At Last! The RIGHT Way to Pronounce Y & LL in Spanish
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I've never heard the "LL" pronounced with the "L" sound even in Spain. More great teaching - gracias profe
@GetFluentinSpanish
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De nada. I bet you could find some videos of people in Bogotá Colombia and in Arequipa, Peru pronouncing the ll like that and definitely in Spain.
Thank you
@GetFluentinSpanish
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De nada.
Hi, thanks for this. I learnt to say the ll like a y with some subtle j at times. My teacher was Mexican. It makes sense to try to sound more like the spanish speaking country you most want to associate with..i guess that goes too for vocabulary..
@GetFluentinSpanish
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Gracias por tu comentario.
This is a very good video! Because of my accent, I pronounce the consonants /ll/ and /y/ the same, so I'm a yeísta. Therefore, the sound I use for both consonants is /ʝ/ So both “pollo” and “poyo” are words that I pronounce exactly the same although they are spelled differently and their meanings are different.
@GetFluentinSpanish
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That's great!
@carolinaop5641
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Yes. I am Spanish and I pronounce them the same way.
My preference is the Adalusian way, and in this instance the Spanish way (versus the J sound). For the TH, sound I also prefer el accento de Adalucia!
@GetFluentinSpanish
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Sounds good.
@carolinaop5641
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It is easier for English speakers, I agree. Some of my students feel uncomfortable saying the /th/ sound for 'ce' and 'ci' or 'za', 'zo', 'zu' as they think they sound like having a lisp.
@angreagach
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@@carolinaop5641 On the other hand, it might help with spelling.
@angreagach
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Actually, parts of Andalucia use the th sound, some even for s (called ceceo). See the article "Phonological history of Spanish coronal fricatives" on Wikipedia, especially the final map.
@JohnRPike
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@@angreagach very interesting. Thanks for sharing!!
My girlfriend from Bogota pronouces bith ll an y as j
@GetFluentinSpanish
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Thank you. I appreciate the feedback.
The "y" pronunciation ("yeismo") is now usual even in much of Spain. Your description of the "ly" pronunciation ("lleismo") is somewhat misleading: it is not two successive sounds, but a single sound, called a "voiced palatal lateral approximant," like the gli in Italian words like "figlio." This is also used in other languages, including by some English speakers in words like "million" (by those who do not say "mill-yun"). When I studied Spanish in college in the mid '60s, one of my teachers said that yeismo was regarded as substandard. I doubt if that is the case nowadays. I prefer "lleismo" personally, without judging any other pronunciation. I'm sure nobody counts it against me. See the excellent Wikipedia articles on "yeismo," which has an excellent map, and on the "voiced palatal lateral approximant."
@carolinaop5641
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I agree with your comment regarding the sound in Spain. It is not exactly like it is in the video. This man is an 'eminencia' though. His Spanish is so... good ❤
@angreagach
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@@carolinaop5641 I never meant to suggest that it wasn't. It's no doubt far superior to mine!
@angreagach
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Actually the voiced palatal lateral approximant seems to be unstable in any language. It has also been replaced with y in standard French and Hungarian, though it survives dialectally in both languages. Some English speakers even pronounce "million" as "mi-yun"!
@carolinaop5641
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@@angreagach no, I know you didn't :)
@GetFluentinSpanish
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That's very kind. Muy amable.