Asustor Lockerstor Gen3 NAS - ULTIMATE HYBRID NAS?

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00:00 - Mix Things Up...
01:06 - The Start
02:05 - Why the Lockerstor Gen3 Stands Out?
02:46 - Internal Hardware
03:52 - ECC Memory On Board
04:43 - Storage Potential
05:33 - 24TB Compatibility
05:51 - True Hybrid Storage
07:12 - External Connections
07:57 - Why 5GbE?
08:57 - A 30GbE 4-Bay Desktop NAS!!!!
10:14 - Support of Adding MORE 10GbE?
11:11 - ADM Support?
11:50 - TrueNAS and UnRAID Installation?
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  • @xellaz
    @xellaz24 күн бұрын

    I still have no regrets backing UGreen's 8-bay and 6-bay NAS after watching this video. 🤪

  • @jodajackson4489
    @jodajackson448925 күн бұрын

    Nice one. Looking forward to the Asustor Q&A

  • @davelamont
    @davelamont25 күн бұрын

    Once you go ZFS, you never go back. BTRFS is okay, but ZFS is awesome.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    I'm pushing hard for the company to open a ZFS feasibility study.

  • @wagnonforcolorado
    @wagnonforcolorado25 күн бұрын

    Good to see that Asustor and some other "new" players have pushed the HW capabilities on NAS units. Looking at so much of the competition that was based on generations old Celerons, 1G ethernet, and in many cases limited or non-existent RAM upgrade options were less than exciting. NAS units have potential to be used for so much more than raw storage. Synology and QNAP need to up their game. Thanks Capitalism!

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT25 күн бұрын

    2:14 Our 5GbE ports are blue! Cause everyone knows blue stars are hotter than red stars ;)

  • @rael_gc

    @rael_gc

    25 күн бұрын

    It'd be nice single 10GbE port on entry model, 2x 10GbE on top level.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    @@rael_gc The lockerstor Gen3 series all have the same number and type of Ethernet ports.

  • @BigBoxLittleBox
    @BigBoxLittleBox25 күн бұрын

    One future test I would like to see is running Plex on these and testing CPU-based transcoding - maybe a couple of transcoding sessions will be supported with raw CPU power?

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT25 күн бұрын

    10:34 - Our intention is to support the AS-T10G3 in our PCI Express socket.

  • @MlkeT

    @MlkeT

    25 күн бұрын

    Hey :) is there a 12-bay version also coming?

  • @Mae-nr7wr

    @Mae-nr7wr

    25 күн бұрын

    any support for btrfs yet? or zfs

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    @@Mae-nr7wr Btrfs is standard on all x86 ASUSTOR NAS devices. ZFS not yet.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    19 күн бұрын

    @@MlkeT The twelve bay one is standard at the moment. We're not sure of a six bay model.

  • @robertj1138
    @robertj113824 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Have a great day!

  • @fwiler
    @fwiler25 күн бұрын

    I hope you can bring this out soon. There is pent up demand for fast affordable storage.

  • @praetorxyn
    @praetorxyn25 күн бұрын

    Yeah. I have a MS-01 (still waiting on the RAM and SSDs to come in) for QuickSync, so I am thinking it makes more and more sense to have an Intel mini PC for Docker containers to host Jellyfin / Emby / Plex, and a separate NAS (preferably TrueNAS Scale with ECC support) for storage,as Intel is just too limiting. To have an Intel platform with features that compete with AMD and still have hardware transcoding, they'd need to use the W680 chipset, which is very expensive motherboard wise.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT
    @ASUSTOR_YT25 күн бұрын

    We're back for more! Which Synology video did I bump this time? As always, ask me anything!

  • @nascompares

    @nascompares

    25 күн бұрын

    If you must know, you delayed a video on whether you can run a NAS powered by a power bank and another video on a pocket sized Thunderbolt 4 docking station...and it's fine... PERFECTLY FINE! *sulks profusely*

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    @@nascompares Don't worry. Lockerstor's USB4 more than makes up for it.

  • @hhuey5
    @hhuey515 күн бұрын

    Does Asustor require ups that gives simulated sine wave power vs square wave from cheaper APC BE550

  • @blizbiggy
    @blizbiggy25 күн бұрын

    As a Gen 2 user, this is promising.

  • @hspank
    @hspank25 күн бұрын

    USB-C 3.2 adapters supporting IEEE standard 802.3bz (5GBASE-T) are being phased out and chipsets supporting NBASE-T PHYs such as Aquantia AQC111U, Realtek RTL8156 are in extremely short supply, as is USB-C 3.2 2x2 with 20GBit bandwidth beyond the limited use case of external SSD enclosures. The current power requirements and upgrade costs for 10Gbit infrastructure just to have an external storage option for larger HDD arrays cached with SDDs providing continuous 2.5GB/sec data streams is more than a niche for iSCSI and IP over USB solutions as a cost effective missing link from AV editing to minipc home servers & proxmox servers. (external hdd array and local ssd caching near to the docker containers)

  • @Ancipital_
    @Ancipital_23 күн бұрын

    I don't care about integrated graphics if it has a serial port? Does it support ZFS or some custom Linux? I really *really* hope so.

  • @Mae-nr7wr
    @Mae-nr7wr25 күн бұрын

    nice but do they support btrfs yet?

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    We have supported Btrfs for years.

  • @anthonyspahr584
    @anthonyspahr58423 күн бұрын

    Soooo, when are “I hate seagulls” t-shirts available for purchase? Get on it , Robby!😂

  • @davemckewan4450
    @davemckewan445019 күн бұрын

    I replaced my Synology DS918+ with a 6704T Gen 2. Not sure I agree with the OS not being as good as DSM but it's a learning curve for sure. My use case might be a little different from others as I don't use Plex, containers etc and I mainly use it for storage. I added memory, an SSD cache and 4x14TB WD Reds (in RAID 5) and big files are a breeze (2.5Gbps to my PC). I was able to both add a new drive and upgrade from R1 to R5 (took about 50 hours though). Bringing on the 4th drive 'only' took about 36 hours... All in all, I doubt I'll go back to Synology and when my dj220 eventually dies it'll be replaced with either one of these (in 2 bay) or a Terramaster 2 bay.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    19 күн бұрын

    Thank you for your support!

  • @1xXNimrodXx1
    @1xXNimrodXx125 күн бұрын

    This thing is amazing.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    19 күн бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @davelamont
    @davelamont25 күн бұрын

    I had purchased a Gen 2 Locker store and was transferring my files from my Gen 1 Locker store. It kept freezing up, returned it to Amazon and got a replacement. The replacement was even worse. Done with Asustore, spent the $$$ on a Qnap TVS 874 I5. Thanks Robbie, you are killing my retirement fund. LOL.

  • @hhuey5
    @hhuey515 күн бұрын

    Synology hdd compatibility list only their drives they stopped putting TP drives on the list in fact they removed them

  • @geraldh.8047
    @geraldh.804725 күн бұрын

    Interesting choice to use a CPU without any integrated graphics. I would be very interested in this NAS if there will be a good way to install TrueNAS Scale… finally a modern Ryzen embedded cpu, all other NAS device use ancient Zen1 embedded AMD CPUs.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    We can provide a guide on installing it, but after that, you are on your own.

  • @geraldh.8047

    @geraldh.8047

    25 күн бұрын

    @@ASUSTOR_YT ❤️❤️❤️

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
    @BoraHorzaGobuchul25 күн бұрын

    I tried, but no matter how many times I rewinded, I still hear "Intel Sauron processor" :)

  • @slow_Jo
    @slow_Jo25 күн бұрын

    at least they're not like synology or qnap and give you gbe ports 😂...i guess if you want to transcode, just buy a cheap intel n100 mini pc.

  • @EViL3666
    @EViL366612 күн бұрын

    5GbE is a bizarre choice... as far as I'm aware, there is no switch that natively supports this.. But ASUSTOR are going to take QNAPs best-value hardware crown.. Only thing missing is a PCIe.

  • @SnapshotJH

    @SnapshotJH

    2 күн бұрын

    I have a now-discontinued Netgear switch that has one SFP+, one 10GbE, two 5GbE, two 2.5GbE and four 1GbE ports. But I have to agree that it's a strange choice alongside 10GbE. The socket for the M.2 card on the Gen2 is standard PCIe but the back panel is far from it. Who knows what the Gen3 will be like.

  • @peteradshead2383
    @peteradshead238325 күн бұрын

    unless they are using ZFS, what is the point of ECC memory ? , not too bothered about having a transcoding if you are using it at as a pure NAS.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    25 күн бұрын

    It's not like ecc is good only for zfs, or is it?

  • @laserbait

    @laserbait

    25 күн бұрын

    ECC is has far more reaching benefits for overall system stability. ZFS is only a small factor.

  • @stanislavtrifan96
    @stanislavtrifan9625 күн бұрын

    Is synology doomed this year?

  • @GroundDwellerStudioS

    @GroundDwellerStudioS

    25 күн бұрын

    Depends on how good Qnap, Asustor, Terramaster, and now UGreen make their software. As I understand it (never having used Synology) software is the only thing going for them.

  • @annebokma4637

    @annebokma4637

    25 күн бұрын

    How many 10g ports and ssd options do they offer?

  • @stanislavtrifan96

    @stanislavtrifan96

    25 күн бұрын

    @@annebokma4637 just incomparable in regards to what is presented in that video ( like 1g ethernet by default, with limited ssd options and other stuff, includinglocked hardware). The only pro side of synology is software, but wont matter soon if they stay the same.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    25 күн бұрын

    ​​@@stanislavtrifan96and we're talking nas software only. Their client apps leave a lot to be desired, some are even not up to date...

  • @sliceofmymind
    @sliceofmymind25 күн бұрын

    The prices for these will have to be highly competitive without an iGPU. Although, I wouldn't mind a device dedicated to just storage throughput and which allows other OS installs, but the price has to be competitive. In the meantime, I'll be waiting on both UGreen NAS's I've ordered. Time to retire both of my Synology NAS's.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    I am pushing hard for eGPU support!

  • @slm5292
    @slm529225 күн бұрын

    If I had no idea what he was talking about, I would have no idea what he is talking about.

  • @TimHunold
    @TimHunold25 күн бұрын

    Client bottleneck is still real. Gotta add 2 10gbe thunderbolt 4 and 2 5gbe adapters?

  • @zMeul
    @zMeul25 күн бұрын

    5gbe is not that standardized, not all 10gbe devices will down to 5gbe or even 2.5gbe it should've been equipped with 10gbe or SFP+ and allow the end-user to buy his own module

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    It does have 10GbE. Two of them.

  • @user-th1fs3if6i

    @user-th1fs3if6i

    18 күн бұрын

    5GbE is part of the NBASE-T standard. It's an electrical standard only. For optical you would go straight to 10Gb. I have MikroTik switches that support 10/5/2.5/1/100M/10M on some ports.

  • @zMeul

    @zMeul

    18 күн бұрын

    @@user-th1fs3if6i here's the issue: 10gbe is part of a very old standard, 802.3an, while 2.5&5gbe is part of a newer standard, 802.3bz There are 10gbe switches and 10gbe SFP+ modules that will not do 2.5 and 5, only 1 and 10 because they're part of the older standard Not everything in use is newer gen, I personally encountered this issue

  • @VividMac101
    @VividMac10124 күн бұрын

    Synology needs to get a clue and start releasing better hardware.

  • @SrSilverstars
    @SrSilverstars25 күн бұрын

    Why oh why would you go Asustor AMD while having Synology in the same segment. I find this hubris extremely worrying thinking they can sway over Synology users. They will not... Why would they not use this chance to steal the media segment away from Synology and Qnap by going with a mid tier Intel cpu? They were better positioned than UGreen, but it seems they will somehow lose it.

  • @phillee2814

    @phillee2814

    12 күн бұрын

    Why oh why? Probably because you want to use TrueNAS Scale or UNRaid without voiding your warranty. It's all about lanes, and to get this many lanes on Intel you have to go much further up the range in both price and power.

  • @blahorgaslisk7763
    @blahorgaslisk776325 күн бұрын

    It may look like ASUS is pretty new to this market but that's not really true. Thing is ASUS has made server products for a pretty long time and have a lot of experience with those kinds of products. These Asustore designs are basically designed using their professional server knowledge only simplified to save on costs. I say simplified as they don't have a lot of expansion slots and redundant hot swappable PSU's and fans. So what they are really "new" at is the UI and software stack. This is however something they can throw people at and get a huge improvement over a short time. As for support they do have a wide network covering just about the whole world. The quality of servis is however something I can't say I have any real opinion about. I used to use a lot of ASUS products but for the last decade or so I've worked with Tyan and Supermicro for all motherboards and Supermicro and Taiwanese manufacturers of server chassis hardware and storage servers, but nothing touched by ASUS.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    We're actually not ASUS, we're ASUSTOR. We're a separate company spun off, but run entirely independently.

  • @laserbait

    @laserbait

    25 күн бұрын

    @@ASUSTOR_YT That's really good to hear, especially with the recent reporting on Asus's product warranty shenanigans.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    @@laserbait Absolutely. I push our management to be more right to repair friendly. We stopped putting warranty stickers on our NAS many many years ago. We create guides on how to open and replace components in your NAS. We allow (but not offer technical support) for third party OSs.

  • @laserbait

    @laserbait

    25 күн бұрын

    @@ASUSTOR_YT And that's why ASUSTOR will be my next NAS purchace. Need that 10 Bay Gen 3 when it comes out, and it'll displace 2 or 3 ReadyNAS devices.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    24 күн бұрын

    @@laserbait Thank you for your incredible support!

  • @majicdude88
    @majicdude8825 күн бұрын

    All DDR5 is ECC Memory. DDR5 has on-die ECC that’s built into the RAM itself. A company selling a product with the feature of ECC on a DDR5 product is misleading, as they all support ECC natively. RAM sold as DDR5 ECC is just normal DDR5.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    25 күн бұрын

    No. All ddr5 has some ecc capability. But ddr5 ecc has full ecc capability, to put it in simple terms

  • @laserbait

    @laserbait

    25 күн бұрын

    Not quite. Unbuffered DDR5 can only _detect_ memory errors. Full DDR5 ECC can _correct_ those errors on the fly.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    No. We are using official ECC DDR5. With parity chips.

  • @NatesRandomVideo
    @NatesRandomVideo25 күн бұрын

    The GN video on how badly Asus treats anyone with a warranty issue has killed all interest in anything Ausustore. Won’t buy from a company like that.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    25 күн бұрын

    Yeah, that's a concern.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    Hi there! We are not ASUS. We are ASUSTOR. We are a completely separate company spun off many years ago and independently run. Our warranties for our NASes are independent and run only by us and I have specifically pushed us in the direction of pro right to repair friendliness. I always fight hard for the customer. Robbie can testify that one. We also have a positive relationship with Gamers Nexus.

  • @NatesRandomVideo

    @NatesRandomVideo

    24 күн бұрын

    @@ASUSTOR_YT great to hear!!

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    24 күн бұрын

    @@NatesRandomVideo I can't influence anything at ASUS and they can't influence us. All I can do is promise that I will fight for you and help hold us accountable, and that our actions at ASUSTOR are our own. I can say with confidence we have never denied a warranty because of a microscopic imperfection on the chassis. We got rid of warranty stickers years ago and have changed many practises within the company. We allow, but can't offer tech support for third party OSs for true freedom and we publish guides on this channel on how to disassemble your NAS and replace components. Over the years we have changed our culture because I myself am a hardware enthusiast and self-taught repair technician. First computer I ever tore apart was my Pentium 166 I got in 1998 for my birthday. I love right to repair! And we have educated ourselves on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act to steer our ship to the right waters. Unfortunately, Company Does Right Thing Of it's Own Will is not an easy thing to go viral with. But I still push for the right thing. It is unfortunate that ASUS not done the right thing as of late, but I assure you that I have done and will continue to use my position to push for consumer friendly policies and behaviour.

  • @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    @BoraHorzaGobuchul

    24 күн бұрын

    @@ASUSTOR_YT good too know! Though the only way to be sure is too see the {compete} ownership structure of the companies in question which (a) noone is likely to show you and (b) too much work to do just for the lulz :)

  • @klauskohlfuerst
    @klauskohlfuerst25 күн бұрын

    no hardware transcoding - no buy

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    We're also working on transcoding support.

  • @LisaSamaritan

    @LisaSamaritan

    25 күн бұрын

    Who needs transcoding these days? Every phone/tablet (since many years back) have hardware support for video and audio codecs and 100+ Mbit Internet speed... Computers have been able to handle it, for even longer times. I pay $30 a month without any limits to how much Internet I can use on my phone and 100Mbit fiber connection is baked in to the rent of my home. And it also doesn't have any limits.

  • @klauskohlfuerst

    @klauskohlfuerst

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@ASUSTOR_YT Hardware transcoding? Software transcoding is crap!? Only 4 simultaneously 4k-transcodings " kills" a CPU without internal graphics, isn't it?!

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    @@klauskohlfuerst Not only do we have numerous NAS devices in our lineup with Intel hardware transcoding if you don't need the powerhouse features of the Lockerstor Gen3, we have USB4 on this NAS that allows you to install a GPU for hardware transcoding. I'm pushing hard for this feature to be implemented.

  • @iainbradbury1463

    @iainbradbury1463

    25 күн бұрын

    @@klauskohlfuerst This is why you don't use a NAS for transcoding. Also, local network transcoding is not required these days.

  • @JohnPob
    @JohnPob25 күн бұрын

    Why no intel options again? I don’t want AMD CPU’s.

  • @reabstraction

    @reabstraction

    25 күн бұрын

    Why don't you want AMD?

  • @LisaSamaritan

    @LisaSamaritan

    25 күн бұрын

    Probably the same reason as with the previous review. Then it was about having enough PCIe lanes. The LAN is built in and because of that, they don't need to waste lanes for that. If they want something similar with ECC on Intel, they have to use a more expensive CPU.

  • @ASUSTOR_YT

    @ASUSTOR_YT

    25 күн бұрын

    It's not like we're stopping sales on Intel-based NAS devices. But we also try to listen to all of our customers. Intel just doesn't have the same features AMD has in this generation. If we use a similar-classed embedded CPU from Intel, we lose: PCI Express 4.0 - Intel only supports PCIe 3.0. 11 PCI Express lanes - Intel's Nx00 series only have 9 lanes compared to Ryzen's 20. ECC RAM - Intel doesn't support ECC RAM outside of their Xeon lineup. The ability to add more than 16 GB of RAM - Intel's Nx00 series only support a maximum of 16 GB of RAM. USB4 - Intel's N series do not support USB4 with thunderbolt features. 10GbE - Intel's CPUs do not come with 10GbE built in. We'd have to waste precious PCIe lanes implementing that. For these powerhouses, especially as many customers want a good NAS for content creation that allows customers to directly wire up their NAS to their PC with USB4, it's a no brainer, AMD just has the value this time and we're certain you will like this too.

  • @leito1996

    @leito1996

    25 күн бұрын

    Very happy to see AMD here @ASUSTOR_YT

  • @makatron

    @makatron

    25 күн бұрын

    ​@@ASUSTOR_YT well that's a great response

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