Arrma Kraton 4s diff install

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In this video AJ makes the attempt to install the Mojave 4s center diff module into the Kraton 4s. The chassis between the trucks are a bit different so this may not be so easy. If it does get installed we will take it out and test it to see if it is an improvement or not. Come along as we dig into the Kraton 4s to see if this is even possible.
Individual part numbers for the build:
Diff housing - plastic parts - ARA311169
Housing screws - AR723320
Housing rubber plugs - ARA311185
Motor plate - ARA311192
Center diff - ARA311165
Diff bearings - ARA610038
Chassis screws - AR722412
The locking block has the same part number as the housing pieces so should come with them.
The nut and screw, however, we're not so sure of, so...
Block nut - AR715005
Block mounting screw - AR722415
There you go, all the part numbers for the build.
Music:
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  • @WildWolfGT
    @WildWolfGT3 ай бұрын

    I got the Kraton 4s v2.5 with the center diff, such an awesome car.

  • @tydymiler
    @tydymiler8 ай бұрын

    Can't wait to see you try the Big Rock. It's the favorite in my fleet to tinker with, and I despise that dang slipper clutch. It's done nothing but bring me grief. Thank you for the video!

  • @Livlifetaistdeth
    @Livlifetaistdeth8 ай бұрын

    Fantastic video, thanks for not just reviewing stuff but improving it along the way.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    It’s our pleasure. Thanks for commenting. 😎👍

  • @88davidw
    @88davidw8 ай бұрын

    This is brilliant. Thank you for making the video. The slipper in my K4s has always been a problem. I think I will buy the parts and fit to my car.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Be patient, they are out of stock at the moment. Every one is trying to get their hands on those parts. Even Jenny's RC is sold out. It will be worth the wait though. Be wary of those scalpers on eBay who are asking way too much for them, trying to take advantage of the shortage. Arrma will catch up to the market in time.

  • @88davidw

    @88davidw

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios thanks for the advice. I was expecting that to be the case with stock. I’m in no rush anyway particularly as the weather isn’t so great now.

  • @GeddyRC
    @GeddyRC8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this video. I’ve been waiting for Arrma to release a center differential kit for the K4 since I got it and this is just what I was expecting, very happy to see they designed the chassis with a center diff in mind.

  • @LegendsPizzaCo
    @LegendsPizzaCo5 ай бұрын

    Glad I waited for v2.5 and it came with a center differential. I'm itching to open it up and change the oil in it.

  • @jasondemers8522
    @jasondemers85228 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait to see the big rock conversion. I have one and I am really curious about this! Thanks brother for this awesome vid!

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for commenting 😎👍

  • @m2cracing168
    @m2cracing1688 ай бұрын

    Great install! we just got ours!!!! Thanks for posting!!

  • @danielkroeze8218
    @danielkroeze82188 ай бұрын

    Your so inspirational bro! Keep up what makes it all worth while for you brother!👊❤️So professional and helpful….

  • @gillian9178
    @gillian91788 ай бұрын

    The diff does fit into the 3s line, Jt RC put the 4s Mojave diff straight into a Senton 3s in one of his video's.

  • @paulnorton7444
    @paulnorton74448 ай бұрын

    Great vid as always very helpful 👍

  • @Krapper515
    @Krapper5158 ай бұрын

    Awesome! I can't wait to try it on my Senton!

  • @rccarsandmusic2641
    @rccarsandmusic26418 ай бұрын

    I was saying this since the Mojave came out that center diff even fits in the 3s line. That module is a real game changer.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    If they are paying attention to our community, and they usually do, they already have an upgrade kit in the works...if they don't listen, for some reason I can't even begin to imagine, then they are going to be shocked at the Mojave 4s parts they end up selling as we buy them up and do the mod for ourselves. Usually Arrma listens to us, so my money is on a retro diff kit of some kind coming out to get all those people who already have 3 and 4s cars onboard with what's new and hot for these machines. The way it slips right in...and the fact you can't get the parts very easily right now...indicates they are planning something.

  • @rccarsandmusic2641

    @rccarsandmusic2641

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios The diffs are on backorder, motor plates backordered, they didn't see it coming.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Nope, they didn't see it coming, but they are watching now. Even Jenny's RC is sold out.

  • @rccarsandmusic2641

    @rccarsandmusic2641

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios I checked Jenny's today I saw that lol. I'll wait, winter now the good slippers will drop in price.

  • @iidreddiipsn4720

    @iidreddiipsn4720

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@AJJAMStudios Is there anyway you can add a video demo of assembling the Center Diff as it looks like we have to do it peice by peice? I'm not mechanically smart lol.

  • @rawrc
    @rawrc8 ай бұрын

    Wow thats awesome!...your the first ive seen show this....nice work👌

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Awesome. Thanks for the comment. AJ

  • @SuppleBun
    @SuppleBun8 ай бұрын

    thats so cool, id love for arrma to release a center diff kit for the 3s and 4s lineup of vehicles

  • @GamezOfWar

    @GamezOfWar

    8 ай бұрын

    Jenny’s RC man! Just got mine!

  • @Schmidt3850
    @Schmidt38508 ай бұрын

    Sweet! I as well could never understand why they put a slipper clutch in the V2 Outcast and kraton. I stayed snapping shafts on my outcast. Found a company on eBay that makes a slipper clutch hub out of 7075 never snapped a shaft again. But I am definitely going swap it out with that center diff. Great video thanks for the insight.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    I'm glad we could help. The slipper and the locking spool both overdrive the components when pushing big power in high traction, and that comes at the cost of durability. With some lighter fluid in the center diff, when you get one installed, it will ease the problem and allow you to keep that sweet top speed. I would still be careful to be off the throttle when landing your RC to help prevent any overpower to the drive system...it happens to us all at times. Please let us know what you think when you get yours installed. Thanks for sharing. AJ

  • @Schmidt3850

    @Schmidt3850

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios You wouldn't know this but I have been in this hobby for like 20 years. I have 4 trucks fully equipped with m2c racing parts and the toughest parts l can find. My trucks look like dots in the sky when I jump them. Well aware of the functions of a slipper clutch.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Awesome. Good to hear. Bash on, my friend. 😎👍

  • @christianhvidt6823
    @christianhvidt68238 ай бұрын

    I like to see the new Big rock 6s hit the dirt🎉 ..hope to see a newer version on typhon s6 blx soon..what could be a good upgrade!😊

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    The Typhon 6s upgrade? Wow, I'm not sure about that. If I were asking for upgrades I guess I would ask for a tougher, basher type chassis with redesigned chassis braces that are more substantial, not the lighter one they put in the TLR. A tougher, faster servo. Belted tires with a different tread design, more like a truck pattern. Larger teeth on the diffs to help prevent diff failures. Aluminum front and rear diff housings for added control over the diff spacing. A rear bumper set, built after the EXB bumper design for greater jumping protection. An EXB front bumper designed just for the typhon for those unexpected impacts. After all, they already have the race version, so a dedicated heavy bash version would fit the bill for us here. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for asking. AJ

  • @christianhvidt6823

    @christianhvidt6823

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios yes well a stronger servo would be a nice choice..i guess a new spektrum 665 when it comes out..think ill go for savox or power-HD that can handle 8,4 volts!😆now that i got my hobbywing max 8 with 2250 kv motor😇

  • @Macgyver46
    @Macgyver468 ай бұрын

    The MWB chassis of the outcast 4s v2 needs a small modification to make it fit. So the length of the chassis will make a difference if modification is needed or not.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 😎👍

  • @owen8538
    @owen853822 күн бұрын

    I wanna see 4s exb :)

  • @make4all2000
    @make4all20008 ай бұрын

    Hello! I think the problem is not with the differential oil, the Mojave 4s comes with a 16t engine pinion if I'm not mistaken, instead the kraton comes with a 13t one, I think the problem with the front lift comes from here...good luck!

  • @joshobrien7708
    @joshobrien77087 ай бұрын

    H AJ, Another great video mate...what weight diff fluid would you recommend for the centre?

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    7 ай бұрын

    Personally I prefer lighter fluid for better control. It a personal decision. Thanks for asking. 😎👍

  • @garethsmith5535
    @garethsmith55358 ай бұрын

    Great video. Do you have trouble with the wheels not turning much from side to side?

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    No. Check the dual rate for your setup and see it is turned up. It should be the first knob from the rear on the SLT 3. Turn that up and try it. 😎👍

  • @runnerbaba
    @runnerbaba8 ай бұрын

    ARA311173 Alloy one or ARA311165 metal one? Stock on Mojave 4s is the metal one. What are the advantages of both?

  • @shaunwee7658
    @shaunwee76586 ай бұрын

    Hi. Do you have a video on how to replace and centering a new servo for Kraton 4S. My car keeps going right upon acceleration.

  • @michaelc3416
    @michaelc34167 ай бұрын

    Can you make a recommendation for the proper diff fluid viscosity? You mention using a lighter fluid than stock but didn’t say what it is stock, or make a suggestion for a better option. Thanks.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    7 ай бұрын

    It all depends upon what you want from your RC. Stunting = thicker fluid. Controllability = lighter fluid. This is our understanding of the subject. We went super light and it controlled well and we ran it stock and it stunted nicely. Even mix…50k perhaps and see how you like it. Then adjust from there.

  • @knivesloveliberty9329
    @knivesloveliberty93298 ай бұрын

    Well done! Thank you for the parts list. How do you think this would translate to the big rock v3?

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    We’ll have that video when our next transfer case arrives. I really want one in there. Thanks for asking 😎👍

  • @creditrazer981

    @creditrazer981

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@AJJAMStudios yeah I'd like to drop that Differential in my 3S. Put Castle 4S ESC and Motor in last spring, but have been afraid to put a 4S battery in. Granted I went 100% metal gearing as well, but the Slipper has always been my concern.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    And you're right to be concerned about that. I agree, the slipper set is alright for 10th scale racers, but 8th scale bashers and larger not so much, and 4s not at all. We wound up tightening our slipper all the way down, making it a locker, just to get some runtime out of it. This new diff sounds like the answer to all those issues. However, there's still the issue of the plastic center drive shaft to consider. At 4s ours vibrates terribly, and this is in both the Mojave 4s and the Kraton 4s V2, but not so much on 3s in those cars. There's a lot of torque and power in those systems and I'm not sold on the lighter center shaft to handle that kind of power. In fact, I'm looking for an alternative to the plastic one as we speak. If you find one please let us know where to find it. I would love to give one a try. Thanks. AJ

  • @creditrazer981

    @creditrazer981

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios A solid (Aluminum ) drive shaft would make good sense. I havent had issues, but, keep in mind been running my 4S vehicles on 3S Batteries, because didnt want to over do it, and just waste money. 3S is pretty fun, but 1 day, with this new 4S Differential, and a Aluminum shaft will go full blown 4S, then just gotta pray the CVDs hold up...Always something right :)

  • @SnoriRC

    @SnoriRC

    7 ай бұрын

    Hi guys - great video AJ. I’ve been running aluminium centre shafts on 3S and 4s Arrmas. They are available on eBay etc. spring loaded like stock but metal construction. Never twisted and also resist rocks slicing right through them. Keep wrenchin’ 🔧

  • @Acornejo02
    @Acornejo028 ай бұрын

    Has anyone tried to do thid to the 3s big rock or the Vendetta? It looks like it should fit! I've been thinking about making my br 4s

  • @johngantner9314
    @johngantner93148 ай бұрын

    Love this truck, but mine has been dead because of this slipper issue

  • @dandyer8351
    @dandyer83514 ай бұрын

    Hi what oil weights would folks go for in a senton 3s with this 4s module. And the front and rear diffs thanks.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    4 ай бұрын

    In our Senton 3s we stuck to the stock oils. We haven't installed the center diff system in it yet. 😎👍

  • @Batchat2352
    @Batchat23528 ай бұрын

    I believe stock fluid is 100k. Is that too much? Dang

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 😎👍

  • @OutlawRC
    @OutlawRC8 ай бұрын

    Where did you get that little black block from that replaces the red one?

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    It has the same part number as the housing and came with it.

  • @jackgeorge3892
    @jackgeorge38928 ай бұрын

    Any idea how Arrma feels about this modification? It looks like this would solve the issue with the bent motor mount, too. Any comment on this? Thanks!

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks you for the question. The way the Mojave 4s diff module slipped right into the Kraton 4s tells me they already want something like this out on the market. I would consider this a test run for the idea. They, meaning Arrma, watch and listen to our community, that's why the center diff came out in the first place. We've been complaining about the slipper setup for years, and placing it in 4s rigs is not the best idea they ever had, and I think they know that, but building up a fan base that already owns the slipper style cars, 3s and 4s alike, and then releasing a diff upgrade for all those machines sounds like something they have been planning for some time now. I hope they come out with the actual upgrade kit...like the upgrades the do for the boost series. There's money to be made here and Arrma is well aware of that fact. I would look for this upgrade becoming available in the very near future. Of course, it only fits straight into the longer wheelbase RCs. The short ones, like the Granite, for example, have required some chassis mods to get it installed. Perhaps they are designing one for those RCs as well. We'll have to wait and see. Thanks for asking. AJ

  • @MrShaaman6969
    @MrShaaman69698 ай бұрын

    Did you fiddle tmwith the center diff fluid or leave it stock ????

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    We ran it stock to see how it would handle. 😎👍

  • @_EV36_
    @_EV36_8 ай бұрын

    Is there a parts list associated with this conversion? Any way we could get the part numbers? That would be awesome!

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    List is in the description

  • @_EV36_

    @_EV36_

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AJJAMStudios Thank you!!! Keep making awesome content!!!

  • @shaunodriscoll
    @shaunodriscoll8 ай бұрын

    What’s the cost of the replacement diff? Nice work

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    It wasn't cheap. Buying each part added up to just over $135 and change. Still, I think it was worth it. Thanks for asking.

  • @creditrazer981
    @creditrazer981Ай бұрын

    I dont know about you, but...While got everything out, and replacing a crucial part, like the Diff, would it not made good sense to have checked the Diff Fluid? I was a little conflicted on that. Arrma has bad reputation for NOT filling as should. Plus dont most of us go with HEAVIER fluid.

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    Ай бұрын

    The video was how to install. I checked the fluid when I got it to the studio. Not full, but serviceable. Thanks for the comment. 😎👍

  • @S40TBS
    @S40TBS8 ай бұрын

    Could you do 3s bigrock would love it in my truck 👍

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    That video is currently in the works. 😎👍

  • @charlesoclassen2732
    @charlesoclassen27328 ай бұрын

    So it seems like $120-130 to do this? That makes it around $600 for a 4s outcast or Kraton and a center diff mod. Kraton 6s is $549, so is that a way better option?

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    If you already own a 3 or 4s RC then this mod is the way to go if you want to improve your experience with the truck or car. If you’re buying, the choice has to be yours. Recommendation: find one that blows your hair back and get it. If it thrills you, you have the right one.

  • @Douger318
    @Douger3188 ай бұрын

    Got part numbers. You should link parts used

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Part numbers are in the description.

  • @kaiarneberg9203
    @kaiarneberg92038 ай бұрын

    So the holes underneath were already there?

  • @CornholioMcGeeRC

    @CornholioMcGeeRC

    8 ай бұрын

    Double yupper farts for supper!!!

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, they were already there 😎👍

  • @kaiarneberg9203

    @kaiarneberg9203

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@AJJAMStudios hmmm so arrma knew this.....hmm 😂

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    I think they have plans for this module, but we don't know what that plan is yet.

  • @Batchat2352
    @Batchat23528 ай бұрын

    The only thing it doesnt have is the holes under the spur

  • @AJJAMStudios

    @AJJAMStudios

    8 ай бұрын

    True. We are going to do that when we swap out the diff fluid for something lighter.

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