This quality of this stick is very good, use to owned one around 20 years ago, and it is not expensive at all, unlike the stick nowadays asking crazy price.

Playing 10 mins with the Dreamcast pad should make this feel heaven-sent.

@kalelezequiel140

3 жыл бұрын

@Muhammad Ivan yup, have been watching on KaldroStream for since november myself :D

Man this brings back memories, my cousin used to have the PS2 version along with KOF 2002, maybe that's why every Mexican kid knows about SNK

@lirfrank

4 жыл бұрын

At least where I live (North of México) SNK machines are suuper common. If there's one Arcade machine at a cinema or shopping center, it's SNK, specially KoF.

@RustinWolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@lirfrank I live in the north too and yep, there are three cinemas near my house, all of them have a KOF 2002 or Metal Slug X machine, some have the good sticks and others have the horrible ones but it's all good

@ramburgervalentine7621

4 жыл бұрын

The pirate copies and bootgle of snk machines are still super common.

@juandavila4575

4 жыл бұрын

Tambien rifa el mvc

@gabrielcamiloanunciatodeol2566

4 жыл бұрын

Exact same thing here in Brazil lol.

This stick truly brought the arcade home for me. I'm lucky that my city had a decent arcade presence (thanks in part to many Hong Kong businesses). I first laid eyes on this stick when my friend bought it to play SF3 Double Impact. 2 years later I ordered 2 of these from eBay. Then MAS sticks were the all the rage for MVC2, which I purchased 2. Then I sold these Agetech sticks back on ebay for $100 a piece as I started to feel the difference between "pro" buttons/sticks. Today I'm using Mad Catz fight sticks with MC Cthulhu installed with an RJ-45 along with Brooks brand converters (PS4, Neo Geo AES, Switch, etc.). I'll never forget that these Agetec sticks showed that it was possible to have quality arcade experience at home.

Agetec was the American brand of ASCII Corporation, which used to make the ASCIIWARE line of controllers for several consoles in the 90s.

The very first fighting game that got me into fighting games.

Mate . Love the channel ! I have been living in japan for the last 22 years ! Good to see some new gaijin blood on the game scene ! Keep the good work and bring some more old school fighting games to the channel !

Cool video :) I love my dreamcast arcade stick. On a side note, Dreamcast released the VMU 6 months prior to Sony's pocketstation.

Never knew you taught english, though it makes sense. Nice vid!

Bought 4 Green Goblins back in the days when Sega stopped making Consoles for 30Eur each. For 4Player Matches Virtua Tennis it was ok, but the Sticks were loose and the buttons wont come back up sometimes since "new" specially when you not hitting the exact middle of the button.Then i put them in Storage for a very long time. Now 20 years later i saw your Fightstick Videos and modded 2 of them with Sanwa JLF and Sanwa Buttons. For the other two i have Seimitsu Parts on order so ican compare which i like best. Thank you for the cool content:-)

@JS_2099

3 жыл бұрын

I think Virtua Tennis used the analog stick to determine aiming of your shots, but 4 player Power Stone 2 would be perfect with the Arcade Sticks. That’s the main game that comes to mind that would benefit from 4 Arcade Sticks.

You probably just doubled the price of all the dc sticks left on eBay. I want one know lol.

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

I just padhack 3rd party or plain use adapters :p

@tyisafk

4 жыл бұрын

@@averageradiantreplays7702 I HIGHLY recommend the Brook Wingman SD. Probably the coolest adapter I've ever used because it makes PS3/PS4/360/XOne sticks and controllers work on the Dreamcast and Saturn! The adapter even has built-in VMU (Without the screen of course, but you can save stuff) It works great on my PS4 Hori Fighting Edge, but I plan to replace it's PCB with the Brook Universal but I assume it'll work on it as well for obvious reasons lol ALTHOUGH for novelty reasons, I wouldn't mind getting an OEM Dreamcast fight stick.

@gamvik352

3 жыл бұрын

@@tyisafk Yup, that’s the one’s I got. but a friend don’t got no sticks from ps3/4 and wants a Dreamcast badly for fighting games, he might go this route and have me modify the Dreamcast stick with sanwa or solder a cheap controller.

If you’re looking for anymore fighting games for DC Garou Mark of the Wolves Marvel vs Capcom 1&2 JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure Guilty Gear X SF3 3rd Strike Capcom vs SNK Pro Vampire Chronicle Virtua Fighter 3 Dead or Alive 2 Power Stone Tech Romancer The Last Blade 2 Project Justice Alpha 3 even though you didn’t want to play it lo I don’t think they’d be too expensive in japan. Its more expensive getting some of the US Releases.

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

Some of this like Garou, Last Blade 2 or 3S have much better and newer ports you can purchase digitally, honestly. As for the rest like Vampire Chronicle, VF or CvS, then... yeah, DC is the way to go.

@ArcLi7e

4 жыл бұрын

Fighting Vipers 2

I never noticed Dudley and his butler were in the background for the London stage till now.

I had this exact stick and used it so so much for so many years. I had to throw it away a few years ago because the stick had started to rust on the bottom pretty badly. But I loved this stick so much and now I wish I had another one. So many hours of playing Soul Calibur on this stick.

So, just FYI, Agetec was an American spin-off of the Japanese ASCII corporation. Similar to the original ASCII US operations, they were a neat little company that specialized in bringing lesser known titles (and probably the first to bring budget console games) to the US market mainly during the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Additionally, they release several special controllers. Considering ASCII largely kickstarted arcade-quality controllers at home in Japan with the ASCII Stick for Famicom & MSX/X68000 (with miniature Seimitsu parts!), it makes sense that Agetec continued the tradition into the DC era, though their OEM parts were no longer from the higher quality arcade brands.

I had Ben from ifixretro mod my Green Goblin with orange Sanwa parts. Super nice!

Man, that stick looks so good, nice! 👍

I bought this arcade stick when mvc1 came out on the dreamcast. The only arcade stick I've owned in my gaming life.

Do a video on a refurbishing/upgrading of the Dreamcast joy stick???

Nothing like the Sega Saturn virtua stick model 2. In 2020 mine works and feels like a dream. You can even connect it to an adapter and play on PC.

When you think about it "Video Game" is a delightfully retro name. Who has a video player these days?

Wow new stick again haha Nice review love ur review

The Dreamcast Agetec Joystick is probably among my favourite sticks. (Maybe my favourite stick of all , but I haven't used it in over a decade , so I can't be sure) It has things that I can't really find on most modern sticks. 1 - There is a alot of horizontal space in between the stick and the buttons. Most modern fight sticks have the lever and buttons very close to eachother and huge gaps of unused space on either side, for no real purpose. (I don't really rest my hands there , I rest them on lower part of the stick , which leads me to my next point ) Use that unused space and make the gap between stick and buttons a little wider , to release that shoulder tension a little) 2. Alot of vertical space to rest your right palm on. Some modern fight sticks give you not enough space , just enough sapce or slightly more than enough space for your lower palms to rest on . The dreamcast stick gives your more than enough space to rest your lower palms on !!!! The dreamcast layout moves the buttons all the way to the top of the stick , because it knows it's important to give your lower right palm alot of space to rest on. Modern fight sticks want to keep everything centered for some reason. The Dreamcast doesn't care , it knows there is nothing of importance above the lever and buttons. So it just pushes the layout almost all the way up. Yeah I know nowadays modern consoles have more buttons and we gotta put them somewhere. 3. Six button layout is preferably to me. (I'm pretty sure most true arcade players prefer this too , but have just accepted that most modern fight sticks made for home consoles seem to be 8 button standard) Most modern retail fight sticks will have 8 face buttons , but almost no fighting games have use for the 7th and 8th button. To me the 7th and 8th buttons are just a waste of space , even deteriment to gameplay , if you accidently press then. They're not even present on arcade machines themselves , they're only there because home consoles controllers have more buttons. If you're a stick player , you really should be pressing button combinations for stuff like supers/throws , because that's one of the main advantages of a stick. It's now much easier to do so , because the layout makes more sense , since that's the way it should be played. Doing those kind of moves with finger combinations feel more natural on stick. Since you're not using the pad , there's no need for macro buttons. (Plus your hand probably isn't wide enough to accomodate the 7th/8th button comfortably) It also contributes more to the not enough spacing between the stick and buttons issue again. But yeah , if any fight stick manufacturer made a fight stick based on the Dreamcast layout more , that would automatically become my new favourite modern stick for the reasons I gave above. Sega really need to get on this , make a deal with either Hori, Qanba or Razor. The Saturn stick layout was similar idealogy too , but not as well made.

@namesurname8734

10 ай бұрын

Totally agreed, nice description ! Spacing and palmrest of this enclosure is a godsend. Weak point: the stick, a cheap sanwa (the long throw maybe good only for VF) clone. The 8 button layout of newer enclosures can be useful for KOF (1,2,3,4 in straight line) some rare japanese cabinet have 7 button layout and the 7th button is an auxiliary 4th button.

Hmm, if you happen to have one of those laptop lap desks it could probably work since they have a built-in beanbag on the bottom to mould itself to the shape of your legs for stability. And then those 4 padded feet on the stick will have a flat surface to grip on to. It'll probably be good for most small form factor sticks.

I bought this stick along with my Dreamcast, day one! Awesomeness! Soul Calibur was my game. Crazy Taxi and Power Stone were the others.

@Tomatonator

3 жыл бұрын

Power Stone is pretty damn rare now, if you still have it floating around

@MetaSynForYourSoul

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tomatonator I wish! Idiot mean sold it for PS2! I still cry in my sleep!

@Tomatonator

3 жыл бұрын

@@MetaSynForYourSoul oh damn, brutal 😖

@Nihongogamer my friend it's "Northeastvideogamer" from Twitch. I have this for my Dreamcast. Here's some cool info for you. Agetec was a division of Ascii Corp. who also made the Super Famicom/ SNES "Super Advantage" under their "Asciiware" brand name. This Sega licensed arcade stick was an excellent stick for that time and still is to me. I enjoy it very much. I always oppose to using adaptors for other sticks from PS2 or PS3 because of the loss of VMU functionality. Great video. Thank you for making this. See you on Twitch soon. Take care.

@NihongoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Wait, so actually the two arcade sticks I had as a kid were both made by the same company?! Lol I had idea! Thanks for the info Northeast

Nice video... You can upgrade this stick with Sanwa parts, although from my experience it requires a lot of "dremel" work and patience to achieve a decent result. Especially if want to replace both the buttons and the stick.

@namillerable

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah from what I've heard this stick is kinda hard to mod with sanwa parts.

Dreamcast Rocks!

I've literally just bought one of these for my Dreamcast in the UK can't wait to use it with these great arcade ports on the system Also if you're wanting to stream some of the Dreamcast fighting games on the system I'd suggest the gekko VGA to HDMI convertor box they're $55 blows the pound cable away.. way better image quality and less lag :) they're shipped from Turkey so not sure what the shipping would be to Japan If you have the money and are really passionate about the system I would highly recommend the DC HDMI modification which adds no lag besides your TV and allows you to output your Dreamcast At 960p or if your TV doesn't support that resolution It can also output 1080p But the aspect ratio will be a little squished But nothing too major it also supports to the few games that output 240p it scales them to 480p and again look great Sorry for the essay But great content as always :D

Lol I was just looking at that stick a couple days ago, looking at old PS1/PS2 generation fight sticks

I own all these since the release of Dreamcast (day 1)! 😎

For me, it's the commercial fightsticks they made these days and the Brook Wingman SD. I might be getting the Agtec, and mod it with Seimitsu LS-56 and Seimitsu buttons (along with the replacement plexiglass from Focus Attack), but I'll use it mostly for arcade ports on Dreamcast and not just fighting games.

@HollowRick

2 жыл бұрын

It's great for the shoot em ups on the system too :) and games such as Cannon spike

This has the best combos

When you started testing the buttons and saying light punch and medium punch I almost through you were going to teach us an infinite

I've been debating whether or not to get a Dreamcast (since getting stuff like a working VMU and an HDMI upscaler will drive up the cost), but now I'm slightly more inclined to get one.

The pund cable is very cool to lay old console in HDTV

I would love to see you try and mod this stick, trying to swap parts out would be really funny, maybe get it working with sfv :D

Back in the day this was one of the best official arcade sticks that you could buy, but these days I play this game with a Brook converter. I use a Brook converter on Dreamcast and PS2 as well as Genesis / PC Engine, and can reuse my PS4 sticks anywhere. I agree that Qanba Drone is a better option. I have used it with this game on both DC and PS2. With a Brook adapter, you can often save and load from slots 2-4, but for those games that can't the Brook Dreamcast converter does have a little bit of built in memory. Prices for this stick in the USA are like 2-3x what they are in Japan. It's not a good option at all. This is one of my favorite old school fighters. I love SNK and 2D Capcom fighters.

I still play with my Dreamcast all the time, of course i already modded mines with a HDMI port(best thing i ever did ). The Dreamcast pad is a bit expensive here in the US, i personally use a "Brook Converter" works like a charm (͠≖ ͜ʖ͠≖)👌.

8:00 ALL OVER THE BOTTOM

I have some DC arcade sticks, but I prefer using my Saturn arcade controllers. I use my Saturn converters for DC and poof. I can also use my virtua stick pro

I wanna see you use the official Sega Genesis 6 button stick, that one is funny and has a heavy metal plate.

Hello Nihongo! You fellow Mexican follower here wanting to help lol. The green goblin is a good stick, but if you want a better stick to use, there is actually adapters for the DC, A LOT of them! You can use the Brook Adapter and use even the Victrix! The cable you have is actually ok for a quick solution, honestly, I wouldn't buy another VGA solution unleast you are going to use a legit CRT VGA Monitor, the better solution for HDMI is called DCHDMI and is... really for DC enthusiasts or for event use, to be honest. Lastly, DC doesn't have copy-protect as of now, so, if you want to try a game without wasting THAT much money first, you can burn a .cdi ISO and try the game, or maybe try the Homebrew tools!. Lastly, get Psychic Force 2012, one of the cheaper Fighting ones and actually, one of my favorites haha.

learn n groove roll cancelling next...its super fun!!!!!

I have four of these things, all Sanwa-modded.

They are nice sticks since they somewhat look like the Dreamcast however i can also vouch for the fact that the buttons​ and stick are not the best.. definitely better sticks out there..

If you don't mind spending a bit, you should just build a retro brook stick which has cables for most major retro consoles.

Hmmm... this makes me think getting an Arcade Stick with a green panel would be pretty cool for streaming. You could overlay the controller cam and it would only show your hands, the stick and the buttons. so it would leave more of the game on screen. Hell you could even overlay it on top of the facecam for a very compact display.

Are their any split arcade stick out their like a switch joy con one side would be the stick one side Would be the buttons. It would be like the perfect traveling kit

I used to have one of these back in the day & in hindsight, it did feel very loose & I had issues pulling off moves. I thought it was just me which resulted in it hardly being used, I ended up selling it to a mate. Besides modding with better parts, I think nowadays, you'd be better off using an Xbox/PS4 Hori stick with a Brook Wingman converter.

Hello Nihongo. I really enjoy your videos. I'd like to use a stick, but whenever I try one I feel confused. Could you please teach how to properly use a stick for fighting and arcade games? Thank you

Hey I love your content, and especially you've gotten me interested in fighting games lately. I have a little experience with mortal kombat, skullgirls, and sf3. Just picked up GranBlue Fantasy Vs. Any advice?

@NihongoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

No specific advice. If ur playing gbvs online then def also give it a shot offline at an event when the virus situation is over because the game is great fun offline :)

@billybobs1705

2 жыл бұрын

@@NihongoGamer it's not designed to be played on your fking knee thats why

I loved these sticks, but Brooks made them obsolete with the PS3/4 to Dreamcast super converter

You can also get brook dreamcast to ps3/ps4 converter what i use for my DC

Did you just grab this thing on eBay? I'm gonna pull the trigger now. That thing looks fresh 😭

Now I'm wondering if you'll go down the rabbit hole of upscalers and cables and splitting the signal with one output going to a CRT and HDMI going to your capture card after you mod the stick......?

Next thing im getting is a fightstick for my ps4

By the way I plan to mod it. I have owned it since about 2006 or so. It is ripe for some Sanwa love lol.

@roasty80

4 жыл бұрын

Good choice. Jlf sticks are lovely

20 years ago!!!

The linear ALPS switch buttons really weren't that bad but that wobbly joystick was borderline defective. I wonder if substituting a JLF or LS-33 spring would help?

Everyone calls this stick, the GREEN GOBLIN STICK

I remember that stick felt a bit cheap.

The only game that matters! Everyone I know is literally bringing this game up. Even my cousins I haven't spoken with in over 2 years. today even brought it up... I wish that was a joke.

How would you compare this unit to the Neo Geo (or Neo Geo X, same exact) arcade stick?

MayFlash F500 Elite review plzzzzzzzzz and thank you 🙏🏾

3:41 *Goblin Slayer would like to know your location*

Maybe Sega could re release this 👀👀

can i connect this to my pc ? like to the redream emulator

Nice video!

@OmoneMiyo

4 жыл бұрын

k

Can’t complain to a 20 year old joystick. Come on!

Will this work on a US Dreamcast? Most of the eBay listings say that a Japanese Dreamcast is required for it to work.

@HollowRick

2 жыл бұрын

It's not region locked so yes a Japanese Dreamcast stick will work on US system

VMU: 1998 PocketStation: 1999

Why is getting Capcom Vs. SNK 2's ROM so hard?

I was actually gonna ask how the hdmi link was but as soon as you said it was a bit laggy I was like gaaahhhhh

@NihongoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not that noticeable actually. But the tests I’ve seen in videos seems to confirm the lag is there. The “ps2 to hdmi” adapter is straight component signal digitising so it might be lag-free (tho haven’t seen conclusive tests yet). The CVS2 pro players seem to happy with it

Go play that game on crt ...

AaLl oVEr ThE BOtToM

"Qanba drone feels nicer than this" DAMN

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

@@The_Nameless Square gate master race

Is this working with pal version too?

@HollowRick

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but there's a pal version anyway just has different logo

mod video maybe ?

Goodgrief I paused to say you're the first person I've heard that genuinely accused SEGA of ripping off Sony for the VMU. I forgive you, especially for the correction but if I were 10, you'd be in serious trouble right now. Anyway back to watching.

Just bought mine for 50€

Why not just use the redream emulator?

英語の勉強にもええなぁ〜

The Pound cable is a starter, but kinda trash. In the long run you should get a VGA box for your dreamcast.

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

VGA Boxes aren't worth unleast using a CRT VGA Monitor. Pound is good for non-heavy duty, I will rather pay for more controller accesories and such rather than a VGA Box.

@HollowRick

2 жыл бұрын

@@averageradiantreplays7702 VGA to HDMI convertor boxes are superior to the pound cable and not that much more expensive a Gekko VGA to HDMI box is $55 and offers a ridiculously better image quality than the trash pound cables

You managed to get through this video without that stick falling apart??? I think I've gone through at least 4 of those arcade sticks. Those things were so poorly built it was shameful.,

Lol I like it a lot

Ditch that pound cable! The absolute worst thing you can get for the DC =/

You look really young to say you bought a dreamcast arcade stick back in the day. Outside of that save yourself tge headache and get a brook converter and use your ps4 stuff.

You need to grease the stick

@NihongoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ve ordered it already. Just waiting for it to arrive :)

@G-MoneyCMB

4 жыл бұрын

NihongoGamer Hey, could you do a vid on a restoration for this stick (greasing, and maybe swapping out buttons etc?) I bought one a year or so from eBay and the stick is really stiff lol!

My honest opinion... i own two of these and i prefer using the normal control for fighting games than the stick... the stick gets annoying

The stick is like 20 years old, of course it doesn't feel amazing. As for the holes, 28mm sounds good to me. Looks just big enough for IL short-stem buttons. Also, why not have your stick on a table? I hate using sticks on my lap.

now mod your old one :)

I still say the GameCube version runs better

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

The GCN version is inferior for competitive play, mind you

@the757general2

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't and the GameCube port removed roll cancelling and made "wrong" balance changes

Sega needs to make a Dreamcast 2. I am so bored with Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. I grew up on Sega.

@averageradiantreplays7702

4 жыл бұрын

We don't need more consoles with such unstable market as it is now.

@Asianese

4 жыл бұрын

I can guarantee you it'll flop

@vladventura1928

4 жыл бұрын

You know what we need? Jet set radio future 2. That's all I want from sega, cause pso2 is already a thing and crazy taxi will always be perfect how it is

Dudes complaining about the quality of an arcade stick.... while playing a game with a crappy $30 “upscaler” 😬

first

@emantekkerz1677

4 жыл бұрын

Khonovation k.

@veebridges7601

4 жыл бұрын

Get outta here, this first meme has ran its course

@OmoneMiyo

4 жыл бұрын

UwU Caitlyn you have UwU in your name.

@veebridges7601

4 жыл бұрын

@@OmoneMiyo yeah and?

By modern standards these Dreamcast sticks are junk. For other DC arcade games the stick is passable but for fighters the switches and buttons are terrible. Love that NAOMI aesthetic though.

@HollowRick

2 жыл бұрын

Just swap out the stick and buttons for sanwa parts and you're good to go

@dariusq8894

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollowRick Despite looks it is not a straight swap and a lot more work than you'd think. Based on KZread videos I'd rather find another solution than potentially wreck a collector's item.