Astro Editing Techniques You're Probably Not Using
In this tutorial video, I will show you three workflows you can use to edit your Milky Way photos to bring out their full beauty! Whether you're a beginner or a fully sleep-deprived astrophotographer (advanced), you'll learn techniques that will take your astrophotography to the next level. We'll cover everything from basic adjustments for single exposures to advanced processing techniques borrowed from real astrophotography that aren't often used for Milky Way processing. By the end of this video, you'll have the skills and knowledge to create beautiful Milky Way photos!
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0:00 Intro
0:14 Stage 1 - Lightroom Only Workflow
2:41 Stage 2 - Photoshop Stacking Workflow
8:50 Stage 3 - Full Astrophotographer Approach
13:23 Recap - Which Workflow is Best for You?
16:28 Outro
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A find a balance between image 1 and 2 is a much more tasteful edit than the crunchy over sat edit of image 2 by itself.
Super helpful! I've been shooting Milky Way images for four years now, processing with Sequator and Lightroom and Photoshop. This really inspires me to take the next step. I think I need to watch it four or five more times, taking notes.... 🙂
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much :) Feel free to shoot me a message on IG if you ever want clarification!
I watched a ton of astrophotography tutorials and this is by far the best one. I had never heard of some of the tools discussed here. It would be awesome if you could make a more detailed video on the full astrophotographer approach.
@mike_abramyan
2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I will definitely add that to my list.
Thanks so much for watching my video! In some of the more advanced parts I will admit I had to skim over entire processes for the sake of time - if there are any parts you'd be interested in learning more about, please let me know here! I hope you learned something new from this video, whether you're just starting out or have been doing this for a while. Happy (Milky Way) hunting!
Excellent explanation.
Amazing content and clarity, you do great in making this look easy for anyone! Keep it up!!
Advanced version looks so much better, absolutely worth the effort!
amazing how clear and simple you make the editing seem! i often take astro images but get confused, bored and annoyed with the editing. this helped massively! thank you
@mike_abramyan
17 күн бұрын
I'm so glad!
Nice video! Quick and well explained. Tried your workflow with shots of the milky way that I took in Sahara desert. Got a lot more details out of them
@mike_abramyan
4 күн бұрын
Awesome, I'm so glad it was helpful!
Brilliant video thanks for sharing!
Thankyou MikeGreat advice and guidance
Yes my dude, glad to see you making these videos. Keep it up!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton!!
This is a pleasure to watch. Easy to learn from, well done man!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!
Nicely laid out my friend super useful!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it bro bro :)
Thank you for sharing with us ☁️
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Just tryna keep up with you!!
This is so cool!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tavifa :)
Super cool !! time to level up.
Genius understanding of technical workflow from capture to photo editing! I think for some scenes with more interesting foreground less striking astro maybe better storytelling.
I've never seen a video as good as this one! I love it! Thanks so much for sharing, it's well worth a subscription.
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
This was an awesome tutorial, I'm an experienced photographer but I picked up a few interesting tips. Thanks mate! P.s this video deserves a lot more than 9k views!
@mike_abramyan
2 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton!🙌🙌
Amazing tutorial! Keep up the good work
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton Kyiat!!
Thank you so much for sharing your acknowledges! This tutorial video really helps me get to next level of amatuer beginner astrophotographer! Thanks again 😊⭐
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Very informative. Would love a shooting tutorial of the Milkway and of your day to night time-lapses!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Urmil, I'm working on the day to night timelapse tutorial as I type this!
Nicely done!!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks pal!!
Truly amazing and beautiful result using the longer workflow.
@mike_abramyan
7 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
Great video for an useful tutorial! Would love to get more details on your pixinsight workflow for astro landscape.
It was very easy to understand and helpful!
@mike_abramyan
7 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Never thougth about using Pixinsight for my widefield astro images. Thanks alot.
I have been doing amateur astrophotography for 2 years. When I started, I would definitely like image number 3 the most. Today, when I understand how the night sky is photographed and what its post-production involves, image number 3 seems terrible to me. I'm in favor of simpler adjustments that come closer to what our eyes see, it's a shame that we can't see colors as well at night as during the day. So for me, picture n.1 and n.2. Otherwise, the video is great, it shows the differences in editing very well and I would like it to be seen by as many beginner astrophotographers as possible.
@mike_abramyan
16 күн бұрын
To each their own! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Fabulous content Mike - thank you for sharing. One very small nit, whilst the music is relaxing, I would rather hear you
I just found your channel, great post!
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
Excellent!
@mike_abramyan
24 күн бұрын
Thanks, Gus!
damn... that composite was awesome.
This just helped me a ton! I don't have all the same tools, but these tricks are possible in photoshop as well, even if it's a bit more work, so I'll be using them for sure.
@mike_abramyan
13 күн бұрын
Glad it helped!!
Well done Mike
@mike_abramyan
12 күн бұрын
Thank you!
I’m just learning Milky Way photography. I have yet to capture an image, but when I do I will definitely becoming back to this tutorial to follow your steps in editing with LR and PS. Thanks so much!
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
THANKYOU...Advance
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the discussion. I came over from reddit where you had that amazing picture!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! 🙌🙌
Thanks for the video - it's really helpful. I have been doing astro for some time, but haven't taken the time to dive into other workflows like this one. Ironically, I really prefer the "intermediate" edit, as I think there's a lot of a over processing in widefield astrophotography personally. Definitely a subjective thing though.
@mike_abramyan
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree! And honestly it's just great to have all these tools at your disposal to make those decisions and create art that you love. My workflow is always evolving (as are my preferences) and I'm sure I'll have a ton of new techniques to share by the end of milky way core season!
Great video Mike was able to follow all but one thing, when you moved the foreground Layer from lightroom how do you copy it to your main composition?
@mike_abramyan
7 ай бұрын
Thank you! I just selected the layer in the layers tab in PS and hit control+c to copy it. If you're having trouble with that you can also right click the layer and select "Duplicate". A dialog box will open asking where you'd like the duplicated layer to open and you can select the name of your other tab in PS where you're working on your sky layer.
Oh my god !!! This is a reallyyyyy high quality content video ! I am an amateur, and your video quality is just so good, i was thinking to may be start a youtube acc on sharing my shallow astrophotography knowledge and i found your video, hahahahah it since like i have no more purpose to do it 😂
@mike_abramyan
7 күн бұрын
You're too kind, you should start one too! There's no downside to having more information out there :)
Dude this is really well put together. Nice and straight to the point, no fluff. Love it! Just a question, what's the reasoning behind stacking exposure? Why do you do this? Is it just foreground vs background, or do you also produce multiple layers for the sky itself, and why? Sorry, really curious to know 😁
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I stack multiple exposures of the sky because there is a type of noise in each shot that is random every time so if you stack a bunch of photos of the exact same thing the noise can be averaged out and the result is a cleaner looking image!
Just what I needed, thanks very much. Last year, my Milky Way images took a big step up through the use of stacking (Sequator) and Starnet V2 to separate stars and nebulae for separate editing. But I'd like to take it a step further through the use of Pixinsight. You have demonstrated here what I suspected, but wasn't sure of: that it can make a big difference, and without undue trouble. I much appreciate the quick and digestible demo in this video. Now, would you consider a more detailed workflow, also using a Milky Way core image? But you have given me enough to start with here. I'm going to give it a try!
@mike_abramyan
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and I'm glad it was helpful! Indeed, stacking is a huge upgrade in image quality. Tracking and stacking is the ultimate! Actually... Shooting longer focal lengths like 50-85mm and doing a tracked stacked panorama is the actual ultimate way!😅 My workflow has evolved so much since this video, I definitely could do a deeper dive. I'll keep it in mind!
I’ve been diving passionately into amateur photography for two years and although i’ve probably spent hundreds of hours editing my photos (mostly with DxO Photolab) I still feel like a complete newbie when I watch this kind of video... No matter how good your process is, I feel this kind of tutorial is kind of lost on me since I don’t think it’s really usefull to just apply a "recipe" without understanding in depth what every modification you apply to your image does exactly...
@mike_abramyan
4 күн бұрын
Sure, this video is meant to show some of the tools available and give a layout of my workflow on different levels. A 1-on-1 conversation and workshop would be the only way to truly explain everything in detail as it applies to your own images in particular. In fact, I'm doing a workshop just like this with an astrophotographer I look up to tomorrow! I can't wait to learn from him.
Fabulous presentation, Mike. Really a huge help to see the difference between the three processes. I do Milky way photography and want to start using Pixinsight to take it to the next level. I wasn't familiar with Astro Pixel Processor. This is the first I've seen Pixinsight used for the MW; most seem to only use it for deep space image processing. So it's obvious this can do much more than PS and LR. I'm not clear on the use of Astro Pixel Processor. Do you just use it to stack the photos? Is it worth the extra cost over Starry Landscape Stacker? Add me to the list of folks who would like to see a video from you on shooting the MW and your day to night time lapses.
@mike_abramyan
5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! APP is not necessary, you can use starry landscape stacker or learn how to do preprocessing (stacking and calibration) in pixinsight. The only thing APP does better is panoramas/mosaics.
Hi Mike, thanks for making this video, really interesting to see how you're making use of the different applications. I was wondering, would you be able to do the same stacking process in Pixinsight as well, instead of using Astro Pixel Processor for that? Is there a benefit of using Astro Pixel Processor for this step? I am using trial versions of both applications at the moment and am wondering if only Pixinsight for my astro-scape edits provides all the functionality already. Thanks for your insight!
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Hey there, yes absolutely you can use Pixinsight instead! I wouldn't say there's really any benefit to using APP for that step - it has always just felt more intuitive to me. I really should get better at Pixinsight though!
@never_arrive
Жыл бұрын
@@mike_abramyan Thanks a ton for the feedback! I feel you on APP being more intuitive haha. Really wish PI was a bit more accessible
I would like to see how far we can push the Photoshop method while obtaining the Astro software result ?
You can do this with LightRoom HDR.
Hey, great video! Why don't you stack in PixInsight?
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Honestly just found APP so easy to use I never tried it. I really should though!
Hey nice edit ! I tried to stack in median mode, but most of the stars were erased following the stacking, what should I do?
@mike_abramyan
20 сағат бұрын
Did you make sure the layers were all aligned before stacking? Also you can use a program like sequator to do the stacking for you. It's free. Just make sure to export your layers as 16 bit TIFF from Lightroom
Hello! Question, is it still possible to stack milky way photos without using a star tracker? If so, How do you recommend we do it without trackers? Thanks!
@mike_abramyan
24 күн бұрын
Yes, it's possible without a tracker. Just follow the process in the video, it should work the same way! It's even more useful to do when not tracking so definitely give it a try.
why not merge the star and milky way layers in PI using PixelMath rather than Photoshop? Why not use deconvolution in PI to reduce star size? Just curious. Lovely tutorial.
@mike_abramyan
Күн бұрын
I've done that before too, but if you wanted to do star reduction or anything further on the separate star and sky layers then this is much better! Sometimes I even add extra exposure to my star layer once I see how it looks over the starless and feel like the stars need to be brighter. I've tried deconvolution in PI before but don't really have a reason why I don't use it aside from the fact that I have a PS action that does it in one click for me now and it works well! Maybe the PI tool would yield better results though.
@davepastern
Күн бұрын
@@mike_abramyan there are methods to star shrink in PI that work very well, imho better than in Photoshop, although I will admit that the Photoshop technique is pretty good, easier to wrap your head around and you don't have to purchase an expensive piece of software that's rather specialist.
Hi mate. Great video. Thanks for posting. QQ. When I am in photoshop and I select my images to stack in both mean and median mode I only get a small portion of the image clear the rest is blurry with no detail at all. Any ideas? The images are already aligned via the previous action. I am trying to stack 6 x 2 minute exposures. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer here.
@mike_abramyan
7 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for the late reply. That is quite odd... Sounds like PS is bugging out or something? Have you tried updating your software to the latest version?
@LandscapesDronescapes
7 ай бұрын
@@mike_abramyan thanks mate. Big release since I posted my reply so will try again.
I almost always use a single 5-10 minute exposure & photoshop to selectively add contrast. A few luminosity masks and brushed in contrast goes a long way. The LR & photoshop examples are flat, but the images just look incomplete, they could have both been taken much further.
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - there's always more that can be done but I find that the further you push non-linear images with low integration time, the more artifacts you will see as a result of pushing the data "too far". This is all personal preference.
How did you mask the foreground before your PI stretch?
@mike_abramyan
2 ай бұрын
I use a separate shot for the foreground so I don't bother masking it in PI.
Where would a program like stary landscape stacker fit in to all of this ?
@mike_abramyan
8 ай бұрын
It would take the place of Astro Pixel Processor.
Are you stacking 15,20,25 second exposures together?
@mike_abramyan
24 күн бұрын
Yep.
Great content Mike. Thank you. Just an observation... I do find the music rather annoying, or perhaps too loud compared with your voice.
but i like the beginners version better it preserve more detail and not over done lol
Advanced.
I don't know if the milky way is real or not. And I'm not sure. But how will i ever be able to see it if it now exists?
@mike_abramyan
Жыл бұрын
Head out to dark skies and have a look for yourself! You can use lightpollutionmap.info to find a dark sky site (bortle 3 or lower is recommended for naked eye Milky Way viewing). Go on a moonless night!
@valdemarjrgensen8128
Жыл бұрын
As a European city dweller I thought the photos were all fake until I visited Australia and saw it from myself. Turns out it's there and easy to see when there isn't too much light pollution.
I love the part where he skipped over the most important part
@mike_abramyan
2 ай бұрын
😂😂
Yeah I'll just pay someone to edit the photos 😂
@mike_abramyan
Күн бұрын
you can pay me any time 😂😂
@Zswag22
Күн бұрын
@@mike_abramyan bet lol
Personally I don’t like the overdone one. Looks impressive for a second but then it wears off. The first one is more “accurate”
@mike_abramyan
4 күн бұрын
To each their own. Even now, in hindsight, I feel that the last one is overcooked as well and don't really go as far with my edits anymore.
Yes the background music has to go. I have to watch with the sound off.
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Oh no! Good feedback for the future. My newer video I was much more careful about it, let me know what you think :)
It's a great video, except for the annoying background music.
@mike_abramyan
5 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind for future videos 👍
It's a great video, but get rid of that annoying background music.
@mike_abramyan
5 ай бұрын
Will do that next time, thanks for the feedback 👍
@Larnuse
19 күн бұрын
I think music is fine, just bring level down.
@Ethefake
16 күн бұрын
i really dont mind the music that much. ill be honest, i didnt even notice the music until i read this comment. using headphones, may be different on speakers. good video btw, thank you for this
real astrophotogrophers dont use Photoshop for stacking
@v_6302
8 күн бұрын
You do it by hand? Omg with an exposure time of 10 minutes with 1 image per 10 seconds that would be 60 images, i think software is better and makes less mistakes then a human. Or did i misunderstand you?
I lose interest at the mention of Photoshop. The most counter intuitive software ever produced. If Lightroom doesn't do it l would prefer to travel to a darker sky.
@mike_abramyan
Ай бұрын
Luckily you can use Lightroom alone for quite a bit these days!
@brentthibault3467
11 күн бұрын
What do you use for a star tracker?
@user-nc7nd4mt8b
11 күн бұрын
@@brentthibault3467 I don't use a tracker. I can't get my head around anything technical, even a cell phone. I've been using computers since 1980 and hate them with a passion. I rate Adobe software as the worst for ease of use. Even cameras today are too complicated. So, if l can't capture it with a click of the shutter button at a 30th of a second, so be it.