Congrats on acquiring and reviewing this one. Fantastic Zenith!

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, Nenad! I appreciate your support of my review-only channel. Best, Tim

Love 💕 the foudroyante & the mechanism on this awesome 😎 chronograph. I like the rose gold version with brown strap.

I've been waiting for your review of this engineering masterpiece. I see the hublot look case design you stated. The skeleton dial looks very nice. Thanks Tim, superb review.

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, Sebastian! I was eager to get my hands on this one. It's perhaps more of an anthology of LVMH design and technology rather than a true Zenith product. For me, the 2010-2016 era of Zenith was a great one for product design, product value, and innovation. I'm a bit sad to see that the roadmap for the future seems like a rather generic expression of the LVMH group's tropes. Best, Tim

@brunovrancic8330

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know about Hublot, but Zenith had that case shape 40-50 years ago, and than in 2009...

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Only in the most abstract sense. This case form is used with variation across the LVMH lines, and the combination with open dial and leather/rubber strap clearly draws more heavily on Hublot's current practice than what Zenith did with the A384/5 in the early 1970s. Best, Tim

@rgassaf1

5 жыл бұрын

Bruno Vrančić agree completely... Zenith has been using this case way before Hublot even existed.

Congrats on your new Day Fi

Tim isn’t 36,000 vph 10hz not 5? And isn’t the chrono 100 hz? Love your stuff. Addicted to your channel Will, fellow watch nerd

Beautiful watch!!!! How many seconds lost per day? It’s cosc tested? Thanks a lot!!!

Hi Tim, what's your opinion of Biver-style watches? 44+mm, skeleton dial, material fusion on the case (e.g. ceramic + steel), and material fusion on the strap (e.g. leather + rubber). He releases these kinds of watches through every company he touches (Hublot, TAG Heuer, now Zenith). Is he a modern-day Genta?

I've been waiting since last year for any watch journalist to do a review. Tim has answered. I think it's the best chronograph under 10k and the only watch that is similar in technology is the breguet 7077 independent chronograph (Tim please review this watch😁) but that costs nearly 80k!

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for these kind words, Sourabh! I tried to be as thorough as possible in order to ensure that all questions are answered. I will be on the lookout for the Breguet 7077 so that a review happens as soon as the watch arrives. Best, Tim

@0xss

6 жыл бұрын

WatchBox Reviews thank you Tim! Am I correct in assuming that the chronograph is manually wound while the Civil timekeeping is powered by the rotor?

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

That's correct, and that is the one detail that I wish had been more clear in the video. The automatic system winds the time of day only, and the chronograph is manually wound via roughly 25 turns of the crown. Best, Tim

Beautiful watch obviously. It appears to be difficult to read the time without really studying it.

I'd love to see that caliber encased in something closer to the usual El Primero watches we're accustomed to, even if it looks way too big to do it.

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the solid dial variant of this watch? It's more palatable for traditionalists like you and me. I agree that the case and the open dial scream "Hublot" in ways that put me off. Best, Tim

@valebliz

6 жыл бұрын

WatchBox Reviews yes the solid dial i find way more pleasing, probably in 42mm it would make a lot of guys happy. The technical content is extremely interesting for what they charge imho. But Tim, you surely are no traditionalist in style choices lol

Is that a rubber material band around the metal crown?!

how did you find out they are not using carbon nanotube composite?

HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEET! Sweeeeeeeeeet!!@ astonishing ......

A skeleton watch on your wrist = you are an 100% mechanical watches lover. 😊

Very cool watch! I’ve never understood why a 1/100 sec chronograph exists. I guess just a curiosity so the watchmaker can say he did it!

@itsalgud1459

4 жыл бұрын

@@MPD90 To me the reason is the same as why we admire classic cars and old furniture, the amazing engineering, art and talent that went into creating them.

So .....how can you tell the seconds on that chronograph?

Unfortunately this is too big for my 6.66" wrist. This is the first Defy model whose case and overall design actually look appealing.

Thanks very much Tom. Sorry some questions might be stupid. But can you please answer. thanks: which hand does what?, for the second hand, is the zero position marked (so when you hack the seconds, how do you zero it with atomic clock? If you over wind the two movements, does both of them have over-winding protection?, when the chronograph is engaged, if you try to press the reset button, is the button locked and can not be pressed? or it presses and nothing happens? I missed if the watch gets magnetized the 2nd hair spring of the chronograph gets effected? The watch is chronometer COSC standard right? does this certification applies to both the chronograph and the watch movements? Last but not the least. Personally speaking do you think that from next year or so would they launch models with this movement that also contains day/daydate or tripple calendar complications? thanks very much Tim.

@jbaytas

6 жыл бұрын

MHUH H having the second hand at 0 is irrelevant as it will go round 60 seconds if the minute hand is in right place when you set it. Hope that makes sense!

Speechless

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Great Lakes Watch, and thank you for viewing my video! Did I cover everything you wanted to know about this Defy El Primero 21? Best, Tim

Great review! What’s up with the hairspring? Can you really announce a watch with a set of features and then take them back? It’s not like with an iPhone where you can download new firmware. Do you see this one going for 5-7k second hand in a few years?

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

This isn't unheard of. I recall that JLC originally promised a silicon hairspring for the Extreme Lab 2 but decided to go with a conventional unit due to thermal variance or durability concerns. Also, Patek Philippe initially declared the the innovative 5235G would have a 60-hour power reserve only to peg that back by about 15 hours prior to the release of the watch. However, I do believe that customers who had ordered the Zenith should have been allowed to withdraw their deposits if they didn't receive what they expected; I would want that privilege as a watch collector. Best, Tim

What happens to the night view? Fantastic video!!

@the1916companywatchreviews

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! As for night view do you mean a lume shot? Tim tries to get one whenever he can but can't always get one. - WatchBox Team

@mariosl3522

5 жыл бұрын

@@the1916companywatchreviews yes that's what I ment :)

Wow that movement just wow . Just when I thought my seiko spring drive was the cats meow

@the1916companywatchreviews

5 жыл бұрын

😮🐱😱 - WatchBox Team

@phillippugh2161

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Smith I agree

@jukebox1794

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Smith is the spring drive fully automatic as well?

@jukebox1794

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Smith not automatic. got it.

@jukebox1794

5 жыл бұрын

@Tom Smith by your criteria of what makes "better", an apple watch is better, it takes so many different metrics and vitals, and not to mention wireless connectivity. gotcha. thanks again for the info.

Love that watch - but here’s a thought - pop in it an AP Royal Oak style case

the movement, dial, buckle, build quality are all great. I want to like it I really do, but this watch looks like a Hublot or a Hublot looks like a modern Zenith, I am not quite sure anymore. The strap is too wide and the case is snapping at the heels of a Royal Oak... 🤓

@the1916companywatchreviews

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, thank you for viewing and sharing your thoughts. I feel as you feel. Technically, this is an accomplished package. Aesthetically, it's Hublot. The solid dial version of this watch is the rarest variant of a still scarce model, and I believe that you would enjoy it more than the open-dial variant. The solid dial is my favorite version, and objectively, it simply looks more like a Zenith to my eyes. Best, Tim

The printing/sticker on the sapphire ruined the watch.

@phillippugh2161

5 жыл бұрын

To each there own ...there's a boring looking Rolex with your name on it . With might I add with about the same movement and looks sence the 60s . I personally love how other watch makers are moving the needle

Does Zenith have any affiliation with Hublot?

@lucaimwinkelried2276

4 жыл бұрын

They are both part of LVMH

Jayzuz!....Biver, leave Zenith alone for gods sake!

I log on

Fortunately you are not in the car industry ... You would be able to boast the performance of a motor in ... SPRING! Idea of Leonardo da Vinci!

Heureusement que vous n'êtes pas dans la construction automobile... Vous seriez capable de nous vanter les performances d'un moteur à...RESSORT ! Idée de Leonardo da Vinci !

The presenter seems obsessed with centimeters and millimeters.

Engineering marvel with very little desirability and even less value retention, people in Zenith marketing just don’t seem to know what they’re doing. Rolex would have spread these technological advancements over 5 generations but everything would be about tradition and prestige, Zenith sucks at that. And Hublot DNA, who the fuck wants to have a Hublot, for fuck’s sake

Please change the style of review

It is too Hublot.

@jukebox1794

5 жыл бұрын

how?

@robertlulek1634

3 жыл бұрын

People crack me up when they say it is too much hublot and everybody knocks hublot. It is just that people are stupid and will pay premium prices for watches that are limited and the ones who benefit are the makers of these watches like Rolex for example and mostly Richard Mill e.well Richard Mill watches are good watches they certainly are not worth the staggering amounts of money that people are paying for these things.I'll give you an example I had a rose gold spirit of Big bang diamond encrusted watch in Atlantic City. I was playing at the high rollers table $100 table and I had a crowd gathered around me and I heard the whisperings he's wearing a Richard Mille watch. I went along with the charade lol. People are so stupid and impressed by things that they can never have and people that do have the money are foolish enough to spend money on those things just to say I can have it and you can't. In fact if you take a hublot watch and put it next to a Richard Mill I'll take the hublot over it!I mean they practically look alike and many of the h u b l o t watches look even better and are much cheaper. Just because you can buy it easily in a store does not make it a piece of s***.just like a Rolex watch sells for a lot of money and if you compare it to a zenith a zenith gives it 52 Swift kicks ass if you compare the zenith El primera 21 versus Daytona chronograph.but because Rolex are master marketers of their brand people are willing to pay the prices for a very good watch no doubt but it is not a better watch than an El primero. In fact Rolex used zeniths El primero mechanism in their first Daytona watches.Again people are ridiculous paying premiums for watches that are not worth the money