I bought an ATA SP a few weeks back using it for DTL. 600 Shells thru it and no issues, got it 2nd hand with only a box of shells thru it as I knew the owner. Excellent buy.

Brilliant video. I took up clay shooting last year and was in the market for my first gun. After reading about a million magazines and articles and speaking to lots of people, I was determined to buy a Silver Pigeon or a Browning B525 Sporter. I was prepared to pay about £1500 but then........... I read an article about the ATA arms SP Sporter which gave it excellent reviews. I went to Sportsman gun centre and tried it and instantly loved it. It felt great, seemed well built and just felt really nice overall - and the best bit, it was a tad under £600. I went for the non-adjustable black 30inch as it fit really well without any need for further tweaking. I love it. I've put about 1000 clays through it and it feels great and in fact it feels better overtime I use it as it is loosening up a little. On a day out recently I was lucky enough to shoot my ATA, a Silver Pigeon and a Miroku MK70 and I really felt like my ATA held its own. Comments from fellow shooters who tried it were very positive too. I think you make a very fair point about resale value which is never going to be anywhere near the Berreta, For me, if I buy another gun in the future I'd keep the ATA as a back up rather than take £250 for it I think. Having said that, I'm so happy with it I'm not looking to upgrade anytime soon. I saved £900 on my original budget which I was able to put into lessons, gear and cartridges, so for me it was a winner. Love my ATA SP Sporter and for a first gun I think its hard to beat.

@lloydyp

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying the show. :)

@pearldrummerbrx

6 жыл бұрын

marc Moyle Hi mate, have you had any issues with misfiring when the selector is bottom barrel first???

@mjmboddhi

6 жыл бұрын

pearldrummerbrx Hi there. No, I can honestly say none at all.

@monkeytennis1972

6 жыл бұрын

pearldrummerbrx have with mine. Had to go back to Sportsman Gun Centre for a new trigger mech. A known issue apparently

@jacobaddis2644

5 жыл бұрын

@@pearldrummerbrx YES I've been looking everywhere for someone brining this point up about the misfire I get, it's very annoying. Id just like to know how often it happens etc thanks

Great video , I bought an ATA 686B a while back for farm work & bush hunting , for the money I spent , I am very happy. I probably wouldn't recommend it for competition , but it definitely works well as an agricultural control piece. I also won't be shedding any tears over dings and scratches to it , as I would if I had dumped $3000 into a nicer Beretta.

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

thanks Dan.

I just bought the silver pigeon 1 sporter love it comes with 30" barrels and balance well.

Thank you so much for making what for me has been a real decision making nightmare, into something I can now make sense of. I am a complete novice, so much so that my certificate has not been agreed yet. I have taken 2 lessons so far and plan to continue providing the FA inspection next week goes well. I have been ploughing through different reviews, taking sought after advice and honestly felt that my head was going to explode with all the differing suggestions and opinions even though I appreciate the time others have taken answer my questions. I am a more mature chappie just coming into the sport, so I doubt I will still be shooting in 20 years lol. Secondly I am on quite a tight budget and £600 for my first gun was the limit. I had settled on a second hand Lanber v ATA Sporter and did not quite know what to do. The Lanber although second hand and much older came on good advice, but the gun shop did mention the ATA and its 3 year warranty as a new first gun. Resale value is of no consequence because if I should get past a one Sunday shoot a month for a bit of fun, I would probably look to invest in a first gun and keep the ATA as a cheap second. Your review, from someone who has a wealth of experience, shoots regularly, has no doubt tried a vast selection of different guns of varied quality came across as an unbiased honest review and one which I have confidence in. Should my home visit tick a box and my certificate be granted, I will have no worries about looking at the ATA with a view to it being a suitable gun for my needs. Many Thanks.

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gary, glad you enjoy the show :)

Just bought the ATA and my brother bought a 3 grand Rizzini. We used them both for the first time today and the ATA came out on top 🤣

I’ve just bought an ata, just felt right to me. New guns also have a warranty obviously.

The face you pulled when you mentioned the trigger of the ata made me lol haha. Great video man 👍🏻

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s just say I don’t play poker.

A helpful video. Many thanks Lloyd!

@lloydyp

4 жыл бұрын

Many thanks man.

Great video. Objective comments. Thank you for that helpful rewiev.. By the way "Bakım Yagi" means maintenance oil (for woodwork) 😊 greetings from Turkey..

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man :) that's a mystery solved.

Really enjoyed that, very informative and well balanced.

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Simon

Another great video.......keep em coming Lloyd, and don't forget the Blaser F3 !!.......lol

@lloydyp

7 жыл бұрын

MegaFrank1960 lol it's coming frank, don't worry ;)

thanks Lloyd!

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

1st shotgun I bought was Baikal, fixed chokes double barrel and cost I think £110. Which at tge time was probably a week and a halfs wages at 18 years old. Couple of years later I bought a beretta 687 fixed choke (£700) but had it sent of to be multi chocked before picking it up. Then came a browning medalist, financially reasons mean in and out of the sport(mortgages kids etc) Then a beretta 682 gold E (£2,200) and had a recoil reducer fitted to the stock. This is the gun I put my bests scores in with. Following moving to Australia I bought a browning Gp 10 years ago for $2,500au. The ups and downs of life are on the up side now lol and getting back into shooting more regularly and a possible upgrade is on the cards.

Very informative review Lloyd, well delivered as always. It's nice to see two similar guns in different price ranges sompared to see where corners may be cut etc. Oh, i think the ATA is £600!

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

£600 you say?

Great content. Keep it up!

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Tbh, i bought an ATA 4 years ago when i first got into clay shooting. I've had firearms for quite a number of years before that. But as a first shotgun, its been great. Reliable, i don't miss much at all, and for 700 quid i paid, im more than happy. Its downed many a crow, and pigeon. But you are correct in the quality stakes. If your after a gun that a first gun. The ATA is great. Im just in the process of buying the new 525SL. Its a different animal altogether so I'll keep the ATA for my permissions, and use the 525SL for clay busting.

@istorichunter8807

4 жыл бұрын

I just want to buy ATA SP the price in my country 4 times cheaper than Browning 525 or Beretta silver pigeon. Do you think it is a good choice? And is true that Browning and Beretta are significantly better?

@Tpviper

4 жыл бұрын

@@istorichunter8807 Hi, to be perfectly honest with you, the ATA as first gun is faultless. It'll do whatever you want it to do. Remember, do you want it for vermin, or purely for clay busting. If so, i highly recommend the 30inch version. A friend of mine has just bought one. And tbh, its quality is head and shoulders above mine. The 525 is a better quality gun, no doubt about it. But, again, it depends what you want for your money. As a budget gun you cannot fault ATA. But remember, if you want to Px/sell it, You'll get next to nothing for it. So if you can stretch to a 525, it would be a better bet in the long run. But saying that, mine is a fantastic starter gun. Im now looking at stepping up to a better quality gun, ie the 525SL, or the Mk38 Grade 5. I hope this helps you. Please feel free to ask any questions.

@bsar10mk2

4 жыл бұрын

I have done the same i had the ata sp as a first gun and for the money it was brilliant but I now have the 525sl and yes a different animal all together but a lot more money 👍

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Aye, as long as you buy one with your eyes open re the likely future value, you will be fine.

@istorichunter8807

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tpviper thank you for your comment very appreciate it

Great vid. Just bought an ATA and to be perfectly honest, having had the 686 I actually prefer the ATA. Built like a tank and I think it's better balanced too.

@privateconfidential424

6 жыл бұрын

Radio Buyer ii

@magnificumimperium8392

5 жыл бұрын

Who sells the ATA in the USA..?

@reece4657

4 жыл бұрын

what is the recoil like on the ATA?

@fullchoke01

3 жыл бұрын

Hows it built like a tank if its a cheaply made knockoff of beretta design. Not saying they are crap because for 600£ they are a well specd gun, but it is nowhere near the quality of a 686 in tooling, materials and metallurgy

@paulreid7129

2 жыл бұрын

Bought the same gun a few weeks back ATA SP and used it on competition down the line, it did well. No issues, got it like new 2nd hand knew the guy who had it. He shot one box of cartridges through it. I have shot 5 boxes in 2 weeks, no issues.

Nice gun . Well worth it , shoots well and has a nice feel to it

I find it interesting that in the UK they come in a cardboard box. They're $950 here and come with a plastic case 5 year warranty chokes etc.

@Tpviper

4 жыл бұрын

No they dont. Mine came with a proper Abs case.

Thanks for the review I just bought one second hand & looking forward to getting into clay shooting .

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man.

as the time has gone by the fact that the ata is steel proofed has become more relevant excellent review of both guns

I got one, stuck some decent teague chokes in it and use decent shells (Gamebore blu diamond) and it shoots REALLY well.

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@doomfathertm8771

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp I saw some pattern testing done with low quality chokes VS high quality chokes and there was a small difference. Also same with ammo, the cheaper ammo didn't pattern as well as the better ammo with either hardened shot or diamond shot or something similar. So, my ATA mite not shoot or handle like my uncles Perazzi, but it actually patterns just as good.

After 6 years of the review. It is time to say you were right Lloyd ATA became a new Hyundai 😊

Would be interesting for you to do a comparison again and see if ata made changes I have a ata sp sporter laminate I found the ata to be really good . Also the resale value they are still holding money because they are in high demand my local gun shop said as soon as they get them in they sell out straight away pushing 2nd hand demand up

Well reviewed.

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

At this year's game fair the ata was flying off the shelves

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

I can imagine

Great review by Mr Pattison! Has anyone experience of ATA's service and parts back-up in UK?

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Me gusto tu vídeo , yo tengo una atta sp , la cual estoy muy contento ya que me acomode bien con ella y es de excelentes materiales el cañón y la bascula , nunca me ha fallado, la obtuve por un precio muy accesible y pega de maravilla en el sporting clay a doble disco

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

gracias por ver

Beretta definitely 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@bobbythompson3544

4 жыл бұрын

Tudor Wyn Phillips Not according to GUN SHOP VIDEO

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Depends what you want out of the gun really.

Bună seara cât costă o armă cal 12?

Nice video! Can you do a review of the Rizzini br 110?

@lloydyp

7 жыл бұрын

Don't know if I will be able to lay hands on one, they don't seem to be terribly available in the UK. Also they seem to be available only in 410, 28, and 20ga.

@jnsl5772

7 жыл бұрын

I understand. Do you have any experiences with Rizzini that you would like to share?

@lloydyp

7 жыл бұрын

Sorry Jonas, I have never shot one. I will keep my eyes open however.

I'm not sure you are interested in camera tech but a remote microphone with a fury cover would help a lot to make the sound sound better. Otherwise a absolut fantastic video. I really enjoyed it.

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

This video is quite old, watch one of my more recent episodes.

Lloyd...good video...I just bought the same gun...it has an adjustable stock...comes in a hard plastic case...and has a 5 year warranty...in Australia it cost $1090 ...the oil bottles are for repairing the wood the little bottle is a hardener for the oil in the big bottle...it also came with two pieces of sand paper ..so you actually get a wood repair kit...like you said ..it's not a beretta ...but its pretty good.

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Roger.

Can you please do a shooting glasses review

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, look for my Pilla review.

In ten years the 686 is still worth 600 quid! The ATA, no. A guy showed up at our club last Tuesday night with a brand new Wby Orion (ATA SP) and the action wouldn't lock up without pushing the top lever over manually. Not a broken spring as there was spring pressure, probably just poorly finished parts inside that needed some smoothing but with this kind of QC I'll take the old 686 every time.

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah as I have stated in other comments the ata has not had a good showing on the reliability front. I suspect used values will reflect this. An old 686, or a 525 is safe money and depreciation proof if you look after them.

ok... what can you say about Caesar Guerini Figura vs Beretta 686 )

@lloydyp

6 жыл бұрын

The Figura, based on what I have seen is 6.5lb gun, that's a good pound and a half lighter than the 686. They are very different guns.

@yuriys.6352

6 жыл бұрын

Caesar Guerini Figura 6.72lb Caesar Guerini Figura Light 5.95lb

very fair test both guns are good . beretta 686 top gun old or new

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tony

Little bottle of White Grease for the hinge area & bigger bottle of gun oil for the firing pins!

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

You speak Turkish?

Is ATA SP safe for high performance steel shot?

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry I don't know if they are steel proofed. Try getting in touch with your local dealer or distributor, or indeed ATA direct.

@veganfem4862

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it is. I use my ata to shoot game for my hawks which are prone to lead poisoning. Not all of the standard chokes are steel proof though.

Hi Everyone, has anyone had any issues with the ATA SP misfiring when the selector is on bottom barrel first?? I put 100 cartridges through one and it misfired 4 times!

@jackgotzheim6073

6 жыл бұрын

pearldrummerbrx I have just got an ATA and mine misfired when the selected was top barrel first

@pearldrummerbrx

6 жыл бұрын

jack gotzheim Hi thanks for reply. That’s not good. I’ve had mine about a month and put around 1250 cartridges through it and it’s been fine. Only used bottom barrel first but I’ll always have it that way. Haven’t tried it top first. What will you do about the misfire?

@jackgotzheim6073

6 жыл бұрын

pearldrummerbrx the gun shop I brought it from have said they will have a look at it to see what is Wong and send it back to distributors to have a closer inspection

@pearldrummerbrx

6 жыл бұрын

jack gotzheim That’s a shame that’s happened. It is truly a fantastic gun and I cannot fault it for the money. There is a batch I think that does misfire. Where did you buy your ATA? Obviously it’s no fault of the shop, was just wondering. Once you know the issue please let me know

@jackgotzheim6073

6 жыл бұрын

pearldrummerbrx I got mine from gun and country in Swanbourne no problems will let you know

anyone know what the recoil is like for the ATA

@lloydyp

4 жыл бұрын

It's fine Very similar feel to a 686.

Great gun and feels like an arm extension, very well balanced and comfortable. Too many gun snobs out there!

Do ATA make a 28b?

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

Wow, that’s a lot of grease on you hinge pin slots and in the bottom of the action. Any reason why so much?

@lloydyp

6 жыл бұрын

Walkedspoon grease is cheap, guns ain’t. I’d rather have plenty grease on the pins and change it regularly than not.

Beretta 686 special in a lot better they just don't make them like they used to.👍👍

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

agreed

How much

@lloydyp

5 жыл бұрын

I assume that's a joke? I mention quite a few times in the vid that its 650 quid :)

I'd pick that Beretta over that ata any day Beretta would still out last it

@samhaveaguess4284

6 жыл бұрын

John Kelly and the after sales service from Beretta crap all over any other gun manufacturer! ! Well im my contry anyhow !! You get free measure and fit at factory after you buy it !! Also they have free liftime service for them as well now !! And the the resell value is absolutely fantastic !! And you will never have a problem getting parts for a beretta either if you should for some reasons need them !!!

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Haveaguess You are so correct about the after sales service

ATA’s come with 3 year warranty.

Самый хороший ружье! The nicest shotgun! DÜNYADA ATA ARMSDAN BAŞKASI YOK

@fullchoke01

2 жыл бұрын

What's ata arms?

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Turkish gun maker. Google it.

@fullchoke01

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp was having a joke with him he commented asking what a miroku was other week on another channel as if to say they where nothing

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, sorry.

@fullchoke01

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp all good mr P, hope all is well

I bought the 686 first.....then bought the Ata lol.....The Ata is my son's practice/beater hunting gun....I enjoy them both and they both have their place for me....

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

If it's not fun, theres no point doing it.

I know this video is well old but hey it's amazing what you can rewatch during lockdowns haha, great content and a really good comparison, the first gun question rages on amd at 700£ marks there isn't too much out there and it's usually new turkish vs 30yr old miroku, winchester, b guns nikko etc. I personally say take the risk on an older gun with heritage, they were made very well in those years before high volume production took off. Ata etc are ok guns but they just feel graunchy and cheap in hand and are built to last their warranty. Plus second hand is supporting gun shops more

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Man I cringe when I look back at these older videos however I agree with you, I would always go for a used good gun vs a new cheap gun. Same for a car, a camera, or whatever else.

@fullchoke01

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp haha they are all good videos mate 👍 loved the auto safety though haha, yes just buy smart, condition is more important than age with double guns, highly doubt you will be making a video in 2040 comparing a 30 yr old ata vs new beretta , just not made to same standards

Always go Berreta

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you can go Batman, always go Batman.

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp you will have to explain that one to me mate

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 lol sorry man it's a meme: pics.me.me/always-be-yourself-unless-you-can-be-batman-then-always-6139355.png

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

3 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp I still dont get 🤔must be an age thing👍👍👍

i like haw much

My buddy shoots an 09 686 white onyx. Conservatively 20k rounds through it and not a single issue. Heck, I shot it today at one station and it looks and feels great. I doubt the ATA would be that reliable.

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

20k is barely broken in.

You need a woolly muff ............ for your mic!

@lloydyp

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Molesworth I use a Rode dead cat on my shotgun mic, it made no difference in that day it was so windy.

@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069

6 жыл бұрын

Everyone needs a wooley muff

cannot hear you for wind!

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

124,000 other people disagree.

I only shoot cheep guns as im not a gun snob.. it doesn't really matter what gun you have it's down to the person shooting it... ive had a old rust covered dirt cheep parker h under n over for £120 plus cheep Russian cartridges and beat everyone on the abt with there brownings n berrettas... also done this in archery ive used an old mid priced compound bow for 12yrs looks tatty not flash and i was shooting for the England squad and won 4 euro champs with it... my opposition had hoyt n win win etc new bows every year or 6 months its all the same its who's behind the the kitt... Ive just purchased the latest ATA super sporter £800 fantastic gun shoots a dream, cant really see the point in spending thousands on a gun unless it's all to do with showing off or gun snobbery... yes i agree a berretta is better made and better workmanship. End of the day there all boom sticks enjoy...

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

Out of interest what years did you win and what discipline? E.g. Target, field, 3D?

@squashedflyracing2310

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ok IFFA FIELD Scotland world/European combined championship's 2002 2nd in the world & 1st in the euros. IFAA euros Finland 2003 1st IFAA wales 2009 1st...IFAA 2010 national bowhunter champ 3D . IFAA European indoor championship spain 2013 1st welsh open champ 1999 My shooting style ADULT compound bowhunter limited. All shot with 2 tatty old bows. S.harvey

@lloydyp

2 жыл бұрын

@@squashedflyracing2310 I shot FITA Field / Target, thought we might have crossed paths but you were on the other side of the sport.

@squashedflyracing2310

2 жыл бұрын

@@lloydyp yes fita field i know it..i was going to shoot that but in fita field they never had my shooting style as ive always shot with fingers and a release aid was needed i think... chris white etc shot fita field and IFAA... as we shot at the same club years ago at Oakland's roy mundons ground... closed down now.

As soon as you said the ATA has an auto safety, it was 1-0 to the old Beretta, as a clay gun. Berettas hold their value, where you love or hate them. Turkish guns are good, but they don't hold value. Selling the Beretta, even though it's over 30 years old, will be a much easier proposition in a couple of years than the ATA. Why? Who knows, it's just how it is.

Another great video.......keep em coming Lloyd, and don't forget the Blaser F3 !!........lol

@lloydyp

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Frank