Reminds me of something John Berger said: "“We who draw do so not only to make something visible to others, but also to accompany something invisible to its incalculable destination.”

@MCAndyT

5 жыл бұрын

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@conniescurse7325

5 жыл бұрын

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@ludicrous5765

5 жыл бұрын

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@suprafluid3661

5 жыл бұрын

"Pure" Emotion

@FirstnameLastname-es1ko

4 жыл бұрын

Perlas Negras XII slightly

"Is this rose beautiful?" "Yes" *eats the rose* "wrong" edit: why are people liking this I cant even remember the context editx2: Okay its kinda funny ngl

@comedyman4896

4 жыл бұрын

excuse you

@defaultmesh

4 жыл бұрын

wait hol up

@alishabutterfly3569

4 жыл бұрын

"wrong, its delicious'"

@ssvbas

4 жыл бұрын

*_what-_*

@johnyacooley5823

4 жыл бұрын

Wrong the rose is lunch

I like the idea behind the paintings, but when I look at the paintings, I just see lines, and I feel nothing. And not in a profound way, I mean I find them boring. I often find myself more interested in the explanation behind art than the actual art itself.

@nononononono1730

5 жыл бұрын

Did you see thos in real life or just on screen/printed? It makes a huge difference

@xNujeL

5 жыл бұрын

@@anty. they meant if they saw the original in person. Which does make a difference to seeing it on a computer screen or a replica picture.

@7skyhorse

5 жыл бұрын

that's ok! you don't have to "get" all art

@taytoyaddic7ed881

5 жыл бұрын

@Spanish Moustache that's the stupidest thing I've read here.

@Eiramzify

5 жыл бұрын

It's just hamparte

Sarah looks a little different in this one.

@lorenabpv

5 жыл бұрын

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@KevinContreras2013

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she got a new shirt

@aaronwestendorp7352

5 жыл бұрын

@@KevinContreras2013 I like it, nice style sarah

@theartassignment

5 жыл бұрын

It's been a rough fall, guys. Thanks for understanding. - Sarah

@spacefacey

5 жыл бұрын

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honestly, the description in language holds more power than the pieces themselves. I'd rather read about them. Martin seems like she could have been a writer.

@a.b.h.i.j.i.t.h

5 жыл бұрын

If she were to "describe" her idea through literature the whole concept would have been a total failure..as her work is all about the indescribable. so i think painting is apt for this.

@maggyfrog

5 жыл бұрын

@Abhi Jith that's one of the worst underestimations on literature. gee, have you ever picked up a book at all? something indescribable doesn't mean it can't be written about. what a lame argument. also, language, ALL LANGUAGES, are abstract man-made constructs. language fits perfectly with her notion of communicating the abstract. even the word "word" is indescribably abstract in concept.

@lennoxdraws

5 жыл бұрын

i think it depends on how you personally express ideas. theres literature that performs similar ideas, but some people would rather paint or perform.

@maggyfrog

5 жыл бұрын

@lennox clearly, martin chose to paint, but imho i think she would have been a far better writer.

@a.b.h.i.j.i.t.h

5 жыл бұрын

Even though words dont have meanings they have usages, her works dont. Explain to me what love is in a non symbolic non representative non interpretative way.

Even as an artist, I never appreciated modern art until I visited an art museum (The Richmond Museum of Art) for the first time maybe four years ago. There, I saw this large painting, maybe five or six feet, probably square. It was two large rectangles of color stacked on top of each other, one dark blue, one black. I enjoy standing closely to artwork, and there, three or four feet away from this large painting, I was engulfed. It was like being swaddled by an abyss, a deep ocean. Such a strange feeling... I had never felt that way before and have not felt that way sense. I hope to see the painting again one day. Edit: I think it might have been painted by Mark Rothko.

@MunthApollo

3 жыл бұрын

I found the painting! www.vmfa.museum/piction/6027262-8150732/

@virtual_farmer_881

3 жыл бұрын

I've been to many galleries as well. But are you sure that its not confirmation bias? Like, if I place Agnes Martin's, Mark Rotho's work in an empty gallery like room with similar looking paintings, will you be able to distinguish the real work?

I’d actually like to see someone paint “sexy” in abstract

@xetaxetaxeta

5 жыл бұрын

Octagon

@farofficial9

5 жыл бұрын

@@xetaxetaxeta I can see it already

@FlauscheFee

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say it would be about ratio (maybe golden ratio?) and round versus edgy shapes that just fit

@jo0odoo

5 жыл бұрын

@Jason Hodge huh?

@telexghoulie

5 жыл бұрын

Richard Hannay irregular rounded shape, fleshy colors,

I'm so happy I found this channel a while back. It provides a deeper insight with artist's life and pieces and serves as a combination art critique and mini documentary! My favorite PBS channel by far.

@croissant420

5 жыл бұрын

Same. This channel is really a good one for my curious and hungry for arts brain!

@theartassignment

5 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy you found us, too!

@spoopypoods7485

5 жыл бұрын

CydoniaOS same, but i put deep look on par with this channel.

@Kasparoscar

3 жыл бұрын

"Deeper inside" shouldn't be mistaken with "Thinking more that what there actually is".

This channel, these videos, always illuminate, always educate. I had never heard of Agnes Martin before this video. thank you.

Until I see an Agnes Martin painting in person or via a similar experience, I can't comment on her art. But I can comment on this video... Brilliant. Insightful. Enlightening. Thought-provoking. Now I know why I like Rothko so much. Thanks, "The Art Assignment," for lighting another dark area of my inexperienced appreciation of art.

“Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. ― Cesar A. Cruz

@owowotsthis11

4 жыл бұрын

Rick Drew how degenerate.

@butwhytho8713

3 жыл бұрын

just no

@mrmaniac3

3 жыл бұрын

@@butwhytho8713?

@davidcattin7006

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Longo: "I don't want to make art that will pat you on the back and tell you everything is going to be okay."

If you had seen these paintings in any other context outside of a frame in a museum would they have the same impact? Would the image impact you the same way if you saw that pattern say on a dishtowel hanging from your oven door? Forgive me but this type of art only seems important if other people deem it to be important. Otherwise, you can find these designs everywhere, and never give them a second thought.

@bananamen2316

3 жыл бұрын

Finally, a man of culture.

@grackshack

3 жыл бұрын

I think visually, a lot of sexy expensive paintings look like shit. BUT when you hear what they mean it’s fun to string together the artists background, the weird symbolism, and the visual itself. but I also just like to look at pretty things like monkey brain

@reverently

3 жыл бұрын

They’re only important because of the story behind them. They were especially made to be in that little frame hanging on the museum wall, because that’s where her message could be shared.

@knogne5073

3 жыл бұрын

I both agree and disagree, I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and emotions are in the mind of the beholder. Sometimes I look at the pattern of a dishrag and it does give off a feeling. A vibe I guess, I mean it’s kinda simple, but I think everything conveys feeling, however slight. Most of these paintings I felt nothing with, but some of them caught my attention.

@virtual_farmer_881

3 жыл бұрын

@@knogne5073 I agree. But then this smart "beholder" should be able to see beauty everywhere, in other objects too. Why do they like this particular set of parallel lines?

I can't express how much I adore this channel. It takes on the difficult parts of modern art and explains them in such clear and nuanced ways. Yeah, modern art is difficult to understand, but it's about the individual perception and context. The Art assignment never fails to capture that, and I appreciate it so so much.

r/unexpectedJohnGreen

@simeond8685

5 жыл бұрын

r/SubsYouFellFor

@tou7331

5 жыл бұрын

lmao

@rucksacks

5 жыл бұрын

The fact that this popped into my head an instant before I saw this comment makes me question my ability to have original thoughts.

@YTA51

5 жыл бұрын

r/IHaveReddit

@blakkdeaff4460

5 жыл бұрын

Manohar Muralidhar r/itriedtoclickonitasifitwasalinkbutthenirealizedthiswasntreddit

I love seeing Agnes Martin's work in person. they glimmer and are surprisingly moving.

I really enjoyed this, but why does John have a deer-in-the-headlights look the whole time? He is scared of us, dear reader

@TheMsPants

4 жыл бұрын

janicew9 if we were to hide behind his back would he still feel the same emotion?

@11kindpunk11

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheMsPants xDDDDDD'''

@degrassi420

3 жыл бұрын

blink 3 times if you need help john

@HisNeverland

3 жыл бұрын

He's thinking back to his time on tumblr

@justanotherisekaiprotagoni7293

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Can only agree with previous commenters, I wish this channel was way more popular. It's perfect for getting into art.

Great topic for a video. It can be very hard to explain to others why minimalistic art can be so beautiful, touching, impressive, emotional, etc.

I don't know about the paintings but I could feel the sincerity of the emotions you said you felt looking at martin's work at moma. Thanks for the video.

lol the painting is so much better when there is such an eloquent video essay written about it. I feel like you can do this for a lot of things that if I had just known the basic context, it would not be so moving.

I loved the artist quotes and references about agnes here!

I've seen Agnes Martin's work at SFMOMA and was incredibly moved by it for some deep and nameless reason. I'd never been remotely touched or drawn in by abstract art before, so to be called to eschew the other galleries and stand in her room, wide eyed and heart fluttery, for the majority of my visit was as confusing to me as it was wonderful. Thank you for this illuminating insight to her wondrous thoughts, spirit, and process. It's so wonderful to know that all of that seeped straight through her canvases and pulled me in.

I find your video essays on this channel very thought-provoking and learn so much from them, but what I appreciate most is that you and Sara are much-needed role models, very effectively and passionately communicating without ever having to be aggressive, vulgar or flashy to share your knowledge. I am very grateful for it.

There is something about John's delivery that makes it deeply personal, appreciative and moving.

People don't always demand an explanation with art. But they do when it's a line on a canvas or a pile of rags on the floor. People demand explanation from music too. Like free jazz. If it evokes emotion or beauty in the viewer, an explanation isn't needed. Modern art like this tends to fall short of such evocations

@Clockworkcityofpain

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe you're not looking at the right things or with the right mindset. I used to hate minimalism because I didn't understand it, I didn't get how a black square could mean anything but then I realized it was more about the materials, the methods, the brushwork than about inherent meaning. Sure, names can be a great guide but unless you take time to actually get to know the music, the book, the painting, unless you get intimately into it, you'll never get close to understand it since the explanations you're looking for are there imbedded in that which you can only know if you and the piece of art share the same space, if you will

@JohnSmith-bw6pv

5 жыл бұрын

@@Clockworkcityofpain People like you killed art, please explain how the black square is worth a second of thought other than to realize what real art and effort actually is :/ so desperate to understand something without any reason just to boost your ego ..

@Clockworkcityofpain

5 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-bw6pv lmao I just take time to learn things and get out of my comfort zone. Saying I killed art implies I had the purchasing power or the influence to move the money that made minimalism a big force in the art world, and sadly I don't even have money to make ends meet. But maybe watch the video this channel has called the case for minimalism and start there. Literally take some time to know what you hate so much and why you hate it. Maybe you're just a bit upset that you weren't the pretentious person who just took things out of their daily context and called them art and made some cash out of it idk dude I don't even know you

@JohnSmith-bw6pv

5 жыл бұрын

​@@Clockworkcityofpain But there's nothing to learn? That's why you avoided the question of how you can understand the black square but none of us can and that's probably 'cause you already admitted that the painting has no meaning and if you want to give it one you have to not look at the painting? Im pretty sure that's what you were getting at :/ even though it makes zero sense

@cubeofcheese5574

5 жыл бұрын

John Smith They would probably be more likely to explain it to you if you were more polite. If you have considered the value of minimalism and think it is garbage, then put your time into other kinds of art, but being rude to someone on KZread isn't going to help your case.

No to be rude and discredit this opinion, but I think that might of be your brain fulfilling expectation. Seeing that it was named gratitude then made you to expect to feel it and so you felt it. And you may of been moved to deeply becuase that expectation gave you an unconscious excuse to feel something you may have been blocking out, an emotion and tried to hold back or ignore for possibly and long time. I think with out the prompt to what you should feel when you look at the painting you would have felt little to nothing.

@Vinadet

4 жыл бұрын

But then isn't the art still effective? lol I am seeing a lot of people point out that "you needed to know more" in order to "get" the art, but I don't get why that's a problem.

@bennyboygames4195

4 жыл бұрын

Nethan Garvey I’m sorry but this is why I don’t involve myself with artists anymore the idiocy of today’s worlds has made my brain function less so much to the point where I can no longer comprehend stuff like this

@darthjaydar1989

4 жыл бұрын

Is art only valuable if its served the purpose of reaching a wide audience or forcing the viewer to feel a very specific emotion? The artist is painting something very private and dedicated many hours to produce something that satisfied an idea or concept that came straight out of her mind. Criticizing the work for how well it reproduces the exact emotion the artist was feeling in a viewer, and how it does so, is quite ignorant, as that is not the motive of art. The motive of an artist's work is as individual as a fingerprint, and if you have any real interest in the art world, or becoming more in touch with your artistic spirit, you will find that diversity to be the most attractive quality of all the great art of the world.

@lynxaway

4 жыл бұрын

The title of a painting is part of a painting. Sometimes you read a book that becomes beautiful and profound when you look back at the title and have a “ooohhhhh” moment; you have an important realization. It’s the same concept. The artist’s vision is inseparable from the art itself.

@WhiteCloudProductions

4 жыл бұрын

@@DaughterApollo I can't completely agree with the notion that the art is more about the artist who created it. The great thing about art in my opinion is it's ability to create experiences unique to the audience. Then learning about the artist can deepen the experience afterwards. So in this sense art is about the viewer first then the artist.

This video was very touching and it made me look at abstract artworks in a different way.

Every time I return to this story I become more envious of how she was able to live. It speaks to a way and an understanding of what is that people especially now want to tear apart.

I had the great fortune to commune with some of Agnes' paintings a couple of years back, and, yeah, they are powerful in a way that defies easy description or explanation. And they are expressive and impactful all the more because of their subtlety, something we could probably all use to be reminded of in our hyper-saturated media and otherwise landscape. Thank you for this video, I appreciated the intimacy and vulnerability of it, a perfect match for these equally intimate and vulnerable paintings.

Odilon Redon has a piece named The Buddha at Musée d'Orsay. Pure and subtle at once, my wife wept as we turned to it. Redon said he wanted to place the logic of the visible at the service of the invisible. If someone acknowledges their personal connection to a spiritual beauty, they’ll recognize it when it’s in front of them.

Beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing a more in-depth look at this wonderful artist. I love the idea of art created with one's back to the world. The internal word is so rich, wonderful and unexplored. Our understanding of our own feelings is so profoundly limited. Her work and the space it inhabits is a gift.

The Art Assignment is my favorite channel on KZread. I always watch everything you post, though not immediately since I know I have to watch the episodes multiple times and with immense focus to really enjoy every bit of beauty that is introduced here. Thank you so much for your hard work, and I look forward to whatever comes next!

In this video, it feels as if, rather than the art being “beautiful” or profound on its own, the explanation behind the paintings is what is causing it to be valuable

I wish I could appreciate stuff like this, even when going to galleries in person, pieces like these are just...there. I always go in with an open, even blank mind, but they never do anything for me. Give me a good landscape any day (if real) it's the next best thing to seeing the beauty of the place in person, it can add an extra layer of appreciation by thinking of the time and skill needed to create such a piece, and if the place isn't real then it shows creativity.

@velislavastoyanova1117

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with you, friend. Pieces like this are made in a vacuum, as the video explained. So they might mean something to the creator, but to us they look like vague lines on a canvas.

I once cried looking at my glasses lying on floor upside down ... it was sublime, a work of art.

@vandykmail

5 жыл бұрын

Rajat Roy 😂

I had the opportunity to see some of Martin’s works in a gallery opening at my university and it was really incredible to see just how much it really communicates. It’s so subtle yet so expressive. I heavily encourage anyone to try and see her work in person.

I took a modern art course a few years ago and I was fed up with it. Showing us Marina (I forget her last name)'s work of being stared at, among other art performances I voiced my discomfort with the idea that such pieces would have any merit in modern discourse and the modern art world. But after hearing about the nature of beauty I think it clicked in me after so long how it is subjective how we see beauty and how it moves us. It might be because I've gotten older and now I'm tackling these ideas more in my everyday life. I see why modern art is what it is and I accept it. Although I still have my reservations with certain pieces.

“Quiet paintings” Mmm... that’s nice.

This is so beautiful..your work and the way you approach these ideas. Thank you.

I had never heard of Agnes Martin or her work until I was lucky enough to come upon it in a quiet, unpeopled back room on an upper floor of the astounding SF MOMA. I took a seat, and spent several minutes gazing at each of the six or so paintings in the room. Having already been astonished by the Kiefers and the Polkes in other rooms, I wasn't expecting much. Indeed, I asked nothing of the paintings, thinking I had perhaps reached aesthetic supersaturation. But--softly, beautifully--they overcame me. I was flooded with relief, bliss, lightness, a sense of all-is-right-ness. Never have I had a museum-going experience like it. And I feel lucky. I feel blessed to have come upon those works. Seek them out. Sit. Clear your mind of chatter. And look.

this is my favourite art assignment video ever. thank you.

My problem with this type of art is that its value relies mostly and maybe only in its background, you need to have a context that not only adds value to it but in these cases, also IS the value of the piece. The problem continues when the value of the artwork can change if the context or its supposed veracity is proven inaccurate or wrong as in many modern artists cases. I think, maybe wrongfully, that the value of art should rely only in the artwork itself and the piece of reality it is able to grasp or express within itself. Artists shouldn't be protagonists, art should.

@TheBaldr

5 жыл бұрын

It makes me think back to Plato's Ion. Her words of "not painting of anything of or from the world, trying to paint inspiration itself, emotion" Almost sound like those words came out of Ion the poet himself. Which in Plato had Socrates rail against as not real art. I agree with Plato, art should be defined by skill, not emotions of the artist.

@SaMiChi

5 жыл бұрын

You can still view art through that lens if that is what you prefer, but to isolate art from its creator or its context would be pretty banal. Art is inherently human and to consume it purely for its aesthetics, leaves out realm of our human psyches that begs to be explored and celebrated. One could argue, artists should be the protagonists and art is their tool, weapon, or vessel to true expression. This shouldn't be black and white, and the art world has something for everyone, and it is up to the viewer to decide on how to consume it.

@kamecg

5 жыл бұрын

I feel that what makes contemporary art "good" "special" or even "functional" (these are all terrible terms of describing it, but just bare with me) is that is asks us as an audience to meet the artist sort of "in the middle" of the conversation, we are no longer just an observer or admirer of beauty or skill, but an active part of the work. In many cases, it elevates the artist, the work and our own understanding of the world and each other and just thinking about that really makes me feel happy to be able to appreciate it and share it, even though there's a lot of not so good or unedifying pieces out there, the examples that TAA proposes are often worth the effort.

@toddbross2302

5 жыл бұрын

This!

@starrodkirby

5 жыл бұрын

How about an opposite perspective: Artificial Intelligence can perfectly replicate an artists painting style into any photo you choose. It looks amazing and mystical, and exactly replicates that artists inspiration in infinite copies, better than any human can. It can produce imaginative and hallucinatory visions that may give insight into what the world looks like in a drug addled state. However, anything it outputs alone tells you absolutely nothing. There is no message, no context, no historical value, and no meaning in procedurally generated art. This is the real art for arts sake. There is still something that can be appreciated here though. In the end behind the algorithm are the humans that put hard work and their livelihood to push the boundaries of human technology, and curated examples to train the AI to seek criteria out of a sea of otherwise meaningless images. This gives them meaning as essentially human comprehensible in representations of what is possible with this new technology. It is the artificial intelligence itself that is the work of art. Even if anyone can manufacture a Van Gogh style or Picasso through perhaps an Instagram filter, that simply emboldens how gripping the forerunning innovation of that artist's style is in how it resonates with people to this day. There may eventually be human artists that take the time guide and train this artificial intelligence in an effort to build art that can produce new technically advanced and unconventional styles to depict new meaning that resonates through the world, much like how modern human chess grandmasters leverage algorithms to develop new strategies. It may result in a mass of "low effort" and generally meaningless filtered art, as mass media has done in pop art, or memegenerators have pumped out online. Arguably, photography has done the same by making the hallowed practice of depicting the world utterly mundane and ordinary. But there are certain photographers and their photographs that shock, convey information, or feeling just as the old masters did. And like that this may also just be a next step in how humans produce art without even a canvas or the old methods of technical skill.

Thank you for this, John. I've loved Martin's work for years but had never been able to express it as aptly as you have done.

What an incredible segment! I just love these videos. Now ill go find more about her

I wonder if there’s synesthesia for feelings, like if you feel something you can see that thing.

I’ve been thinking about this for the last month. How can we make art which communicates the uncommunicable? Good episode.

It's the kind of art you like to show others how much you like art.

Just found this channel, and now I'm in the quest to watch all of your videos!

my deepest and most uncanny emotions i often talk about in metaphors. when i was letting my depression get out of control i would say “i feel like embers, i feel like glowing red embers.” it’s funny how i relate to agnes but don’t..

when he said he’d cried while seeing the paintings I felt quite understood, because I’ve cried too. But now that I see the explanation behind the art of Agnes, I can really understand why he cried. It is really profound to think how she managed to portray such a complicating emotions into pieces of art without any specific society figure.

WOW. Such a beautiful description. I'm so excited to stop and take in one of her works soon.

Oddly enough, I had the exact same experience with Monet. I never liked his work, even as I appreciated its role in art, but when I saw his work in person, I was stunned. Prints just couldn't capture the luminosity of his work. I would never buy a print of his, but I'll take every chance I get to see a museum exhibition.

A very important question arises. Could an Agnes Martin piece be able to _transmit_ the feeling she was trying to express, if the person communing with her does not know in advance who Martin is or what she was painting about?

@AuntieHauntieGames

5 жыл бұрын

Transmission always relies on pre-existing knowledge of context. Even the most detailed realist paintings only communicate anything to us, for instance, because we have an experience of the thing they represent. We associate innocence with babies, and thus babies can be a symbol for innocence in realist painting, because we have been brought up to associate the image with the idea. If we sent a realistic and moving portrait into deep space, and it were discovered by aliens with no experience of Earth or its human societies, the painting would be mostly meaningless to them. It would transmit nothing. So, probably not? But it is not a failing of the painting or the approach to the image. It is just that the pre-existing knowledge of the painting's context is a bit less commonplace than the readily acceptable and internalized pre-existing knowledge that realist paintings depend upon.

@mandrakescreams

5 жыл бұрын

It would be interesting to put to the test. Show some friends her work and see what they pick up?

@welwitschia

5 жыл бұрын

@@AuntieHauntieGames I don't necessarily disagree with your reading, but given Martin's express intention of capturing pure emotion without metaphor or association, it is still an interesting question. The way I see this, there are two valid ideas on how this could work. On one hand, the paintings could be purely personal, i.e., they depict how Martin herself felt, thus previous knowledge would be indispensable. On the other, the paintings could be meant to _evoke_ the specific feeling Martin had in mind, thus making previous knowledge almost tainting of the effort, as it would prime the viewer to feel in a certain way before approaching the painting. If the latter is true, one could argue that _requiring_ previous knowledge would be equivalent to a failure in the purpose of the artwork.

@veronicatjioe7711

5 жыл бұрын

I saw her work a few years ago and was also incredibly moved by it-- which was strange to me because I've never been moved by abstract art before. I couldn't tell you why or a single thing about her until I saw this video a few minutes ago. Generally speaking the idea of "transmission" feels a bit "woo woo" to me--- but I gotta admit, everything John said about her totally put words to the deep emotions I experienced when I saw her work.

@AuntieHauntieGames

5 жыл бұрын

I'd say that is a fair assessment as well.

Thank you for sharing this.

The painting with the hard-to-see colours reminded me of my hard time finding inspiration and moved me. I feel you why you cried. I too wolud have...

i appreciate how natural this host comes across in the video. His eyes move away from the camera often, as though he is digging for the next words, feels natural to me.

The lines and emotion and the inability to convey the art reminds me of a transformative experience. I, for a long time, dismissed Mark Rothko's paintings as over glorified and sloppy squares. Until I saw one in person. I was blown away. I think about that painting all the time and that was 7 or 8 years ago. I think it was called Red #5 or something similar to that. Rothko's paintings we're things I had only ever seen reproduced on posters or on screens. Until I saw it in person I never actually experienced it and *that* was the part that reproductions can't convey

@xxxrdc

4 жыл бұрын

You appreciated that Rothko because you were TOLD TO... The power of suggestion worked for both Bob Ross as well as Adolf Hitler, and the black paintings of AD RINEHART.

I’m rereading Turtles All The Way Down which is wrote by John Green, the host of this episode, and I love that he chose to speak about these paintings. I recently read a passage in his book where Virginia Wolfe is quoted and talks about how we can’t express many of the innate feelings we have with out having to compare them to something else and even in those comparisons we can never truly explain our deepest feelings. I think these paintings are such a wonderful example of our want for other to understand how we feel and I’m for sure putting them on my bucket list of things I need to see.

Isn't it amazing that you can have this nostalgic feeling of innocence from pastel colors forming lines and spots?

This was beautifully done and a great introduction to a great painter, arguably one of the best in contemporary art

Gosh I was so surprised by the colours she chose. I could never imagine depicting my feelings, instincts and impressions of the world around me with such soft and pale colour. It’s so beautiful. But the colours which feel most personal and true to me are dark with stark contrast.

@AlthenaLuna

5 жыл бұрын

Introspection on how her depiction of feelings differs from how you would color your own - seems like her art is effective if not also affective for you. Listening to him, it is both for John. I'd have to guess, but that kind of reflection and response to her work is maybe what she was hoping for. It's also...just an interesting reaction and thing to think about. How you conveyed your reaction got me thinking about it in a way that I hadn't been previously.

Good job, Yeti`s husband! You have made me think and feel all through my morning!

This taught me more about abstract art than any museum ever has

Muchas gracias por presentarme a esta artista, no la conocía y ahora la amo. Gracias!

Is a novelist... talks about art...makes it about language...🤦‍♀️ no, I am just kidding, John. It is the tragedy of language that it cannot escape metaphor and thus the project of Agnes Martin is very ambitious because human beings cannot escape language. (literally, we need language in order to develop our full cerebral capacity). I wish, I could go to New York and look at those paintings...

@Ibarakify

5 жыл бұрын

Visual art can't escape this either. I agree that it's ambitious and a worthwhile enterprise, but it is folly to think you can honestly capture the thing whatsoever. We can only ever signify or point to a thing, never actually grasp it. That is what makes it a concept (and not a concrete object) to begin with.

@TheMsPants

4 жыл бұрын

I think we can bypass language to experience visceral emotions

Googled the mentioned artwork. So sue me, but they look like pastel floor rugs to me.

@boffle539

3 жыл бұрын

K R yeah, I feel like like everyone who “awakened” or something from seeing these pieces must be hipsters

I am going to study curating and art history at university so seeing my favourite contemporary writer talk about art is such an awesome feeling!! Thank you for the channel! I love how Sarah is so passionate about her field, it's really showing me that this is what i love and i've found my path!

this was really good. it opened my eyes (mind) the rose behind your back is profoundly poetic. lovely in words, even more so for the idea it conjures.

I've been to the MoMA a couple of times so I probably saw her paintings but I don't remember them. The explanations, her background and her quotes were very interesting though. It seems to me that minimalistic art pieces are just a vector towards meaningful philosophy, and that philosophy is what makes them art. Just like she said - beauty is in our mind. So her paintings don't matter as much as her thoughts do, we don't need to see her art to appreciate it. I don't get how someone can fully relate with these pieces without any sort of context, backstory or explanation - except if they look like your childhood bedroom's wallpaper or something.

This reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes".

I never thought I'd get so emotional watching a KZread video about her paintings. I love her work, but I think this video was one of the most respectful and sincere ways to honor her artistry! Thank you!

Yay! It's John Green! Is there anything he can't do?! So glad to see you on the Art Assignment!

So her paintings are not that great but the meaning, emotion, the goal and her backstory are what makes them great.

this video made me cry. i can really identify both with her and with your experience of crying to her paintings. Piet Mondrian's 'Broadway Boogie Woogie' made me sob buckets when I saw it in the flesh for the first time

@mandrakescreams

5 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad that other people cry at paintings. Hieronymous Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delights had me in complete awe.

@nicole-corine4121

5 жыл бұрын

I didn’t realize I wasn’t the only one who cries in museums (or because of art wherever it’s located) either. The whole Brooklyn Museum of Art made me cry. If there are this many of us, museums should start having tissue boxes on hand.

@eddieburrelli

5 жыл бұрын

I'll cry anywhere.

@xxxrdc

4 жыл бұрын

Seek professional help..

He did such a good job Hope we get much more of his art videos

This is one example of why I'm subscribed to this channel. I'm excitingly inspired by these analogies and Agnes's work.

Y’all have me ready to go to the MoMa right now!! I am so excited to see her work.

@theartassignment

5 жыл бұрын

Do it! With my Back to the World is on view right now on the 4th Floor in the Collection Galleries.

It pains me to admit that I would have dismissed her paintings with barely a glance with out hearing her story. I now realize that the paintings are illustrations and her life is the text. I must go explore this delightful new rabbit hole.

This was very inspiring. Thank you.

There are so many doors here. A formless feeling given life on canvas that can’t be shown, but only talked about, through arguably one of the greatest tools humans have built for communication. My head is spinning and I love it. Great video, as always!

Honestly,I have no emotion connection to her artwork,even with the story behind it.If a artwork is only good because of the story behind it,then the artwork is not good.The artwork cannot piggyback on 'it's good by association'.Sure,a already decent piece of artwork can be amplified with a fascinating story behind it (like 'Saturn devouring his son'.Though the idea of what is 'decent' is subjective) but if it's the end all,be all... Also,for the message she's trying to convey,wouldn't getting rid of the canvas entirely be bette? I mean,innocence isn't a lamb,but it certainly isn't a white canvas either Of course,this is all an opinion,another person could feel very emotionally impacted once they hear the story behind it.Though,you could possible understand why I find it (The praising of her artwork as masterpieces) to be somewhat pompous,since I don't 'get it'

@osml

3 жыл бұрын

Same. Everyone is allowed to portray their feeling in any way they want to, but these paintings mean no value to me. I don't 'see' anything in them. I am not trying to invalidate their art, because maybe for some my art has no value. This can go both ways. A few colors on a canvas doesn't make me feel anything. Some of them look like tiled bathroom walls. There are pieces that make me go 'Hmm, okay that's a little interesting.' , but modern art was never really my cup of tea, some of these don't even look visually appealing.

Imagine crying by looking at lines.

@cometcourse381

5 жыл бұрын

ok, i imagined it

What a refreshing channel! Thank you. I feel that I am the lines Agnes put to canvas.

Thank you so much for making this video, it is so amazing!

Is that john green?

@juliecapulet1948

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, he is the husband of Sara (who usually hosts this show)

Agnes Martin was born in Canada

i have a form of synesthesia that makes me experience music and people as colors, and sometimes concepts are colors too. it's a blessing to be able to visualise these impossible to grasp concepts that so many struggle with.

Thank you for this, I needed it today and I loved it.

To me it's not the art I demand explained, but the Artist. When speaking of Picasso I know that his abstract works have higher meaning because I also saw his realistic works and hence I know, that he is a capable painter, and not a con artist trying to sell us random shapes as profound experiences. This fear of being tricked and mislead is what turns people away from abstract art. I've never found an art piece by Agnes that wasn't abstract. This leads me to believe that she never took the time to learn to paint or draw, but rather focused on making these emotional pieces. You can't break the rules on purpose if you don't know the rules, so all her pieces are improvisations and their philosophical value is dubious to me when I see just them. However, given the explanation that she was a schizophrenic hermit makes these pieces interesting. Hearing from her why and how she draw these things allows me to get a glimmer of an idea how she, a woman so different from any other person I know, perceived the world. I may trust that these pictures have meaning by judging that she wasn't sane enough to pull them off as pretentious lies on purpose.

@quasiotter

3 жыл бұрын

What you see online isn't always the full picture! Most painters wouldn't show their student work to the public, especially since their ideas aren't "fully" developed. Artists make A LOT of work that is never seen outside of their studio. Although it may not be visible to you, there is a lot of control in how she painted, from the actual technique to the compositions. If you've never painted that way, you might not understand, and maybe even give it a try! Also, it's okay to not like them! I think the people who like art that's minimal are sensitive towards small visual differences in things. It's definitely valid to prefer paintings that clearly show technical mastery, but I'd advise against dismissing artists that are doing things that you may not enjoy.

I understand what John is saying... But I still don't get the paintings. They're just lines. Soft lines, barely visible. But just lines

@pendlera2959

5 жыл бұрын

Considering that the paintings are 5 feet square and that the human eye can perceive 100x more colors than a computer monitor can display, that doesn't surprise me. In fact, that's exactly the reason John gave for not showing any of the "With My Back to the World" artworks: he knew that most people would prejudge the original art based on its digital appearance.

@xxxrdc

4 жыл бұрын

Don't be so obtuse. Shut up and like what you are told to like.

This was a really interesting video, and gave me some good ideas to further my own art practice. Thank you!

This was beautiful. I discovered an artist who fascinates me now.

>Draw a couple of lines >Say it is a metaphor of some deep shit >Get famous >Profit

Sorry, don't get it. I get the idea, not the art. Might have to see some originals.

I love John Green. He could talk about potato farming and i would listen. He makes every topic he discusses interesting and relatable. I'm just beginning to study Art and his willingness to share how her art impacted him is so valuable to others. He's always been willing to discuss his journey openly with others. He's one of my favorite human beings ❤

This is a strong point of view on art that sadly isn't as popularly known among art lovers. I gotta start reading on Agnes Martin ❤️

so am i just some uncultured swine or what? i get no reaction from those paintings. nothing. it's a faint pattern on a bland canvas. thats it. i guess i'm just not as in tune as you artsy types

@TRamp94

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you. There's nothing. It's just a pattern you can easily find on kitchen towels.

Yeaaàaaa I gotta b honest I like art but this looks like modern art drab

I like this presenter’s style. Well communicated. thank you.

That is exactly what happened to me! In art school I used to hate abstract and minimalist art, and praise Picasso and other modernist. When I traveled to New York and went to the Dia Foundation and saw the works of Agnes Martin, Robert Ryman, Walter de Maria and so, I was so overwhelmed by the experience. Before, I saw all those works only as reproductions and descriptions, but the artists really succeed in creating something irreplaceable by the copy. Now I love those minimalist and subtle artists and despise the modernist marketing stunts and the long queues at the MoMA to see them and buy their merch.