I cannot believe that you recomend that method! That's how i work in my life: "i will place this in the place where i will look for it if i need it". You're awesome!

@slcpunk2740

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah and it applies to a lot of other areas too. I've been telling people this for years at work, if you can't remember your password then reset it to the first thing you tried.

@sillymamacita3854

2 жыл бұрын

Professional organizer here and this is the method I recommend as well!! Store it where your first instinct would be to look for them. 😁

Excellent tip about placing all the circles/arrows on your drawing *prior* measuring. I usually measure then draw it, and frequently get back to my workshop and realize i am missing critical dimensions while also including measurements i don't really need. Defining & drawing it first sounds much more effective.

*Mrs. Savage:* Slow and steady wins the race *Adam:* I'm a redhead and red is the fastest color

"If I needed it right now, where would I look for it." This is exactly how I re-organize my shop when I clean off the workbench. I have a horrible habit of leaving stuff on the bench when I am in a project and start something else before tidying up. Having a torsion box workbench adds to the problem, tools go there for ready access and then I bury them. Drawers are where tools go to die, but it helps when you label them appropriately. I use oil paint pens to mark them up.

Have one to three places with "things not fitting anywhere else" A drawer for small things, a box for bigger items and a shelf place for things to take a little care of so they don't break. So if you search for something you don't know where it could be since ages, it would be probably in one of these storage options of random things. Great strategy also for labelling. I do it like that with my art tools. For example i got my "random wacky pencils" and "random decor assets" boxes for the experimental moments with my kids. 😀

@ciarangale4738

2 жыл бұрын

I believe that constitutes the "dreaded miscellaneous draw" that was mentioned in the video

@lindada1111

2 жыл бұрын

@@ciarangale4738 ohhh i see

I love the program and your honesty is refreshing.

"you need some place where stuff can gather, and than you attack that place, and it gathers again .." Adam's description of my whole shop is rather accurate...🤣

@3nertia

2 жыл бұрын

My whole LIFE feels personally attacked ...

My biggest challenge with one-offs is that I will _definitely_ forget I have the object at all. The "pile of stuff on the bench" in my shop is certainly partially there due to lack of discipline, but it's also partially there because I can easily see everything and remember. There must be a middle ground somewhere... for now, I'm just adding as much bench space as possible. Edit: Something I'm slowly realizing: when looking for something, check the misc bin first. A better thing may present itself, and at least you might refresh a memory.

The thing about that special tool you know you have but can't find, is when you break down and buy another to finish the job, then think of a place to put it out of the way but where you can find it next time and the one you couldn't find is already in that spot.

There are so many bits and bobs that are going to be useful one day. A container(s) that are sectioned is the first option. Once that section gets filled it becomes it’s own storage space. Otherwise it’s just a place to go when you think you have some obscure bit that will be a perfect solution

Oh my God that made me cackle! It isn’t finding a place to store it it’s remembering that place! The thing that I find works very well periodically get a good bottle of wine and just enjoy the evening looking around and opening drawers and looking under things! You’ll be amazed what you discovered things you perhaps and maybe bought after the last couple bottles of wine lol great show thank you!

@warpman74

2 жыл бұрын

What a brilliant idea, I must try this!

The level of tidy-ness in my shop reflects my current mental state. If i'm in an intensive period of assembly and testing i use all surfaces including the floor around my chair. At the end it is a complete junkyard. But once i'm starting something new and just working with my hear i tidy up to the degree it becomes a pharmacy like. And if i'm depressed... it gets bad:)

@spagamoto

2 жыл бұрын

Same. It's a useful window into my state. Truthfully, I should periodically take a look at my shop to get ahead of any bad bouts... I'm sure my shop is a pretty good canary!

I am a huge fan of making a misc. bin for each category of stored items in my art studio. There is always that one awkward item that never fits in regular storage too, lol. For example, all my paints fit into a regular storage, but one large one is too big to fit. I have a misc. "painting" bin that I keep it in, along with a king size paintbrush, a color wheel, and a few other things. I have another for misc. sewing, one for misc. beading, etc. This way, I always know exactly where to look for any item I can't find. :)

@lindada1111

2 жыл бұрын

Me too lol i guess artists are okay with the misc boxes

I certainly really appreciate stories like these. It may not be your original goal, but you've become a sort of maker/philosopher guru, so when you do get into your personal life anecdotes, I find them spectacularly useful--including where you draw the line on what to share. Much love to my maker shaman!

A couple more thoughts on one offs: what are they used with? Kitting! I don't need all my Allen wrenches in one drawer; keeping the ones to fix a motorcycle in the garage, smaller ones with the 3D printer. Keeping the setup gauge with the machine. I had a pile of tools I was reluctant to put away because I'd gathered them for a task. So I put them all in a box and they became a kit.

It is with time and need that you find a place for everything. I don't have a workshop but I'm an illustrator and I have everything separated into folders like backgrounds; people; vehicles and stuff and several shortcuts ready for what I need. Only with time and convenience that you can achieve a "perfect" organization point.

@3nertia

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you kind of need to know what your workflow is *before* you can organize said workflow lol

When I rearrange rooms I draw a rough layout of the room with all the furniture in it, then measure everything and write the measurements next to the sides the belong to. I always round up tho. Just to be safe. Then I open photoshoot and create new documents and use the inches as pixels. This gives me a 1in/1px ratio so I can rearrange and move things around and see how it would look and how much space we will have.

the point of conflict between partners in relation to organisation is the packing of a dishwasher:-)

that measurement layout/placeholder trick was *SWEET!* much thanks.

Two years in and I don't understand how Adam is still getting so good questions that he has probably never been asked before.

Create an address book for your items, a literal address book works well, so you can add to an alphabetised list of where your items are. When you put your entry in, write the date next to it, so you know it was at X on X date, if it's not there you may also remember the time you used it in between. E.g. corner wooden racking, darkest stained drawer with a pink sticker on it (in case you move the drawers around :P) Use the 'where would you look for it if' method to find its home, then log it. Even just the act of writing it down adds another link in your noggin and makes an easy visual memory for you, especially if you write the address book entry where you're storing it.

I have several Evernote files I use to locate items. I have sorting boxes numbered on all sides. I used "voice to text" to type what was in each box in a file named "Which Box?" So box 1 has wood screws of various types. Box 2 has machine screws and nuts and plastic insert nuts. Box 3 is all of the stainless steel screws, bolts, etc. When I want to know where plastic anchors are the search function in Evernote finds the note snd highlights the word. The garage is a medium functioning hoarder paradise. Too much stuff in too little space, but! My shelving is end on to the wall with a 42 inch space between them. As I walk out into the garage the first shelf unit is #1, the second is #2, etc. Each shelf is divided in two. An item on unit 1, shelf 3 on the right side is given a location: 1,3,B. This file is, "Which Shelf?" Office Supplies are on 2,2,A&B. My challenge is to put things back where they need to be.

My wife and I have moved a couple of times in the past 10 years and I had to pack up everything in my garage. There were a lot of one-off items so I couldn't put each one in a box with similar items so a lot of those ended up in boxes with lots of other one-off items. They are things that I wouldn't need frequently so I left them in the box, made a list of what was in the box and taped that piece of paper on the outside of the box. I have 3 of those boxes so if I need to find something I just check the lists on each of those 3 boxes.

For one-offs, I do put them with each other, but I use clear PVC travel/toiletry bags of various sizes to store things and also clear bins and so because I can see exactly what's in my "one-off storers", it doesn't feel like opening a junk drawer or a bin of shadows. For my next shop build I'm also planning a few upward-facing LEDs in the shelves themselves to illuminate what's in the bins stored on them.

Hey Adam, you're a high strung dude and an absolute inspiration! I'm gonna clean up my shop now! Cheers!

For room dimensions I use onshape on my phone. I'll draw the basic outline ensuring only one line is locked to an origin and a horizontal or vertical constraint. Starting with the one constrained corner, I'll take the wall length measurement, then measurements for the opposite wall and using whatever's to hand ( a book, magazine or framing square) to check for any perpendicular corners. When the drawing is fully constrained I know I have all the measurements

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I have a “misc” drawer but it’s in plain sight and also labeled “to sort”.

A great idea for storing and labeling is to broaden categories, so that an area is associated with multiple types of things. Sorting next by size can be helpful. So if I have a place for cables and hoses and tubes and other types “long things that are narrow”, then I have a sub category of stuff that’s a foot, meter, and really long. All depends upon how you think of the objects.

Perfect! This is exactly what I do to try to keep track of things. Especially if I looked for an hour for that one thing, lol.

This is a great video. Thanks, mate.

For one off tools you need to think of how often you need access to it and how easy you need it to be accessed. This changes in my space during different seasons since it's too small to keep everything accessible and the things we use the most have to be out front and the most easily accessed.

This is why I watch you.

Awesome!

7:43 Except when the phone rings, then you start losing things everywhere... Make a bucket for stuff "When the phone rings", near, or in the office maybe.

One off items seem to be the ones I forget I have and end up re-buying only to find I have one already!

I have someone offs that I rarely use, but they got stuck in some place because it was convenient at that moment and now I dare not put them anywhere else because at least I know where I can find them. They are not in the best place, or the most logical place, but they remain where I put them the first time I laid them down.

I love the idea of being a tested patron for the unedited version of adam working, i think that WOULD be oddly therapeutic.. HOWEVER! I can't get over the demerit badges lol. I will buy every single one he ever comes out with and I hope it ends up being an absolute wall full.

I lost something. Having been used to having it out on top f other stuff for years, but getting frustrated about having to move it every 3rd time I was in my shop, I found a home for it with related items. Then I went looking for it and couldn't find it, 5 times over the course of 1 day, even checking twice where I thought I might have put it. It was in that place with related things, and twice I looked but I couldn't see it, because in that place it didn't match the picture in my mind of what it looks like sitting out. 3rd time in that place of related things, going piece by piece and checking it in extreme detail, and I finally found it.

I like to keep a list hanging on my toolbox of things that I've put in odd locations. Usually me writing it down helps me remember it, and I don't have to go look at my list.

Freight train, explains me and my ADHD Maker skills and faults. Thanks! Always like to understand myself

I think we need another shop tour!

For one-offs, I already know (esp. @ this stage of my life) that I won’t remember where I put it, because wherever I place it will be arbitrary. This is why I created a list in i Reminders called the “WHERE IS IT list.” 🔎 Since typing the item into the search bar will show me where it is, the format I created is simple. A sample entry would be something like: Hardware for curtain rod support -> Tool cart (2nd shelf, basket in front) or Replacement fuse for string lights -> Inside hardware sorter I’ve been using this system for years, and it works for me because I don’t have that much stuff, relatively speaking. If I needed more details, I’d probably create an Excel spreadsheet (or something similar), so I can add & sort as much info as necessary. Basically, whatever you decide on should be SEARCHABLE, via keywords, so make sure you describe it in as much detail as you need for recall, and that the search function is smart enough to retrieve your info. It’s also a good idea to add a PHOTO of its location, if your app allows for it (iReminders does).

When you DO lose something that is a misc item - try to strongly remember the first place you look for it. It's sort of the inverse/hard way of determining "where should I put this". Rely on your brain's self-guess-timation. Since, in the future when you haven't exactly lost it, the chances are that your brain will generate the same answer, only this time the item will be there because that's where you placed it after finally finding it the previous time.

I know what you mean and I sort of agree but the first place I would look at is on my bench witch now is an overwhelming mess of stuff.. (organized chaos) So I guess the second place I would look for it would be a better place for it..

I think every work shop needs that dump spot - for me normally it's a spare bench. Gets too crowded and you do a clean up on it occasionally. And normally it's the bench closest to the entry. "I handed my wife the other end of the tap measure" - well there was your first mistake 😂. Best tool I think I've bought recently was a laser measure. No more "Hold it, hold it hard up again the wall, no not that measurement,", or letting go of it and smashing your fingers. Saves a lot of arguments.

Why not use say a vector graphics program to draw out a rough floor plan of your shop. And then figure out where you want your one-off tool to be. And then put it there, and then write that label out in your program in that part of the floor plan? That way, if in a year you need it but don't remember where you put it, you can look in that vector program and find where it is.

For one offs- assuming we are talking hand tools or smaller sized stuff - make a container / wall rack or whatever- for ALL your one offs- then you can easily find and store any of them.

@3nertia

2 жыл бұрын

That's great, IF you have the space to do that lol

My work shop looks a mess. Organised arrangement is what I call it. My wife tells me to get a bulldozer to clean it up. The thing is if I want anything I know where it is. I totally cleaned up the workshop once and I'm still looking for stuff I know I have but can't remember where I packed it.

I also lose stuff on my computer, and have to search for it with the file manager software. It is a pity you can't do that with the workshop. I would like to have an RFID tag on every item.

You make a spot called " The one of's " it will turn into a pile but filled with singles.

Nice

Countersinks? Counterbores? Those have roughly similar purposes, so putting the counterbores in with the countersinks makes perfect sense. It's where I'd put them.

Have a drawer/area labled one offs.

The maker artist Nemo in the east bay has a giant space. He created a photo file system in large prints in drawers to find his objects. (not tools).

I still remember you saying, drawers are where things go to die. LOL I'm the same way

Could you come up with a good, cheap way to make dividers for pelican cases? I’ve got several and was wanting to organize a couple first aid kits, I looked on the pelican site and MAN! They’re just too expensive.

Love the videos!!! Have you ever proven or dis-proved the videos where guys are using a car alternator and producing 220V and even making them run perpetually?

How does someone become a “guest” at the Savage home?

Hey Adam!! Always loved your work on and now outside of MythBusters. I know it's a big ask, but do you think itd be possible to make a tall neck from horizon: zero dawn? Probably a little much on your one day builds but if anyone can, I'm sure you could mate

Home organization is easy for us. I own the kitchen, the attic and the basement. She owns the rest. We dont argue over those spaces. The result is she eats what I cook and I deal with throw pillows.

I have been wanting to ask how you organize Tupperware for the longest time, I was hoping I would have an answer by the end of this, I will have to ask myself

I love you adam, your work shop would just kill me....I need more order to think

I usually find stuff a month after I already bought it’s “replacement”, I need to organize better…

Does anyone else take note of which apron Adam wears?

find out if you are a visual thinker or a language thinker. make a system that sorts things into either language categories or categories of its physical appearance ... and maybe have a database that you can search for it on. adam savage is obsiously a doer, he sorts things in his brain for what use they are.

You mean you don't say, "Alexa, remember I put my Potrzebie in the back of my sock drawer."?

Put it somewhere weird, you'll remember an odd place easier than a common place

My entire shop is a pile I continuously tackle...

Jamie and Grant built Battlebots. How come you never did?

Why not just take a picture of the item, print out the picture, mark it with the place where you put the thing, and enter the print into a binder for "One-offs storage"?

Anyone else see the gravity defying wooden box and drawings on the back wall (past Adam's right shoulder), and wondering when they'll fall?

If it's a one off tool, do you really need to buy it. Could you borrow one then return it. No need to store it.

House tour?

The Crafsman uses wood sugar molds for his small tools, but I'm really just plugging da Crafs'man.....

Guilt by association, association by guilt.

heh you're so friggen cool dude

Mrs. Dontrythisathome never watched MYTHBUSTERS?

Are you consider yourself a Carpenter? Mechanic? Creator? Artisan or all of the above?

or you will forget it put it with a project

duh.. catalogue

You must sometimes wonder why folks ask you for organisation tips.

early gang

Anybody else immediately smell Sharpie when he was drawing?

Second

Room Dimensions - Cubi Casa is free for your first house. Use your phone and walk the perimeters of the rooms with the app and in a couple of hours, you get a fairly accurate layout of your house.

adam ... i am convinced that history channels current strategy is due to mythbuster success: the producers were losing money and panicking for desparate measures to save their jobs! they looked at the success of mythbusters i thought :" i bet the inverse might sell?! what about the concept of myth promotors! myth generators! and Violia we get crap programing like: ancient aliens and oak island treasure myths!