Artist Couple Needs Financial Advice - Til Debt Do Us Part - Tuned Out
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Musicians Valerey and Alex make more than just music together - they’ve also orchestrated a financial disaster. Unemployed, Valerey recently declared bankruptcy but she’s going back to school leaving Alex with all the bills. At 40-something, they're too close to retirement to have zero savings and no assets. Gail's plan depends on them tuning into their financial situation and making more money, but that's a tune that Valerey might not be willing to play. .
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They say they like their home to express who they are , they like to go out to eat because they don’t like to cook .. etc. I like those things. But I can’t afford every one of my likes. I like a roof over my head the most 🤷🏻♀️
@colleenduffy1139
Жыл бұрын
This!
@the.blue.raven7777
10 ай бұрын
Well said 🎉🎉🎉
“It doesn’t matter if the paycheck comes or not, as long as we do the art.” 🤯
Somehow they both strike me as people that NEED to do a psychedelic, and NEVER should take psychedelics lol. Being an “artist” isn’t an excuse for being 40 and going nowhere
Why the heck isn’t the woman working they don’t even have kids. She had no reason to not be a working woman.
@americandevo
2 жыл бұрын
Amen sister! Even with 2 kids I helped supplement our income by cleaning houses! She can clean a house, earn money and sing her heart out while doing it
@susanmcconnell6536
Жыл бұрын
She's lazy as heck.
Well, that was painful to watch. I wish there was a follow-up to know if they were ever “discovered.” I don’t understand why a 40 year old woman with no children was unable to attend schooling/training AND work. At least part-time. Their dreams will be nightmares in 30 years if they don’t plan for their life as they age.
@MrsEJV
2 жыл бұрын
She can’t work. Who would take care of the dolls? She (and the dolls) are visiting from a different planet - where EVERYTHING is free, free, free.
@MoreMedication
Жыл бұрын
Have you heard of them? So I’m guessing they weren’t. Not that I hoped bad things would happen to them, as they seem kind-hearted, but they just aren’t living in the real world. And I don’t think they learned a thing during their episode. I do wish them the best, and now that there are so many music sites available perhaps they are making a living through one of them.
@Jane5720
Жыл бұрын
She’s spoiled and lazy
@janelleg597
Жыл бұрын
@@MoreMedication "The paycheck may or may not come, but the important thing is we create the art." yep, they're in Lala Land
@bluewinter1969
Жыл бұрын
SŹZŹAaà
19:14 Gail: “Are you waiting for him to break?” Wife: “No” while she nods her head ‘yes.’
Gail wasted her time and money on this couple. He seems like a nice guy, but she has totally got him under her thumb. She's delusional. It doesn't mean they're not nice people and have big dreams, but they aren't living in reality. You have to work hard to achieve your dream. You can't just sit on your butt and wait for someone to knock on your door and hand you the money. I'm sure they'd be fun to have as friends, but I wouldn't want to be financially responsible for either one of them. Sorry to be harsh, but I am older and retired now and keeping up the struggle to maintain on my retirement. Boy do I wish I had a chance with Gail a bunch of years ago even though I live in the United states. I would be so much better off. I'm rewatching all of her videos, and trying to implement every piece I can pick out of it that I might be able to do. I Can Feel The Strain starting to go away already. I recommend everybody in a similar situation, do the same. Take charge, thanks to Gail, and go forward. Blessings to everyone.
@SignedOff402
Жыл бұрын
They probably turn into a sub/dom S&M act in the bedroom.
@KS0102
Жыл бұрын
You have to be careful though. You can work your ass off for the wrong people and get taken advantage of and go nowhere. You have to be SMART and LUCKY.
That guy needs to run away from her. She’s totally delusional
Anytime anyone spends $2500 in cash, they know exactly where it's going; they'd just rather not say lol
@caterinaramirez8864
Жыл бұрын
They thought they spent way more on eating out a month, and didn’t connect the dots that a lot of that cash in presumably going to restaurants 🤦♀️
They shouldn’t count on staying in the rental when they retire. The rent could go way up. The owners might decide they want to live in the house themselves.
@710LENNY
2 жыл бұрын
This show was aired around 10 or more years ago. The rent has gone WAY up since then, or else the property has fallen apart from neglect. If they didn't learn from Gail, they will have learnt from circumstances.
@christinebutler7630
Жыл бұрын
They could wind up living in a van by the river in retirement at the rate they're going.
@caterinaramirez8864
Жыл бұрын
She mentioned that they will wind up in a home eating crackers if they don’t save for retirement…. Totally clueless that retirement homes are EXPENSIVE and the government wouldn’t ever cover it unless you are like completely lost the ability to care for yourself and even then there’s a wait list. They are just counting on someone else to care for them and taking zero responsibility for themselves! They will be lucky to have that van to live in honesty
Poor Valerie has champagne taste on a koolaid budget. 🤣
@amandab8433
Жыл бұрын
Not even Koolaid. More like the store brand you find at the Dollar Store
@JackWorkz
Жыл бұрын
Flavor-Aid.. lol
@lightworlddouglas4601
Жыл бұрын
Lightworld. I hope they were “discovered” otherwise they Valerie has “princess attitude” but is Cinderella. She has No Outside the BOX attitude.
@AndyinMTL
Жыл бұрын
Facts lol
@zy510
Жыл бұрын
On a tap water budget 😂
Valerey was easy to find online bc her name is spelled different. She is now a life coach/art therapist for indigenous people in Ontario.
@locgoblin3079
Жыл бұрын
White liberals telling brown people what to think 😂😂😂 I'm not surprised
@LS-xq5nf
6 ай бұрын
Oh boy.
@MoreMedication
9 күн бұрын
Last week I was reading an article in the NYT on life coaching. It almost sounds like a MLM scheme. You take the expensive courses, and then try to rope in newbies to learn from your expensive courses. Yes, some people do actually earn a living if they can build up a steady clientele, but most never reach that level. Also, what makes her especially appealing to indigenous people. Does she have some in her ancestry? Has she had previous experience working closely with them in their communities? Or does she just think that dream-catchers are really pretty and lots of fun to make?
Delusional. Truly. It's amazing how these people survive for this long. Ultimate champaine taste and beer budget
@shellymay-cutpastememories6667
2 жыл бұрын
More like a ‘tap water’ budget ;)
@ronashah872
2 жыл бұрын
@@shellymay-cutpastememories6667 hahah exactly!
I am an artist and a musician. But I also have two kids, so I have to put them first. I work full time outside of my preferred field. Grow up, have lovely hobbies that make a little money and don't rely on other people to take care of you.
She is lazy and using him. Hope he dumps her and establishes no contact. Let her take care of herself.
I am a recording artist for over 20 years, and I find many musicians in the same predicament. Being a musician is not the only creative job you can do while working on your music. It takes humility to acknowledge your financial deficiency. There is nothing like accepting where you are in life and making adjustments. Change is inevitable and it is the only thing we can be sure of. I enjoy Gail and her suggestions and how she helps see their financial reality. This couple should be grateful for the lesson and the 3K they received instead of being disappointed that they did not receive the 5K. Show less
Most musicians don't get "discovered" -- they work to build their careers. If she taught music on the side and brought in some money, he would have enough time to look for side gigs playing at lounges, weddings etc.
@colleenduffy1139
Жыл бұрын
This! He's like cinderella waiting for her prince.
@MoreMedication
Жыл бұрын
@Nanette: Exactly. I went to elementary school with Larry Gowan. (He was a year older/would not remember me ;-) After finishing his secondary education he went on to tour alone as Gowan, and later with a Toronto bar band called Rheingold. In ‘99 he was invited to join Styx, where he remains today. He has had great success, but he worked hard for every bit of it. He knew what he wanted from a very young age and devoted his life to working towards that dream.
@MoreMedication
Жыл бұрын
@Colleen: Without a doubt. And she is hoping that when the prince shows up he’ll have a twin in tow for her. They don’t need someone to save them, they should be doing the work themselves. As a recently retired couple I am so glad we listened when people advised us to buy RRSP’s 40 years ago. When they retire they are going to be shocked to their very core.
@rawilliams5881
Жыл бұрын
Before my hearing went I made part of my living as a professional musician. Most of my income came from teaching music and playing weddings. Not from jazzing or recording although I did those things too. And yes, I kept a full-time day job.
@rawilliams5881
Жыл бұрын
I've seen him play live. He totally rescued Styx.
"If Gail wants her to find a job, I don't know how that will go over." I mean, really? Doesn't she know how many artists/musicians/actors wait tables and drive cabs waiting for their big chance? They also probably had a tab at the bar they were singing at. I wonder how bankruptcy went over for what amounts to their primary food provider. I hope their landlord saw the program and has the forms filled out for every month they miss rent.
I like to decorate my house with antiques and different Decour but I hit garage sales and have a $10 a week budget.
What the hell were these people thinking?!?
That scream at 21:02 had me 💀 Yeah, screamy voice, me too, me too🤣
They should be closing in on retirement at this point in time. I would love an update.
Wow, I really hoped that guy realized how uneven that relationship is and did something about it. Like leave her high and dry with her weird drum/music healing.
Expressive. Art. Therapy.
@MoreMedication
10 күн бұрын
I’ll have you know it is very well-researched field of study. Just ask any parent who has given their pre-schoolers permanent markers 😂
@spf_500
10 күн бұрын
@@MoreMedication 😂 😂 😂
Right away this "Expressive Arts Therapy", paid by card, seems some kind of private "course" with a very dubiously recognized "certification" . The only people who make a living off those careers are the ones selling the training.
The way she didn't break her creepy eye contact with that guy when making her noises. 👀 She is absolutely delusional. I wish Gail had told her that she's not talented. Someone needed to.
Yikes! Living in fantasy land. Note to self: don't be like these people. And she's a liability - way over-confident, deluded and doesn't sound good singing or present well at all.
Out of touch with financial reality???? Hell, she is out of touch with just reality!
40 year old jazz musicians waiting to be discovered? Even if they were.... how many rich jazz musicians in Canada do you know? The delusion is so strong.
This lady looks like she could be the guy's mother and she needs to grow up
Ok, if you have to go to a restaurant to feel 'nurtured,' you need to get a better support system. Besides your poor husband who's putting up with you.
Oooof This lady never grew up and still playing with dolls and drums in Lala Land.
Waiting to be discovered in your forties Both of them need to grow up
OMG, expressive art therapy at 5300! The only one getting anything out of that is the "teacher"! Yikes!!!!
I love watching these lower income couples
The scream at the end 😂😂😂
@mposey-yy8il
Жыл бұрын
Hysterical
Valerey in total denial of their situation. Thought he had got it until his final sentence. You can take a horse to water but ya can't make it drink 🤔
To be so artistic & creative...they sure limit themselves and don't think outside the box for different ways to earn money! There's plenty they can do. At the ages they are, this is painful to watch.
@bovnycccoperalover3579
5 ай бұрын
But are they artistic and creative enough to live on. It seems not.
I saw nothing wrong with that AWESOME bus!!!
“Perfectionism”? Really? Oh sweetie- you have a LONG way to go! Did Gail say she was 40? Looks way older than that to me. Can there be a career in touchy feeling don’t make any effort? I’d toss her to the curb. She truly believes she’s special. And the dolls .....heaven help us.
@cmac3602
Жыл бұрын
Oh dear Lord, those dolls.
@ruthirwin8222
Жыл бұрын
@@cmac3602 those dolls were creepy and a 40 looking like 60 making them ..my 3 year old grandson could do better
Success is 1% talent and 99% transpiration. If you want to be successfull in art you have to work double as much as people in office jobs. A voice needs to be trained on a daily base. And even then... there are a shitload of amazing singers out there who are willing to work hard and yet a tiny percentage makes it. (Usually the good-looking)
I was unable to watch the entire episode because they bugged me so much. dreamers.
She would miss the jacuzzi 😂😂😂😂😂
Princess
Wow, this woman was seriously out of touch with reality.🤦🏽♀️ Oops... after hearing the man's last comment, it seems they are both out of touch...👀 I really wonder where they are now.
Muchísimas GRACIAS POR COMPARTIR DESDE MEXICO 🇲🇽
They are still together and she works in her field. Glad they made it work
@avres13
Жыл бұрын
Field of being lazy and not growing up and getting a big girl job.
@kunya16
9 ай бұрын
Her field is fake "jobs"
@sterlling1
5 ай бұрын
But DID THEY make it work?
6:23 the camera makes a special appearance 🤣
Looks like today she’s an expressive arts therapist and certified life coach
@spiritofsalt6780
Жыл бұрын
@@_____________888 That made me lol.
@susanmcconnell6536
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure she's raking in the dough!
@kunya16
9 ай бұрын
Life coach 😂
@shirley1413
7 ай бұрын
Life coach, I’m sorry but that’s a joke, will she advise you on the best way to rack up debt By paying her life coaching fees?. And then file bankruptcy!
I know too many people like valerey. She doesn’t want to work. Ever. And she thinks she’s entitled not to. If she’s in a situation where she has nothing else to do, she goes back to education in order to avoid getting a job. No mention of what job she will get when her drum beating course is finished🙄
“Artist” Narcissist don’t have a plan. They take to feed their hole.
I would have loved the RV❤
Champagne taste with a beer budget🤷♀️
If the break hasn't come at this point in your life, you either missed it, or it's never going to come.
@lyndakelly564
Жыл бұрын
you're right. Susan Boyle was the only exception I can think of.
@zy510
Жыл бұрын
@@lyndakelly564 yep! And for many years she never thought she'd become famous. She just sang to herself at home because she loved it
This woman doesn't realize she was going to be homeless someday. I can't imagine that they've been able to avoid it.
What a horrible delusional selfish woman. But then again he is just as delusional as she is but at least he works.I would have left her a long time ago.He might he already feels resent. they should not have gotten that much money.
Neither of them had a LOT of talent, but SHE was just awful to listen to. Get a job, lady!!
@agatanakonieczny2213
Жыл бұрын
Susan, I saw your comments somewhere else. Are you aware you might be a troll/hater?
@slf5141
Жыл бұрын
They are in "la la land " .. not faciing reality.
@caterinaramirez8864
Жыл бұрын
I thought her singing was pretty awful but that maybe it was my low quality speakers. Guess not lol
@susanmcconnell6536
Жыл бұрын
@@caterinaramirez8864 It was hideous!!
@susanmcconnell6536
Жыл бұрын
@@agatanakonieczny2213 Are you aware that I don't care what you think, AGATA?
Why does he say that he needs a plan from her he should be having his own plan and yeah there’s just so many things wrong here so so many things especially from Valerie she’s like living this little dream world
You can have a certain desired standard of living, or you can be an artist. Not both.
For this lady getting a job is unrealistic. She's probably counting on inheritance. Let's hope it will come soon enough.
If they don't get their ish together, they are going to being living homeless on the streets!
I want these visual aides and books!
Get a real job sweet heart!!!
I was losing my patience with this couple
I wonder, where are they now
@lynnettemurphy8243
Жыл бұрын
Living in a van.
A creative artist music class? 5400 Dollars on credit Amazing
With the price of housing now, I bet they ended up on that buss! You can't be lazy and float by now a days and ialso think she continued to work him to death and she does nothing. He also has his own issues, putting up with her and downgrading his education. Music education is actually hard, so maybe he can't a direct job in music, but he could use his developed mind to create another opportunity. I think he's using her as an excuse not to work on his stuff, and thus not face his insecurities, and at The end of the day be able to blame her for him not getting anywhere.
My partner is a musician and photographer for pay. And has a day job. I would not have a just an artist.
A pair of flakes!
I truly think Valerie is suffering from trauma that is getting in the way of her progress
@SignedOff402
Жыл бұрын
I think all of us who fail to live up to our potential are still waiting for validation from our parents, unconditional love which our parents withheld causing us to freeze in place, like a trapped animal or a deer in headlights. Bad parenting is the bane of our society. This excludes the individuals derailed or damaged on the way to adulthood by exploitation. Laziness is rarely the reason.
@susanmcconnell6536
Жыл бұрын
I'm suffering from trauma from hearing her "sing"!
@kunya16
9 ай бұрын
When a woman does crappy things it's always trauma forced her hand. When it's a man it's always he's toxic and disgusting.
@ruthirwin8222
28 күн бұрын
I think shes on drugs
While she's on employment insurance she HAS TO be looking for work otherwise it's fraud.
8:20 😱🤣
These little scary dolls will hunt me in my sleep
This woman needs help, not classes on how to be even more dysfunctional. He needs to rein her in or get a divorce cause she's going to keep dragging him down. She's 40 going on 15.
@ruthirwin8222
28 күн бұрын
And looks 55
Couldn’t they perform at weddings or birthday parties and play covers?
Voodoo dolls?
Home furnishings are cheap at garage sales and thrift stores! Free on Craigslist! I never pay retail!!!!!!! He should get a music teaching job at a small college.
@MoreMedication
10 күн бұрын
Remember that one of their challenges was getting additional job(s) for extra money. They each tried to do so in the music field and both totally bombed the assignment. Teaching isn’t a bad idea, but I don’t think there is much demand for educators with his particular skill set. On the other hand, thrifting and Curb Alerts absolutely rule. We discovered thrifts in our early 30’s and have never looked back. (We have saved so much $$ that way.) I preach it to anyone who will listen. I am ever so grateful to people who only shop retail and consign/donate stuff they tire of.
People like this couple give artists a bad name. I have some friends who are artists and none is so ignorant and irresponsible financially.
It doesn't sound like they are going to change and I doubt that she will get a job.
They didn’t deserve the 3
Expressive art therapy?! Just sounds like a lazy excuse for doing nothing but indulging in yourself. Very similar to the likes of Auras healing and other so called Alternative mundo jumbo. I love the side stepping at end where she tries to make out she is doing good and going to work. It's just word salad!...a big bowl of emptiness.
She has completely confused needs with wants.
😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
She needs to get a job
“Expressive Arts Therapy”?? Sounds like a bunch of baloney.
Lazy
They lived in la la land... need real jobs.. more $$$
"I don't think I can meet Gale's expectation of $2100 a month." - So you're saying you can't find a job paying $13 - $15/hour? Which was close to minimum wage in Canada at the time 🤔. So she refuses to take a minimum wage job? 🙄 They're like many "artistic" posers who have no real passion. They're close minded and pretentious.
@8:47 she looks deranged
Ugh
I can't watch. She is a disaster and he is enabling.
Struggling artists 😂😂😂😂
This is a really weird couple, perfectly marched because I don’t think they have much talent, and are lazy and don’t want to work, but like nice things and eat out all the time🥲