5, 1/4" TRS to (2) 1/4" TS Insert Cable, On the back of the mixer There are 4 inserts below them are 4 group inserts.Above the 4 inserts it says (output) I have all the internal eq and effects turned off. Can I use the external eq at the insert connection or group insert for FOH?

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

On that mixer, I believe the inserts you see are for the sub-groups only. It doesn't appear there are inserts for the FOH outputs. You can try running the EQ in-line with the FOH outputs if you think you need EQ on FOH. You can run the EQ off one of the group inserts, though, this will only provide EQ for whatever the channels are you have assigned to that subgroup.

@danieldrivon3909

5 жыл бұрын

@@stageleftaudio I did it in line but it affects the eq level since the main lever faders are wearing out there not at 0. If the group fader works I have 4 groups 1 is voice 2 is inst 3-4 are open. If I put 1 ch on the first group and the 2nd ch on the 2nd group I should not have worry about the main level faders changing the eq level. I have a Behringer 6200HD EQ. thx Dan

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, the group faders will work just as you have indicated.

wish some musos would watch this... im sick of trying to tell so called sound guys that have been doing it for years who have the damn EQ set like a sine wave at every gig regardless..

i see if you use the EQ in the Outputline you only alligned a -dB on each Edge Band on the EQ. That provides you from distroying your Speakers and lower the Noise in the Outputway to your PA. (The Noise is coming from your EQ Band Amplifires) The Soundregulation only will be made on the Stagemixer or after this littel Corrections on the Mixer itself but never more on the EQ! Your Soundallignment must be made everytime nearest to the Soundsource (on the Musicans Guitar and/or Amp - don't allow your Musican that he/she alling the Equiment by him/herself!!!!) and now later in the line of your Audiosystem. This saves you from Noise etc.

@TempoDrift1480

2 жыл бұрын

I can't tell if you are saying to run in line or not to run in line.

Can I insert graphic EQs into vocal channels?

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. However, depending on the EQ and if you are boosting frequencies, an EQ can introduce noise into that channel, of which that noise would then be amplified.

The behaviour of the EQ does not change depending on the signal level passing through it. Please attempt to measure this supposed effect, you will not be able to. There will be some improvement in terms of signal to noise ratio from keeping higher signal levels through the equipment, as with any equipment, but there will be no change in the EQing effect.

I change my question sir,just doubt,what is the difference between 12", 15", 18" speakers but the same power and impedance thanks again

@stageleftaudio

8 жыл бұрын

+julito Balongcas Jr. Assuming everything about the speakers is the same, the larger the speaker size, the more air that speaker can move. Basically (and without getting into the math/physics), larger speakers can exhibit better bass response.

@julitobalongcasjr.9148

8 жыл бұрын

+stageleftaudio thanks sir,I learn a lot on your video,and because of the culture in my country,sometimes have a battle of the sound,

@stageleftaudio

8 жыл бұрын

+julito Balongcas Jr. You are welcome. Thanks for watching.

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What ozwzrd said...

so how do i get good and clear sound using this eq what setting will i use

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

A good clear sound comes from the instrument and microphone. An EQ is used to correct sound quality issues. There is no single setting that will make the sound good and clear. This is because there's a large variety of different types of mics, speakers, consoles, amplifiers, instruments, etc... not one single setting on an EQ can accommodate all these different things.

@TheDrummer232323

5 жыл бұрын

@@stageleftaudio oh i see because im a begginer on setting up

@TheDrummer232323

5 жыл бұрын

i have active speakers dual equalizer 31 band digital mixer 12 channels is is enough for use in church? do i need crosover? and limiter?

@stageleftaudio

5 жыл бұрын

What you have may be enough. There's a lot of variables with determining how large of a sound system is needed. You only need a crossover if you are bi-amp (or tri-amping) your system; from what you indicated you are using, you will not be able to use a crossover. A limiter is only needed to keep the speakers from getting damaged. Your active speakers may already have limiters on them.

@TheDrummer232323

5 жыл бұрын

oh i see i will.try first and watch your video setup :) thank you so much hope you can subscribe to my channel too 😊😊😊

What about if you haven't got a crossover?

@stageleftaudio

8 жыл бұрын

This setup works independently of a crossover.

@eralar

6 жыл бұрын

I run my sub rig from an Aux Send on my console. My digital console has 31 band graphic eq's on all Aux Sends, as well as the Master Output. So for my sub's.. I remove all frequencies above 100 hz. That way, nothing but low frequencies go to that rig. I also remove everything below 100 hz from the main rigs.. nothing high in the subs.. nothing low in the mains... no crossover.

can i use aux to eq the FOH?

@stageleftaudio

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not aware of a method to do that. However, with the routing capabilities on most boards, there's probably a way to route signals around.

Your audience would benefit from properly terminology.... Please refrain from using the term "slider". It is a fader.

@gamesta527

9 жыл бұрын

This is hard for me to listen to...

@forgottenuploads

5 жыл бұрын

Oh man, when he pointed at the fader and called it a slider, I just lost all mental capacity. Fuck i couldn't figure that out until I saw this comment, you goddamn genius.

انا عربي ومشكله البيز مشكله عويصه ومش فاهم حاجه من الفيديو لاني جربت كده طلع العيب في الكبلات ممكن حد عربي يفهمني الموضوع ده ازاي

@stageleftaudio

9 жыл бұрын

mazen maram أنا آسف، أنا لا أفهم العربية بشكل جيد.

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If you run your system properly gain-staged, there will be NO APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE in the performance of a properly functioning EQ whether it is inserted or in-line. I'm not going to say you're incorrect, but this is very misleading. No....I'm going to say it. You're wrong on this point.

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