Audi A6 (05-11) Steering Column Removal / Lock Actuator Permanent Fix

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This is my very first video so hopefully I improve over time and provide more tutorials for the Audi A6/C6.
Audizine.com & AudiWorld.com Member: audi786
What we have here is my 05 Audi A6 (C6 4F) Quattro with a steering lock actuator / start authorization immobilizer fault that happens intermittently at any given time. If you are having a problem where you cannot start the car, key is stuck, or stranded due to this situation, look no more!
The Access Start Authorization lock module is a part of vehicle's steering column. Module failure is a common problem in Audi 2005-2011 A6/C6 and Q7 model vehicles. If this is happening to any of your other model/year Audi vehicle, then this is the same problem!
The problem is typically identified by no start and no response from key in the ignition, or proximity access (Start button). The Start / Stop Authorization Module (along with the Electronic Ignition Switch) is responsible for key/transponder recognition, unlocking/locking of steering wheel and powering up all modules in the vehicle. If there is an issue with any of the lock module components (actuator motor, sensing micro switches, relay) or the integrated Immobilizer system Microprocessor/PCB, the module will not provide power to Terminal 15 (ignition on). The end result is, you not having any ignition and no engine start. The module will typically store "00288 - Steering Column Lock Actuator Defective" fault.
The part that actually goes bad over time is the relay in the Steering module as well as the micro switches can get hard to click over time. Replacing them is the only option. The motor is very rare to fail since if you try the temporary fix below, you know the motor is activating. But it can happen so one way to check is measuring the volts with a multi-meter and see if it's fried or not if you are going to open it up and take a look at it. However most repair kits don't include the motor since it really is a very rare part of the problem. It's usually only the relay switch and the micro switches.
The temporary fix for this is using VCDS software.
1. Turn on Hazard lights
2. Turn on High Beams
3. Press on the brake pedal
4. Connect the OBDII wire to your OBDII port and go on your VCDS software and go to "05 - Start/Auth Immo" -- "Fault Codes" --[You will have a fault code here relating to the Steering Lock Actuator].
5. All you have to do is clear the code and the module will reset with the key inside the immobilizer. There is no guarantee how long this fix lasts. Can be anywhere from the next car start to days, month, or even a year. You would keep resetting this if it ever occurred. It WILL progress to being more often if the relay is going bad in the module.
6. If all else fails, disconnect the battery and re-connect to see if this helps.
The permanent fix is this video I made. Please pause the video at any part of the process to help better understand what you need to do. Leave a comment down below and I will do my best to answer it. I'm no professional and just like you, had this problem and took it upon myself to fix it. Was not going to pay Audi $2400 for the whole steering column to fix it! There WAS a TSB out for this by Audi where you could get it fixed for free about...9 years ago so I was out of luck on that as many of us all are at this stage. Hence this video exists. Hope it provides useful information for you to tackle this project.
Genuine part Repair Kit for modules 4F0905852B/4F0905852:
www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-A6-C6-Q...
Music:
Anodized - Unknown Artist

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  • @johncoutinho3021
    @johncoutinho3021 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you... I watched your video three times then I did it myself. You are awesome. All your footnotes were perfect. thank you for the reviews after each section,, The Dealer wanted $5800,00 to change out the steering column, after buying the components and a few extra tools it cost me under $100 and 4 hours.... Thanks again..

  • @Thebombonlyone
    @Thebombonlyone2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. I was looking everywhere for two months trying to figure out this problem. Even the dirty dealerships and mechanics said I need a whole new steering column

  • @Varushka123

    @Varushka123

    Жыл бұрын

    Same happened to my audi A6 2.0 TFSI 2007. €1500,- for a new one.

  • @bristolharris4118
    @bristolharris4118 Жыл бұрын

    DUDE!!!!!! YES!!! All I needed was up to removing the Steering Column!!! This worked perfect for my 07 Q7 THANK YOU!!

  • @johnhealy2001
    @johnhealy2001Ай бұрын

    If you had another second hand unit already bought and just to try and get you home surly if you just attach the wires and put the wire plugs in to the other unit while the original unit is still bolted in place so you can restart the car to see if the car will start and be able to drive i know only temporary job but get you home because looking to buy a Audi s5 with this problem 200 miles from My house was going to try and fix temporary or are these units coded to each car so second hand unit will not work great video nice and slow don't miss anything thanks

  • @serhatgurbuz6116
    @serhatgurbuz61162 жыл бұрын

    très belle vidéo Merci beaucoup merci pour la description détaillée

  • @Sajid_ali7860
    @Sajid_ali7860 Жыл бұрын

    Good job. 👍 thank you so much

  • @johncoutinho3021
    @johncoutinho3021 Жыл бұрын

    😀Great Video, thank you

  • @10aszg
    @10aszg Жыл бұрын

    Hi there! I’ve been having the no ignition lights problem on my C6 on and off since I bought it. I have cut the cable of the steering lock but it still happens almost on a daily basis. I got a brand new ignition switch and still have the problem. Could it be the relay and micro switches even if I cut the lock cable already? Btw really random, but as soon as I start taking a video of my dashboard everything comes back to life again. 100% reliable and I have a tonne of 2 second videos on my camera roll as I use it to fix the problem if it happens. Couldn’t make this up! If car ignition doesn’t start, i take out my phone, start the camera app and almost instantly ignition lights come back on and I can start the car.

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what you mean by no ignition lights. Do you mean your instrument cluster doesn't light up and stay blank? Cutting the cable or disconnecting from switch should help since microswitches are not involved and motor doesn't need to activate. I would definitely look at the relays but most importantly check your battery or even the alternator.

  • @10aszg

    @10aszg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY i figured it out!! My wireless phone charger was interfering with the immobiliser and that’s why while my phone was on the cradle and charging my car didnt start. When taking it off to film the issue it suddenly works because the charger doesnt interfere anymore. Removing the charger solved the issue!!

  • @Maxpointcom
    @Maxpointcom2 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍🏻 On my A6 2010 with electric steering adjustment, they are a T30 screw ont the top off the steering assembly, behind the instrument cluster, and you have to cut a bit off the plastic from the dashboard to gain access to the screw

  • @bradchang5076
    @bradchang50763 жыл бұрын

    What is the difference between the 2 part numbers that you listed for repair kits?

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    3 жыл бұрын

    No difference. I put a "/" so that either parts could be used since they are interchangeable. Older models used non "B" Revision variant while the "B" revision also causes this issue. Whenever you buy the kit, it will include either part numbers.

  • @1FlyingPilot
    @1FlyingPilot Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know what scanner will connect with my 2008 Audi a6? I have a ancel vd500 that does not connect using the brake, high beams, 4way flasher method.

  • @tafadzwagwaze2016
    @tafadzwagwaze20163 жыл бұрын

    Would OBDeleven work what OBD would you recommend?

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the late reply. OBDeleven works great with this vehicle. Any would work that can properly read the vehicle. I am using a genuine Ross Tech cable but I recommend an Xtool v401 obd2 scanner.

  • @dhulfiqaral-saadi2802
    @dhulfiqaral-saadi28022 жыл бұрын

    For my Audi Q7 I have checked the relays and fuses, they all match and are where they should be. I have changed the ignition switch but nothing changes. The car sometimes shows lights then completely loses power, there is a weird sound coming from the cluster area. Do you think changing the steering lock module would fix my issue? There is no ignition. (I have tried to check with OBD2 but the car won’t be read. I followed a procedure to make the ecu readable but still, nothing)

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    What is the voltage readings you are getting? Have you checked the battery? Disconnect and reconnect after a good 5 minutes. Is your battery genuine or aftermarket? If genuine, then how old is the battery? If aftermarket, is it an AGM battery and how old is it? You may also want to check if your alternator is not failing, check the voltage readings for that as well. Your problem may or may not be related to the steering actuator module. The only way to know for sure is to first check the above listed and let me know since it's hard to know what your describing without physically able to see the vehicle. The sound you are hearing and instrument cluster shutting off is a high indicator for bad battery/alternator.

  • @mr.optimysticprime7013
    @mr.optimysticprime70132 жыл бұрын

    I have a question, would this result in the dealership unable to program a new key?

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Negative, this only replaces the faulty sensors that trigger the mechanism. It does not change any aspect to the programming of the module itself. You should be able to make your keys from the dealer without any issues.

  • @patriklindqvist3294
    @patriklindqvist329411 ай бұрын

    hi i have done everything as you have described after that the car is completely dead cant alarm on or about and now the key is stuck in the kiss switch do you have any suggestions? Do you have to recode the keys after this box has been disconnected?

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    11 ай бұрын

    If the car is not giving any signs of power, check the battery. Has it been drained? Check volts and charge battery. There is no coding required as soldering the microswitches has no correlation to the board. The board is programmed to your key fob. There is no need to do that.

  • @ajbowden8378
    @ajbowden8378 Жыл бұрын

    My car was working fine but wasn’t driven for months so when I went to start it battery was dead. I jumped it and it started up fine. So I went and bought a new battery it’s a refurbished but Agm and same specs now when I put the key in the ignition doesn’t come on car won’t start. I checked fault codes only 7 and not the 0288 code. I cleared them same thing. Windows don’t work no dash lights . Mmi comes on. I can’t figure out the issue

  • @thadiusplemons3486
    @thadiusplemons34862 жыл бұрын

    Is there a way to just get rid of this all together I’m trying to build a rally cross car out of a A6 and this is the problem with the car

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mentioned to a comment a few months back and suggested they can either buy a OBD2 scan and reset on the spot if it's the one with a screen or disconnect battery and reconnect to reset the sensors. Another suggestion I can make is if you do not want to deal with this at all, then what you want to do is disable the steering column actuator by simply removing the motor connector from the board and making sure the lock arm mechanism is in open position (make sure that the locking mechanism isn't locked). I will explain this, keep reading. Might need to clear DTC code and should work. You will just have to manually turn on car by inserting key and turning as if you would with any car. To explain this further: Switch off the vehicle with key in ignition ON position so that the steering locking mechanism does not engage, then go remove the negative terminal from battery. Now you will have to remove the steering module as shown in the video. Once the steering lock module is off, pry open the metal casing to access the board. You do not need to disassemble further, simply disconnect the 2 plug motor inside and put everything back together. Doing this method of unplugging the motor is because when ever you insert key, it will no longer disengage as no power is being required to the sensors to trigger the release of the locking mechanism. This will help make sure it never locks out. You may or maynot have auto start without key as I haven't tested this but I know 100% that disconnecting the motor will solve the issue you are looking. After all that. you don't have to do anything else. Simply enjoy the rally car!

  • @ispalin4667
    @ispalin46672 ай бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jibb16
    @jibb163 жыл бұрын

    Do you know what kind of scanner that can clear the lock module codes to be able to start it? Cause I tried a couple scanners but both of them has to have power to the ignition before it will connect to the car but I heard Audi made it where you can scan the simple codes (not the trans or engine codes) to be able to clear the lock module codes and what not but I cant find any info on what scanner will do that without buying a 5000 dollar scanner I have a 05 Audi A6 Quattro 4.2 that has the same problem

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any scanner will do actually. Yes so the scanner will not be able to read the module completely so you have to force current to the module. As mentioned in the description, insert key and turn key to on position and leave the key inserted, turn on hazard lights, press on brake pedal, and turn on high beam at the same time and run scan and that module will pop up. Any OBD2 scanner will work, even the wired one from VCDS from your laptop. I reccomend an Xtool v401 obd2 scanner but which ever you have, if you try that method I mentioned it will recognize the module by forcing it to "wake up." Another thing you can do is disconnect battery and reconnect and that will also reset it.

  • @jibb16

    @jibb16

    3 жыл бұрын

    First Time DIY okay so I have a BlueDriver Bluetooth obd2 scanner but it always says it can’t find the vehicle, maybe I was doing the procedure wrong tho, I was thinking I could reset it by pulling the battery cable like you would any other car but I was worried it might screw up the other modules and have to recode them or something

  • @jibb16

    @jibb16

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I really appreciate your reply! No one else would answer me

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bluetooth OBD2 scanners can be tricky since the car cannot engage to turn on electronics, the Bluetooth OBD2 would think the same way since wireless transmissions can't recognize sequence changes properly the way directly connected obd scanners would. Since I don't use that particular scanner if it recognizes changes in current to 3nable the module then thats a good scanner! But if that procedure doesn't work with recognizing the module, a cheap wired cabled will 100% work. Also make sure you firmly press on the Brake pedal.

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also removing battery connections should be fine, you can just remove the black wire from the terminal and re connect it after 10-15 seconds

  • @aldenmolina2054
    @aldenmolina20543 жыл бұрын

    Quick question bro if you buy the vcds cable what kind of laptop you need to use ?

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any intel based laptop will work as long as it has windows operating system. The software is compatible from Windows XP up til windows 10. Will not work on Apple products.

  • @aldenmolina2054

    @aldenmolina2054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY thanks man I'm going to buy today the vcds hex-v2 enthusiasts cable and I'm going to look for a laptop... I see you from Houston if anything can I go down to Houston and see if you can fix and resolder the steering column module

  • @aldenmolina2054

    @aldenmolina2054

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY I live in Dallas and my parents live in Houston

  • @Kalani-xq9mn
    @Kalani-xq9mn Жыл бұрын

    i have a question my husband did the repair and put it back it started and turned it off the car would not start and would not clear any code, then he put the new motor in at we got the codes to clear and it started and we turned it off and now it wont start again or clear any code i think the motor is blowing but why. I'm so lost.

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    Жыл бұрын

    How were the fuses? Is there any blown fuses you can verify? If the fuses are not blown, how were the soldering points. Was the soldering done okay or look okay? I would also check the battery. How old is battery? If it's new, check alternator, if it's old, replace. Usually the reset sequence can help erase the code by turning on the hazard lights, put high beam, and press on brake pedal. Do this for a good 10-30 seconds. Then scan the car and see if you can clear code. I would also check if the board itself is not short circuiting. When soldering make sure to check no resistors or fuses were damaged. It should not being blowing the replaced motor mechanism this quickly. There could be another underlying cause.

  • @Kalani-xq9mn

    @Kalani-xq9mn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY Ok so we disconnected the module again opened it up and then put it back cleared the code and the car started as soon as we shut it off the car would not start again and won't clear the codes until we take it apart again. i was thinking it has something to do with the white plastic wheel that connects to the motor when you shut the car off you hear a noise from it.

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kalani-xq9mn Check to make sure you have adequate power. Power draw can cause this if it's excessive. With an obdII scanner, you can check the steering module for current draws and find voltage readings. If the readings don't satisfy 12V then it can be another underlying issue such as relay, fuses, or the module board maybe going bad (due to old capacitors on the board not holding charge). Since I don't have the car to look at physically to diagnose, my bet is on the relay. The motor in my opinion seems fine since the reset procedure seems to allow the motor to work. You will need to check which relay that is for the steering column as it could be under the steering on the bottom left or engine bay driver side. Best to make sure no fuses are corroded from preventing proper connections. Cleaning them off or replacing them will help. You'd be surprised how calcium or corrosion builds on the fuses. You mentioned the first time it starts the car but the second time it doesn't? When scanning, does it connect to the module and give your the fault code? If it is reading the module, the minute you clear the fault, the motor should disengage. If you can't access the fault code from module and only able to do so by performing the reset procedure, I suggest a last resort option below as this seems to be another issue that I cannot diagnose without seeing the car. To fix this permanently, you will have to completely disable your auto start function of the car by forcing the car to only start with your keys and not have to deal with this ever again. I will explain the procedure. What you want to do is disable the steering column actuator by simply removing the motor connector from the board and making sure the lock arm mechanism is in open position (make sure that the locking mechanism isn't locked). I will explain this, keep reading. Might need to clear DTC code at the end and should work. You will just have to manually turn on car by inserting key and turning as if you would with any car without the start button. To explain this further in detail: Before you do this procedure, just like you did last time, removing the module or removing the connections etc, or doing the reset procedure to get the car to reset, do it again since we want to disengage the mechanism. So after you did that and get to the part where you want to start the car, instead of starting the car, just put the key in the immobilizer and turn until you hear the mechanism disengage when it goes to the ON position. Leave the key in there through out the whole process. This will make the steering locking mechanism not to engage, then go remove the negative terminal from battery. Now you will have to remove the steering module. Once the steering lock module is off, pry open the metal casing to access the board. You do not need to disassemble further, simply disconnect the 2 plug motor inside and put everything back together. Doing this method of unplugging the motor is because when ever you insert key, it will no longer disengage as no power is being required to the sensors to trigger the release of the locking mechanism. This will help make sure it never locks out. Disconnecting the motor will solve the issue entirely. After all that, you don't have to do anything else. Just plug negative terminal back in, scan vehicle, clear code from module, remove key. Give it a go. I know most of the time this problem occurs because the car is trying to communicate with the key Immobilizer when you insert the key or press the start button. When it doesn't engage or do anything. It can only mean that the communication isn't established and the power to the module is not enough or is not triggering the motor to disengage. Various factors can cause this such as relay going bad, battery being old or drawing too much power and not providing enough to the steering module, the board, etc. One last thing to check is to make sure your car's firmware is updated to the latest. Most MMI updates can fix glitches or communication issues with modules with these revisions.

  • @Kalani-xq9mn

    @Kalani-xq9mn

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY thank I will have my husband try that I was also thinking maybe the new really we soldered to the board is bad. Because we disconnected for a third time and we’re able to clear the code and is started but as soon as we turned it off the car would not start again or clear the code

  • @Thebombonlyone
    @Thebombonlyone2 жыл бұрын

    Help I did this and the car still doesn't work...

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you describe a little bit of what you did? Did you follow exactly as I did? Does your module read your key. For example, when you insert your key, does the motor disengage the actuator? When you scan it does it access that module fine? Remember to erase all the fault codes after your work as the old fault code will still be there until it is cleared. Were you able to get any voltage readings from your vehicle? What does the module voltage reading show?

  • @godunha
    @godunha2 жыл бұрын

    I've replaced (relay + switchs) and 2 weeks later the problem strikes again, do u know more methods to solve this? I can't spend 180-190€ every 2 weeks to drive an Audi 🤣

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    2 жыл бұрын

    You've mentioned of replacing the relay and switches. We're you able to replace the motor that triggers the switches as well? If not I would give that a try. Also make sure to erase any previous code after switches and motor replacement. Most of the time even the board itself can have a shelf life due to capacitors (can be replaced but not sure if it's worth the hassle) dying out if the car hasn't been use a lot for most of its life. You have many options as to how you want to go about this. I will explain: 1. You can buy an obdII scanner and whenever this occurs, you will have to perform the reset procedure everytime. The convenience is, you have the obdII scanner handy. Would be better to keep it in the car. 2. You can buy a replacement board or steering column module itself and have a dealer program the vehicle to your keys. 3. Check to make sure you have adequate power. Power draw can cause this if it's excessive. With an obdII scanner, you can check the steering module for current draws and find voltage readings. If the readings don't satisfy 12V then your module board maybe going bad (due to old capacitors on the board not holding charge). 5. You will have to completely disable your auto start function of the car by forcing the car to only start with your keys and not have to deal with ever again. I will explain the procedure. If you do not want to deal with this at all, then what you want to do is disable the steering column actuator by simply removing the motor connector from the board and making sure the lock arm mechanism is in open position (make sure that the locking mechanism isn't locked). I will explain this, keep reading. Might need to clear DTC code and should work. You will just have to manually turn on car by inserting key and turning as if you would with any car. To explain this further: Switch off the vehicle with key in ignition ON position so that the steering locking mechanism does not engage, then go remove the negative terminal from battery. Now you will have to remove the steering module as shown in the video. Once the steering lock module is off, pry open the metal casing to access the board. You do not need to disassemble further, simply disconnect the 2 plug motor inside and put everything back together. Doing this method of unplugging the motor is because when ever you insert key, it will no longer disengage as no power is being required to the sensors to trigger the release of the locking mechanism. This will help make sure it never locks out. You may or maynot have auto start without key as I haven't tested this but I know 100% that disconnecting the motor will solve the issue entirely. After all that, you don't have to do anything else. There have been viewers who have messaged me that relay switch replacement along with motor replacement helped get them going with great success. Of course replacing the micro switches would be advised since you've opened up this far. These are all the suggestions I can provide and see if they help. I know most of the time this problem occurs because the car trys to communicate with the key Immobilizer when you insert the key or press the start button. When it doesn't engage or do anything. It can only mean that the communication isn't established and the power to the module is not enough or not trigger the motor to disengage. Various factors can cause this such as relay going bad, battery being old or drawing too much power and not providing enough to the steering module, micro switches, motor itself, the board, etc. One last thing to check is to make sure your car's firmware is updated to the latest. Most MMI updates can fix glitches or communication issues with modules with these revisions.

  • @godunha

    @godunha

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FirstTimeDIY Thanks a lot for your time to help me, i need some time to decide the best option to car.

  • @joelsanchez7447
    @joelsanchez74476 ай бұрын

    This is wrong, screw placements are NOT where they say you are, the process of taking the bottom part is NOT the same for every year, end up breaking the whole thing, the wiring harness are not the same shown on other models, couldn’t get the information I needed

  • @FirstTimeDIY

    @FirstTimeDIY

    6 ай бұрын

    You are being very vague here. You did not specify what you worked on. What model of the vehicle are we talking here? What wiring harness and screws? The process I explained worked for many people and it speaks for itself. I'm sorry you didn't find what you were looking for. Best of luck.

  • @user-ng6uv7xo5e
    @user-ng6uv7xo5e Жыл бұрын

    малорик

  • @rival3825
    @rival3825 Жыл бұрын

    Instead of Dremel use a screw extractor for stripped screwd

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