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@Game_Hero

2 жыл бұрын

Are you kidding me?

@mhatzen6908

2 жыл бұрын

No

@naponroy

2 жыл бұрын

can we all agree that Gaid Shadow Losers is terrible and ripping off your viewers?

@bumb.wingman

2 жыл бұрын

Nawwww

@snaiper195

Жыл бұрын

@@naponroy yes but you made a typo in Raid

Turkish Army: Before announcing our coup, we like thank our sponsors - Raid Shadow Legends.

@TheCimbrianBull

2 жыл бұрын

The most ambitious crossover ever!

@christopherconard2831

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for that in a political debate. "With my new proposal the people will have more time. More time to....(pauses for dramatic effect)... Join me on Raid Shadow Legends!"

@farqitol

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta pay the bills.

@andraslibal

2 жыл бұрын

Reminded me of Trovarion: how he said the one thing you will never hear on his channel is this :))))

@jean-pierrefernandez2460

2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of you would be surprised just how much Western governments are using these gaming apps to condition the population for war

Basically the trouble with cold war is that it doesn't takes to long before getting a coup

@hellenicboy4757

2 жыл бұрын

Συμπατριώτη

Adnan Menderes, 17 Eylül 1961: "Asılmadan önce sponsorumuz Raid: Shadow Legends'a teşekkür etmek istiyorum."

@TheCimbrianBull

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@reddude3086

2 жыл бұрын

güzel çalmışsın

@ozgu12

2 жыл бұрын

"teşe..." derken vur sandalyeye gitsin

16:18 "The former Minister of Foreign Affairs and the former Minister of Finance were hanged to death." Sounds much more extreme than the usual, "Hanged to discomfort."

@BountyFlamor

2 жыл бұрын

Hanged to dry

great video, you should definitely do one about the '80 coup as well

@renatokoxla9065

2 жыл бұрын

your mom is great

@splacsicticmus6973

Жыл бұрын

@@renatokoxla9065 Small Malbania

Modern Turkish history is novel in being depressing and awful in a ton of ways.

@ilbertunga853

2 жыл бұрын

That was the best event in the modern Turkish history. I wish they roasted more Islamists.

@badluck5647

2 жыл бұрын

Turkey is the only country I can think of where the military cracks down on authoritarian populism and then restores democracy as the country stabilizes. Usually military coups just seize power and reestablish elections when they can rig it in their favor.

@orkundislike3264

2 жыл бұрын

@@badluck5647 its weird isnt it LOL XD

@randomthoughts6625

2 жыл бұрын

In the Last 100 years turkey had the biggest economic growth compared to every other country

@mikloridden8276

2 жыл бұрын

Turkish troops are well known for forcing their private parts into others. Never liked em

Haha what Turkey needed in 60s was definitely a CHAMPION

@OttomanDrifter91

2 жыл бұрын

Me a Turkish person: OF COURSE WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF IT BEFORE lolol

I'm still waiting Algerian war of liberation

@EdMcF1

2 жыл бұрын

So are the Algerians.

@juleslandry7585

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 and the french ;)

@codyvon.

2 жыл бұрын

And Spaniards in Spain

Great documentary about 1960 coup, however as a Turkish person, your pronunciation of ‘c’ letter in Turkish names had jarred my ears :) ‘Cemal’ or ‘Celal’ not with ‘c’ as in ‘cell’ but with ‘j’ as in ‘jazz’

@EdMcF1

2 жыл бұрын

In England, we often see Atatürk's first name rendered as 'Kemal', so a 'hard' c, like 'cake'.

@sakurt53

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 that is true. In Turkish, every ‘k’ letter is hard as ‘c’ in cake, and every ‘c’ is pronounce as ‘j’ as in ‘jar’. There is no exemption for any letter in Turkish to pronounce differently from one another. However as I understand, you seem to be confused with Kemal and Cemal. These are two different names with completely different meanings(these names rooted from arabic), not the same names with different letters :)

@williamlanger9229

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 it's not pronounced with a hard c? crap, or i guess jrap..

@TheBLGL

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, he says more than CHP as the English “c”? That jarred my ears and I’m not Turkish, I just lived there two years and are used to hearing the Turkish parties pronounced with the Turkish alphabet. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Now I’m deciding if I should stick around and listen to the rest….

@TheBLGL

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 Kemal is always spelled Kemal, you can’t spell it “Cemal”, that’s a totally different name that is usually spelled “Jamal” (not exactly cause the pronunciation is still different due, but closer) in English. You would never see Atatürk’s name spelled differently, his name is Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, never Cemal. So it’s not something the English did, it’s simply how it’s spelled.

Aside from some forgivable pronunciation mistakes and mismatching newspaper images and the issue discussed I can fairly say that this is a very good not-so-detailed simplified but not superficial documentary for people who is not familiar into the topic. Some notes about the coup and the people: - Turkesh, the announcer of the coup latterly dissented by the main group in junta and sent into exile in India as ambassador. He found a party and was the political victims of the 1980 coup - First free elections after the coup in 1961 (it was not in 1965 as in the video) Justice Party, descendant of Democrat party became second party with just %2 difference with CHP. Two fighting brothers had to make a coalition after the coup. In 1965 Justice party Come to power alone - President Bayar who was last prime minister of Ataturk tried to commit suicide on the coup night when he saw the tanks in front of presidential palace but saved by junta members - Prime minister Menderes also tried to commit suicide on his detention days in yassiada - A year after the coup, a constitutional referandum was held which the intention was justify the coup and the coupists. %60 of the votes was "yes" despite making a propaganda in favor of "no" was illegal - National Unity Committee had 38 members and they appointed their leader Gursel as president. 6 years later he had stroke then taken to US for treatment but decided that it's better a president should die in his own country. After arrival to Turkey a group of specialist doctors made a report for him that implies he is not able to be a president anymore. The number of the committee was: 38. He was in coma for 7 months and died a year and a half before the end of his term

@canavar1435

2 жыл бұрын

I liked the "Millet Party". Must have been influenced by the "Arpa Suyu Müdürlük"....

@sarubet8725

Жыл бұрын

@@canavar1435 Osman Bölükbaşı was our only hope. Wish he was successful.

@bodoor8172

7 ай бұрын

As a native Turkish speaker I agree, the pronunciations are forgivable, he did well, enjoyed the video.

The Generals investigated and reviewed my history of the subscribe button. They have approved a thumb up for this video.

The first of several military coups in Turkey, from what I've read. When able, if you haven't already, cover Pakistan in the Cold War.

@badluck5647

2 жыл бұрын

Pakistan and India, and how the cold war powers got suckered into their proxy conflict.

Can you please make a video on south Africa in the cold war

@frankieseward8667

2 жыл бұрын

There's loads of history there. Soweto and Steve Biko alone would be something.

@SAVAGE-oe3fg

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankieseward8667 yes and the secret nuclear weapens,korean war,rhodesia and the border war

Please make a video on brazilian military dictatorship and about Plan Condor. There is a lot of history to be covered in these themes.

@Yguim

2 жыл бұрын

It would certainly be great

@kenzomatsuda184

2 жыл бұрын

Up

@rezajafari6395

2 жыл бұрын

They haven't really reached that point yet, but I assume it's coming soon

@robertortiz-wilson1588

10 ай бұрын

We're on a timeline. Pay attention.

I really love his video, there were some good information about his video also.

Great independent documentary,you covered both sides concerns thank you guys.

Thanks

Geldik bakalim🐺

I'm so happy that I found this channel. Thanks for all the videos.

Hey Cold War! I really love your channel! Could you please some about the 1956 Georgian Demonstrations or the 1978 Tbilisi Riots? That would be great! Thanks.

One missing point was the head of Turkish general staff Rustu Erdelhun surrendering to a major for fear of death.

We wish to feature of Indonesia under Suharto and the Philippines under Ferdinand Marcos

@christopherconard2831

2 жыл бұрын

The Philippines should probably be a two part video. 1) Postwar, from colony to republic. 2) And then Marcos happened.

This was very nice. Are you going to do more video's on Turkey?

Please, make a video about Brazil's military dictatorship and about the Condor Plan

I'd also like your take on the Greek political situation after the Civil War (eg. trial of Nikos Beloyiannis) and the Greek Junta of 1967!

They say if the lights on for the General staff (Turkish Armed Forces) building,people should be scared of what they are going to do.

Does it weird anyone else out that there's been less time between the fall of the Ottoman Empire and this coup (40 years) than between this coup and present day?!

@mustafahakansandk7747

3 ай бұрын

Not even 40 years; 36 years, 6 months and 28 days. The Republic was founded on 29.10.1923. The coup was on 27.05.1960. Most generals were born in the Ottoman Empire and some generals fought in WW1 and the Turkish War of Independence.

Menderes befriending the USSR was almost a death-sentence for him.

@Pavlos_Charalambous

2 жыл бұрын

Like Makarios 14 years later

@bodoor8172

Жыл бұрын

Geography my friend, Turkey was basically a neighbor to the Soviet Union.

@Critt_Ari

Жыл бұрын

​@@bodoor8172 that's why Turkey allied with the us at the first place

@robertortiz-wilson1588

10 ай бұрын

Good.

Adnan Menderes reminded me of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto of Pakistan, both governments overthrown under similar circumstances, both were executed by the military.

@tezcanuyank3446

2 жыл бұрын

Is pakistan's army secular?

@dairebulson7122

2 жыл бұрын

@@tezcanuyank3446 I feel it's a bit the opposite in that case- Menderes was a conservative but courting better relations with the USSR, overthrown by a secular, pro-West military. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto had more progressive and secular leanings, perhaps center-left, and possibly was engaging with improving relations with the USSR (at least some people claim), overthrown by a conservative, Islamist military, with substantial Western backing.

@randomthoughts6625

2 жыл бұрын

I think however that Bhutto was back then on the ride side of history while Menderes was in my view on the wrong side of history. After Bhutto shariah came to Pakistan after Menderes democracy came back to Turkey

Turkey's history is like a movie.

@Emre-tf8hp

2 жыл бұрын

as a turk i can definitely agree

@kdrkfl

2 жыл бұрын

as a Turk, i can definitely disagree.

@SirMrBerk

2 жыл бұрын

as a turk, deez nuts

@TheCimbrianBull

2 жыл бұрын

A turkey? 🦃🍗

@Emre-tf8hp

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCimbrianBull mayhaps.

Could you do a video on Ataturk and the counter revolutionaries against his ideals until today.

U mentioned in the Suharto video that more Indonesia videos would be coming well? Are they on the way or what?

Could you make a video on the special relationship between Britain and the USA?

@badluck5647

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely, need to talk about Thatcher and Reagan when we get to the 80s

You guys make Saturday breakfast soooo amazing keep up the amazing work.

@viewerssejati8940

2 жыл бұрын

Already Sunday in my country

Could you please do a video about the progrom and the greek-turkish relations after ww2 ?

Please make a video on Antartica during cold war.

Intriguing. Plus your bell button bits are some of the best on KZread!

Very interesting!

Ayyy I was looking forward to this video for a while after the earlier video you made on this. Thank you!!

My bell button loves a good coup. ;)

The 1960 constitution that had been published by the junta was perhaps the most democratic consitution of Turkey, and yet one of its publishers, Alpaslan Türkeş, founded the far-right ultranationalist and neo-facsit party of MHP which played a key role in the politcal violence of the '70s. This video is a great demonsration of the political unstability that has plagued the country ever since its birth.

@extragoogleaccount6061

Жыл бұрын

Seems like a lot of extremes on both ends. From Stalinist communists to neo-fascists. It seems it takes year and years to develop the stability of a country such that the parties are willing to respect operating under the framework of a democratic republic. In stable democracies, there is still a left and right spectrum of parties but it is limited in its extremism as all parties respect the *type* of government. It is a shame how in many countries have to deal with parties/leaders that immediately want to go authoritarian no matter their spot in the political spectrum.

yes finally

I like how you didn't take any sides on this video

Turkish Armed Forces was not already in tune with Adnan Menderes because of his attempts to found an authoritarian administration and his rhetorics to incite relatively conservative people. In addition, Adnan Menderes wanted to be in relation with SSCB, because the Marshall Aid provided by the Us had been stopped, which made the Us annoyed and caused the Us approved the coup requested by Turkish Armed Forces.

Can you talk about Pacepa affair?

Alparslan Turkes, who was one of the colonels orchestrated the 1960 coup had taken a strict training of special and clandestine warfare in the United States and was a massive ultranationalist.

History repeats itself. So many parallels with now.

As a Turk, this video is accurate. It's a still a discussion in Turkey. Liberals and Islamists (of course) thinks it was a disaster. Seculars and Nationalists thinks it was necessary.

The most interesting fact is that the 1961 Constitution, prepared by the Junta, is the most democratic constitution in the history of Turkey. (with the help of civilian professors)

9:05 he was a grand grand grand son of ottoman vizier family (the koprulu)

I often wonder if something like this could happen in the modern age, in western countries as well.

@sahhaf1234

2 жыл бұрын

It happened... Norway executed its prime minister after ww2, together with 50 other politicians... france executed 10,000 of its people with very little or no trial within one year after ww2. western countries generally exact a much more heavy penalty for treason, compared to the east...

Nobody: Turkish Army: C O U P T I M E

Where the other videos u promised about Indonesia????

Wow

Dang I though we were talking Star Wars

If only the military of Myanmar was that caring about restoring democracy...

@EdMcF1

2 жыл бұрын

They are doing it very carefully, making sure every coat of paint has fully dried before finishing the job. And they have lots and lots of paint.

@Game_Hero

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 Yeah, suurreee.....human civilians lifes being the paint part

@Game_Hero

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdMcF1 And the opposition from a nation seeing its democracy before its eyes unilateraly overthrown by some colonels that were already suffocating the state from doing its job to keep Myanmar being their backyard, free to pillage and selling out to the Superpower next door as a colony.

how that raid shadow legends pp be tastin like doe

Menderes also threatened İnönü with death penalty in 1958

👍

South Koreans was in from the start, Turks from the second, Greeks from the third and last was Chileans.

Most people have no idea of the political scene in Turkey. The Ataturk revolution was of elite intellectuals. These came from the Army's Young Turks. When the Republic was formed Ataturk made his officers choose either military or civil life. The majority of the Turks were under educated, often illiterate and devout Muslims. Menderis got his support from this majority who were used to and expected strong leaders and had no democratic desires. Those who stayed in the military supported the Kemalist Republican and democratic ideals and exerted much power in country. When Menderis went too far, they removed him, banned his party, hung him and created a new constitution with more safe guards. Demeral, who was part of the banned party, renamed it and became Prime Minister. When he started taking anti democratic action, the military deposed him, banned his party and put him under house arrest. Since Demeral hadn't had anyone killed, he wasn't hung. Eventually Demeral renamed the party and became Prime Minister again. As if this wasn't enough, the whole scenario repeated again, except this time put term limits on prime Minister and president. When Demeral renamed the party for the third time, he maxed out as Prime Minister and then as President. After a while the current Erdogan took power and he went after the Kemalist Gauardian elements as 1st priority. There was no one to with power to oppose him.

@idrisemregoncu4220

2 жыл бұрын

Military did not depose Demirel for being authoritarian. Contrarily, he got couped two times since military found him "too soft" to contain political violance at that time

@eyupsultangonderen1847

Жыл бұрын

You said that the Muslims are ignorant, but I speak as a Turk (I am not an enemy of Atatürk). Atatürk is perhaps the most deified historical figure at the moment.You will understand when you come to Turkey, you hear this word a lot, for example. Atatürk is the greatest person There are even those who worship Atatürk's statue. In fact, according to them, there is not even a fault of Atatürk. They praise Atatürk one day, but on days like the conquest of Istanbul or the victory of Manzikert, there is not so much praise. For example, they say that women were given the right to be elected, but even then there was no election, isn't it illogical, and there are those who try to make Atatürk a Muslim, whereas Atatürk himself says that he is not a It is protected by law. It was a problem for a while to criticize Atatürk, when you criticize you are treated like a traitor.

About the Turkish Communist Party, he is now good friends with the Greek Communist Party. The two sides had cooperative activities, and he is the ruling party in a Turkish city. about the Korean War, all countries that provided troops to the United States in the Korean War get. benefited. In addition to Turkey, Ethiopia also So do 。Japan did not provide troops for the United States in the Korean War and the Korean War, but the United States has always loved Japan, which is really great love

@user-cx1ki8li4t

2 жыл бұрын

Japan did not provide troops for the United States in the Korean War and the Vietnam War 跟读

@shahfdx

2 жыл бұрын

Ok aku

15:03

I performed excessively brutal debriefing on the like and subscribe buttons

@TheCimbrianBull

2 жыл бұрын

And the two buttons signed a paper stating that it was an entirely voluntary process.

@greenkoopa

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCimbrianBull of course it was voluntary, we aren't commies 🇺🇸

Kinda disappointed by not mentioning US involvement on Turkish Coups

I wonder to what extent America was really involved. They certainly got wind of it and let it happen, at the very least. Was that soviet loan really a threat to NATO, given Turkey's commitment to the west ?

@alperozturk4575

2 жыл бұрын

In those days, secular and kemalist officers made up the majorty of the army and there was no need the interference of the Us, because Turkish Armed Forces had enough power to take action, they were only suppose to take an approval from the Us. As for the loan, it was a major problem for the Us, because amid the tension of the cold war, every single positive step into Sscb, esspecialy a step taken by a country like Turkey that has a strategic location in the region, was unacceptible for the Us.

@steppenwolf5956

Ай бұрын

@@alperozturk4575 die Armeeführung war der verlängerte Arm der USA. Hinter jedem Putsch in TR steckte die USA, zuletzt in 2016

Why is there no development in this matter? This cold war is consuming and consuming the energy of the people.

ohh god I like this channel but RAID really.

Operation Urgent Fury (1983)

"a veneer of democracy is presented" not true... the main problem in turkey was threefold: 1) the "democratically elected" governments in turkey had a tendency to turn dictatorial.. 2) they sometimes can attempt dangerous foreign policy adventures.. 3) they are invariably corrupt and very nepotist.. the soldiers effectively put limits on 1) and 2) but rarely interfered with 3).. I grew up in 70's and 80's. it was completely free to criticize the government. There was a complete freedom of opinion and complete freedom of press.. The elections were open and free.. Prime ministers were generally the butt of the jokes.. Then, in 2000's the effect of the army is zeroed out.. Today, you cannot criticize the prime minister, or the ruling party. Many journalists cannot even produce negative news.. Even wikipedia was banned for a period..

any country have coup turkey first time

Democratization to receiving country meaning: austerity - and conditioning to US foreign policy - if not we (THE US) have the means

Can we finally have the missile crisis now?

@EU_Red_Fox

2 жыл бұрын

Time Ghosts actually did a full day by day series on that if you’re interested

Has anyone ever actually played raid shadow legends? They shouldn’t need to advertise this much

RAID SHADOW LEGENDS!!!

Damn, modern Turkish history is depressing af. We can still see the repurcussions of these events after more than 60 years later.

@CrazyHermitVizard

Жыл бұрын

No it’s actually not Turkey used to have the strongest growth in the 90 years between 1923 til 2013 after that someone screwed it up

@CrazyHermitVizard

Жыл бұрын

What people completely underestimate is the bad shape turkey used to be in the early 1923s literacy was comparable to India.

Talking about seamless add integration XD

For the Algorithm!

@TheCimbrianBull

2 жыл бұрын

For the Emperor!

Coup is necessity in 60's Turkey.

@steppenwolf5956

Ай бұрын

blödsinn

I'm pro-secular. If it took the military to enforce that, I'm not upset.

@SitzPinkler

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, that is what kemalists still think like that in Turkiye :)) but the problem is whenever you took action against those religious ppl in power, it creates more symphaty for them and gradualy they increase their popularity among the public and you end up with leaders like erdogan.

Its good to see a episode about '60 coup in Turkey but this video is pretty amateurish for a channel like yours. Super poor pronunciations, unrelated newspaper images etc. Hope to see better episodes from you! Keep your work, just polish it as much as possible.

Indo pak wars when ?

Ahahaha, what turkey needed was a RAID shadow legends?!

As a Turkish, I found this video very simplified but quite accurate on general. The details like the fractions in the group of soldiers who organized the coup was also quite interesting and these could have been mentioned in a more detailed way in the video. So portraying Turkish army as a pro-western as a whole is not true, there were left wing leaning actors in the army as well and they were in continuous power struggle with the pro-nato right wing actors.

A Turkish coup... also called, "Thursday".

@christopherconard2831

2 жыл бұрын

Wait until he starts covering Africa during the late 60's and 70's. We get to try and keep up on who's joining the Coup of the Week Club.

@mikebaker2436

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherconard2831 Oh, I know. 🙃 Liberia... yeesh. Kind of messy transition.

As a Turkish speaker the pronunciation is funny and painful

Sounds like the Turkish government should have just played Raid: Shadow Legends and then this whole thing wouldn’t have happened smh.

Indeed, the people's energy is being drained because of that cold war .We must find a solution to these depletions.

Why is there no strong development in quelling that war, the people since 1960 while they are in that suffering?

Not raid….

Is anyone else so very tired of Star Wars references

Garbage game pays the bills - the story of our time 😂

It is a sad thing that the turkish republic never became stable. This continues even to this day.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

2 жыл бұрын

It was born out of a military coup against its own government held together only by sheer will...

@SitzPinkler

Жыл бұрын

It is the most stable republic around the region -except the EU member states.

@AlexanderBogdanow

Жыл бұрын

@@SitzPinkler Congrats... You contradicted yourself in a spectacular fashion

@SitzPinkler

Жыл бұрын

@@AlexanderBogdanow nope you just must have some difficulties to process the arguments in your brain

@extragoogleaccount6061

Жыл бұрын

@@SitzPinkler Depends on if you are considering their "general area" as the middle east or Europe. Compared to middle eastern countries it is super stable. But not so compared to Europe. In terms of the republic. (Since obviously they have an authoritarian in power).

And this #coup is #sponsor by #waffles.... Lol jk

Haha, raid shadow legends

Unless u want to o... Jk

why is the parliament in istanbul if the capital is ankara and where is the presidential palace

@toggafamai4224

2 жыл бұрын

Both are in Ankara

@yaboiarchy9718

2 жыл бұрын

Both are in Ankara, the sentence is wrong.

🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@saritorbanizgeldi9875

2 жыл бұрын

🕶💪