Which other legends of the cycling tech industry would you like us to speak to next?

@xGshikamaru

6 жыл бұрын

GCN Tech Ernesto Colnago, before it's too late ?

@battenberg1589

6 жыл бұрын

Gerard Vroomen

@ForTsz

6 жыл бұрын

LiteSpeed

@blazselih

6 жыл бұрын

Tom Ritchey

@leqin

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Boardman. Mike Burrows.

Chris King is an incredible interview. He makes things so easily understandable.

could listen to Chris all day, nice guy and very knowledgable

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the interview Hugh!

@MrHugd77

6 жыл бұрын

couldn't help but notice your excitement about interviewing him ;) possibly more than talking with a pro cyclist

I really enjoyed listening to Mr. King. You can tell his breadth and depth of knowledge is vast and he explains things in a thoughtful and easy to understand manor.

the Buzz sound is use to cover over all the creaking sound coming from your bike. "Hey, your bike is creaking?" "No, it's the buzz"

One of the best manufacturers in the whole industry. Well designed, made in the same country as the design: two great features of any organisation. Deserves every success.

@rollinrat4850

5 жыл бұрын

2 wheels or 4 Theyre a great value! Anything that can last ones lifetime of hard use is.

So there really is a Chris King. Fascinating!

What an amazing and humble man, I could listen to him talk for hours. Thank you GCN for this video.

Editing for this video was a definite bodge of the week 🤣

@worbed

6 жыл бұрын

This is my vote for comment of the week!

@jeffreynichols

5 жыл бұрын

I wish they would post the entire interview. I wanted to hear more about material experimentation.

@dudeonbike800

5 жыл бұрын

The interlude of a DTSwiss wheel build was kinda funny. Couldn't cut to a beautiful King wheel build?

Think GCN Tech just got better than regular GCN

@lukebelderes6563

6 жыл бұрын

Been that way for a while imo

@th_js

6 жыл бұрын

It has been like that since GCN Tech was launched!

Thanks, Jon, for this chat with Chris and it just continues to astound me that so many of our cycling luminaries got their start or cut their teeth in Northern California back in the day. I really enjoy the stories of the early years and I appreciate what all those crafty people did to advance the technology of our bikes. And a big nod of thanks to those kids in Southern California in the early Sixties for modifying their bikes with high-rise handlebars and elongated bicycle polo saddles and pretending they were riding motorcycle choppers. Schwinn took a look at that and came up with the Sting-Ray. Such a circle of love.

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Robb!

Interview with Chris King and you show some DT Swiss hubs being laced?

@falkirkshelby2313

4 жыл бұрын

I know right!!! Hahahaha

@markusbrunner9170

2 жыл бұрын

Yea a Dt-240s 😅

That was awesome! Great job Jon! Keep bringing in the thought leaders in cycling tech

Wow, really enjoyed this one! Must be like meeting one of your heroes. Fantastic to have information like this straight from the horse's mouth (not calling you a horse Chris). A very interesting insight. Thank you very much for bringing this to us. The power of KZread, you ain't gonna' be seeing this sort of thing on the TV! Happy riding! Or should I say "ride on" (I just spent a week in Watopia, my wife thinks I've been doing the garden). All the best, Tim

This is a great interview of Chris. Saw an interview of him about 5yrs ago at a bike show and he was not in a good mood. Glad to see him in good spirits.

Freehub noise is a reminder, you're not peddling hard enough. Also, it's great for alerting pedestrians to your presence.

@kidShibuya

6 жыл бұрын

Freehub noise is an annoyance. Also sound is energy, more sound = more energy loss.

@SaHaRaSquad

6 жыл бұрын

+Nathan Brown The energy loss due to that sound is completely irrelevant, especially compared to the energy loss because you're not pedaling. And indeed it's a great way to alert other people who can't figure out the difference between sidewalks and bike lanes.

@jasonforster9445

6 жыл бұрын

On my commuter I miss-adjust one brake (usually the front) so it squeals, that alerts them.

@SaHaRaSquad

6 жыл бұрын

+Jason Forster But isn't the point of alerting pedestrians in time to not need to brake every 100 meters?

@sergarlantyrell7847

6 жыл бұрын

It also alerts other riders who you wish to overtake that you are there and not to weave about.

What a fascinating guy. So good to hear him discuss real engineering problems.

The Freehub "Buzz" is the only sound I want my bike to make. 🐝

My wife came across a 83'-84' PK ripper 20" while shopping local thrift stores in my area, she knew my love of classic bmx ( im 53 ) and called me at work! Long story short... it had the 1st gen flight cranks with the single, also had a P.P.P. SKINNY stem ( petes precision products ), chris king headset and BB from im guessing, mid to late 80's , original, Z rims, with snake belly tires, a original haro 2 number plate, and the infamous UNI seat w/ well faded padded seat cover!!! Oh, and one cook bros front hub....price...$75.00 us. With markdown came to $66.00us. Oh yea,it had kkt lightning pedals. This was in 2017, the headset and BB were as solid and awesome as the day they were installed!!! I ended up trading it for a J. M.C. Darrell young with the BROWNING Two speed shift sytem, people over 50 will know...

One of my favourite GCN videos 😁👍 Genuinely interesting interview!! 🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️ More please.. 🤔

Whoever edited this, kudos! The conversation still works but it looks like much effort was taken to get to the point of the question.

Wow, such an interesting watch. I knew he made high quality products, but I'm so impressed by all the knowledge in his head! Legend.

Great stuff! Geeking out with Chris King. Such a cool conversation. Thanks!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks T-bone! 🤓

Been riding CK headsets for a long time.Nice to see the man.

Great video, thanks for the conversation with the master!

Chris King are expensive, but they are so worth it. I bought a hope pressfit BB last year and the bearings went within 6 months. My 10 year old thread fit bb is still going strong with the origional bearings. I generally keep my bikes for 5 years or so, and I know that fitting Chris King bearings will save me time and money and effort over that time. Its just a shame standards have changed and my older 142 and 100mm hubs wont fit on my new boost bike, otherwise they would be straight on.

Was such a honour to be their tech rep at the Bike Motion bike show in Holland for a few years, best job ever.

Thanks for answering my question, guys!

This was GCN Tech’s KOM...great video all around.

Love the idea of this kind of chat with people who made this stuff that we all love!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Julie, glad you enjoyed the ask!

GCN Tech, Great Content. Chris seems very knowledgeable. Thanks for uploading!

Nice work Jonny Tech, I really enjoyed that one. Mind, I do like all of your shows, as you know.

@JonCannings

6 жыл бұрын

Gethin D-J thanks. Who would you like us to interview next?

@rollinrat4850

6 жыл бұрын

Keith Bontrager. A friend of mine, ( a thermodynamics engineer at NASA) went to San Jose State in same class as Keith. He said Keith was so smart he drove up the curve and everybody couldn’t stand him!

@chrisfromfrome9016

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Dekerf.

Great interview with an industry legend.

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers parsnips!

Great vid! Loving the tech channel 10/10 for geekiness!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome James, thanks!

picking up my new road bike with chris king hubs and headset. looking forward to going cycling

Great interview!

Chris King is legend. Everybody that is interested in bicycles must have at least 1 Chris King product. Having the idea of producing the best products possible and giving lifetime warranty, it's the best thing to do. Ok, Chris King products might seem expensive at first sight, but the lifetime warranty is a no-brainer to buy these products. Lifetime warranty makes it inexpensive again. There is nothing better. And used Chris King products can be resold easily.

haven't seen this man crush since Dan did that interview with Chris Froome

@iancanuckistan2244

6 жыл бұрын

Dan was way worse with his Mark Cavendish interview. His jaw was hanging open, puppy dog eyes...

A very candid and fascinating discussion. I have always appreciated Chris King Bling but the prices make most of it borderline unattainable. I got a nice set of hubs from a certain UK company that also have that swarm of bees sound and didn't have to take out a loan. Maybe someday I will splurge on a headset. Nice job Jon!

Really a great interview.. Let's have more!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it Sam, who else would you like us to interview?

This... this.... is something many of us expecting from a tech show!

That was some of the most honest content I have seen on GCN.

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

👍

Can we get an uncut version?

Awsome interview!! Been using king head sets for years. They are the absolute best. The t47 sounds like a great idea. Threaded bottom brackets have always been the best way!! The rest is all pretty much crap!!

Great interview GCN Tech Team!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ruskin!

I thought he was going to fall asleep at the beginning, but once he got going...... every word was interesting! Thanks.

Oh it's kind of fun hearing Chris King talk while I'm staring at my 20 yo Chris King hub wondering how to rebuild it.... great products worth every penny.

The cut at 14:47 seems to cut him off before he tells us what the problem was with the titanium rings on the R45 hubs. What was the problem? Other than that, great interview.

@raphaeltiziani7476

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe a industry secret :/

@WildOutdoorLiving

6 жыл бұрын

I came to comment the same thing. I want to know!

@TypeVertigo

6 жыл бұрын

If I could hazard a guess, it would probably be wear-related. There's a reason why titanium cogs on a cassette don't find themselves trickling down from Dura-Ace to, say, Ultegra or 105. The engagement ring is a very similar item in terms of wear and duty, so most likely steel stood up better to wear than titanium did.

@chriskingbuzz

6 жыл бұрын

TypeVertigo is correct. The titanium drive and driven rings did not last as long. It was partly due to titanium being difficult to keep lubricated properly and partly because titanium is a "gummy" material. In the end we found that the performance and longevity was better with other materials.

@drewcama5481

6 жыл бұрын

Great answer, but why was the answer edited out of the video? This guy was so interesting to listen to I really would have liked to hear more from him But I really don't know anything about his products or how much better they are than anything else.

*Great video!!*

What a charming guy. Great video.

Now I am going to go do research on T47 BBs.

@81caasi

4 жыл бұрын

me too haha

@sdqsdq6274

3 жыл бұрын

cost over 200 pounds , lol , he's the king alright

@stuartdryer1352

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdqsdq6274 Yikes!

So humble man... come on. "You designed it" and he replies "it was a group effort". Very admirable.

There aren't many Chris King hubs here in Japan, but I heard 1 for the first time screaming down the hill going the opposite direction a couple of days ago. I thought at the time that it must be a Chris King hub. Sounded lovely.

great interview

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Donald!

Fantastic content.more chats with engineers please..

Amazing

He is the King. My 3 MTBs and 1 DH rig are laced with Chris King ISO hubs.

After destroying my fourth mountain tandem hub, I was considering what hub would withstand high off-road tandem torque loads (Think Slickrock Trail with two riders, low gearing, no front wheel lift, and no rear wheel spin.). I luckily had the chance to discuss my issue with not only Willie Hügi at Interbike, but the man himself, Chris King. However, at this time, he was still using the aluminum spline drive engagement ratchet. After going through three Hügi steel star ratchets, I was VERY wary of a hub using aluminum engagement ratchets. I ended up going with Phil Wood (which I split in half on Slickrock, so the saga continued. However, Phil Wood replaced the hub no charge, so they're golden.*) because I just couldn't imagine the aluminum ratchets (even with spline drive engagement) would withstand my stoker's and my HUGE thighs!!! Fast forward a few years and I notice Chris King switched over to stainless steel spline drive ratchets.... Ha! I KNEW Al wasn't a good idea! See Chris, I TOLD you so! And another cool anecdote... I ordered a used King hub service tool online and the seller included a bunch of extra bits & ring drive lube. Very nice of him! Well, included in the box was an old aluminum spline drive ratchet! It's totally worn out, but this Ebay seller could never have known how cool it was that he sent that, given my conversation with Chris King over a decade ago. Anyway, thought I would share. *Ha, and get this: when I was a little twerp just getting into road bikes, my Dad's partner was Phil Wood's doctor! Dammit, I could have met Phil Wood, THE Phil Wood! Oh well, I was too young to know at the time how cool that would have been.

Dude looks proud

Amazing how (not) excited he looks for the interview

This and Emma Pooley's Taiwan KOM bike video on the main channel are easily among the best interviews you guys have done.

Bravo King!!

It's good to be the king

I would love to see the unedited interview please post

Ron Jeremy? Is that you?

@nooksak1

6 жыл бұрын

GVGVIT1993 lol

@RileyGoss

6 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly!

@sgomez3047

6 жыл бұрын

😆

@TheMrgonzalo05

5 жыл бұрын

They both are famous for their "crank" work.

@olgafayn4638

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahah I thought the same thing!

Please put up an unedited version!!

Gotta love Chris King. Jon you looked like you were sitting with Santa. Hooked on every syllable just like I was. AWESOME 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Haha, cheers ACustom Bicycle!

Great Q&A.

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video - love the straight forward & in depth discussion!

WE WANT PART 2!!!!!

This was so nerdy... I love it

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Noah, we like to be nerdy! 🤓

@sudduthjonathan

6 жыл бұрын

I think it’s best described as “geeky”. 🤓

@rollinrat4850

5 жыл бұрын

Im proud to be both a bike geek and a bike nerd. My fixed gear ‘cross bike is so nerdy its cool! I dont give a rip if anybody else thinks otherwise. My only wish is CK Track hubs. When?!?! I would buy them now! Sight unseen! The 1st time I saw the Classic hubs disassembled I bought them on the spot! 25 years later, over 100000 miles down the trail, still perfect bearings. CK is the best you can buy!

Bit of a legend Mr King is.

How I would love to sit down in a pub with Chris King and Mike Burrows and just talk bikes!

Ah wow you wait to hit him with the biggest question on the Bottom Bracket question at the end. He he was a very interesting interview to see a guy who has so much technical knowledge there who could probably talk for an hour or so. Would have watched every minute of that! Would love to see interviews with the guys from Hope or Brookes. Ideally a trip to talk with Campagnolo?!

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers John!

Thanks GCN for picking my qestion on 7:50 Sorry i wasnt too clear.. so CK says they got a kit that can convert my old 135mm mtb hub to fit a 130mm road bike!!! So I could bring back an old hub to life

@kidsafe

6 жыл бұрын

Alan Zarczynski Save that hub for a disc road bike which already has 135mm spacing. Squeezing a 135mm hub into a 130mm dropout isn’t recommended unless you have a steel bike that can be cold-set. You’d also have poorer bracing angles on the non-drive-side.

@chriskingbuzz

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Alan, We can convert hubs to a lot of different specs. With modern bikes I'll need a few more details. Can you tell me the first three digits of the serial number on the hub? And for the bike that you would like to put it on is it a 130mm with rim brakes? Last, what cassette would you like to use? Your mountain hub can fit 10s road and 11s mountain cassettes.

yeeeeaaaahhh he is as coool as i thought he would be mint vid!

My CK ISO disc hubs were purchased in 2000. They have been through 5 bikes and 4 wheelsets. Still going strong. What do you say to that?

This guy is incredibly smart.

That bike at 4:38 is F'n clean!

More Chris King interviews and product reviews

What grease should I use to service my CK bottom bracket with steel bearings?

@rollinrat4850

3 жыл бұрын

For really fine bearings I like Campagnolo grease or Superweb grease made by RocknRoll. High quality bearings roll smoother and with less rolling resistance with a very high quality grease. BUT, besides track bikes or racing bikes I generally will use a more water resistant grease like Phil Wood because most of my riding is in dirt and dirty messy conditions. In my racing days I would use light oil in my hubs in a dry race and just overhaul the hubs right afterwards. I still keep several sets of wheels set up for wet and dry conditions, but that's mostly tire specific. I'm still the geeky CXer. My 'vintage' rain commuter beater bike gets boat trailer bearing grease pumped into it. I installed zerk fittings. Its using a 40 year old cottered BB and they're a real PIA to overhaul. Still runs pretty smooth all things considered. If you ride lots in rain, afterwards remove your seatpost turn the bike over for several hours and let the water drain rout. Any bb will last longer this way. Also realize that if you ride in very cold conditions, get your bike really wet or covered in snow then bring it into a much warmer space or room, capillary action can suck moisture past seals into the bearings. If you ride lots in bad conditions, the best thing you can do is overhaul ALL your bearings before and after every winter. I get reasibably priced loose bearing components to last for decades this way.

Hambini has a problem,not with ceramic bearings themselves, but the fact that most of them are much harder than steel and mounted steel races. So this sort of setup always wears faster causing friction when the entire idea is lower rolling resistance.

I still use a 68mm BSA threaded bottom bracket frame

I have been using Chris KING headsets, BBs and HUBS on all my Mountain and Road bike builds for the last 15 years. Love em, but would the SALES be as strong if Chris's SURNAME was say.... RAMSBOTTON hahahahahahaha

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

🤔

Was great to hear this from man I've admired for so long.

And what about mass details bearing and safety for riding and prochnost ?

Bianchi man talk talk..... Nice j.pat from Belgium 🚲

@gcntech

6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Pat!

"I'm not trying to sell bottom brackets" he says sitting in his booth selling bottom brackets... :) jk, i have a CK BB awaiting install on my bike right now :)

I'd like to know if Jon completely knew what he was talking about the whole time

13:45 the real question is where u want to lose energy, at the acceleration in a split second or every time u roll

I was waiting for an acoustic version of Heart of Gold 😕

I love Mr. King I got to meet him at a Christian open house and my dad got to drink whiskey with him and now the good friends I love him great video

6:19 answer is Industry Nine system wheels

Chris King makes some of the best bicycle components on the earth! He’s the only manufacturer that Im aware of who produces his own bearings. I have 3 headsets and 4 hubs from the beginning of production. All still are running the original bearings they came with. I know they’re pricey, but if you are the type who buys quality for the long run (and MAINTAIN IT)these components will last a lifetime. I use my gear hard, riding all terrain in all weathers and seasons. I dont baby it but I do maintain it regularly. I was also a machinist and appreciate well engineered AMERICAN MADE!! products.

@dudeonbike800

5 жыл бұрын

His angular contact bearings are indeed a thing of beauty. They obviate the durability problems with typical cartridge sealed bearings.

@rollinrat4850

4 жыл бұрын

Dude On Bike Ive machined and installed bearings in aircraft, spacecraft and medical devices These bearings are on that level. They’re exponentially better than the off the shelf, typically Asian made cartridge bearings that almost all the other high end hubs specify. CK bearings are angular contact and are adjustable for wear and preload, something else not many high end hubs allow. This means these bearings can be adjusted to last longer, instead of tolerating play and eventually needing replacement CK bearings can be serviced by removing the snap rings and seals, something thats hard to do on cheap cartridge bearings without damaging the seals. Every single aspect of CK components are optimized. Im sure all the materials used are verified and documented as well. These are the kind of aspects used in the highest end manufacturing for high reliability products. Ive serviced quite a few CK components for customers. Ive never needed to replace a bearing on my own or customers components ! . None have failed, even abused hubs could be resuscitated. Ive seen examples of almost every other hub maker fail in one way or another. The ring drive is the largest driver on the market and helically drives together the more torque is applied. The area of contact in the driver is larger by far than any other hubs Ive seen. They claim the ring drive will endure 800 ft/lbs of torque! More than many hot rods and race cars! Ive seen numerous pawl hubs fail, frequently destroying the pawls,pockets or hub bodies in the process. Pawls and springs are small and easily lost. Ive even seen abused star ratchets in DT hubs(generally really good hubs, excepting run of the mill bearings) fail from neglect The Teeth literally sheared off! Theres a good reason Chris King components cost what they do! Most modern bike parts are actually compromises in design, manufacturing and materials to increase ease of manufacturing and bottom line profits. Chris King stuff isnt simply blingy, pretty, shiny and noisy. Actual high quality, ultra precision, high reliability and the best engineering principles were applied in their manufacture.

My Chris King Headset cost more than the frame..

@rollinrat4850

5 жыл бұрын

Believe me, your money was well spent. Never let it go! My oldest CK headset has been on 3 different frames over 30 years. I have 2 newer units that have been beaten much harder offroad and in bad weather and deep creeks. I have two hubsets 25 and 15 years old. All together way over 100000 miles on these parts. I lost track. ALL are still using the original bearings.

@actualsurfer

5 жыл бұрын

The Chris King Economy...His headsets never lose their value.

18 years on, CK mtb and road headsets are spot-on, original steel bearings, re-lube every year or so if I think about it, compared to every other Headset which have worn, corroded, developed play, ovalized the headtube, and in one new bike circa 1990, actually exploded into pieces after 25 miles (warrantied by brand, OEM versions of the famous S brand were flawed). CK has lasted because like a few rare start-ups in this and other industries, strongly idiocyncratic ideals combined with a genius for designing entirely new solutions to old problems, or simplifying /lightening /sealing / toughening weak areas of parts production make for industry-wide advances. Surviving financially has always been harder for many brilliant engineers; niche boutique bike markets may help support small folks, but quality takes real know-how, and is expensive, and the go fund me approach is not really looking like much more than a way to fund designer concepts because owning a one-off jacket is way different from owning a one-off derailleur or wheelset.

Chris king reminds me of my late uncle .

why does the bottom bracket removal tool slip and scratch up the nice finish on bottom bracket. is there a trick?. I know you dont want square edges that would fill with dirt...the roundness seems to make it hard to keep from jumping out..

@rossfuller8025

4 жыл бұрын

There is.

Seems a nice guy

Brilliant.. if Chris talked about Gary Fisher that would be supercool ...