Great review. Good see Arrma catching up on the hobby. Many people have already made these changes to the 3s line.

I appreciate the review and all the information you provide!! Thanks for the video. 💯

That was a great review! 👍 I purchased one from my LHS a few days after release. It's a beast. So far my only issue has been battery and ESC wire routing. I don't like how there's no slack between the ESC and motor with the ESC on top of the receiver box. I also had that battery splitter jumper detach from the strap clips and tangle with the center driveshaft. Ground down the connector and cut my shaft in two. My replacement shaft arrives today. I'm looking forward to more run and wrenching videos! 😀😆😆😀

@lcwgts1772

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing, I didn’t like how taught the ESC/motor wires were, you can actually move the ESC down to the bottom of the chassis right next the receiver box, theres already mounting holes there that the ESC and on/off fit perfect in, just need to get the right size screws.

Loved the video

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

thank you

#1 reply. The pinion gear is cheap and needs a hardened pinion added almost immediately. Like, order the pinion when you order the truck. Sketer for the win!

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

Definitely if you're a avid rc guy . I should've bought one instead of these guys . Just I built the same principle truck with arrma , other than having collection waste of money on plastic rcs because they will never perform as well as buggy truggy center diff rc . I guess like razor said they not intended to tune or change , just a grab go rc .

Razor, review on point. 👍

Love my Kraton 4S! I snapped my chassis in half (completely my fault). Great review!

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I saw that video, you have good aim! 😃

@tigerfighter77

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC lol adding salt to the wound

@LosihoTTT

Жыл бұрын

I saw your video too - couldn't have aimed for the tree trunk better if you tried ! Lol

@rcmadlabz2492

Жыл бұрын

We have some chassis brace options on our eBay store that will solve the weak chassis issue.

The upgrades metal diffs and gearing + steel output gears + Steel Spur gear all well worth the $70 bump over the V1...I take if you don't do jumps this chassis will be fine, or consider a chassis aluminum support.

Great review as always. Would love to see a video on changing the chassis as it seems like a complicated task for anyone who hasn't done it before.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I already have one for the Granite, search for "arrma chassis swap granite" and it's the same for this truck.

@martinbullla7654

Жыл бұрын

​@@RazorRCdo you think this ESC would work with a 2400 KV Traxxas Maxx motor in a Traxxas Hoss

Perfect review as well as all your reviews, enjoy to watch it. What in your opinion, is the really bench mark in 4S category, maybe the E5HX-4S. The biggest issues what I have with my Outcast 4S V1 is the clutch and rear diff so a middle diff I would prefer over the slipper clutch. Cheers, please make more and more videos ....

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'll be doing a 4S shootout video soon.

I think you nailed it. I have a Kraton but haven't sent it - no huge jumps in my usual spots. Most of the reason I bought the Kraton over the Outcast to start was because of the sability. I'd bet to keep weight down they didn't thicken the Kraton chassis - which for huge sends is going to be a downside Awesome review, agree on every single point. I love this truck and can't wait to get an Outcast for the massive sends.

@rcmadlabz2492

Жыл бұрын

You can have peace of mind sending it with our high performance brace. You can find them on our eBay store.

@OutlawRC

7 ай бұрын

I got the m2c chassis brace on way, can't wait to test it...

we looove you !! :) super nice done , straight no fancy stuff, like we need :)

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Merci!

@MRCG68

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC hey mate you speak french two ! ;)

Awesome review thanks Razor. I’m gonna be purchasing a 4S really soon. My votes are for the Sketer and the Kraton. What would you recommend? I’d like to buy both but realistically one is enough. Thx Razor.

i 1st cracked the chassis but still using then blew out the rear diff gear case cover an now ive broke a shock shaft other then that its been sweet

Hello and Thankyou for the review. what would you recommend for servo an servo horn upgrade? An would the Hobbywing Max8 combo be good for this? Thankyou for your time

My Outcast will be here.... eventually. Stupid Fedex. Was supposed to be here tomorrow, now I have to wait til TUESDAY. I already ordered a new servo for it so I can use a Treal servo saver, as I've heard lots of complaints about the stock servo saver. Soooooo looking forward to it.

Would love to see your review of the slipper clutch, we've been having alot of problems with it. Outside of the chassis problem (replaced twice in 3 weeks) the clutch is a big problem. For me, the chassis always Snaps where the control arm ties in. The plastic snaps and exposes the metal rod. Thus, a new chassis is the only option (downfall).

Another great review, i have an Outcast v2 on order from my local hobby shop, be a month or more before we get it here in Austraila. Be interesting to put it up against the Maxxes

@thunderstruckperthwa4644

Жыл бұрын

Iv'e now had the Outcast for 3 week and have been loving it, not as tough as the Maxes, they are tanks, but the Outcast has been great fun thus far dude.

@thunderstruckperthwa4644

Жыл бұрын

And fun is what is all about.

This happened to mine and Horizon Hobby hooked me up. And i run the same transmitter the 6s comes with and 6s shocks.

How to set better brakes sir. I was testing mine for the first time today on snow here in the arctic but i feel it is a bit slow on the break. I guess it is set at 50% from factory. Great videos you have. I have learn alot about cars here since i only fly planes and copters.

I blew the center drive shaft out of mine in 2 days. They should’ve went aluminum. The plastic splines do t hold up. This thing is a torque monster. Wheelies on demand all day long

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

try loosening your slipper 1/4 turn, mine was too tight out of the box

Excellent review. Especially so the section on durability which was very thorough. Another KZreadr embarrassingly awarded this RC a 10/10 rating for durability, lol.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I think I'm a little more knowledgeable and have a better rating system than most channels out there, but obviously I'm biased. 😄

@blairtoland1

Жыл бұрын

I mean, not everyone launches their RC’s 20’ in the air at dirt jump tracks, but ok 😂

@donatotusi9140

Жыл бұрын

@@blairtoland1 ikr🤣

my losi mini t 2.0 brushless has end steering adjustment. this is my next truck.

Just watched your video on the arrma kraton 4s nice lot of power but it's not in the UK yet

I wonder if the broken chassis is due to the squared off cutouts. If they were made round or dremeled to be round I think there might be less of a tendency to crack. Kind of surprised they did that because it’s generally known in engineering to cause an instant weak point.

Hi with the m2c brace can chassis still break.Your so good man well done :)

I've got a discontinued team associated RC8.2 1/8 buggy that I broke and can't get parts for. Reedy electronics are still good. 2000kv brushless motor, SC1000-BLesc and XP2G radio. I've also got 2 5200 mah, 35C 4s lipos. I want to get a Kraton to do some "average" bashing on my acre lot. Question is should I go for the 1/8 EXB roller and use my 4S electronics or just get the 4S RTR for the same price? I really have no desire to go to 6S given I have parts for 4S and I think 4S is plenty fast for what I'm doing. Any advice is much appreciated!

Am looking to upgrade my v1 kraton 4s any recommendations on certain parts what is better than I have stock

What is that brace for by the battery? I cant get my battery to sit in it correctly. The battery wires dig into it. I took it off, so battery wires don't chaff against it. Using the Spectrum battery's. I tried flipping the battery upside down and still same issue!

Thanks for the review! I was patiently waiting for this. That is crazy you having the chassis problems. You didn’t mention the slipper much as compared to other brands using center diffs in this video, so I’ll take it the slipper is comparable to a center diff? It is a really good looking truck. Thanks again.

@BeautyBeastRC

Жыл бұрын

A center diff is definitely better.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Slipper in this truck has been working great. Like I said in my Outcast video, it acts as a traction control device in dirt. It would steer better with a diff though, that’s part of why it doesn’t want to turn that well.

Does the Arrma Kraton 4S body fits to the MT410 Tekno?

I broke 2 chassis on my outcast v2 4s. That's why I'm getting a m2c chassis brace. 😅

Pre Ordered the outcast but now told December in 🇬🇧

Solid review although I find myself wondering which other truck(in class) did worse than three broken chassis. Seems like Fun factor/Likability would be another usefull catergory because no matter how much value, durability, and performance a truck brings the one that is the most fun may still be your favorite. Personally had to pass on a big air truck AGAIN because there is no clear winner. Arrmas look like they have the best handling in the air, Associateds have the best handling on the ground, and Traxxas has the best durability(usually.) Still looking for a truck that brings it all together.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I've thought a lot about adding a Fun factor, but so far haven't because 1) what's fun is pretty subjective and different for each person. For some, it's really about durability, i.e. if they're breaking a lot it's not fun. 2) I figured out the cars that are the most fun for me are the ones I have absolute control over, which is really close to the Performance category. It's not exactly the same, but it's pretty close. I might still add it one day, thanks for the suggestion.

M2C has a chassis brace for the V2

Would you mind doing a video on upgrading the servo saver, I’d also like to know which one you would recommend. Thanks for the content, have a good one bud.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I've got one out already on KZread.

@redpot6684

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC do you still recommend the same strength one, or has a newer stronger one come out, thanks.

I’m new, so what type of driving is the Krayton designed for?

Is the brace adjustable? Wondering if removing a little bit of the slack would help the chassis. Looking closely at this truck, I have an OG non wide Max and this looks like it will be a lot more fun with less traction rolling.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I’ve tested the upper brace both tight and loose. I think snugged up is better.

should i get kraton 6s or the new 4s version?

how about the battery can use like 6200mah becouse says on the box maximum capacity 5000mah

it comes stock with ic5 connecters?

Wondering which is the better buy, this or Kaiju

I find it really disappointing that they didn't include the AVC enabled TX/RX setup like on the 3s line. Seems like a step backwards. I suppose that was to keep the price down though.

The chassis and axels/drive shafts are weak. I can’t keep my drive shafts attached to the car. They keep coming loose and stripping out.

the main problem for the Kraton 4s v2, the chassis is longer, that create more weak point for break, the OutCast the chassis is short that reduce the problem, that main differents

hi anybody give me honest answer please.becouse this car has a minimum battery to 5000mah can i use 6200mah to this truck?

It may not be that the chassis is weak, it has such a wide stance that if lands flat from 20ft in the air the shocks cant slow it down. Its as if the chassis is taking all the impact.

Man this a rebranded Big Rock 6's Kraton please

So the arrma granite 3s might be a better buy?😭

The two star rating on the durability is accurate on this one. This car just doesn’t pass the test for $500 bucks.

Granted, I have an anti-Horizon bias, but I'll spend the extra $120 or so and get a truck I don't have to worry about breaking...as much.

I changed my order to the Outcast after seeing all the chassis breakages and none with the Outcast I have seen

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Good decision

The center brace meeds preload on the rubber damper. Unscrewing the rear rod end and slidding a 6s bearing bushing will do it. Because how it is right now the rubber bushing is doing nothing. Ur bassicly running the trucks like if the chassis brace wasnt installed thats how bad it is if you ask me

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I run mine with the chassis brace extended until the rubber stopper is snug.

@EXTREMERC416

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC i also used to do that but the nut near the damper likes to thread itself in while running

The swaybars dont do anything out of box,the crap plastic ball ends dont tighten, anybody got a fix,

hot tip: remove the chassis cross brace. haven't had any chassis issues so far. 🤞

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I tried it loose and tight, and things were worse when it was loose. I think it's needed.

@rogueFactor

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC 🤔

Razor, We don’t do all the social media stuff…contact me thru our eBay store.

run thicker shock oil- chassis problem solved..

I think those broken chassises weren't really the car's fault I watched some videos and I've noticed that there is lots of stones on the tracks especialy on that mountain one and you've been jumping it well over 15f into the air the car maybe just bottomed out on the stone and punctured through the chassis. And the 2nd one I think that was the nosedives you did 😂 I'm not trying to hate I just think that this might be the case why it breaks so easily

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Could be, but like I said in the video, I have pretty much EVERY 3S, 4S, and 6S monster truck you can buy and take them to the same spots and they don’t break, so…?

@stradale1310

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC the Kraton has a flat chassis. The Traxxas Maxx has like a bow so there is no way to puncture by the stone. We will see how the Outcast chassis hold up after time so might be the stones or you've been just really unlucky

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

@@stradale1310 I have two Granites and a Vorteks I’ve taken here too, plenty of videos doing triples at the same spot.

Design 4 stars, its average? Don't you say average is 3 stars and 3 stars is a little above average?

The lack of options for the servo saver is terrible. The kimbrough 124 develops excessive slop with time the arrma ones are way too soft. Arrma making an Heavy dury version but only 23t spline. For the 80% of arrma 3-4s owners our trucks will keep running like pigs

I'm from the future the chassis plastic is weak lol

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

Lol fr

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

Be nice someone makes a aluminum one of same design

its a great truck with a good price if you dont yeet it off ramps 40 feet in the air and slap the chassis with the force of god on the ground. traxxas max is over priced as with all traxxas stuff.

If I was Arrma, I would sue this guy. Non stop hitting 8ft jumps to flat ground... wtf u think would happen to the chassis??!! Nah man

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad you’re not Arrma then!

@JamesSmith-il9zp

Жыл бұрын

@Razor RC bro I fully apologize for my comment!!! Got my kraton 4s Saturday, ran it for 15 mins around my apartment parking lot. Jumped a couple sidewalks and boom. After the 8" jump from the sidewalk. Broke both front control arm mounts. I'm so bummed. Do u know of a way to prevent it? Upgraded parts. Love my senton, it's bulletproof but the kraton really disappointed me.

If you try to break it you will

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

If you try to jump it like other 4S cars, you will break it

3 chassis? no thanks.

Horizon plastic 😒

Complains about the aluminum chassis, they make a plastic one, proceeds to complain about it 🤦🏻

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

It has nothing to do with a chassis being plastic or aluminum. The Maxx is plastic and it's the most durable one out there, I guess you missed that part of the video. The Sledge is the only aluminum one I complained about, and that's because it sucks. Everything else is fine.

@codenamethecleaner7519

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC maybe it’s the batch of plastic or something cause I’ve sent mine 104ft and 55ft high so far and regularly around 60ft and haven’t broken one

Worst rc i have ever purchased. End of story.