Had a 60v Dewalt that was the same way only it kept throwing chains to boot - spent more time working on it than I did cutting. It wound up flying about 20 ft because it died in a scenario that had put me in danger then got traded in on a Milwaukee. The Milwaukee will cook a battery and not think twice, just keeps on cutting. I'm very happy with it. I put on a carbide chain and it's honestly my go to for saws now.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I really like my Milwaukee too.

I've used battery chainsaws for about 3 years. Also repair electronics repair batteries etc... There is a little secret they don't tell you when you wanna play battery powered arborist. You need Several batteries in my case I always take out about 6 batteries. Now I know what your saying 6 batteries that is extremely expensive but is it really? I always purchase a new tool to get a new battery ;) In my case I use Ryobi based equipment however the same rule applies across the board. Incorrect about voltages the higher the voltage the lower the resistance within a system the more power a system can carry without heating up. Battery protection is critical with lithium the real problem is you need about a 6lb battery with some type of built in cooling which isn't the most practical it is simple to carry batteries with you in a sack just like your gas can you carry a sack of batteries. It is in fact likely commercial grade as far as that goes however there are some commercial grade woes that it lacks the oilers typically either leak like a sieve or they run a bit on the dry side I've noticed with mainly all electric chainsaws this part don't seem to work as well as gas for whatever reason. Thermal protection with lithium is critical a runaway fire in a battery that size would be catastrophic and deadly! Have you ever seen what happens with just a single 18650 cell? It is extreme there is a fire that happens you simply don't put out to keep it simple. For the battery to house proper cooling it would take away cutting time and also you would have to worry about dirt and such creeping in and burning the fan out as well as moisture because water will cause a fire with lithium batteries. So there are reasons why this is not done it just ain't practical to provide cooling to the batteries however it is practical to carry several batteries along with you so I take my battery from my mower, from battery snow shovel, the weed eater, the pole saw, the cultivator and what I do is bring them all out there with me along with two battery powered saws and a good helping of bar and chain oil and I cut and split basically all day long. Knowing what you need is critical based upon your expectations you need 6 batteries minimum. For me there were days I went through the batteries twice so I would have needed a generator for charging them or 12 batteries out in the bush those days... During the summer cutting all day long and not splitting because my hands were too tore up from manually splitting with the axe after having 3 blisters one on top of the other you wind up with a good sore and the pain becomes a bit difficult to ignore. But when your sweating like mad and there is heat advisories out etc... It gets a bit nuts your hand either grips the handle or slips a little than grips and thats what normally gets me usually in a couple of spots. But you also have to stop for your neighbors telling you you probably shouldn't be splitting all the wood in this heat etc etc... And explain to them the whole story about how you stay very hydrated and take breaks as needed and so forth. Battery powered chainsaws have little downsides to them but the upsides are amazing and the cost of the tool is exceptionally cheap in comparison to gas you still have chain maintenance but as far as fuel system problems which every chainsaw under the sun seems to have it is not there with battery. Don't expect to cut crazy large trees with them you will still need your gas this is fact but the gas chainsaw is now a must have for me for limbs and smaller trees it seems to function better and seems safer as well overall many times kickback happens when your chopping up and stripping the tree of limbs have not had that worry with the battery powered units as there isn't the same amount of raw torque. Leave the large trees to gas for smaller trees like the ones you were cutting battery is fine they are in my mind now categorized as battery powered trees. Don't go getting into this Branding propaganda either they make great battery powered saws all across the board the whole branding nonsense is just that nonsense! All of the brushless tech is way way too similar in nature to say one is worth 100's of doll hairs more partner don't buy into the hype and marketiering wank of my wank is bigger than yours. To be honest it is likely some huge umbrella company making stuff for various brands using essentially the same stuff maybe they might use less glass fiber in one product vs the other or more useless spring washers how the hell they call these lock washers is beyond me they are fairly worthless there is a lot of data to show that "lock washers" are not as great as they claim to be its essentially marketing wank that has stuck with us over the years do they have their place sure we use them if a bolt is slightly to long or if a customer wants to feel a bit more secure that there will be a tad more added friction in applications where there is a lot of vibration but if things are torqued down right you don't need it typically. The problem is there is a wealth of wank out there. For all the guys bitching about battery powered chainsaws just keep bitching maybe less people will buy them and I can get them cheaper then lol if I need more batteries I'll buy more tools this way my weed eater and my chain saw stays fairly new every year I tend to try to gear myself to buying a battery powered tool. Hope this helps someone out there as my expectations obviously differed largely from others just knowing how the battery tech works and how volatile they are. Tech is changing this as we speak there is taking the tech that essentially allows for solid electrolytes I believe which will do many things to improve the battery tech. John Goodenough the original inventor of the lithium battery figured this tech out already what it will do is allow the batteries to last a lot longer because dendrites will have a difficult time piercing the layers in a cell and the effects of heat and loss of electrolyte and venting will be skirted to a large degree their will not be the same dangers as there is with the liquid based electrolyte according to what I have read on this. Tesla is trying to develop cells that integrate a battery into the frame of his cars I assume there will be some improvements to electrolytes as well but the same could be done for power tool batteries rather than used a bunch of linked cells just cheaply make a battery that is just layers in a contained single unit as long as you can keep it safe from catastrophic failure as it would essentially give you zero time to react you would lose something for sure possibly your face your your life. They are dangerous enough, as it stands but if they mitigate things and are able to use solid electrolytes there would also be the added benefit of working better in the cold as well. Like the guy said the tech in things will likely improve over the next decade but in order for things to improve we must show a demand for it the market essentially has to buy into something and vote for its improvement it helps to complain about these things because it means your buying it you like it but you'd like to see and improvement but to suggest there is no use for it or it is garbage is False!

@deepsouthNZ

3 жыл бұрын

You should have a channel too with so much to say,don't get me wrong what you said is great, thank you

@wisolutions

3 жыл бұрын

@@deepsouthNZ I tried to do a channel 10 years ago but Google blacklisted me and claimed that my Ad Revenue was faked I violated some policy by trying to get people to check it out through traffic providers back in the day. I was unaware that this was against the rules to use traffic providers. The idea was that people would look at my stuff personally and then stick around if they like it. This destroyed my chances of starting any real channel I would've shared a lot of great content I'm sure however being blacklisted from the potential of getting some financial praise for putting in the work to build a channel and put out good content put a sour note on everything I still have shared some content to help folks out over the years. But no where near what I would have not even a slight bit but I still am here to enjoy the content others put out. It was a rather odd thing I thought it was a bit unreasonable I was as honest as heck about the whole thing did not even know what I did was remotely wrong and as an end result there is little to no content. It takes time to create and people should have the ability to earn revenue for their creation. I mean when I sit here and think of how the RIAA and MPAA can go after and sue the pants off of old grandparents who didn't know any better for downloading music or movies because these millionaires were bitching about not getting enough and then you have a policy and platform that is so close minded on creators it was a bit of a pill to swallow. You can say on one hand people who are rich deserve to get paid and then on the other hand people who are busting their hump just trying to be creators on youtube should have these different sets of rules imposed upon them with zero tolerance it was evident the platform picks their winners and losers like just about any other platform out there. And boy was I ever right especially after this year people were getting banned just for discussing theories and freedom of speech was under attack more than ever this last year. Now you have the rest of the story as Paul Harvey used to say.

@patlsmith404

3 жыл бұрын

‘ How is the Ryobi? Thinking about getting one. I’ve got a weed eater and love the ease of its use.just wondering about the chainsaw!😎

@wisolutions

3 жыл бұрын

@@patlsmith404 A fairly safe buy I've purchased 4 of them one of them has an oiler that leaks but it leaks at the rate you would like it to while cutting the downside is that it leaks when its hanging out in the shed. So the only issues I've had was this best limbing chainsaw someone could have great for anything 12" its an amazing tool faster than my gas powered stihl at the smaller stuff and you don't have to yank the ever loving daylights out of it but I removed like 10 trees from my yard after paying a tree service a crazy price to remove one it was still cheaper to buy all these saws and have the batteries and do it myself by a landslide heck I could likely buy 20 saws and still be cheaper a great tool for sure... I love it. I tried 1 before I purchased more of course I dunno how they do it but it works heck of a mochine their red rider. ;)

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen reviews saying it’s good for the money

The Atlas uses Greenworks/Globe Tools 2.5 kW motor but Harbor Freight chose to use a custom battery incompatible with Globe Tools 80/82v battery platform and chose to only offer a single 2.5 Ahr battery. This battery, as an 80v, is a single string battery, 20 cells in series, all the current feeding the saw's 2.5 kW motor has to pass through those cells and its too much, they overheat from the current draw of 2.5 kW. The Atlas battery is likely rated for only 1.6 to 2 kW of continuous usage, this is why the Atlas cuts out, it is not the saw but the battery telling it to shut down. This same motor is available in the Greenworks Commercial GS181 or the Kobalt KCS 4080-06 chainsaws and they have dual string batteries available, 4, 5, or 6 Ahr. Very expensive though. All of the dual string batteries are rated for more than 2.5 kW continuous use.

red back 120 volt battery chain saw works very good

You can use the chainsaw all day, you just need to carry a pack of multiple batteries to switch them out periodically. Think of it like the equivalent of carrying a can of gasoline to refuel.

@whynotdoitanyways5466

Жыл бұрын

Ya but the amount of battries to buy to cut down a tree will cost you an arm and a leg. Probably $100 each.

I have a Milwaukee saw that i keep on my side by side. Very handy. Really been impressed with the saw. The Milwaukee's a little expensive but it works really well for what i need it for. But if i have a bunch of stuff to cut i will use my Stilh.

I have an unusual outlook on battery vs gas. I love to work and get stuff done around the house. However, part of my enjoyment is being left alone, with what I call "chainsaw therapy". I feel that all the noise of gas engines deters folks from talking to you and disturbing you because they know you can't hear them, and as maybe subconciously, the noise scares people off. You simply can't get that with battery powered equipment.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Very true

@michaelandcolinspop

4 жыл бұрын

@George Martin You are so right. I’ve also used chainsaw therapy for years very effectively. I love the time spent outdoors with my saws, by myself, knowing at the end of the day that hard work got done with my hands, a 2-stroke engine, a chain, and a lot of noise.

@papageo5

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelandcolinspop We are kindred spirits, my brother!

@papageo5

4 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge Thanks! Gotta cherish our time working outdoors!

@michaelandcolinspop

4 жыл бұрын

@George Martin Yes, sir!

Great real world review. Gives me a heads up that I need to purchase a few batteries if I want to use it all day. I appreciate your honest feedback on the pro's and con's of the saw. Thanks!

Thank you, your video helped us decide which one to buy, especially in the new world of battery operated tools. You really helped us decide the better purchase, we would have made the same mistake as many of the reviewers and wasted money on the 40v battery, we will be trying it out later today! Appreciate the help!

I appreciate you putting this saw through it’s paces. It’s really interesting to see how this saw runs compared to a gas unit. The battery overheating doesn’t surprise me after seeing it in person. I don’t think HF has the tech down quite yet

@buffalojones341

4 жыл бұрын

Ethan ridesbikes you’re pretty right on. Batteries don’t like being drained hard. I used to build and fly RC drones for racing and batteries are the biggest thing holding back the sport. You punch the batteries and the amp draw is huge which is super hard on the batteries. Tons of heat is generated, and chemical changes occur more quickly in the lithium packs. My guess is that the saw is great, but really needs better batteries or even a pair of batteries run in parallel so the amp potential is greater and the drain won’t hit the two batteries at once so hard.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the 40v using the 80/40v battery so far hasn’t overheated but I haven’t used it as hard yet but I’m going too, lol. Just to see how it does

@jon_byler

Жыл бұрын

The s problem with this battery is it is only a single series chain of cells that are truly not capable of delivering the current the motor can draw. A motor this big really needs two strings cells in parallel to deliver that kind of current continuously. This is reportedly a 2500 watt motor, and it’s pulling over 31A through that poor battery at full charge, and closer to 35A as it gets down to 3.6v per cell under load. 25A continuous load is pushing the limits, and really shouldn’t ever exceed 30A with most batteries for any period of time.

I have the 40 volt and the 80 volt. I just keep 2 batteries with me and switch them back and forth. I usually do not have to stop cutting doing that. It still isn't like a gas saw but then I don't have to haul gas with me and I like the quiet. I will say for a bigger job I still grab my 2 Stihl gas saws. Appreciate the video.

@WilliamsonRidge

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@alan-dr8uo

4 ай бұрын

Neighbors heas 1 they like it mostly I got a 20 volt dewalt I don't like it don't sound and cut like my 261s

My lynxx 40v pole saw goes and goes. It's the correct tool for the job around here. For hardwoods 10 inches and up I use gas saws. And they are alot faster.... With sharp chains. Homeowner on 2 acres with plenty to do after the ice storms we get.

Good job on the review I’m sold don’t see one of those in my future. Looks like at least you had great weather. Take care brother.

What i have been finding is that you need both… Gas and Battery. I have had issues where i have some branches that have fallen, big yet small enough to drag away kind of stuff. Not big enough of a job where i really want to break out the gas, then fight with the pull starter, etc. Just a 10 min clean up job and this will work in an instant. Any bigger of a job, gas. Same thing with the leaf blower, in the fall, i definitely pull out the gas powered blower because i know i need it to run for many hours. But sometime we get wind blowing stuff back on to the deck and sidewalks and again, not a big enough job for all the stuff you have to deal with for getting the gas blower going. Just another 10 or 20 min job. Im just a home owner on several acres and my equipment is not always ready to go like a landscaper would have. For me, Chain saw, Blower or String trimmer, to get those up and running, your looking at probably 20 min to get started. Pull the gas, check the oil or mix the gas (depending on if you have 2 or 4 cycle). Then fight the pull starter to get it started and warmed up to where its not konking out.

I have a 10 inch worx saw, I also have 4 batteries for it and I can and have run all 4 of them dead right in a row without the saw stopping! Really like the worx brand so far!

I have a stihl msa 220 and a 300s battery. I can run from fully charged to dead battery and never experience thermol shutdown. Same with my battery stihl polesaw with the same battery. For limbs and small trees, it's the bomb!! For larger trees/limbs gas all the way! Having both gas and battery is a great combo!

@WilliamsonRidge

Ай бұрын

Yeah I have a few other battery saws and they don’t have the over heating issue, I still use gas saws a lot too but the convenience of the battery saws is great

Thanks for the review it was much appreciated and gives us food for thought.. can't wait to see your test with the 2 batteries...

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks I thinks it’s a great saw but this limitation with the battery may keep me pushed towards the gas side still, but I did get another battery so we will see how that goes

Thanks for your input.

Much love brother , thanks again and stay safe out there you are a true blessing you and your family..... prayers

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary!

Great review! I was going to get one of these today, but after watching your video, I’ll just stick with my gas saws. Your video demonstrates exactly what I would use the saw for. I take care of a 200 acre property I was wanting a battery saw to keep with me to take care of the occasional down or problem tree that I often come across. Thanks again for the video review! You gained me as a subscriber too!

@WilliamsonRidge

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! The Atlas saw is good for occasional or intermittent use, if you try to use it from full charge to empty battery then that’s where the problem lies, but there are other saws that will run a full battery, no problems, I have an Echo DCS5000 56v that will do that and my Milwaukee M18 fuel

Thank you!. You just saved me $300 at least and aggravation. Even with an extra battery sounds like it would be stop and go all day. I'm a residential user but don't need that aggravation. Maybe I'll just bite the bullet and my a $500 Stihl.

@WilliamsonRidge

9 ай бұрын

Yeah the saw is great for intermittent use, has plenty of power and speed but can overheat with constant use.

To be honest, if I was a person who did landscaping commercially I probably wouldn't even use STIHL's own electric saws for big tasks either. I don't care what a company advertises, battery powered chainsaws are nowhere near even close to replacing a gas saw as of yet. I have this 80v Atlas saw and love it for what it is, a tool to be used around my yard for maintaining the trees without making tons of noise near my neighbors. Plus, since I run canola oil in my gas saw as bar oil I also run it in this. So being that it's battery powered there is literally no petroleum being burnt or used as lubricant while working around the yard, veggie garden and chicken run. Since switching over to a canola & mineral oil mix I've also noticed how much easier it is to clean the saw dust from both this unit and my MS251. The saw dust is wet and clumped up but easily brushes off unlike regular bar oil that's thick and tacky. Buying this also got me into the platform as well so I could buy the tool I wanted originally, the 80v weed whacker, which I will be buying next when possible. Mainly because gas powered versions of these tools for yard use are annoying. It doesn't seem to matter how well you run them dry or use ethanol free gas, it feels like each year you still have to fiddle with them to get them running. :)

Looks like harbor freight strikes again. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

They really are a good saw just not for constant use.

Thanks. That’s what I needed to know.

@WilliamsonRidge

Ай бұрын

Originally when I put this video out HF advertised this line of saws as commercial grade but since changed it, they are great for a homeowner doing occasional jobs or intermittent work that allows the saw to cool down between cuts

Great job buddy on the video well done my friend stay safe 👍👍😷

I guess it’s a commercial grade saw but not a commercial grade battery,good review

Great review

For sure I would not call it commercial grade... I bought one a couple of years ago and mainly use it to cut up trees and branches that fall on my property (I live in a heavily wooded lot)... I love the saw, mainly because I always have trouble getting my 16" Stihl gas saw started, probably because I keep flooding it out, and I don't run it very often... I always drain the gas out of it because I never know how long it will be when I use it again... I usually only mix up a one gallon can of gas... which can be a pain too ! The At;as 80V saw has performed really well for me so far... I have had it stop sometimes, but I usually remove the battery (if it still shows a good charge), and re-insert it and it restarts... always thought it was some sort of "heat sensor" doing it. Having an extra fully charged battery handy would help... I do have 3 batteries and two chargers because I also have the HF Atlas leaf blower, and 10" chainsaw pole... the leaf blower gets a lot of use, and is the main reason that I have extra batteries... but I have never had the leaf blower stop running... it only stops when the battery gets too low, and that could be about 30 minutes, depending on how hard It is blowing.

thanks for the info

Thanks. Your video just made my decision easy.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I agree, it's not a commercial grade saw. Having said that, I own gas, corded electric and battery operated chainsaws. There is a learning curve to each one. IMO they should not put metal bucking spikes on battery saws. When you dig in with the bucking spikes, you are over taxing the motor. If you try cutting large, hard wood again, try taking it slow and not push the saw, it probably won't shut off out on you. I was actually impressed at how fast that saw was cutting. Also, you let your chain cut into the ground a few times in the video, that's really bad for the bar and chain.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@insearchofthebest9070

4 жыл бұрын

I agree I have that exact saw & a spare battery he over worked the saw I watched him force feed that saw on that hardwood let the saw or equipment do the work it tells you that first thing on owner manual I have the pole saw atlas also & the 80 v weed eater great products used as intended & your 100 % correct about the dirt

I often try a second battery

Well, for one, its Harbor Freight, so 50/50 on whether it's good or not. Also, commercial grade probably refers more to what the saw can handle, but with the limitations of the battery. Understand that if you are cutting wood commercially, you've already decided on a nice Stihl or Husqvarna gas saw. I see this as the weekender who has a tree they want to cut up or they're at a campsite and need some firewood. Not someone making their own firewood for winter heating or someone in the firewood making business. To that end, I do own the 21" mower and two batteries and I can say that the mower can handle some pretty thick brush at the expense of the battery.

@randisius

3 жыл бұрын

Also, common sense tells ya that battery ain't commercial grade, but ya can probably cut down a decent oak or maple before the battery gave. To be fair, their push mower with 2 batteries does a damn fine bit of work on a half acre lawn.

Thank you so much for the real world review. I was able to score a very lightly used one of these with two batteries, and I think it will work great for use around the property. I have a Greenwork 40V that has the same issues with the heat cut-out. Hopefully this one will be better than the Greenworks.

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

They really are good powerful saws for smaller jobs just not constant use.

@arnoldstafford3620

2 жыл бұрын

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I was curious if you need ear-pro when using this? It sounds pretty loud, even being electric.

thanks bro for the video, i'm looking to buy a battery chainsaw and i've seen 2 videos on the Atlas and both have been bad. i'll keep looking

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

The saws are actually pretty good just not for continuous use, they have plenty of power and if your just using to clear a few limbs or cut some then take a break or clear a tree from a trail they work great. I recently purchased the Milwaukee m18 fuel chainsaw and it’s a beast, it will run a full battery without overheating but it cost about 450, videos on that coming soon

I own the Milwaukee and the EGO so far. If I am going to cut large trees I use a gasoline saw but when my wife comes back after leaving for work and says there is a tree laying across the driveway (1/4 mile long) I just grab a battery saw and get her on her way. Then I can go back to bed without smelling like gas lol

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

Very handy for that kind of stuff.

If you was going to buy one, which would you buy now that you have used both, the 40v or the 80v? Mine will be mainly after ice storms and such but I don't want it stopping on me. And, does the 80v have a better trigger system? I have heard it is more responsive and can be feathered.

Somebody needs to open it up and figure out how to improve the airflow / cooling and disable the thermal protection! Send one of these too AVE!

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if it would just get through a charge under constant use it would be great. I actually have the 80v string trimmer now and use the same batteries with it and they don’t overheat running constant and heavy weeds and grass video coming on that soon.

Great Reviews your 40volt vid told me the problem the Battery is 5mAh at 40 / 2mAh at 80 .The 18/20 volt Drill or Impact driver work better with a 3mAh to 5mAh battery so the 80 needed a 5mAh to 7mAh battery.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree the 40v hasn’t had the same problems so far

I have been looking into picking up a couple electric saws and I am glad I seen this video. As a business owner if I had multiple people on site using these it would kill productivity to a stop. I think the 261’s and 362’s are just fine for now, these electric saws are definitely not for commercial use. Not yet anyways...

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’ve had people give me a hard time about me saying they aren’t commercial grade but I don’t think a lot of people really know what commercial grade is nowadays. I bought the Milwaukee m18 fuel a while back and it’s daylight and dark better, I’ll have videos coming soon on it.

@leonardomigot4040

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge commercial grade Atlas chainsaw 80v is pathetic

@leonardomigot4040

2 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge the echo chainsaw cordless 58v not to safe mode use totally finish the battery

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

The echo will use the entire battery and not go into safe mode

My preference is Husqvarna but I like Stihl and Echo too. I think Echo is a great saw and very underrated. I also have the Timberwolf CS-590 and its worth its weight in gold. Its a real beast! Battery powered chainsaws have their advantages but they're limited. I think in very cold weather you may not even be able to get as far as, you did in this video. That goes for very warm weather too. I like your demonstration because the temperature is a happy medium and very comfortable cutting conditions. That being said, I don't bash battery power, for light storm debris, cutting rough lumber, clearing around a tree blind or camp I think they would be very effective. I had a 40V Ryobi for a short time. I really liked it. Gave it to my best friend's brother in law. He had a couple lawn tools that were interchangeable with the saw battery. It did great for small chores. I didn't run it to capacity like you did though.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I actually really like the saw even though it may not seem like it so much in the video but for the smaller jobs that you don’t have to use it for a long period at once it’s great. Battery will have to come a ways to come up to the CS-590 but they definitely have their place.

@woofman4796

3 жыл бұрын

my echo cs400 is over 10 years old, 18 inch bar, just had the primer bulb and fuel lines replaced along with air filter and plug, buy engine and carb going like new

Yes, the battery has built in thermal protection.

@dougbell3884

Жыл бұрын

Just get 2 batteries

I'm looking at buying the saw for home use. Harbor freight is normally good about making good on problems. Perhaps the battery is deficient .... I have an 80 volt lawnmower and 40 volt weedeater. I had a hiccup on the weedeater, and they made it good.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I may try to exchange a battery.

I think the seller's need to have a look at the battery's on the 80 volt saw as it's not able too get you across the finishing line when cutting the tree up as it should have got you right though the tree without any problems. Regards Frank a very interesting video well done cheers mate

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank!

It's probably good for a camping saw for clearing a road or 4 inch camp fire wood?

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

It actually does a good job maybe I was a little hard on it but HF was advertising it as commercial grade when the atlas series first came out but have since changed that, but it is a great saw for intermittent use, camp wood, clearing a tree out of a trail has plenty of power and runs smooth.

I was debating whether to get this 18", 80v chain saw or the DeWalt version of the 60v. Thanks to your review, I am not getting the Atlas. I think when the company claims it is commercial grade, they probably meant that its cutting performance, NOT the constant thermal break. It is very frustrating to have an equipment to constantly shutting down due to safety stand down.

@Boodieman72

4 жыл бұрын

It's a homeowner unit, something that only gets used from time to time.

@Scrotumlips

4 жыл бұрын

I ran my straight through 2 batteries second time b4 it was done it overheated. I wouldnt take this out on a crew but for house work I love this saw.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think I’m going to see if they will exchange the batteries

@Scrotumlips

4 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge I ran mine hard cutting through 30in rd oak. I took my battery out so it could cool down faster too.

Nice angel with cam in tree good show powl

It doesn't even look like the saw would be good for private use. I think that my little Homelite will run circles around it. Thanks for sharing!

@Teleman01

4 жыл бұрын

I've used this saw many many times in the past few weeks with no issues. I think it could be just his saw that's bad. I wouldn't base every single saw that comes out of all of the stores on this one review. If we did that, we wouldn't use anything as EVERY brand has a bad "apple" every once in a while.

@davidw2731

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this was a bad review. If I had done one it would be the total opposite of this. Guy picked up a bad saw at harbor freight nothing more nothing less. Mine is nothing but a powerhouses. I'll never go back to gas . I've always been annoyed but that sound. Lol

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

You should do a review

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t say the saw was bad just not commercial grade as they advertise, commercial grade means you can take it out and use it commercially like a tree service 8 hrs a day, and it will hold up to it. I’m disagreeing with the commercial part but they are a great saw for homeowner use.

@davidw2731

3 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge you done a great review. Not saying that . I am A mechanic . I use alot of cordless. And I hit the thermo protection from time to time. It is a drawback .but when they do its time for a break anyways .lol But I do agree . Its a awesome saw for home use and a small farm.

You need to get the extreme performance battery its more money

Biggest disadvantage to battery OPE is cost. Purchasing a tool only and then having to buy a battery and charger separate drives the cost through the roof(especially Stihl and Husqvarna). Also batteries are consumable items just like gas or fuel and let’s not forget tool manufacturers like to make changes that could someone high and dry.

@96cr

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, ive found most ranch saws with a good tune will out run these, i would give these to maybe someone who is older or small like my wife who cant pull start very well

Probably serviceable as a pruning saw. At half the cost of its competitors it’s not a bad deal. Not commercial grade though.

10 years and they’ll get it perfected!

@guillaumefeldman

3 жыл бұрын

Stihl are close to producing excellent larger chainsaws

@John-100

2 жыл бұрын

everything good is either 10 years away or 20 years away, recall back in the 80's in 5th grade fusion was 20 years away, today it's still 20 years away.

I haven't experienced any overheating with the batteries in my mower. I run for about 1 1/2 hours without stopping. Did you have over heating issues with the 40v?

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Actually I did, using the same battery and since I have acquired another battery and don’t seem to have the same issue. I think the first battery may be defective

@brettshannon4032

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have never had mine just die like that. I haven't tested it bucking down a tree quite that big, but it's great for around my property. Run it, lay it down, clear, and repeat. Since it doesn't run gas powered rpms i find myself snagging my chain on some little branches at the end of some cuts when all the weight pinches down, but that's it really.

@0311shep

4 жыл бұрын

@@brettshannon4032 I just bought the 80v yesterday. These videos helped me make that decision. Mind you I don't own wooded property. Just a few trees that need more than pruning from time to time.

Does the atlas chainsaw have a variable speed trigger??

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

The 80v has a variable trigger but the 40v doesn’t

Looks like Harbor Freight is over rating their Equipment again. Great review. This will be a good camp saw. Thanks

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

It would be great for that, it really is a great saw just not for continuous use.

I don't see the problem here....as long as you have about 50 chainsaws you should be able to go all day!

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

You can have battery powered saw that run continuously and are more powerful, quiter, cheaper to run, no problem starting and much easier to maintain. There ARE electric battery saws that are BETTER than gas powered saws, they do MORE than the gas saw can do. Other electric battery powered saws do NOT overheat and you just get 2 batteries. You are using one and the other one is charging in a car. Then when the first battery runs out, you just swap the batteries (half a minute and you are ready to cut again).

I just used my harbor freight pole saw to cut 3 packed down Toyota Tundra pick up loads of limbs from oak, palm and other trees. Many 2 to 4 inch limbs and a couple of 6 inch limbs. It went through them like butter and all on the same battery charge. The chain came off about 4 times but after it had stretched it no longer came off. Also it’s easier to tighten than chain saws I’ve owned. I am totally happy with the pole saw. Im considering a chain saw from harbor freight but since I no longer cut my firewood I like most homeowners, who don’t cut loads of firewood can probably just use my pole saw to cut a few smaller trees and large limbs? Also for those not comfortable with a chainsaw, there’s less possibility of a kickback or of cutting yourself as the blade is away fr your body.

You bastard I can't believe you cut a tree down I just want to hug it

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

why not use that grapple to pick it up off the ground to save your back and chain or make a cut and grapple the log to the splitter

I think you have a faulty unit. I use mine until the battery runs dead, change the battery and cut some more.

So which one would you recommend? The 40V or 80V?

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

I actually think I like the 40v better, for just all around use. But if you need that extra kick in power the 80v is stronger and faster for short periods of time, with my experience, the 80v heats the battery up and shuts off.

I've used mine 2 days straight. Mine did that once the first day . I took the battery out and back in .went on about my business. Don't get me wrong I won't be taking this saw logging. But I never go back to gas . For what I have to do around a small farm . This saw is awesome. I'd take that saw back and get a new one

Well done on this honest and non sponsored Review. This is what is called a "Disposable Tool". Battery would need replacing eventually and it's so expensive that you might as well buy a new chainsaw. Plus, I'd rather hear and feel the motor . Electric cars and motorcycles? no thanks. Nothing beats the sound and feel of a V twin, or a V 8. And if taken care of, will last long enough to pass it on to younger generations.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I kinda feel the same way but on the other hand I am intrigued by technology, if they get it right that is.

So, the saw says 80v but you had a 40v in it. Is there an 80v battery that may last longer or have a different rating?

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

I had the 80v in it, the 80v is like the flex volt in dewalt and does 80 and 40v there isn’t a dedicated 80v only

@pl747

Ай бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge the 80 volt will fit and work in the 40 volt saw?

@WilliamsonRidge

Ай бұрын

Yup

Yeah that's very funny that overheats with only that little bit of cuts do they even have a fan inside I wonder if they have a fan on the motor because if they don't that would make sense why it's overheating so fast and going in the form of protection as you said it's pretty inconvenient when you're cutting with it they need to train this stuff out if they want people to buy more of these cuz that's annoying

@WilliamsonRidge

Ай бұрын

The motor has a fan, but it is the battery that overheats so I gues if you have two batteries you could switch them out, only problem is it does take a while for the battery to cool down

I watched your video when you first purchased the 80V chainsaw and you cut firewood all the way thru the video and you didn't seem to have a problem, is the battery here the same exact battery from your first video? Just curious that maybe it's just a defective battery

@edhughes7235

3 жыл бұрын

And on Harbor Freight's site, when you select the 80V chainsaw, it's not listed as a Commercial Grade saw and after looking at the "Product Overview", it doesn't say "Commercial Grade", so at least Harbor Freight is not stating this saw is "commercial grade" ;)

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s the same battery I think the difference was what I was cutting, the second video I was using the saw continuously and the first I was checking the saw out cutting smaller stuff and giving it time between cuts

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I see that now they must have changed it because when they first came out that was a big thing they were pushing was that it was commercial grade the packaging of I remember correctly had commercial grade printed all over it

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

I have a second battery and under continuous use does the same thing

Thank you for this review. I was thinking of purchasing this HF chainsaw but have decided to purchase the Echo 590 Timberwolf for $330 dollars. I love the idea of battery powered but the long term aspect isn't there yet. Batteries go bad just sitting and most of the time Chainsaws sit. I'm fortunate enough to be able to fix most 2 cycle engines. You could have a Poulon Wildthing for the cost of one of those batteries. Still pull starting gets harder every year. Again, thank you for the great realistic usage video

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and as long as you have stabilizer in your fuel or you buy 2 cycle mix with stabilizer you won’t have problems with getting it started from season to season

@SuperJamster1

4 жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge Excellent, I usually run my motors in the fall dry.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

That works too lol!

From what you are saying it doesn't sound like the saws are the issue but the battery is not the quality it should be please let me know if I'm wrong

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

I’m thinking battery also so I picked up another one and am going to try switching them back and forth

HI there new sub here i wonder if all battery power saws work the same ?

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ve seen some really good reviews on the Milwaukee m18 fuel, I was going to get it but it was $450 and I bought the atlas 80v and 40v with batteries for about the same plus I wanted to see if they were as good as HF was saying. I would say they work similar as far as work load and overheating etc.

You have to have more then one battery. that tree was a full cut for that saw also.

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah multiple batteries is good but they are $110 each, I have a Milwaukee and an Echo battery saw that will run completely through the battery without overheating.

They probably claim it's commercial grade so they can sell more of them. BTW: can you recommend any battery powered chainsaw?

@WilliamsonRidge

10 ай бұрын

This saw is actually pretty good for lighter use but my favorite two are probably the EchoDCS-5000 and Milwaukee M18fuel kinda mid price range too Milwaukee pushing towards the higher side though

You know I have to 100% agree with you that it is not a commercial grade saw. I would consider it good enough to be retired physically disabled grade. For those people that could only go out and cut a few sticks of firewood a day. Or possibly something you would put in your truck or on an ATV just to cut one small tree out of the trail or the road. But definitely not commercial grade. That is false advertising. Which is sad I had high hopes.

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah commercial grade is something that can be used 8hrs a day, day in and day out, and hold up, definitely not commercial grade but a great around the home saw. I do believe HarborFreight has stopped advertising the atlas line as commercial grade since this video though, maybe realized they were stretching it a bit far lol.

I have a 50cc saw with a 20 inch bar and it only weighed 11 1/2 lb with gas and oil in it I have noticed those electric saws are heavier

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I just got the new 56v echo and it weighs almost 15lbs.

2023 price for additional battery is $250.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

They have two options one for $149 and one for $250

They need to put a cooling system on it lol and another battery for that lmao lol

When you look at the whole package, saw, batteries, charger, this isn’t really cheaper than the 80v Greenworks Pro 18” saw. I’d incline that direction - unless I had the money to spend on the biggest Stihl battery saw.

@matthewfoster526

4 жыл бұрын

Lane Dexter the ego is amazing as well just bought it and it rips!

@brandonsilvestrini3680

4 жыл бұрын

I bet Greenworks makes this saw, like they make the Kobalt, Snapper, etc....

@tundraboomer3372

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure they are made by Henan Best Machinery Co., Ltd., the Chinese company that makes Greenworks and other brands.

2 years and mine was shot!

@WilliamsonRidge

11 ай бұрын

That stinks mines still doing good

I'll stay with my gas saws, I don't have time to wait for that to cool down.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah kind of annoying

Seems like having 2 batteries with you, to swap out with when temp gets high, would solve that problem.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

It would help for sure, but $110 for an extra battery is a lot when they could have worked with the design a bit and kept the battery from overheating, I have other brands of battery saws that you can run a full charge to empty without them overheating, Echo DCS-5000, Milwaukee m18 fuel, and even the old 58v echo.

I got 2 batteries. that fixes that.

We’ll show me anywhere it says it’s commercial grade chain saw. It says commercial grade chain tension system.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

This video is over two years old and when harbor freight first introduced the Atlas line they were advertising it as a commercial grade line, they changed that later. Here is an ad that claims commercial grade images.app.goo.gl/R7PvMGTBVN5wvi4aA If you scroll down the page I have linked you will see many ads that say commercial grade.

Wonder how the Milwaukee saw compares to this atlas

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen a lot of good stuff on the Milwaukee, but I did some some people running it until it shut off too but I think it took a lot longer

I would take that junk back and demand a refund of all my money including the taxes

@rfdagreat9207

3 жыл бұрын

Hot Damn!!!!! LOL!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

How did you all like that green new deal 😂😂😂

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

It’s great every time I start my diesel truck or run my other 8 gas chainsaws.

@jaygoodwin5809

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamsonRidge I hear ya and it will get the job done every time 🫡

Defenitly not good not commercial grade I think I will stick with my stihl MS 661R C-M and my Stihl MS880 R Magnum gas saws it's hard to make a battery saw a commercial saw the weight ratio would be massive to hold a battery big enough to run for 2 hours minimum in the contempt of commercial use and constant cutting I think these are more or less for home owners to limb there trees in a concept for pruning

@Scrotumlips

4 жыл бұрын

Use it first an itll suprise you..

That chain doesn't look very sharp. When we cut we have a pile of shavings at each cut. Could be the reason for overheating.

You sound exactly like Johnny hiland

@WilliamsonRidge

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Johnny Hiland is an amazing guitar player!

Stick with my stihl ms 271. But if I was to use battery saw I would go with the stihl one but thats just me.

Looks like a dull chain and/or lack of oil. That will quickly cause overheating and loss of battery longevity.

@WilliamsonRidge

Жыл бұрын

It’s not dull sometimes you can’t see the wood chips good on camera and it was oiling fine

Wait until a kid gets ahold of one of those and then I see bad things happening

@Thekidsinafrica14

4 жыл бұрын

Pick up yo shit and that wouldn’t happen.

I think husqvarna has a better battery saw then atlas might want to check out there battery saws there beastly my buddy cut over 300 trees with his and cut all of them into fire wood and kindle one 2 batteries

Electric motors get hot even if they have a cord and we'll burn themselves up so it might be motor protection but yes gas saws are better

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

Seems the motor itself doesn’t heat up to much just the battery.

Battery products have there place but def not in a commercial setting

@WilliamsonRidge

Ай бұрын

Since this video was made Ego came out with one they claim as commercial grade I’m going to try to get one and put it to the test

I call it junk thanks for showing it to me Bad enough the battery will die but to stop when you are using it junk in my opinion not for me I have an 14" 40v 2ah yardworks it always cut to the battery was dead then I got a 12" 20v 5ah Dewalt it a bit slow but it cuts until the battery is dead then I put in a new battery go again Now I am looking at the New Milwaukee 14" 18v top handel comes with a 12ah and a 8ah tru it out theu say you can push hard on the milwaukee 2826-22 with the 12ah that should be nice But it will cut out with the 8ah not so good I have to pay 1091.99 for the kit not cheap better be good...

A 50cc gas saw cuts faster then that 80 volt saw

@gmeister03

4 жыл бұрын

Antonio Claudio Michael my kobalt cuz just as fast as my huski. Just needs a good chain.

@Slane583

4 жыл бұрын

I own this saw and love it for what it is. But I will say that my MS251 cuts faster as well since I run the most aggressive chain I can get for it.

See if you can find any electric saw that will cut for 12 hours even if you got to swap batteries

@WilliamsonRidge

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think the electric saws are great for just going out and clearing a tree and doing pretty much homeowner tasks but all day everyday just isn’t in the equation yet.

Just buy two batteries and when one runs hot use a cold one.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

I bought a second one, gonna see how that works out

@crystaldavis6169

4 жыл бұрын

Williamson Ridge Outdoors show us while you test it please. This could be there way of making more money. Let’s face it.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

Very true!

Just have 2 batteries and switch off so they can cool. Problem solved.

@WilliamsonRidge

4 жыл бұрын

I bought another battery and am going to try that soon.