It has been brought to my attention that I have given terrible advice for how to properly discharge a CRT. If you are attempting this project, please refer to the following video by Mike the Scrapper on how to do it safely: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aJh1r8qqp7qop8o.html

@johndoe-xu1on

6 жыл бұрын

Your video needs an audio amplifier

@RinksRides

6 жыл бұрын

...also its the fucking tube that acts as a HV capacitor, not the flyback transformer. Just sayin. And FFS do moar homework before posting a vijeo like this, how many kids watch this and just think it's ok to go poking about inside one of these like you did?!

@cindyskoien-shiell391

6 жыл бұрын

ClevelandStorms

@tonygall5580

6 жыл бұрын

ClevelandStorms so if that makes all together 20 watts if you were to double or even triple on a few parts you could theoretically make one with the same size board and have it pushing out 60 watts no problem. correct?

@trustnoone3795

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm definitely glad someone pointed this out to you. After being an electronic repair tech for around 40 years, I've seen others as well as been ''popped'' by this lead and/or the CRT when attempting to disconnect it myself. Although the newer TVs bled off that HV fairly well, they could still hold a charge. From experience I can tell you that this ''POP'' can be very painful. I won't even get into the old tube type TVs. Make sure that screwdriver is grounded before you attempt to take the cup & lead loose. A jumper with alligator clips works well. Also, it's good practice to do it with 1 hand. stick your other hand in your pocket while doing this. Other things that can really pop you are those electrolytic capacitors. Particularly those with a high capacitance rating (mfd or uf --microfarad amount). It's best to short the leads of these capacitors on the bottom of the board with a screwdriver as well. It's just better to be safe than hurting & almost afraid to continue with your project.

Being an old TV repairman I can tell you it's the picture tube that holds the hi voltage charge, not the flyback cable when it's unattached. Ive used amps out of TV's like that before, but I just sawed out the circuit from the motherboard and used it as an already built amp circuit

The irony of a video about amplifying audio sound being barely loud enough to hear isn't lost on me. Well done, bro.

I think you need that audio amplifier for your camera, I can barely hear you.

@jukejik3241

7 жыл бұрын

me to

@dhrsabit

7 жыл бұрын

lol

@MIW_Renegade

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@bradhabit2217

6 жыл бұрын

t0nito, I don't think using this amplifier on the camera microphone would produce the results you desire.

@user-eb3pp3gv1i

6 жыл бұрын

MMMMEEEE TTTTOOOO000!!!

I turned the volume of the video all the way up and forgot about it, then I clicked on another video and my ear drums exploded. (Typing this from hospital)

@andresmacias5968

7 жыл бұрын

Maniac BehindYou 😂

Some older TVs from 70s and 80s are modular and they have separate audio amplifier board. I use one for powering my horn speakers.

DUDE WOW!!!!! I don’t know why I’ve been reheating and removing things with my iron one prong at a time when there is a perfectly good torch that does it faster cleaner and amazingly pleasant to experience. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Cool project, although first time I see desoldering with a torch - seems to work well though....

Thank you for sharing. Embarrassed that I never thought of using propane to get the parts off easily. I'm watching this video because I took apart a widescreen CRT TV that nobody wanted to get some heat sinks and discovered some large speakers with bass enhancing enclosures similar to Bose. This gives me inspiration.

So good! Appreciate worthwhile reuse. Thanks

Nice job. Competently done too, loved it. Put the amp in a small box with a couple of connectors for power supply and speakers and inputs and you have a usable stereo amp for small things.

Great video. Glad to see Cleveland hobbyist

I leave it on the board and cut it out with tin snips...I cut around the area of the amp chip and caps....then find out how to wire it...it is already made into a circuit so just leave it there...

Most tdaxxxx chips are audio amps of some sort. The 2030, 2003, 2002, 2050 are for guitar amps particularly. Awesome build.

nice review /fist of all ,don t buy from ebay -they look the same bat are cheap clones(heating very fast and up)the original one like this are gold if you know how to configure it.enyway ,nice project .i did once a amp from an old tda 2020...

Interesting video. I heard it fine. Thanks for sharing.

very cool. and i have a bunch of old tv's I'm about to scrap out and I've been looking for a way to use the audio out of them. i guess i should just dive in and start pulling them apart and setting the pieces aside for future use.

not all TV's will have a vertical audio OpAmp, depending upon the make and model of TV may have a dual in line package chip, a TDA2822 for instance. which is an 8 pin DIP package chip. All components to make the amplifier work WILL BE ON THE BOARD. But you will need to take a look at the datasheet as this video says to get an example circuit. Recycling from broken and unused electrical items is always fun. My whole channel is devoted to the same ethos. If you do some simple maths and some research about each of the components you can make some really useful things for absolutely no money whatsoever. GREAT VIDEO! KEEP EM COMING.

Cool project

The flyback is my favorite part!

Used the TDA2009A quite some years ago, and it is pretty reasonable in terms of sound quality, and also has some power. Even made an amplifier around it, that also used a LM1036 for volume, balance and tone control. It was capable of driving 4Ω loads with ease. Unfortunately, it is now obsolete.

Nice scrap build. Nice to see a young person interested in electronics. Be careful what you advise about high voltage. you were wrong about the wire holding a charge ,it's the tube. Also before messing with the TV, use a hammer to crack the neck back by the pins. Just a gentle tap and you will hear the air rush in. That will eliminate the danger of the tube imploding and causing injury.

Cool video besides your mic levels. To the haters on here., He never said it was practical or top of the line. It's a learning project made with salvaged parts. Make a video yourself if you can do better.

The quoted 10 watts is only available at the high voltage and that is at 10% distortion in other words clipping. At 12 volts pre clipping you will be lucky to get 3 watts. At higher voltages you will also need a heat sink.

@tyronenelson9124

6 жыл бұрын

The TDA2009 should have a minimum supply voltage of 24 volts dc as a standard voltage for amplifiers in televisions, even in the flat panel lcd tv's

@madjidhamdini8114

6 жыл бұрын

tda 2003 / 2004 AND 2009 are good to create noisy amplifier if used on bridge ;)my first DIY amplifier was a stereo use 2X 2 tda bridged for 2X 18 true WATTS :)

@lancestrahm2362

6 жыл бұрын

You all just mind fucked me

@MarkTillotson

6 жыл бұрын

The TDA2009A used bridged makes a passable ELF radio output section too, as its good to several 100kHz...

That's doable on an old car cassette player too. Great video 👍

That's cool! It would make a cool little battery powered guitar amp!

your talking about the audio amplifier,I think you need that amplifier inside the tv to amplify your audio in your camera,we can't hear you,but don't worry i used my class ab amplifier to my lap top to hear your good and best explanation..God bless us.

So cool!

Excellent video dude!!

Good tutorial. Now there is a gold mine of electronical parts for tinkerers, with all the free curbside and junkyard crt tvs

Nice brother! Thank you . How about the transformer? Why not 120 volt and a real set of speakers/?

Please give the list of audio amplifier ics mostly used in CRT TVs

you're right dude ^^ i've buildin sévérals amplifier with ic like TDA LM and co from old tv or old car radios and all work very well ^^ but i like to build amplifiers with a couple of darlington power transistor (TIP 142/147) one couple capable of + 150 watts and if used a double/triple push pull ,you have a monster like 500 watts and very cheap to make /reliable very easy :) good video thks

Damn awesome

i always corious about amplifiers in tv, some of speakers are really good for their sizes

nice video

PERFECT PROJECT TO BUILD. THAN MAYBE WE COULD HEAR YOU!!!

Parts harvesting at its finest. That is great.

@CleavelandStorms Question... why not just cut the section that contains the audio components out, that way they remain soldered?

i have an old mini HiFi Sony tat has a great quality of sound, te amplifier is still good but te buttons and the desk tape and the cd player and the radio are broken... can you make us a video of how to extract the amplifier part from it... i will be really thankful

@xaenon

7 жыл бұрын

It would be the same basic procedure. Look for the same type of chip he discusses, verify it with a google search, and pull it from the board. I wouldn't recommend using a blow torch, as he did, unless you're skilled with it. For beginners, a soldering iron and desolder wick does just fine, and is a lot safer.

I pulled apart a speaker/power bank combo device because I lost the original charger and fried it trying to charge it. Pulled it apart and there was a huge lithium ion battery, two boards inside a plastic part and two flexible wires going to the speaker on the other end. I separated the two boards and one was the amplifier. Found the two power points and got it working. The amp seems to be happy at around 3 volts. I'm going to try 4.5 from batteries. I'm going to make an enclosure out of something. and use the battery and guts from a small power bank to make a new amp and power bank. Yeah I know it was a power bank originally.

Really hope you think about re uploading this with improved audio or remaking it. Great video man

Thanks for showing this project. Still have to buy PCB board, audio plug .Only thing is you can buy such audio amp boards cheap in eBay. Don't know if they are as good. Please post your suppliers' links in your commentary below the video along with the ID of the components you used. It would help us. Can you connect both audio channels together to one speaker? If so how?

The screeching sound is the TDA2009A when connected to a high impedance input - it doesn't like it. Phones save power by switching off their audio output sections which leaves outputs floating at high impedance. Once the phone is pushing out a signal the TDA2009 will be stable.

+1 on the propane torch. You can hold the circuit board over a cardboard box and whack the board against the box as you heat it. Lotsa parts!

You'll need to add a heat sink to that chip if you don't want to burn it out. It might not have had one in the TV, but from experience those chips get hot fast.

I scrapped old tv with audio amplifier TDA1519B , would u plz demonstrate how to make audio amplifier with this IC

its not the ht cable that holds the charge its the crt its self

@neilfroggycrompton2466

7 жыл бұрын

Simon Smith tv isnt grounded unless its plugged in too :)

@childishtombino1275

7 жыл бұрын

neil froggy crompton Not unless the TV's Cable is 3-core!

@neilfroggycrompton2466

7 жыл бұрын

Mr.Someone \Tom/ yes thats my point vid says u can short out lead to gnd but if theres no gnd in pwr wire ur dicing with death as high voltage was mentioned right?

@childishtombino1275

7 жыл бұрын

neil froggy crompton Absolutely.

@neilfroggycrompton2466

7 жыл бұрын

Mr.Someone \Tom/ i once opened up a phillips vga comp monitor when it stopped working, couldnt fix it so butchered it for parts (as i had identical 2nd one) & remember ripping out that lead. my question is how long would residual pwr be in the crt?,as monitor sat on the floor for about 6 months+ . could it have discharged while left unused?

Thank u for video sir.i thought of same idea

Nice vid bud

Just tracing the speaker cable can reveal the audio chip. Most easiest method.

@MIW_Renegade

6 жыл бұрын

Ura Nium sometimes it’s not as easy

@ardwenome2230

6 жыл бұрын

agreed sometimes its not that easy but following the tracks from speaker connection on the PCB will almost certainty lead you to the audio OpAmp. sometimes its a bit tricky but you will almost always be able to find what you are looking for.

Hey bud, been watching your videos for a while. Love the ones about the joule thief drivers you built. I was curious, are you in school for electrical engineering? I'm wondering what you do that gives you such a fantastic knowledge base.

,pretty Kool salvageing trick very fast way to harvest parts or components Might be but difficult if things were in tighter spaces but nice trick thank you

What can you do with TPDV1240??plz help!!!

Could this be used to amplify headphones? how much power does this output?

Would it also work with a tube tv?

How many of those chips can go on a board?

Order them off Ebay for $2.38 and not have to lug the TV around. Just makes more sense on cost vs time, and alot easier to access.

@Jash_Medathana

6 жыл бұрын

Random Audio Guy What is the product called as?

Why on the schematic does R5 say 1 ohm and then R6 says 10 ohm, should these values not be the same?

Wow 10watts . Where the next club jam at lol.

here in my country(Philippines) this tv's are still commonly used!!

The propane torch to quickly heat up all 9 pins is a smart idea

Very interesting...Thank you...Great vid... : )

Shocking in more ways than one

Daaamn that's a Nexus 6

why didn't you just hack off the amplifier section and re wire power supply and audio outputs! that could be easier, just thinking :)

@gerrodphillips2471

7 жыл бұрын

Bleau sound like you don't no what the fuck your talking about

@dominicfernandes4877

6 жыл бұрын

Bleau is absolutely right Gerrod. Nothing wrong in that

@teun7923

5 жыл бұрын

@@gerrodphillips2471 Sounds like you don't ;)

@trustnoone3795

5 жыл бұрын

Just because he found the audio IC & it's associated components does not mean there may have been sections of additional circuits running through that area. Years ago, I had a Zenith Systems 3 TV that had plug in modules for different circuits. This TV developed an extremely loud, high pitched squeal from the speaker which the volume control had no affect on. It happened that the audio board also had the horizontal oscillator circuit on the same board. A component that isolated the circuits shorted out causing the frequency of the oscillator to become amplified to the extreme. It was so loud, it was annoying to people who lived across the street. Therefore, just because you think you've isolated all you need, do not take it for granted.

@trustnoone3795

5 жыл бұрын

Just because he found the audio IC & it's associated components does not mean there may have been sections of additional circuits running through that area. Years ago, I had a Zenith Systems 3 TV that had plug in modules for different circuits. This TV developed an extremely loud, high pitched squeal from the speaker which the volume control had no affect on. It happened that the audio board also had the horizontal oscillator circuit on the same board. A component that isolated the circuits shorted out causing the frequency of the oscillator to become amplified to the extreme. It was so loud, it was annoying to people who lived across the street. Therefore, just because you think you've isolated all you need, do not take it for granted.

not all boards are marked so make sure u get the right chip. there is also another tda chip close to the transformer. looks identical but just has a different number on it. dont think u can use that 1 coz i think its a voltage amplifier or something like that. any1 no if it can be used for audio amp or just voltage?

@ChaoticaExtreme

6 жыл бұрын

Amanda, It's likely a frame amplifier/vertical deflection chip. A purpose specific amplifier, if you will.

Thanks! I did it. Unfortunately the amp was mono 🙁. But the speaker is good! 😊

Nice

I need to build a high frequency directional beam. Anybody have any ideas.

wow nice idea to remove any chips from old board!! lol

Cool

Hi, you seem to know a thing or two about electronics and TVs in general, so maybe you can help me out (or anyone else who is reading this comment/question). Namely, I got a huge Sony KP-57WV700 rear projection TV from an elderly gentleman, who was getting ready to throw it away, and the TV was working fine for 8-9 months, before starting to show a lot of red discoloration. Anyway, I got another big Sony TV (even using the same remote from the previous one) SONY KDFE-60A20, and I would like to use the base of the KP as a DIY TV-stand for the KDFE, but also use/connect with audio cables (OUT from the new/ IN to the old) the audio amplifier and speakers form the older model (built into the wooden frame KDFE stand). The older SONY has superior sound quality! Is that possible? Can I somehow isolate only the audio amplifier, and still be able to turn the old TV on and use it only as a sound amplifier? I hope you are still reading the replies on your old(er) posts :) Cheers, Zoke

Flyback or EHT transformers do not hold a charge it is the actual tube that acts as a capacitor and you can get a hefty shoch not from the wire that you pulled off but from where you pulled it off from.

@mjt11860

6 жыл бұрын

that's good to know 4 people like me who r unfamiliar w/these things. in order to discharge it, would u take an insulated wire & touch 1 end to where the tv wire connected to the tube & ground the other end?

@mg4869

6 жыл бұрын

The giant capacitor in those things can be deadly as well. Even if there is a visible bleeder resistor, there may be no indication if that resistor is open (and therefore useless). Make sure the giant capacitor is really discharged and disconnected before handling it/anything, or it could be the last thing you touch.

@MarkTillotson

6 жыл бұрын

And trying to ground something against the glass tube isn't going to work - the graphite lining makes it look a bit metallic, but its still plain glass on the outside! And a standard electricians insulated screwdriver isn't rated for 22kV of a colour TV tube, only for typical mains.

@richardgerbes7509

6 жыл бұрын

More modern CRT self discharge anyway, I have scrapped out 1000s of CRTs for the copper, and never once have had a shock. If it's been unplugged for extended period of time, the likelyhood of there being charge is small... (Australia here may be different for the states)

you need an amp for your mike, to low volume

I take a pair of large tin snips...and cut around the entire amp area...and find the power wires in...they will usually be on the large caps, then usually the speaker wires, like on this video, will already have a connector on the board you just cut out...so find the audio inputs...and thats it..Look at the online info for the IC and find the sound inputs left and right...

Nice little project! But a lot of work for a rather crappy chipamp... Crack open an old car stereo instead if you want to build something similar. For example, an LA4708N only require a few external components and will deliver plenty of power at 12 V.

sir I have a cd6283 IC but it has no good sound effect .in increase in volume in phone sound is runs bad soo pls say how can I increase sound & use 2or3speaker

@photonic_induction2633

7 жыл бұрын

add a heatsink (bigger the better) and download an audio eq for phone for more speakers on one cnannel google series and paralel speakers ...

wearing earbuds, idk wtf everyone is complaining about. I can hear you fine. GJ

4:30 you could have just used a soldering iron.

@MIW_Renegade

6 жыл бұрын

Ali the retro kid true but he was outside without an outlet

@bradhabit2217

6 жыл бұрын

I'm very much into soldering, but that was like 10x faster. Quick burst of heat vs constant heat at 4 points to desolder.

Can i salvage it amp chip from old crt monitor which doesn't have any speaker

@ClevelandStorms

6 жыл бұрын

No it most likely will not have an amp chip if it does not have a speaker

That chip is like 2 bucks, not worth salvaging and then putting on a new board. If you really want an amp, dremel the audio amp section of the tv pcb out and use it as is.

@defpixel

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Jose this video is a waste of time lol it should be titled “when you absolutely have nothing better to do, pull the amplifier from your moms tv!”

@MarkTillotson

6 жыл бұрын

Its EOL'd so its value will probably go up for a while for spares...

Removing the red wire from the tube is the best way to get a very strong shock from a TV. You should use a wire that has a probe on the end hook the wire to ground then use the broke to discharge the tube. There is enough voltage at a high enough amperage to stop your heart stored in the tube.

right on run the same wavelength but where was this video two weeks ago when I threw that damn TV away

I would but I have literally that exact tv and everything that comes out is earrape enough as it is

You should have built a mono bridge amplifier out of the I.C. for a guitar amp (double the power)

find the speakers output and you wil find the ic or transistor!!

sir i can uderstand the sestematic diagram pls ... show us to the cam while making an ampilfier

If you were to place a 0.100uf cap on the output to ground you filter all unwanted sound. Basically you amp here is oscillating. Hence the nasty sound. Good work.

I got a cd2611gs ic from old tv board and I can't find any amplifier circuit diagram.

@ClevelandStorms

7 жыл бұрын

It looks to be the same as the TDA2611, just made by a different company. Search TDA2611 on google images and you'll get a few diagrams.

@sarathkumarps6473

7 жыл бұрын

thanks for the reply...

Very cool, just watched liked n subbd

How to make amplifier from Sony Tv (Model - kv-hw21m83), kindly guide me or upload tutorial video.

I like.

Sir how to make 7522 ic amplifeir

Good job bro... 3 Cheers mate .... :)

Put a ground clip on that screw driver and to the chassis then as you pop off the HV cap you will aso discharge the 2nd anode safely.

The charge is on the CRT anode itself

Holy s*** dude! You are lucky you're still alive. You can easily be killed by the amount of amps you get shocked with from a television coil. Handing out this kind of Miss information is an absolute ridiculous liability.

Learn the chassis numbering system 100's IF 400's vertical 500 Horizontal etc etc, If 200's is normally audio. so all parts in the 200 range will relate to audio parts. Also there this thing called a schematic which will show you just where each part connects. you probibly could have isolated and cut the board out and saved the rewiring chore. And I agree with t0nito, hurry up and build that amp so we can hear what your saying. Oh and for future safety reference the anode of the CRT holds can hols a charge up to 30000 volts. not the flyback transformer. discharge it, to the shield (wire) around the tube (ground).

The flyback transformer does not hold the charge , its the tube that holds the charge and this should be discharged to prevent a electric shock