Assembly & Flight Review -- E-Flite F-16 Thunderbirds 70mm EDF (Horizon Hobby)
Hey guys, here's my E-Flite F-16 Thunderbirds review. I having been having so much fun with this airplane, I absolutely love how it flies! Great power, good speed, and a whole lot of slow flight/high alpha that'll make you giggle like a school girl. ;) The airplane really has some nice features as well. Full article with link to my Spektrum aircraft file is at: wp.me/p5LuFX-1zX
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Just built mine, thanks for such a great video (as usual). No bs, just perfect info and footage. Love and need to get that led afterburner light. It really sets it off!
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! If you do decide to order a burner, my 28mm inrunner design is what fits this model. Thercgeek.com/centerburner
I've been watching your videos for years, and I really do enjoy your videos 😀. I actually just ordered this jet thanks to your video! My favorite is still the corsair you built, painted, and flew on here!!! That grey scheme is soooooo awesome!!! I wish I had your painting skills 👍
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate you following along. 😊
Just completed my 50th flight with my the e-Flite Viper, and moved into this EDF, having now 14 flights with it, as of 9 May, 2020. This my favorite by far at the moment, using what the Viper taught me, and advancing like I had hoped to. I love this jet, getting 5 minute, 30 second flights with an HRB 4000 mah 60C 6S battery. The transition has been great fun, and learned how to set up flaperons as well. I already bought a second one. Thanks Chris, have your AB light in it also, and to be honest, I am getting tired of explaining how to buy one of your lights to EVERY Club member! KIDDING, people love it, as do I. Thanks for another great, honest review of a really fun, great looking model. Having fun trying to figure out the science of high alpha flight, which I am practicing 3 mistakes high at the moment!
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind feedback! I’m so glad you’re enjoying the f16, it is such a fun jet. I still love flying mine.
@vintageracer3734
4 жыл бұрын
I just flew this F-16 on the 8S set up, as in the Horizon video, I had to pull the power off in vertical before I lost sight of it, although I could still see your AB Light! It is great! And I truly believe its easier to land than the Viper!
Yeah that jet is awsome and the sound is unmatched anything you want to do I love that and I want the eflite fighting falcon
Awesome video brother! Love my E-Flite F-16. Also love my Freewing 70mm F-16. What a wonderful time to be a modeler so many choices of great flying models. I agree that the F-16 would make a great first Jet as long as they have some experience. This one really blew me away with the performance. Keep up the great work!!
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! Yup, so many choices these days, it's awesome! These newer airplanes also are powered so much more appropriately too vs a few years ago. I just wish there were more builders kit options. ;) Call me old fashioned I guess. :p
Thanks for all your info. I flew my F-16 on buddy box with my club's jet expert. It was a blast! She fly's on rails. Need to get that alpha landing down. She used the entire runway to stop. A couple more flights I'll be flying her myself.
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, so glad to hear of the success! 😊
@gavstreet8976
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man that f16 is awesome his vid helped me out a lot also once you get the high alpha down you’ll be able to stop it in less than like 30 feet
@gavstreet8976
4 жыл бұрын
But If you have a good sized runway you don’t have to but it’ll slow down land in less than 30 feet
Great video Chris, thanks for all the info on this jet, it really looks like a great one to get 👊🏼👊🏼
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's such a fun airplane!
Now I definitely want one
Dear Chris, very good, you explained everything I need, as always. Thanks and cheers.
Great video, liked you low pass the best! On my freewing F-16 I always kept hitting the wooden fins on landing because the angle was just so high on Landing.
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sounds about right. :)
Great video. Learned a good bit. Along with this plane, I'm looking at the FW F35 and the Havoc. Can't wait till I get high alpha to a crawl.
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching! Both the F35 and Havoc do look fun. I'm especially interested to see the Havoc in person. If it flies anything like the big turbine bird, it'll be a killer sport jet!
@JoshWeaverRC
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Just got the F35. Sooo looking forward to flying it. Why I'm back though is I messaged an F16 pilot and he said the F18 is much better for high alpha, so have you found the F18 model to be good or better for high alpha than the F16. Maybe I'm nuts for caring about high alpha so much.
@charlesrestivo870
4 жыл бұрын
FW mig 21 another king of high alpha
Nice job Chris! I love mine as well. I need to practice that high alpha.
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Just hold that elevator and steer with rudder. :)
Nice video Chris,really like the looks and way this F-16 flies! That battery isn't too bad of a price either,and think I'll try RoaringTops for my A-4,but a bit larger capacity.Thanks!!
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The RT's are good packs!
@jettechdonatkins
5 жыл бұрын
I am glad I watched your vid on batts.The c rating thing I was unsure about and thought I needed a 50c or maybe higher one for my A-4 but it looks like somewhere around 30-40c should work fine,right?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Yup, 30-40c should be just fine. I use 35c packs in everything.
Nice work Chris! Looks like a keeper!
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah, for sure a keeper!
Thunderbirds are big and cool
Would this be a good 1st jet? The closest thing I have to one of these is an E Flite F-27 EVO.
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
This is a good brute force kind of jet. I think that the ViperJet might be a little better as a first jet. It flies a little more traditionally so landings I think are a little easier (though the F-16 will land slower if you do it right). Here's my review of the ViperJet kzread.info/dash/bejne/pIuf2LdqdrXTaNo.html
I just ordered one and afterburner light can’t wait
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you! 😊
Interesting to hear you say "either are great 1st jets". I was looking at this or the Freewing F-16 for a 1st jet and was starting to reconsider until I heard you say that!
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they’re both good. This provides a different flying experience to the viper, so depending on what you’re wanting to do. This one flies like the fighter it is. 😊
@richardk302
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Cool! Arctic Camo F-16 it is! Thanx 4 your response. The 28mm CenterBurner should fit nicely right?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
If it’s an inrunner motor, yes. You’ll need to check that though as the freewing appears to come with an outrunner.
@richardk302
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Okay cool, thanks: "2957-2210kV Brushless In-Runner Motor"
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
@@richardk302 Perfect! The 28mm inrunner would be it then. :)
Hey rc geek I showed the comment we talk about to the gf she loved it. Love the f16 build. I'm fixing to also repaint one and looking for trainers for her
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet! My recommendation would be the aeroscout. It is a great trainer!
Sup Chris. Had a interesting one the other day. Took out the new Eflite F16 to maiden her. Took this Tbird too because I just love flying this plane. Seconds after takeoff with the Tbird...the throttle went full max (I dont take off full throttle...don't need to with tbird) and stuck there! Full throttle! Throttle cut didn't work. Trimming throttle down made no difference. Ended up flying a racetrack patten....really fast😋... until the battery died! Made a pretty sweet dead stick landing. I have probably 250+ flights on the Tbird so... I know it well. She's so light and that glide rate...maybe 3° nose down and she'll go forever. Anyway...ever see anything like that? I fired it back up when I got home and no issues. Receiver cables are seated. ESC motor connections look good. No cable melting found anywhere. I've just never seen or ever heard of something like this in an EDF. My guess is the ESC but... spektrum AR636a and DX8 Gen 2...anything is possible lol. You ever see this? Suspect you have a ton more hours than me! Thanks man!
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I’ve never seen that before! You had full control otherwise? Seems like maybe an esc issue potentially, but hard to know for sure. That’s really odd.
@Sabotage_Labs
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Full control! Yea... hard one to troubleshoot. A different plane like the AL37 jetliner and it may not have had a happy ending....phew!
Really great looking in the air. This looks like a good performer too. Thanks for sharing. How many channels do you need on the transmitter?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
This one needs a minimum of 5 channels. There's no flaps, so just the basic 4 functions plus retracts. Thanks for watching! :)
I dont know whats up with my new f16 tbirds. Firstt flight and its slow, no power at all. I dont use spektrum only graupner. You cannot calibrate the throttle range on this plane esc combo. Throttle doesnt kick in until im at 20 percent throttle. Ive haad numerous eflite jets and they all performed well with graupner. The other 2 eflite panes I got throttle kicks in at 7 percent. IVe tried everything, you cannot do anything with rhis esc. Any suggestions other than toss it in garbage and get a good esc.
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a potential esc issue. Have you contacted horizon support? Which esc is it? One of the newer avian esc’s?
Cool dog and cool me 26 building in the background
Sweet plane and i did not know it came with retracts. I have had the Freewing Me-262 and it was a blast and could go vertical with out problems.
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Most of these models are standard with retracts these day which is great. I have a v2 me262 and it’s awesome! Flies so sweet. I have a review coming for that here soon.
Hey Chris, I love this F-16, but I'm curious as to whether you like the 70mm over the 80mm? If the 70mm's anything like the model in Realflight 9.5, then I'm in love!
@Thercgeek
Жыл бұрын
The 70mm is extremely fun I will say. It flies lighter than the 80mm which also makes it more forgiving. But from a scale standpoint, the 80mm is my preference. 😊
I used to own a Byron F16 back in the day....
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Nice! Those were the days.
@HeliZero
5 жыл бұрын
Ive seen Nightflyr and his video from back in the days flying for movie makers. Cool plane with a piston engine inside.
@andyaim4764
5 жыл бұрын
It was unusual that it had a nitro ducted fan....
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Nitro was all there was for a long time. My dad was one of the pioneers in RC jets and so I grew up seeing and flying glow dfs. I miss those days.
@andyaim4764
5 жыл бұрын
Good times indeed!! That shrill revving of nitro and smell... Reminds me of...Victory 😂 I had a nitro F15 ducted fan too, that was one handful to fly!!
where did you get the tool to measure the throws?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
It was made by great planes but unfortunately isn't made anymore following the Tower/Horizon merger.
Really cool jet! Out of curiousity, did you do a video on a F-14 Tomcat?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did a couple videos on the Freewing F-14: Flight Review ►kzread.info/dash/bejne/k5mhqLuygdSce7w.html Flight Video ►kzread.info/dash/bejne/noWkuK2fptWfhNo.html Assembly Review ►kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6dk2cqzmqXOorA.html
I fly this on RF 9.5. How accurate is the sim version of this plane, assuming you use RF of course.
@Thercgeek
Жыл бұрын
You know, the sim is pretty decent for this one.
does the f16 and the viper both use the same Dsx transmitter?
@Thercgeek
Жыл бұрын
The bnf versions come with receivers which I believe are the same between the two. They don’t come with transmitters.
Ok thanks I’ll watch
Great job. I still would like to know where I could get one of those after burners for a 70 mm jet.😂 Please...
@Thercgeek
Жыл бұрын
It’s a product I manufacture. It’s my 28mm inrunner MiniBurnwr design available here: thercgeek.com/centerburner 😊
Do you think this could be a first EDF jumping back into RC? I have about 2yrs experience in 100+mph props then took a break from hobby for about a year. Looking to get back into it and would like to get some insight.
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Based on your experience, I think you’d do fine with this one. It’s a super fun jet!
@rmvb4flt133
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek I purchased the EF 80mm F16 instead. Might as well! LOVE that plane. I picked up the Habu 70mm also to knock off some of the rust before I put the F16 up in the sky.
Looks like a great introduction to the EDF world. What are your thoughts on running this from a well manicured grass runway (almost as short as a putting green)?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Flying this off of that kind of grass shouldn't be an issue at all.
Ok thank you
Everyone says “high alpha” for reviews expecting to know what this means
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
The Greek letter alpha is the symbol used for aircraft angle of attack (angle of aircraft relative to the oncoming airflow). So, “high alpha” means high angle of attack which is when the aircraft is fly slow and nose high.
Yep, the missiles were the first to go on mine too
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
Awesome video. Do you have any videos on how to install the afterburner?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I do have a video showing the installation along with additional info at thercgeek.com/the-centerburner it shows installing with the outrunner design. This one is an inrunner and install is the same, except that the tailcone clamps onto the motor itself with some grub screws that you supply. I’m hear to help if you have any questions at all.
Q: NX6 radio sufficient to be able use retracts and safe ?
@Thercgeek
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, shouldn’t be a problem. The model only uses 5 functions which means the 6th channel can be assigned to safe.
Does it come with the controller and does it come with a battery
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
The model comes as a bind and fly that includes a receiver in it. It does not include a transmitter or flight battery.
Chris, which plane is easier to see in most sky conditions the Viper of the F-16?
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Probably the F-16 as it has a great contrast in colors from the thunderbirds scheme. The viper grays and blues can tend to disappear.
Just sick stuff!
Is there a video on where to buy or how to add the afterburner light ring?
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Burners are available through my site at thercgeek.com/centerburner. There are a number of video resources listed there and I’m always happy to answer questions as well. 😊
Does it come with reverse thrust?
@Thercgeek
12 күн бұрын
The newer ones come with the Spektrum smart receivers now it looks like, so yes, reverse thrust would be an option.
Is that Cosair Nut aka Mr Hecht, also working on the Bench?
@Thercgeek
3 ай бұрын
Good eye! That is indeed him 😊
I love your channel and have a quick question, I bought the eflite viper a week ago and I just think it’s to easy of an aircraft for me, what jet do you think I should go too next?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Well, what kind of performance/challenge are you looking for? This f16 is a really fun brute force kind of jet, but there are lots of choices out there. 😊
Hi there! I havs a question. Do i need to trim it in AS3X and also trim it is SAFE ? Ore just one. And if so witch one? Now when its on the ground de ELE is setup as in the manual. When i switch SAFE on the ELE will come up a bit (nose up)
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually not 100% certain. The airplane does need to be trimmed, yes, but whether that has to happen for each mode, I don't recall. I don't think that's the case. The one thing to keep in mind when switching safe on and off on the ground is that SAFE actually commands a certain pitch depending on the throttle. So, lower 1/3 of throttle it commands a slight descent, middle 1/3 it commands straight and level and the top 1/3 it commands a slight climb. So, that's likely why you're seeing a pitch command change flipping through the different mods. Plus, if the airplane isn't level, it will initiate a command also when in SAFE.
Hi. where did you get the control surface measuring tool. thanks
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
It's called an Accu-throw meter and was available through Tower Hobbies. Unfortunately, they're not made anymore. :(
Just bought this plane today. Which center burner is the one for this 70mm F-16?
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! My 28mm inrunner miniburner fits this F-16 (thercgeek.com/shop)
@jefflarner
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Thanks!
Do you have a video of installing the burner light?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
I have a few videos on my website at thercgeek.com/centerburner The installation into the SU-30 is the same design as goes into this F-16 (only x2 since it's a twin).
wonderful vid. Thank you!
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
I would love to get a center fire for my f16 but my question is what modifications are needed if any. Also how does the center fire attach to the motor?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
No modifications are necessary. The centerburner tailcone fits simply clamps onto the back of the EDF motor using 3 small set screws which you provide. There's not tailcone on the model, so nothing is removed, the tailcone is simply added to the back.
Awewome video! Could you kindly tell me what model that orange F-4 in the background is? Best regards from Germany
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
That’s my refinished Freewing F-4. Here’s the most recent video I have of it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/naOlkrtrm8mnhco.html it was also featured in my review of the airplane too.
@nunukula
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks brother, beautiful build!
Does it have reverse thrust ? Thanks
@Thercgeek
9 ай бұрын
With the stock esc that comes with it, reverse thrust isn’t an option. With an avian smart esc in there it would be.
Hey I have this flies good love it. My question too you is mine oscillates a little left to right. Is there way to adjust As3x settings? I have a Bluetooth adapter could not get it to work. Also what’s your gains on? I found out on forward programming a rate gain read out just couldn’t adjust it and not sure if I need more or less gain.? Just thought I would ask see if you may know
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
If the airplane is oscillating, that would usually indicate that the gain is too high. I’m really surprised that it’s doing that actually. Is it oscillating in yaw? Unfortunately with the bnf models I’m not aware of a way to modify the gains as the receivers are locked. I’ve heard possibly through a computer, but I’m not certain.
@siscoflyer4338
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks for your response appreciate that.
Thank you Chris as always for the very informative videos. I’m going to seriously consider the F-16. Also I just have to ask, I noticed you were wearing a University of Alaska Anchorage Seawolves sweatshirt. What’s the connection to UAA and Anchorage - if you could share? Stay well. Thank you. Doug K Anchorage Alaska.
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I got the Seawolves sweatshirt on a trip up there. My dad spent his high school years in anchorage and so we took a trip there a few years ago so he could revisit.
I’ve got a couple spare 20c 3200 batteries laying around. Will they work with this model?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
That C rating is pretty low, but I think they'll work ok. Just don't expect huge punch from them.
Nice Video! It is really helpful since I plan to get one of these. When I do get one, I plan to cut the missile off as well. What kind of tool did you use to cut the missile off? Was it hot wired or did you use a hobby knife?
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
We just used an xacto knife. The foam cuts extremely easily.
Am new to this hobby I can't wait to my in the air
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
nice! Good luck on the maiden! Hopefully you have someone available to help you?
I am confused you said plane can not fly hi alpha with safe. can you switch safe on and off with a switch so you can fly hi alpha but also switch to safe via a switch if you lose orientation
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
yes, SAFE can be prgrammed to a switch so it can be turned off and on. I talk more about that in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6t3rsGrYNuriLA.html
Hey man..thanks for the videos. If you could only have the viper or this f 16, which you pick and why? Appreciate your time. Chris
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! For me personally, I would choose the f16. I just love the looks and the performance of it. It flies like a brute force fighter. The viper flies wonderfully, but more like a clean pattern/sport model.
@chrisclark3150
4 жыл бұрын
Ok...thanks! I've been flying the efx racer by Hobby King lots, and feel like it's time to step up to a jet. Thanks for your time man.
What’s easier to fly as a first 70mm edf? This, the viper, or the a10 from eflite.
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
As a first edf, I always go to the viper jet as a recommendation. Its a fantastic flyer!
super nice plane. How much throttle would you guess you are using during High alpha? I haven't been brave enough yet to try it. flys great on a 3700
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Throttle is probably around 1/4 or so. It doesn't take much and if you find the airplane starting to sink on you then add throttle. IT's really fun!
Hello Chris! I am about to pull the trigger on this plane. You mentioned you do not have to go too heavy on the C rating for the battery...I am just a bit nervous using a 25C rated LiPo battery for a 70mm jet. But you explained that should be okay?
@chrislefty9354
4 жыл бұрын
And the only reason I ask is because other reviews I have watched they are using higher C rated batteries.
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 25c should be just fine. You can always run Spektrums new 50c 4000 packs if you desire (bit.ly/Sm6s4000). I've been playing with their packs quite a bit lately and they're really good. The 4000 pack is about the same size as the RT pack I was running. That being said, you don't always need a big C rating. I typically only run 35C packs in my airplanes. It gets to a point where the extra C rating is just extra weight. I put a discussion together about it a while back which is here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2yJtrFmpZfSYtI.html
How do you like those LiPo batteries I just got some not sure if is the best choice I’ve ran HRB and power hobby
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
I love the roaring top packs, they’re fantastic! I have a grip of the 35c variety. I’ve also really been liking the spektrum smart packs too as they’re good quality packs as well. I don’t have any experience with HRB or power hobby packs, so can’t really say how they compare. Generally, you get what you pay for with that stuff.
So Chris, in your opinion, which jet would be the best "beginner jet" for someone who wanted to fly jets ? Viper or F-16 ?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Both are really good options. What kind of jet experience are you looking for? The F-16 excels at different things to the Viper. It's much more forgiving at slow speed and flies like the scale jet that it is. It's not quite as fast as the Viper, but still has excellent power for all sorts of maneuvering. The viper flies more like a purpose designed sport jet, so feels more like a traditional kind of airplane.
@balsumfractus
5 жыл бұрын
The F-16 is pretty quick and gets small really quickly as well. It can get away from you if you don't stay ahead of it.
Which jet is better between this F16 and Eflite’s A10?
No flaps ? Can flaperons be set up ? Will they be useful or would they make a high alpha landing even more difficult ?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
The airplane doesn't need flaps at all. It slows down great without them. With some reprogramming, it could be done easily enough though and might be fun to try.
@lw216316
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Thank you, when I get one I'll try flaperrons.
this is Awesome !
Hey where can I buy one of those surface throw measurement things ?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they’re not made anymore. 😕. It’s called an accuthrow meter and was made by great planes.
Great video! I have just one question. Is it difficult to swap out the 70mm and replace with a 80mm inrunner 12 blade? Thanks!
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It would be a pretty major mod to get an 80mm fan in there. It could be done, but the airplane flies so well on the 70, doesn’t really need an 80.
@rondeldebbio9219
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Just to get more speed and the sound of the in runner?
@gavstreet8976
4 жыл бұрын
Ron Del Debbio honestly it would probably be best to either leave it or get a different motor for example you can take the motor out of the freewing f16 70mm since it has a higher kv motor but you will have to upgrade the esc to at least a 80 amp esc
@gavstreet8976
4 жыл бұрын
Ron Del Debbio the freewing artic camp 70mm f16
Does the afterburner light plug into battery and receiver
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
The simplest way is to use a small 2s 200-300mah lipo to power the burner lights. Super simple and easy and lasts multiple outings between charges.
I guess I would've liked to see full flying stabs and spring-loaded gear doors on this model, but I can't complain too much for the price. Quick question for you: I already have a couple of 5000 mah 6s batteries for my f4, do you think it's possible to fly this jet with those batteries? Thanks!
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
I hear you! Even so, such a hard model to beat for the price. The fun to cost ratio is excellent imo. 😊. I do think a 5000 would work as the battery area is pretty large. It may be difficult to get the cg though without adding weight to the tail.
@kamp.4466
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Gotcha, thanks for the info! It's on sale on HH.com, so I'm trying to see if I should get one 😂
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a great jet!
Great video :)
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Gracias!
Rc geek were you able to high alpha with the 4000 mah pack and did you have to add weight at the back to do that ?
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, wasn’t an issue and no weight added to the tail at all.
@EDF_FANatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek lucky, I've seen a couple other videos (Brian Philipps comes to mind ) where the 4000 made it too nose heavy even with the battery all the way back. I got a 4000 and a 3300 to be safe, I'm just waiting on the glue to assemble mine.
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Part of that is the control throw too. You can hold full up elevator on the thing and steer it with rudder all day long. It’s pretty fun.
@EDF_FANatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek sounds great can't wait to fly it. I don't have the tool to measure the throws like you did, do you reckon a normal ruler would be good enough?
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a ruler works just fine.
Hi Chris, is enough a 25C battery? Do u get a big punch?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 25c works great! Spektrum rc has a 50c 4000 now (not available at the time) which would work great too.
@javikarras
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks friend!!
Very nice video great aircraft. Very informative. Does the plane come in any other paint Scheme besides the Thunderbirds ?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This e-flite F-16 only comes in the Thunderbirds scheme.
@michaelbrinkley9323
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. The reason I ask is that an Air National Guard unit did a commemorative F-16 in the livery of the Tuskegee Airmen. I don't remember which unit. Again great video Chris looking forward to others
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with that paint scheme. This airplane would be a pretty easy refinish should you want to repaint it into that scheme.
@michaelbrinkley9323
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Chris. That is precisely what I had in mind.🙂
Make a Link with your led afterbourner
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
There's a link in the description. :)
Hi brother, did the maiden today on my F 16. I noticed my aileron and elevator was very limited. At high rates it was okay but low rate it was very very limited. Took forever to make any kind of turns. I almost think mine came incorrect factory setting for servo arms and control horn. Mine for alleron and elevator both servo arms and control hors are outer most holes. Is it suppose to be like this?? On the book shows 2nd last hole for arms and outer hole for horns. I am so confused . Should i just change low rate to maybe 85% to make it work? Hope you can help bud.
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Did you have safe on? Safe will limit the travel and the angle commands available are tied to the percent used in the radio. If you’re using safe, then I recommend 100% all around on the controls.
@deppi
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek yes safe was on but still i felt movements were very limited. This is ky 2nd EDF after the F15 eagle. That one with safe on and low rate 70% has a lot of banking. I'll probably just increase low rate to 85% .
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the limiting you were feeling was due to safe. Set your high rates to 100% and try that. It’ll make a huge difference.
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
The rates I recommend in the vid are best used with safe off.
@deppi
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek Need your help brother- so i noticed when safe switch is on my control surfaces move almost 40 to 50% less and when i turn safe off it is normal movement. Its very strange. My other f 15 eagle does not do that and both in safe and not safe control surfaces move exact same amount. I am so confused. I think thats why my turns are so wide in safe because it is not travelling to its maximum capacity . Is there an issue with the AR631 reciever you think? I am scared to even fly it again since i can clearly see control surfaces are not going to its capacity or limits. Any help would be helful man. Thank you.
Will this work withe the dx6e transmitter and whats the diffrence between bnf and pnp
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, 6 channel is no problem. The model only requires 5 channels. The BnF includes a spektrum AS3X receiver that allows the option of flying with SAFE auto stabilization. The PnP requires installation of your own receiver.
@y.a7794
4 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek oh ok thanks
Heya Chris i got this jet and i'm having trouble getting this thing to track straight on the runway. Did you have this problem at all? How did you go about fixing it?
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
What is the model doing specifically? If it’s too sensitive on the steering, I’d recommend reducing the rate and/or increasing the expo. If it’s not tracking straight, you can adjust the steering center mechanically in the nose wheel well. Or you can adjust the rudder sub trim in the radio and once it’s tracking straight, readjust the pushrod length at the rudder to center it back up. The model has a narrow gear track, so it’s important to avoid over steering it, otherwise you’ll hit the wingtips regularly.
@EDF_FANatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek The model is tracking every slightly to the right when taxiing. I'm worried that if I had to take off at full speed I may lose control by holding left rudder. Do you know if there is any way that I can adjust the trim only for the nose wheel? I tried unscrewing the golden piece at the nose wheel servo in the wheel weel to mechanically adjust it to center but couldnt get it to unscrew.
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
The steering and rudder are tied together, so adjusting the trim will change both. I’d recommend simply trimming the steering so it tracks straight and then simply adjusting the pushrod length at the rudder to recenter the rudder surface.
@EDF_FANatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks Chris I'll have to try that. Pretty intimidating doing full speed takeoffs for a first time edf pilot for me! I've still only done ground operations until I got all the teething problems sorted. I've been flying this plane a lot on realflight, hopefully the muscle memory will serve me well.
@EDF_FANatic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek thanks Chris tried this and it worked perfectly. I did rip off one of the main landing gears landing in grass on my maiden though 🙉
Do you have a video on the ME-262 in the beginning of this?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Not yet, but I will. IT's a great flying jet!
@waltonphotographyandvideo723
5 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek who makes it?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Oh sorry, it's the Freewing ME-262 from MotionRC.
You should try taking a landing gear off in hand launching this thing amazing very fast later and you can do a better high Alpha without all that weight
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Though, hand launch and I don't really mix very well, haha
@jeffarab4947
5 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek bahahaha this one has alot of power maybe I put a video up
@jeffarab4947
5 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek so today I took it out and was doing some low high alpha and got too comfy and my idiot self touch the ground hit the kinda hard but the elevator one side is ripped a bit lmao so tape hinge time lol. But anyway this f16 rules probably get another
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
haha, nice! You tied the record like I did! ;)
@jeffarab4947
5 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek hahahahahahahahahaha
Nice looking plane and great video! Can you take off and land on grass with this one?
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This has great power and should be able to handle grass. One thing to keep in mind is that the tires are small, so the smoother the grass the better off it will be. Thick bumpy grass will be pretty hard on the landing gear.
F-16 🛩🛩 ✈✈ 🛬🛬 🛫🛫 👍👍
where can I get the ceter burner and does it affect the performance?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
It’s available from my website, thercgeek.com/centerburner
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
The correct design for this model is the 28mm inrunner under the 70mm fan options. 😊
Anybody: At the 5:38 mark he is using a great little magnetic THROW Gage. Anyone know where these can be found?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
That is a Great Planes Accuthrow Deflection meter. Looks like it has been discontinued since Horizon Hobby acquired Tower Hobbies. :( Something like this should work: amzn.to/2RCBG80
Just to let people know I’ve had this airplane forever and I’ve tried high alpha with safe and it does it really good but it does require some skill
@mizz9841
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please say more about doing the high Alpha in safe mode. Thanks
@gavstreet8976
2 жыл бұрын
@@mizz9841 in safe it just helps you keeps the wings level just hold full up
@mizz9841
2 жыл бұрын
@@gavstreet8976 Thank you so much for this education. Salute
What type of flight time do you get on that battery?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
My timer is set at 4.5 minutes.
@jacklets3851
4 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek good to know! I’ll be getting my jet this Saturday and I don’t want to stall it due to not having power. Thanks
can you fit a 4500 -5000 lipo in there?
@Thercgeek
2 жыл бұрын
With some modifications, potentially but it’ll push the cg pretty far forward requiring tail weight to get the cg back where it needs to be.
@43rocket
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek what would run time be at 3.4 volt cut off for this ?
Shouldn’t an edf jet have a high c rated pack to give it that boost ? Makes me itch that it’s only flying on a 35c 😰
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
There are some misconceptions out there about that. It’s all about capacity and max current draw. If you’re running larger capacity pack on a 100 amp system, you can run lower c rated packs no problems. Otherwise, you end up carrying additional weight with little performance benefits. There’s obviously a balance. I put together a discussion about that a while back here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g2yJtrFmpZfSYtI.html
Can I glue the parts with epoxy instead of ca glue?
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend CA, but epoxy should work.
@octane2099
4 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek thank you and great video I got some 3300mah batteries for it
Hey do you still have this F-16 if you do you should do a 8s setup
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm 😉
I'm worried about the glued in pieces as it would be a pain to pack this plane up into a box if at all possible if you were moving.
@Thercgeek
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the glued parts are permanent, but the wings are removable so it can break down pretty small still if need be.
My problem with this jet is mainly cosmetics. For $300 they could have at least painted it white. The exposed foam looks like crap in my opinion. For that reason I went with the Freewing F16
When is the video of war birds and classics going up?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a chance to start going through the footage yet. My coverage will most likely start posting in another week or two.
Can anyone recommend me a beginner jet? I bought a £40 plane like a 747 but it had a missing part so it would not elevate , so it put me off getting that one again. I started looking at more expensive ones , like this model but worried I will crash it
@Thercgeek
3 жыл бұрын
The habu sts is a great first jet. It’s designed as a trainer, so is super forgiving and will get your proficiency up in the process bit.ly/EflHabuSTS
Awsom!!!
Whats the similarity between fms f16 and this one.thanks
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
The FMS and E-Flite airframes are very much the same (FMS makes the eflite airplanes). However, the E-Flite comes standard with the shock gear and has the BnF option with the AS3X receiver. AS3X really locks this airplane in!
@melvinriverarcjet6544
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek how about the motor and esc is it the same.coz ifnits the same ill go for fms.shipping cost here in dubai is expensive if buy from horizon.thanks...
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
I think that it's similar, but I can't say for sure.
@melvinriverarcjet6544
5 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks.more power to your channel
@melvinriverarcjet6544
5 жыл бұрын
@@Thercgeek what the spec?
Was this flying field in Miramar?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@felixcat9455
5 жыл бұрын
The RC Geek nice! I live close by. I always thought this field was private so never bothered trying to get in. Is it open to the public or just military/ x military?
@Thercgeek
5 жыл бұрын
It's a military only field, but they have a really open guest policy. Guests can access the field so long as there's a military sponsor out there with them. I'd recommend contacting the club as to a good time to come check out the field. miramarrcflyers.com