This Inkcarceration lineup is so good: bit.ly/inkrockfeed

It is what it is. I kind of figured the band would be on borrowed time when they reformed, knowing that there just wasn't any way for things to ever be completely the same. I was surprised they even reformed at all when it happened. At least we got 1 more good album before it finally seems to have fully imploded. Was fun while it lasted.

@thedogfromraditude5449

2 жыл бұрын

It is truly sad how everything went down.

@digitxl2022

Ай бұрын

This didn’t age well 😭😭

@braddorcas9363

Ай бұрын

Why didn’t it age well exactly? Not much has changed since I posted it. Og members are still gone and nothing new has come out since the return album to judge wether they’re still good or not with new members

This is sad… I want to be optimistic but Nick Hippa, Jordan Mancino, and especially Josh Gilbert’s clean vocals were a huge part of the formula that made this band awesome. Not sure if a new line up can capture all that ☹️

@clayholt1745

2 жыл бұрын

Man I was at the Fort Smith show and it just wasn’t the same

@mikes0

2 жыл бұрын

They need someone with the grit in their voice to capture josh's vocals

@illusionistbeamish4204

Жыл бұрын

Dude Tim has controlled pretty much every aspect of that band since day one. Lol it's literally Tim's band.

@thedayidied

Жыл бұрын

Meh. Clint Norris did amazing for AILD in their first two albums. Gilbert will be missed, but he's replaceable. So are Hipa and Mancino if I'm honest. As long as Sgrosso at the very least remains, I don't think AILD will change that much at its core.

@therealestShibby

Жыл бұрын

@@illusionistbeamish4204 he also tried to pay to have his wife murdered so he's probably not the best person to be in a band with anymore lmao.

Jordan was a founding member. He and Tim were the only OGs left.

@FighterMindset2024

2 жыл бұрын

Phil and Tim are the most important members being they wrote all yhe music. It's once one of them leaves will this band be dead

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

They’re already dead without Jordan as far as I’m concerned…

@DMBlade4

Ай бұрын

Luckily Tim has a lot of experience with incarceration

When the replacements/fill-ins are actually dope af All the best to them, can't wait to hear what's next.

@RustyChessGrinder

2 жыл бұрын

it really do be a new band from here on out

@randomrailing51

5 ай бұрын

There ya go!

@titzmageex

2 ай бұрын

It's just not AILD without Josh though.

@bentonmitchell7891

2 ай бұрын

Was thinking the same thing. Excited to see what they put out!

I hope they don't split up, find new members in the band and keep making new albums

@iAmToDd6691

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. One of my favorite all time metalcore bands.

I saw them in 2019 right before the pandemic hit with the full lineup and they were so tight and awesome 😎🤘🔥♥️👏 it's sad that they cannot come together and reconcile past issues but it is also cool that the members say they can't continue and leave, cuz no one wants a band fighting on stage(like Aerosmith used to smh)or breaking up mid tour or calling it quits. As long as the crushing metal continues with the positive lyrics of change, I'm down for another album.

I really hope they can carry on. I'm interested to see how things unfold once the dust has settled a little and the other guys open up as to what's been going on. Not sure that might actually happen though as it's pretty obvious from new information that this turmoil has been happening for quite some time but hadn't been made fully public. Both Nick and Jordan seem to have been put in a situation where they were forced to make statements that there were issues in the band, as opposed to an official statement from the band itself. Maybe some time is/was needed to figure things out between members and someone (not saying Tim specifically, because we don't know) wanted to just move forward as quickly as possible? Who knows. I wish them the best and I'm glad to hear that they're still doing great live without the other guys.

It's a bummer. Jordan is one of the best Metalcore drummers and he was one of the founding members. AILD will never be the same

Saw them in Tucson with the replacements. They sounded great and Tim hinted at some new material. Just gonna sit back and watch it pan out.

Whatever works for As I Lay Dying for them to continue I'm all for it sometimes change is necessary it really sucks that Nick Josh and now Jordan Mancino are gone but it is what it is. I would rather have a band replace other members to keep on going than breaking up completely

@quasimodoshunchback

2 жыл бұрын

yes. this ....... chelsea grin anyone ?

@sermilion_audio

2 жыл бұрын

Tim is AILD. I don't care for any other members. Even Josh. I generally hate whiny vocals in Metalcore.

@EvolutionIX219

Жыл бұрын

@@sermilion_audio Eh I wouldn't really say Tim is AILD. For me the band has always been about the riffs. They were an absolute riff factory at one point.

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Jordan is irreplaceable. Can someone else play his music? I sure but it will never sound/feel the same. I loved NP in Unearth and he is super talented but I saw AILD with him instead of Jordan and wanted to throw up in my mouth the whole show. He’s great but he’s not Jordan…

@chrisbruchak4519

9 ай бұрын

Andddddddddd Tim is responsible for 80% of the rifs that came from AILD. You can bet your life that not a single note on a guitar made its way to the album without tims stamp of approval. That was the whole problem with the band. Tim could never let anyone play their own instrument and just shut and sing.@@EvolutionIX219

Really glad I got to see the original lineup in 2019 in San Diego.

These guys wanted Tim back so bad and now they’re all ditching him… WTF??

When Tim was incarcerated I was like a senior in highschool & I thought to myself ‘I’ll never hear another new ALID album ever again’ boy when that My Own Grave teaser came out I was absolutely mind blown. So thankful for their last album cause it was like they never skipped a beat. Sad how times change

AILD becoming the 2000’s Metalcore super group! Happy to see Josh play with Spiritbox, and the opportunities for the hired guns, esp for the Unearth dudes to get on the bigger stages again.

@skundini4999

2 жыл бұрын

Whos in AILD now?

@zxc521137210

2 жыл бұрын

@@skundini4999 Ryan from Miss May I and two guys from Unearth, Nick and Ken, but Nick just left Uneath a while ago.

@DCBMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@Monkey Prick I still think about Unearth's performance at Mayhem Fest a decade or so ago and Ken and Buzz mid song went off stage and climbed their bus and started shredding on top of the bus. Those dudes always put on a good show!

@DCBMusic

2 жыл бұрын

@Monkey Prick Nice dude!

Saw them in Knoxville last week. Great show, lots of energy.. wish them the best going forward

What is the song playing the background.

Unpopular opinion. Phil and Tim still write incredible music together, and Phil is the O G behind the classic riffage that comes out of AILD. I think the addition of Ryan, Ken, and Nick really adds a new refreshing touch of chemicals to the sound, and frankly, I am here for this. Ready for the next album. 🔥🔥

What remaining members? He's clearly speaking for himself.

@davidnissim589

2 жыл бұрын

Phil (lead guitarist) is still a member, but I wouldn't be surprised if he bails too

@adrianpearcy8531

2 жыл бұрын

I hope not

@realdealio1

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidnissim589 Phil S. needs to makes a statement.

@BathedInTorment

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidnissim589 I’m sure it’s coming soon. Phil’s a trooper, but for how long will it last till he decides to throw in the towel like the other 3 did.

@RowdyYates12

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidnissim589 Hipa was the lead. He was replaced by Evan White. Phil's rythm. You can fact check that if you don't believe me.

I saw them live last night and I'll say this, they did rather well with the 3 fill in members. They actually put on a great show! In saying all of this, it wasn't the same as the lineup before the 3 members left but the world is full of very talented musicians. Although the core of the 3 exiting members were massively talented, there's others out there equally as talented. Here's to hoping Tim finds the right replacements and that this band don't turn into another Queensryche debacle because of lawsuits and such...

@chipchiperson679

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t get past that he put a hit out on his wife. Appears the other band members have become fed up with his unapologetic attitude to that which has spilled over to their lack of a collaborative relationship

@Hippo007

2 жыл бұрын

@@chipchiperson679 Yeah, I agree with you on that! One could hope he was released early because they believed he was rehabilitated and not because of prison over crowding. Whatever the reason, he has some demons to face and that particular action will follow him the rest of his life. During the show, he paused to thank everyone for still allowing him to do what he loves. Let's hope that he was being sincere and that it means he was rehabilitated. I also agree with you on the band members. When this all took place, they tried to move on with Wovenwar since Tim was a founding member of AILD. Well, we all know that didn't go well in the end. It just wasn't the same band. I think all of this turmoil is the after effect of the decisions he made. Let's face it, good musicians are everywhere. the chemistry from a select group of musicians are not. I know this contradicts a bit of what I said in the original post but I thought about that more after making it. I guess we'll all see where this goes...

@chipchiperson679

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hippo007 I think they wanted to recapture the nostalgia they had with AILD Turning a blind eye to Tim pleading guilty to attempted murder thinking he was in some way innocent. Four years is a long time to be apart and their side project band wasn’t succeeding without having Tim as their frontman So they selfishly reformed AILD to regain the fame and money that was lost while Tim was in prison. It gradually occurred to them that Tim is not a good person as his dark personality traits were resurfacing And isn’t innocent of anything which strained their conscience and made them want to leave. I was and still am a huge AILD fan But I’d be a huge hypocrite to support a guy who tried to kill his wife by going to their live concert which is occurring tonight in my city. I had every intention of going leading up to it until today when I realized the reality of what I was about to see. I think these guys felt the same as it took them a while to have all that sink in.

Thanks for the explanation, sorry that you all are going through that, best wishes rock on. 🥁🎸🎤

Name of the background song?

It went from as I lay dying to my band is dying…🤷‍♂️

Ryan Neff is THE perfect fit to be the next bassist and clean vocalist for AILD. That is exactly what he has done with MMI, and both Gilbert and Neff have very similar vibes vocally. AILD couldn't have picked a better replacement, except if they somehow convinced Tom Araya lmfao. Now THAT would be an interesting collab.

You gotta know there's a problem when 3 members leave.

@moniquelaviolette3090

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh maybe because of Tim and something called morality.

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Gee I wonder what that problem could be?

All Tim's side projects have sounded amazing, he'll be just fine. I will mis Josh's vocals though.

Austrian Death Machine... The only update I care to hear about...

Love this band ! Been listening to them since 2008 i definitely understand nothing lasts forever they’ve been together longer than I have been with any girl lol people change and when it’s time to part ways you know it sucks but how it goes

I'm confused with Tim statement..are the original members still involved or they officially out..?

The best of as I lay dying has left the band, literally all the things that I liked about as I lay dying was performed by them, the drummer hits harder in this band I always knew it, those clean vocals are just perfect for metalcore, the riffs from Hipa because I’m pretty sure that is thanks to him that their songs have so many cool and different riffs, I don’t think is going to be the same band after all this changes😢

So does this mean we’re getting another Wovenwar album?

I'll actually miss Josh more than Nick and Jordan. Ryan is a great bassist and strong vocalist though so hopefully, he can make us all proud!

I was really crushed when I heard that Mancino left. I’m going to music school right now and I study his work anytime I do rhythm and groove assignments. The funny thing is I’m writing progressive house music lol

Tim and Phil are the backbone of AILD. They will be just fine and I look forward to new music with their lineup change. Change is not always a bad thing guys. The situation is sad, but there are many positives and things to look forward to

@AA-wu2fk

Жыл бұрын

😂

@Cognitoman

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Wow listen to that supergroup line-up: ex-Unearth drummer Nick Pierce, Ryan Neff of Miss May I on bass and clean vox, and Unearth guitarist Ken Susi + Tim

Mancino just wants to wash his hands...

Why did the other members leave?

@dougleydorite

2 жыл бұрын

Might have something to do with Tim being a psychopath

Oh well, some people grow older and realize they have other priorities. Not to mention, being on the road touring for so long and being away from the people that matter the most pbly does some real damage psychologically. Wish em all the best of luck with whatever their future holds!

@chipchiperson679

2 жыл бұрын

Especially when he hired a hit man to kill his wife. Appears these guys finally came to the realization on how fk’d up it is to be around somebody like that who still hasn’t provided any real justification of doing that

I am a huge AILD fan and it shocks me that the band is imploding from within like this. Losing hipa was bad enough but losing your drummer and bassist too? This band has a lot of adversity to overcome. Slipknot was able to replace Joey Jordison with a world class drummer in Jay Weinberg so I think AILD can do the same if they take their time to find the right pieces.

Crazy and sad how things end up like that between band members who have been touring together as a band for years most of their adult lives and are basically brothers. How can they let that happen things must be pretty bad if it turned out this way.. aild was one of my favorite bands too all of their original and iconic sound comes from the original band members. It will never be the same Tim might as well just create a new band instead of piggybacking off AILD success

I’m going to be honest, this whole statement is kind of sus... I think Jordan probably owns part of the name, and only wanted his royalties before he left, and now Tim is trying to pin the blame on him. “2 years ago” was when Nick and Tim’s jail wife both left, and it says a lot about when the fractures in the band fully opened up. The way he says “the remaining members” like Jordan is part of a minority is almost laughable, as Tim’s pushed away everyone expect Phil (for the minute anyway). At the end of the day, nothing that guy says can be taken as truthful, as we’re talking about someone who tried to kill his wife and showed no remorse until he came out of jail and realised his band had moved on without him. He then wrote a whole record about being “healed” which just became a bit toxic tbh...

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

This

I think that they don't want to play with tim lambesis cause of what he did, he just hired a hitman, no one got killed or hurt, Tim went to prison for what he did and learned that he made a mistake and wants to be a better person and the Nick, Jordan and Josh haven't moved on from the past.

WoW!¡!

With josh being gone I just don’t know he was a huge part of what brought me back to aild everytime.

AS I LEFT THE BAND

I wouldn’t be surprised if Tim was really the main reason why all of them just left because of him. As I lay dying use to be good but after what happen yeah it’s clear nothing gonna change for the better. I still stand that tim should’ve gotten 50years behind bars.

@tylersmith9868

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Totally agree. And I think anyone who thinks differently is insane.

@jug1415

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylersmith9868 I was one of those fulls, specially after the lyrics and the heart to heart they had back in 2018 I think. I mean once Hippa jumped out, I knew something was wrong, meanly because he seemed to be the most affected one when all the Tim/wife situation unfold back in 2013.

@ghostcat8244

2 жыл бұрын

To me I don’t care if he was on drugs or whatever that’s like saying for a drunk driver.. but when you cross the line of harming your wife with her kids.. that’s the level where he should’ve put in jail for 50years of attempted murder even if he hire a hitman I still still feel so strong bout it. I understand he serve his time but I just you can’t forgive a person like that!! You can’t.

@dougleydorite

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Tim is a POS

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Hippa let on that Tim was still the same egomaniac as just before he went inside.

This is why I like Wovenwar better and hope they get back to making music again

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to like Wovenwar but the music wasn’t as intense and Shane’s vocals are ass…

I am here to judge music, no people's life, So people seriously calm down. The only important thing is that: Metalcore Is Not Dead.

I doubt Tim will let the band fully die off, he’ll most likely bring in new members. It is what it is, it’s no surprise of what Tim did affected the long terms of the band and permanently scarred the name. If anything I’d say Tim should just find full time new members and rename the band.

@somewhatsomething4882

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he should quit music and become a televangelist. And I fully believe this will happen at some point... 😈

@arkangelarkangel5348

2 жыл бұрын

The cash-cow that I've just asked says: "Nope, he will never ever rename the band".

Interesting.

Heard there was a 5000 dollar hit out on Jordan?? That’s the buzz around the gym.

It went from As I Lay Dying to Is My Band Leaving.

Getting unearths drummer to fill in was a good choice imo

And i thought ZAO had line up dramas in the early 2000s this one really takes the cake

@jasondoolin6476

2 жыл бұрын

Only real og’s know ZAO exists

@jeromesimon8916

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasondoolin6476 absolutely 97 - 2002 were glorious years for underground metalcore

@jasondoolin6476

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeromesimon8916 with the formation of underoath.. holy crap the hype in middle school

Just Wow…

As I Lay Dead

Tim will find a way to make it work. I don't judge people but when you lose your mind and try to hire someone to off your wife I understand how lingering I'll effects can exist. Sometimes it good to walk away instead of being unhappy. The music will remain and the lyrics will still be there. It's just different faces.

Does that mean theirs a new Wovenwar album/tour ?

It's almost a completely different band.

I wouldn't be into metal if it weren't for AILD.

Very gutsy for the members to leave the band.

Now I see why I got these free tickets for tonight at starland ballroom….

does that mean we get a 4th austrian death machine album soon? quadruple brootal or something

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

You mean the album that fans already paid for?

Bro, just say As I Lay Dying

Man they got some damn good fill ins tho

@fupaking7717

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldnt say ryan neff is a good fill in. He cant actually sing and butchers live

@thehurtfam

2 жыл бұрын

@@fupaking7717 haven’t seen them live in so long. Couldn’t even tell you …

ALLS I'm saying is, can we just get more Austrian Death Machine

Please get back together guys

Funny reading some comments from dudes who never made money with music. Lambesis clearly owns the band, he has the right to keep doing it. And as he stated, the remaining guitar player seems to be one of the main songwriters. Hippa might be very popular, Josh aswell, but they are 100% replaceable. Where’s wolvenwar? 😂😂

@dougleydorite

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know who did and did not make money with music?

@somewhatsomething4882

2 жыл бұрын

It would seem he probably doesn't own the band because he NEEDS them to participate at least on a "business" level (as stated in his press statement) in regard to royalties and merch etc (if he owned the band outright their continued involvement would be unnecessary for him), but they can't deal with him so they have walked away from it all and got lawyers to do the business of the band.

@dougleydorite

2 жыл бұрын

@@somewhatsomething4882 probably right. After all, Jordan did say he expects a pay out

@tiagoshade

2 жыл бұрын

@@somewhatsomething4882 😂😂😂 He would not be able to do a lot of things he is doing if the guys were sooo much in the business like you are saying. If josh want a pay out, he will have to sue for that. Same shit with Fear Factory and Dino Cazares. Dude invested so much in the band that the other guys including burton had no power. Burton lost all his money fighting for money that didn’t belong to him. I’ll tell you, Josh won’t sue because he won’t make money, so that’s what they do, they try to create those situations so they can get a payout. Simple as that. Tim Lambesis have so much ownership that he didn’t not allowed the band to keep going with another singer. And they didn’t do anything without him and formed a new band. The new band didn’t work, specially because of the lack of investment. Tim make a lot of money and before going to jail he had several business going on. You guys think this bands go on tour or studio paid by the label? When they do so, they become slaves of their label. In case of AILD Tim lambesis invested so they didn’t have to get a loan with the bank or label. Doing so you gain power into the business and at some point you end up taking it over. Specially if you do the songwriting.

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Of course Tim makes it sound like he and Phil write everything when he and Phil are all that’s left. Tim’s an egoistical douche. I hope Phil leaves and Tim’s career dies while the rest move on to success.

It's sad to see Jordan seems to have so much Anger and Apathy towards the band :(

Plz AILD don't do this as my only favorite metalcore band out there..

As I Lay Dying is basically a cover band by this point

Just call it a day for As I Lay Dying and start a new band moving forward 🤷🏻‍♂️

Tim playing a show called Inkcarceration is unironically funny

1224 views pretty much sums it up........

@dougleydorite

2 жыл бұрын

Huh? You posted this minutes after this video aired. What did you expect 😂

Damn…. This sucks.. I wish them ALL the best regardless

As much as I’ve enjoyed AILD..maybe it’s time for Tim just to let go of the name. It’s not like he can’t move forward without the name

@LRM5195

2 жыл бұрын

He owns the name. Why wouldn’t he?

Hoping for a Wovenwar reunion

No big loss if they never play again...

Good luck having the guy from MMI play 94 Hours... It's pretty clear Tim is in denial and is avoiding blame. To have 3 members walk out isn't a coincidence. In all fairness though, probably shouldn't of trusted a guy who hired a hit man to kill his wife 🤷‍♂️

@Bigbilly-ms9bn

2 жыл бұрын

Bro 94 hours is not that hard to play.

Ironically they would have probably been better getting a new vocalist the day lambesis done what he done

I knew the clean vocalist sounded different .. the new guy is good tho

Can't sit here and pretend i don't like Unearth a lot, so honestly I think this could be interesting.

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

I was slightly comforted by it being Nick Pierce filling in for Jordan before I last saw them but was horribly disappointed at the show. Knowing this songs so well as Jordan plays them, I could hear everything that was off. Wrong fills, wrong accents and just touches the kit in a completely different way. No knock on Nick he’s phenomenal but he’s not Jordan and doesn’t sound like Jordan. I won’t be going to another live AILD show without Jordan.

I think the only lineup change should be a change in frontman

Maybe Tim and Phil should just start a new project and let AILD go…they’ve been my favorite metal core band since 2002 and maybe let the cash cow go and be creative in a new band…I always felt the band was Tim and Jordan’s..guess it’s now Tim’s…

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s not AILD without Jordan.

Tim still kills when they play live

It's a shame As I Lay Daying has come up to this. Was so eager when i heard My Own Grave... thought it would be one of the greatest metalcore bands coming back...

How about this. Tim Libesas tried to kill his wife

I don’t really think there is any remaining members 🤷🏻‍♂️. When you have a group of people who can’t even stand to be in the same room ( which has definitely happened with other bands) are they actually still a band or just a money making machine . Sad times for sure

they're quitting because Tim's a sociopath

Is it even As I Lay Dying at this point?

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Nope, not without Jordan it isn’t.

Who’s gonna run Brick BY Brick?

@ryanbobadilla2527

2 жыл бұрын

Nick is still running Brick By Brick I believe.

Should have parted ways with Tim

So Lambesis & Sggrosso are all who remain, I'll be giving them a miss now

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Phil should bail too and work on his side project that looks to have potential.

Who would want to be in a band with a psychopath who tried to kill his wife anyway? I mean geez it should be known this isn’t a guy who can be trusted in a band

@somewhatsomething4882

2 жыл бұрын

Or with a partner.

Tims probably just as toxic as before he was locked up, once josh left I lost interest. I preferred his clean vocals to tims harsh vocals.

@somewhatsomething4882

2 жыл бұрын

Probably more toxic. Most people come out of jail worse than they went in.

Good for AILD!! 👏👏 if members are not wanting to move forward for whatever reason, it’s time to find replacements and keep moving. Let them eat dust.

Should I be taking this man at his word?!?

I love AILD but who rly knows who is telling the truth.

Jordan could have stopped waisting time and sed if Tim is in when he gets out then I'm out

I wish Wovenwar would make a new album....

@LRM5195

2 жыл бұрын

Why? That band was so damn boring 😴

@PapiSensei331

2 жыл бұрын

@@LRM5195 Fact is that Wovenwars debut album is a Masterpiece. Consistency would have made them huge!

@LRM5195

2 жыл бұрын

@@PapiSensei331 I couldn’t have been more bored with that first album. The second one had some tolerable songs but my god the vocalist is so generic sounding.

@ronson3161

Жыл бұрын

I wish Wovenwar would get a proper metal vocalist. Shane sucks ass. Drags down what little energy there was in the music.