I've always thought the problem with a double barrel shotgun was all the efficiency and versatility.

Semi automatic with only two rounds capacity. So it is capable of doing the exact same thing as a double barrel but with significantly more complexity and chance for malfunction. Excellent!!

@archimaede

6 жыл бұрын

NEVER NEEDS CLEANING!

@millroll97

6 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Just like the early M16's!! How could it possibly go wrong haha

@michaelmurphy9972

6 жыл бұрын

Funny

@0604H

5 жыл бұрын

bUt ItS liGhTeR 😂😂 Such a nice shotgun but only 2 shots killed it 😂

@phillipcastro2394

5 жыл бұрын

Who ever made this thing should be beat with it

"The world's lightest shotgun" I could feel my shoulder being dislocated just from the sound of those words.

@overlorddante

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr? Something like a shotgun benefits from weight. Takes some kick out of the kick.

@jt0n

3 жыл бұрын

if i tried to fire this i'd be launched into the air

@ramz16k

3 жыл бұрын

C r a c k

@overlorddante

3 жыл бұрын

@Roderick storey you'd want more weight towards the front to help with recoil.

@shilohstore6086

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Is it just me, or does it look like that shotgun was designed to have a magazine and they changed their minds at the last minute?

@swedneck

3 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering the same thing, it seems like it would actually be somewhat useful if it had a magazine

@ikanberapi2189

3 жыл бұрын

And it becomes Spas-12 and AA-12

@willaimwinchell1813

3 жыл бұрын

This shotgun looks like a aluminum barreled Remington 1100, 2 rounds, mine holds 10 rds.

@sevilleandcoarthouse2960

2 жыл бұрын

"Hey Charles" "Yeah? " "You gonna put the magazine tube on the shotgun or... " "Nah, I'm just gonna give it two shots and say it's the shotgun of the future! " "Oh... Ok! :3"

@lindboknifeandtool

Жыл бұрын

I can think up ways you could make a magazine

We have seen many different versions of Ian over the years. Civil War Ian, Secret WWI Agent Ian, etc. But this iteration is my favorite so far........Aluminum Salesman Ian.

@nuttex

6 жыл бұрын

Gangsta Ian with a Jennings 9 is my favourite iteration of Ian.

@borisbuliak3626

6 жыл бұрын

I dunno die CIA pig kinda took the cake for me.

@chriscontact5857

5 жыл бұрын

Tin Men

@Rickmon01

4 жыл бұрын

Aluminum gun Jesus of tomorrow

@williestyle35

4 жыл бұрын

Now we have "cold war spy" ( 007 ) Ian. See: InRangeTV , 007

"Never needs cleaning!" damn you armalite. fool me once...

@BType13X2

5 жыл бұрын

I heard that a bunch of young men in south east asia in the late '60s were told the same thing.

@superBAkid

5 жыл бұрын

BType13X2 *rolling stones starts playing*

@TheCaptainSplatter

5 жыл бұрын

@@BType13X2 beat me to it.

@HunterHerbst

5 жыл бұрын

Ha, more like **CCR starts playing**

@davidkerr4374

4 жыл бұрын

@@BType13X2 From what I heard it was to do with the ammo it used at the time. During my days in the territorial's. I could train and use the M16a2 or the FN50 slr. The 16 would jam. Never had a problem with the slr.

> 2 round capacity > Cumbersome reload Amazing combination

As soon as I heard aluminum I thought of the airmen revolver which doubles as a personal disfigurement device

"Oh I have an idea! Let's make a gun with a complexity of an automatic and the capacity of a double barrel!"

@bob445566DE

6 жыл бұрын

Like the Beretta UGB 25

@scottdpugnificent

5 жыл бұрын

The full auto slam fire single shot terminator is probably worse.

@lyokianhitchhiker

4 жыл бұрын

Again: combat coach gun is not a good idea.

@adventure95004

4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Most states have a 3 round limit for a hunting shotgun and lot of shotguns come with a plastic rod to limit the amount of cartridges you can get in the tube specifically for hunting, I'm sure this was part of the thought process designing this not as a combat shotgun.

@roryross3878

4 жыл бұрын

@@adventure95004 Sure, but there's no 3rd round.

Was so excited.... Then he said “2 round capacity” It just got worse and worse from there

@borismuller86

6 жыл бұрын

WarMonger Airsoft surely it could have had a magazine...?

@warmongerairsoft

6 жыл бұрын

Boris Müller you mean like an adapter?

@borismuller86

6 жыл бұрын

WarMonger Airsoft would that work with that feeding system?

@warmongerairsoft

6 жыл бұрын

Boris Müller dunno, maybe. You’d probably have to get rid of that bar that holds the reserve round

@factsnotfeelings4901

6 жыл бұрын

u realize this is to kill birds or clay?

That's just a double barrel shotgun with extra steps

@cmonkey63

4 жыл бұрын

Rick Sanchez agrees

@CarMad97ci

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha

@guypierson5754

3 жыл бұрын

Scrolled down to write this exact thing. Nice one :D

@overlorddante

3 жыл бұрын

@@cmonkey63 ✊ my man

@JohnSmith-xv2ob

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking... Why not just make a double barrel???

"What gun do you own" "An ar17" "An ar15...?" "No"

@cherrypepsi2815

3 жыл бұрын

@Die Kista sorry lol

@user-tc5br2wx8f

3 жыл бұрын

Both y'all stfu I'm trying to watch TV.

@cherrypepsi2815

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-tc5br2wx8f Lmao just turn off notifications or make it not vibrate lmao

@anunnakipropaganda9991

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-tc5br2wx8f have you turned off your notifications yet?

@ther6sshieldmain937

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-tc5br2wx8f yeah have you?

Hard to load, two round capacity, cheap looking plastic furniture, aluminum barrel, and kicks like a mule? I can't imagine why these weren't a commercial success.

@kevinsullivan3448

6 жыл бұрын

Would be cool for a collect5ion, though. And to squik your tough guy friends bt tricking them into shooting it.

@zevo9314

5 жыл бұрын

to be fair... considering it hadnt been done before, i'm guessing they underestimated how much it would kick, and how many rounds people put through a shotgun in one sitting. their goal was to make the lightest shotgun possible, and you could say they did that. and the cheap plastic furniture was a compromise made on quite a few guns of that era to save on weight, and polymer wasnt really a thing in guns yet, so i'll even give them a pass on that. but an over engineered semi auto platform with less functionality than a double barrel, thats not forgivable. hell they coulda made the exact same aluminum frame and barrel with plastic furniture on a double barrel and done better

@AM-hf9kk

4 жыл бұрын

@@zevo9314 Give it a removable box magazine and it would be a hit with today's tactical community.

@CThyran

4 жыл бұрын

@@AM-hf9kk Until they break their shoulders that is.

@garymckee8857

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I would have bought two of them.

"Never needs cleaning!" Yeah, because no one ever bothered to put more than 50 rounds through it.

@alperakyuz9702

4 жыл бұрын

Oof

@abdinboni2246

4 жыл бұрын

@g % fax

@johnsonp.

4 жыл бұрын

g % would still build up schmoo from firing

@readcrafter8288

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnsonp. AVE or just Canadian?

@johnsonp.

4 жыл бұрын

Read crafter AVE

"Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

@raycearcher5794

4 жыл бұрын

You FEEL awesome though. It's psychological.

@blokemelon277

4 жыл бұрын

Rayce Archer its a metal gear reference

@therunningidiot

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you're planning to auction it off... HEY, wait a minute!

@captainbodyshot2839

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty good

@InvidiousIgnoramus

4 жыл бұрын

It's a nice gun, I'll give you that.

When you make the "shotgun of tomorrow," but it's California compliant before that's even a thing.

@mustafaamin9516

4 жыл бұрын

Goattacular Truly ahead of its time

@klonoa450

4 жыл бұрын

God i hate my state for that shit

@MussaKZN

4 жыл бұрын

Red Engineer LOL even in Australia I can pick it up the same day if I’m early enough and that’s registered!!! HAHA that’s awesome!!!

@TeemoQuinton

4 жыл бұрын

@@klonoa450 As you should. Vote better

@TheUltimateWord

4 жыл бұрын

@@MussaKZN I live in Arizona, we can ask in with money, walk out with a gun and ammo. And we don't have to register shit, not even handguns. I love AZ

"Light" and "Shotgun" should never be used in the same sentence

@alphagt62

3 жыл бұрын

My uncle had a Remington 1100 shotgun with the fiberglass barrel. It was awesome! It actually had a thin steel sleeve in the fiberglass barrel, but I could shoot skeet better with that gun than my own! I’d give plenty to have that gun, my cousin lost it through some in-law family matters. I don’t know if it was as light as this AR shotgun? But it was light for a semi-auto shotgun.

@evoxis1058

3 жыл бұрын

"To safely shoot a shotgun, or any gun, you need light." Boom

So basically the most unnecessarily complex single barrel double barreled shotgun

@lordilluminati5836

6 жыл бұрын

at least it's light?

@borisbuliak3626

6 жыл бұрын

the 12 gauge recoil from that light rifle is hernia inducing.

@roryross3878

4 жыл бұрын

@Lee Joyner There is no magazine tube, so you would need to do a lot of redesigning and modification.

@magoshighlands4074

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, I can see why it would be appealing to competition shooters, as there are shotguns like it today, the idea is you have two rounds on tap, but only one barrel, which means you never have to account for the difference between the sights and the different barrels, which is one less thing to compensate and account for in your head

@houseofsolomon2440

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordilluminati5836 Too light. Recoil bad.

Fun fact: AR stands for Assault Rrrrhotgun.

@TankEpidemic

3 жыл бұрын

ruh roh

@NavySeal2k

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know, I heard the AR-15 was the predecessor of the BR-RRRT9000

@nowthatsjustducky

3 жыл бұрын

Good. Someone else already effectively pointed out the lack of sense in the AR designation of this shotgun.

@flinchfu

3 жыл бұрын

@@nowthatsjustducky It's a joke. If the name of the original manufacturer was Derptydoo, then it would probably be the DE-17, DE-10, DE-15, DE-24 etc.

@flinchfu

3 жыл бұрын

@@nowthatsjustducky The prefix "AR" really has nothing to do with assault OR rifle. It stands for Armalite.

"Never needs cleaning" That's what they said to the M16 rifle.

@dianelee2100

3 жыл бұрын

Try not cleaning a M16 ? YOU'LL BE STANDING THERE THROWING ROCKS AT YOUR ADVANCING ENEMY. LOL. SEMPER FI

@marc-andreservant201

3 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile the enemy has a sand-incrusted, mud covered AK and is punching 10 holes per second through you.

@johanrunfeldt7174

2 жыл бұрын

@@marc-andreservant201 That's a gun that never - well seldom, but you're not going to live that long in a combat environment - needs cleaning.

@NORTH_CAROLINA_REAPER

2 жыл бұрын

No, it malfunctioned because it had a change in powder that caused fowling.

@arandomperson5434

2 жыл бұрын

@@NORTH_CAROLINA_REAPER they also said that the original M16 was “self cleaning”

The sound of the bolt on the receiver makes my teeth itch

@Zellonous

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one who found it cringey

@wawazaza1785

4 жыл бұрын

I actually liked it

@johnleyva4619

4 жыл бұрын

It sounded fine to me

@zoroarka9969

4 жыл бұрын

The fact that teeth can itch terrifies me

@TomFromYoutube

4 жыл бұрын

It ain't the sound that does it. It's the drugs.

Almost like this this gun was tailor made to be viewed on Forgotten Weapons... Lol.

@karakas9905

4 жыл бұрын

They played the long game with this one.

@joshuacallahan570

4 жыл бұрын

no wonder its a forgotten weapon lol two shots in a semi auto wtf is the point

Armalite scrapped the box magazine idea when they realized how badly this gun bruised you with two shots.

@mohammadwaled409

Жыл бұрын

Maybe if they gave it a massive drum magazine that would've solved the lightness issue

Really awkward loading mechanism, Semi automatic, 2 round capacity... What.

@aurin_komak

4 жыл бұрын

It's like a double barrel, but more complex and harder to load

@dbmail545

4 жыл бұрын

At about a quarter of the price of a double gun or less

@HaveRandomQuestions

4 жыл бұрын

shut up and take my money 🙃

@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta admit ....I thought my goose/duck gun with 3 shells was odd! But of course your not allowed any more than that hunting,,so makes a little sense.

@The_Ballo

3 жыл бұрын

Only a skeet shooter would make a 1-round magazine. Incredible.

"Never needs cleaning" Because MAGIC!

@spacetrainbaby3737

4 жыл бұрын

It doesnt need cleaning because no one would ever use this

The man in the ad at 2:34 is actor Robert Stack, famous for his appearance in the film Airplane!, and many others. At one time he was shotgunning champion of the United States. This is a very rare though deeply flawed gun, thank you for showing it to us.

@Stoner075C

6 жыл бұрын

I shoulda read this before commenting, but my doubt is solved. Txs!!!

@robertkubrick3738

5 жыл бұрын

Guess you never heard of the Untouchables?

@Miles-Vincent

4 жыл бұрын

I thought that was him! Unsolved mysteries was the shiznit!!!

At first glance I thought "This looks like a toy." Then Ian began actually loading the thing and I thought "This IS a toy!"

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Might feel like a toy too lol

I had two thoughts upon rewatching this: 1. How securely is that second round held in place? It looks like it could shake loose during an active hunt. 2. There's nothing protecting that loading port from mud and dirt. Not a great feature for a gun marketed at waterfowl hunters.

@aurin_komak

4 жыл бұрын

nEvEr nEeDs cLeAniNg!

@jimjambananaslam3596

4 жыл бұрын

The mud and dirt is what holds the second round in. Duh.

@overlorddante

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimjambananaslam3596 that's why you never need to clean it, mud is a vital component.

@beartankoperator7950

3 жыл бұрын

@@overlorddante its a feature

No One Ever: I was kinda looking for an over priced automatic shotgun that 70 year old double barrel shotguns will laugh at. Armalite design team: Hold my beer.

@kaiza9184

6 жыл бұрын

Arbhall McDougall Hold my LIKE ! 😲

The nail-on-chalkboard sound the bolt carrier sliding on aluminum makes is excruciating.

@patricknapier1460

6 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of the sound when people bite their silverware

@skullhammer9899

6 жыл бұрын

Will kill it's target if the pellets don't

@amazinghuppifluppi359

4 жыл бұрын

Read your comment even before the sound comes in the video. Got so triggered, I even felt it in my teeth. This fragging sound of hell. Triggered me so much, I answer a 2 years old comment. Aaargh.

It looks beautiful. It seems like it was the inspiration for the golden Shotgun in Prey 2017. But also lol semiauto but 2 shot capacity. Yeah, the channel’s called “Forgotten Weapons”, and it turns out that a lot of these guns were forgotten for *damn good reason.*

@AshleyPomeroy

2 жыл бұрын

It strikes me that ArmaLite's fundamental problem was their top-down focus on lightness. Instead of asking shotgun shooters what they wanted and then designing a lighter gun that would meet those needs, they came up with this freak and then pushed it at people as the shotgun of the future.

FW: I wan't to say one word, Aluminum. Me, an Englishman: *drops monocle in tea

@qwertyqwerty6099

3 жыл бұрын

grins.. did you know that Aluminum didn't get its name by an American.. but a Brit.. Humphry Davy who named the stuff aluminum after his first proposal, alumium got rejected by contemporary chemists all over Europe.. then it changed back n forth a couple of times on both sides of the ocean n by both the public n scientific communities.. often scientists using one spelling n the public the opposite.. it's all quite silly..

@orsonincharge4879

3 жыл бұрын

I say

@ramz16k

3 жыл бұрын

ALOO-MINYUM

@dvkevin

3 жыл бұрын

@@qwertyqwerty6099 but no one says potassum or uranum... it's supremely silly imo.

@qwertyqwerty6099

3 жыл бұрын

@@dvkevin smiles.. blame the other scientists who rejected the name alumium..

You could say it's pretty Armalight

@lakewooded4929

6 жыл бұрын

You're right.

The heaviest part of this shotgun is the ammunition!

I used to hunt with a friend, a coworker in the 70s and used his AR17 a few times. He was pretty fast at loading a third round. But I recognized a two found shortcoming like an over/under or double (I think a double may be a bit faster). Lighter but recoiled more than my 870. I was issued a M16 in VN so I was used to weapons designed by the company. Thanks for the video.

This is the perfect gun for a Fudd who's a little semi-auto curious, but still needs his inferior shell capacity 'cause positive change frightens his feeble mind.

@The_Ballo

3 жыл бұрын

So...Joe Biden?

@joeysoxjr.6268

3 жыл бұрын

@@The_Ballo Lol

@Superabound2

3 жыл бұрын

Joe "Two Blasts" Biden

@falloutghoul1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Superabound2 All he needs is two.

@Ghost51492

3 жыл бұрын

Guys dont forget the first "shotgun blast" needs to be fired in the air as a warning.

Oof. That aluminum-and-spring squeak just gets right into your soul, doesn't it?

the sound of aluminum scraping against eachother. uuugh...

@Howdy762

4 жыл бұрын

same i had to stop cause of that

@foxxy46213

4 жыл бұрын

it sounds like the gat gun I had as a kid...you kno the one where you press the barrel on the ground to cock it an unscrew a pin at the back to put pellets in....loved my gat

@Proseless

4 жыл бұрын

needs *oil*

"Never needs cleaning!" Props to the marketing department 😂

"you see is it's called the ar 17 because it fits 17 rounds in its tube"

@robsciuk729

3 жыл бұрын

You mean it has one of those deadly '30 magazine clips' ? Oooooh ... scary !!

@tomf4122

3 жыл бұрын

it has a fully semi auto high capacity assault rifle magazine

@Journey_Awaits

3 жыл бұрын

Well that would give you a workout

@jacobiwolf77

3 жыл бұрын

@@Journey_Awaits look up the KSG 25 if you think that's heavy

@flamee23312

3 жыл бұрын

Prank’d

Its a pretty gun, but with only two rounds I cant imagine it sold all that well. Considering that double barrels...uh..exist.

@alaeriia01

6 жыл бұрын

Sir Slam Why is it always double barrels and not, say, triple barrels? I'm from Massachusetts, so I don't know these things.

@andreiarmasu285

5 жыл бұрын

@@alaeriia01 double barreled shotguns have a great balance between firepower weight and simplicity. Thats why they're more popular compared to single, triple and quadruple barreled shotguns

@hellishcyberdemon7112

5 жыл бұрын

@Bailey Washington I could smell and Ahoy comment from a mile away... good job bro

@FreeAimDog

4 жыл бұрын

double barrel is good for home defense choice. if someone is in your house you can just load 2 in the barrels and be ready and keep 5 shells in your pocket. i can imagine with any other it would take a bit more time to cock and load a shell in ect.

@overlorddante

4 жыл бұрын

@@FreeAimDog if there are 2 or more intruders that would be a terrible choice. Also if you're physically weaker, a normal shotgun wouldn't be the best choice. As for keeping shells in your pocket, good luck fishing those out when you're high on adrenaline and fine motor skills are out the window and you have 2 seconds before the intruder has a knife to your throat. There's a reason people like mag fed high capacity rifles/pistols for home defense.

A semi-automatic shotgun that has no magazine tube and relies on what is essentially ghost-loading to hold a second cartridge. All that to save 3lb on a Browning Auto-5.

@aspenfacer-valentine4397

6 жыл бұрын

You say that as if 3lbs isn't a significant amount of weight to shave... But yes it was overly complicated and needed more than 2 rounds to be viable. Perhaps the most-needed improvement was a way to control recoil better. If you've ever fired a light weight shotgun (Like an old single shot slug gun, probably the only gun I wouldn't regret selling) you'd know why the wood and steel models are still popular

@clothar23

6 жыл бұрын

Meh 3 lbs is not a whole lot, the Timberwolf I carry weighs 17lbs and I have no issues carrying it around all day. And I am not even that big of a guy. I never understood this lightweight cult some shooters belong to.

@chrismorse3862

6 жыл бұрын

+clothar23 guess you aren't that good at math, 3 lbs would not be a huge difference off of 17# but imagine if you shaved 10+ off of yours, I imagine you'd not only notice the difference, but it would make the performance significantly different than what you are used to

@samuraijack1996

6 жыл бұрын

John Browning was a smarter man

@kevinsullivan3448

6 жыл бұрын

Chris Morse That depends on what you are using your shotgun for. If all you do is trap, then you have no understanding of how a shotgun is really used.

“Finicky” is not a desirable characteristic in a firearm.

@philipbohi983

3 жыл бұрын

Except for Hi-Point, where it would be a dramatic improvement, from “unpredictable”.

@daleford8621

3 жыл бұрын

@@philipbohi983 eh, they're ok for about 500 rds or so, then they get pretty temperamental. But for less than $200 that's not so bad. Then you can always just beat your assailant to death with the poly brick lol.

@mchagnon7

3 жыл бұрын

Especially if you have to mess with that finnicky system twice as often as everyone else reloads.

A whole 2 round capacity, with a loading time that takes longer than a standard shotgun.

When the shotgun of the future has the same capacity as the shotgun of the 1870s, you know there is a problem.

Just an observation, but it almost looks like the AR-17 was going to take detachable box magazines, but was chucked at the last minute.

@ostiariusalpha

6 жыл бұрын

You are correct in that assessment.

@lsswappedcessna

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder if some Colin Furze of guns out there could reverse engineer it to take magazines like it was meant to.

@kaiserwigglesiii2369

5 жыл бұрын

I was looking through the comments for a "it can actually take a mag" comment, but didn't find one. I'll look it up

@visionist7

5 жыл бұрын

Nice 4 round mag plus one in the chamber

@jamesmonroe1538

5 жыл бұрын

@@ostiariusalpha Can you provide any link to some information on that?

"Never needs cleaning" on the advert kills me

Robert Stack at 2:34 held two world records for skeet, and was an American champion at 16: "Get that finger out of your ear! You don't know where that finger's been." (From the hilarious movie "Airplane!", with Leslie Nielsen).

If you're only going to have a 2 round capacity might as well just use a double barrel shotgun. Cheap, reliable, and virtually nothing that can go wrong with it.

@johncoursey2582

6 жыл бұрын

stilllife8 probably too heavy. I agree I'd rather just have a break barrel if I'm only getting two shots but I suspect a second barrel would make it impossible to market as "lightest shotgun in the world"

@jballew2239

6 жыл бұрын

The couple of people I knew who owned and shot these, used them exclusively for trap/skeet shooting. They loved how light and "pointable" they were. Having fired one, I found the recoil "snappy".

@robertkubrick3738

5 жыл бұрын

@@johncoursey2582 Lightest autoloading. Pick up a H&R single shot.

@trentrubenacker9718

4 жыл бұрын

@@jballew2239 Trap lends itself to a super light shotgun because it gets tiring to point the bitches after 100 shots. Trap uses a light shell. Wouldn't wanna hunt turkey with a light gun. 2 and 3/4 inch 7 or 8 shot doesn't kick that hard so this is about perfect for trap.

@georgesheffield1580

Жыл бұрын

Not necessarily cheep, maybe able to shoot steel or hard shot . Ballancewould be questionable especially compared to American overweight monsters . Light loads for snipe or quail Mayne.

Kinda amazing how far we've come in Shotgun tech since then. My Benelli Ethos weighs 7lbs, has room for 5+1 12 gague 2-3/4in shells, is recoil operated, and kicks like a 20 gague.

Now we know where Outer Worlds got their gun aesthetic.

This is by far one of my top favorite videos of all time of this channel for some reason. This gun and it’s history is so appreciatively toy gunnish, futurish, crazy!!👍👍👍👍

Man that'sa gorgeous shotgun, I want it Just saw the reloading procedure, now I don't want it 😂😂😂

@hanelyp1

5 жыл бұрын

They could have done that a lot better. Like, open a spring loaded hatch, drop in a shell, and it's ready for the shell to be chambered.

@Dovah22

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Dillard its more of a gun case shotgun to apreciate in value.

My father has a Noble 20 gauge pump shotgun that's all aluminum except for a couple of springs and I would imagine the firing pin. They were made for a company that made aircraft aluminum, just to be given away to people as demonstrations of the strength of the aluminum. It weighs about 3 1/2 pounds. I've never shot it but my father says heavy loads will bring tears to your eyes.

@Bill2Board

5 жыл бұрын

Tears of joy I hope?

@zevo9314

5 жыл бұрын

a heavy load can often bring tears to your eyes

@missano3856

5 жыл бұрын

I have a Ithaca 37 with an aluminum receiver and a hollow English style buttstock (which broke), 4.5 lbs even in 20 gauge it's not a nice shooting gun. It feels very "whippystabbypointy " rather than smooth swinging and kicks like a mule.

@toddpfennig1974

4 жыл бұрын

Had a Ithaca XL300 20 Gauge weighed 6.75 pounds. Perrrrrrrfect!!!

@wizardofahhhs759

4 жыл бұрын

I don't see the big deal as far as weight is concerned. I have a Benelli M2 that's mostly plastic and aluminum that only weighs around 6.5 lbs and chambered for 3" shells and I'm not recoil sensitive with any load, being thin and only weighing 150 lbs.

Awesome tactical battle engravings. Makes it even more tacticool.

I love your videos. Can't believe I have been a gun lover for years and how little I really knew about them. I was given a mint 1929 L.C. Smith trap single shot 12 gauge specialty grade Damascus steel first auto ejector gun. It cost twice the as much as a car in the time. America has made so beautiful weapons. Keep it up

The idea of of having only two shots that may or may not cycle when you need them too seems like an idea that never would have made it past the prototype stage

@PaulMauser

6 жыл бұрын

toomanyaccounts I don’t think there is a market for super light shotguns unless it’s being used for less lethal rounds or being carried pistol grip style on the back for breaching like in the marines.

@metamorphicorder

5 жыл бұрын

Its not really a gun intended for home defense or combat use. This would only really be used for recreational shooting and perhaps bird hunting. In those contexts, its not really a big deal. Youve plenty of time for a careful reload, and once loaded properly the cycling seemed pretty reliable. Adding some ballast to this so it swings decent would make it a pretty decent gun and make it a little more comfortable to shoot i think.

@robertkubrick3738

5 жыл бұрын

@@metamorphicorder Adding some ballast would make it as heavy as gas operated guns on the market...that can hold 5 rounds.

Needs no cleaning - Armalite An unsinkable ship - White Star Line 🤔

@jameshealy4594

6 жыл бұрын

Truth in advertising - Nobody ever

@marks_sparks1

6 жыл бұрын

James Healy "In advertising there's no such things as lies - just expedient exaggerations" Roger O. Thornhill (Cary Grant), North by Northwest

@jameshealy4594

6 жыл бұрын

Nice quote, calling a ship "Unsinkable" is certainly quite the exaggeration! "Advertising is legalized lying" - H. G. Wells

@ThZuao

5 жыл бұрын

The Olympic literally had a warship designed to ram other ships crash into it's stern section and it kept afloat. That hapened while Titanic was still on the warf. The "Unsinkable" bit was how Olympic was hailed by the Press, not White Star Line, but they did cashed in on the free publicity. Who wouldn't? Since Titanic and Brittanic were pretty much the same design, the fame carried over. Everyone knows what happened to Titanic, but Brittanic struck a mine during WWI and sunk because people opened the portholes and water poured in through otherwise watertight compartments. If it wasn't for that, the ship could have survived the breached compartments and the bulkhead doors that stuck open. The original "Unsinkable" Olympic went ahead to serve until the Great Depression made it unprofitable to operate, then it was sold for scrap in 1935. During that time, it earned the nickname "Old Reliable" in WWI after ramming and sinking a german U-boat. During the dismantling of the hull, the dent of a torpedo that failed to detonate was discovered.

@TruthNerds

4 жыл бұрын

@@ThZuao Interesting stories from you and Greg Gallacci. I was thinking of the "unbreakable" Enigma machine, by the way, and it is believed that the plugboard version, with proper operating procedures, would actually not have been breakable, at least with the technology available to the Allies. So, same difference… a good technology used wrongly with disastrous results.

"So 3.25 shells are the standard ammunition." "Hmm. I think just under 5 pounds would be the optimal weight, oh and they should all have aluminum barrels too."

This was the shotgun of the future like how Dippin’ Dots are the ice cream of the future. ...I wish it was.

@marcussmart7673

3 жыл бұрын

I would believe it was the ice cream of the future if it floated in air till then I'm not convinced haha

@jdisdetermined

3 жыл бұрын

Can you still find the occasional Dippin' Dots cart at shopping malls today? I haven't been in a mall for over a decade so I haven't seen one in forever.

@marcussmart7673

3 жыл бұрын

@@jdisdetermined huh I just gargled dipping dots and I found out there's 2 places still serving in my town. There is a store locator on their website. Who'd of thunk.

@zachprouty8595

3 жыл бұрын

Dippin dots are the stuff

@chuckhotze9141

3 жыл бұрын

O.K. Election Madness has reached its peak. Yup....That's The Ticket... FIRST....you THROW exactly TWO of the Dippin' Dots up in the SKY...so that NO loved and protected A.S.P.C.A. friendly Clay Pigeons will be harmed. Then you shoulder a TWELVE GAUGE SHOTGUN with a near exact match for the Mattel Fan-ner 50 weight ~ toy gun in an effort to show off ~ for your Bobbie Sock wearing 2964 vintage, steady girl and in a nano-second you get the blazes kicked out of your shoulder. I suspect that its hair trigger will allow for a really rapid Double Tap of 12 ga. 2 3/4" (probably # 9 shot) shells.... And there we have the story of how your "Meet George Jetson"... AR-17 Costa Mesa, CA. made shotgun of tomorrow ~ stands ready no doubt, in 2020 and beyond - to launch ONLY California approved Tungsten and Non-Toxic Hevi-Hammer and Winchester Blind Side shells for you. Is that about it????

"Transparent aluminum?!" "Aye. That's the ticket lad..."

@matohibiki

6 жыл бұрын

Wait, you can't just give him the formula like that.

@611_hornet5

6 жыл бұрын

"Why? How do we know he didn't invent the thing?"

@tikkidaddy

5 жыл бұрын

@@611_hornet5 Well its obvious these guys didnt😃have the ticket...

@TheBigern22

4 жыл бұрын

Hello computer

@morganrobinson8042

4 жыл бұрын

Actually, we have that now.

The add at 2:32 never needs cleaning that worked out for the m16

@clothar23

6 жыл бұрын

The M16 ran just fine on decent ammo . Ya use the welfare crap the US Army was in the early stages of Vietnam sure there is going to be problems. But ya can say that about every firearm ever made mate. The M16's has overblown service and maintenance issues, perturbed by useless Soviet fanboys.

@phille7669

6 жыл бұрын

Every gun needs to be cleaned and they were advertising it never needs cleaning, WHY SO SERIOUS?

@williestyle35

4 жыл бұрын

I would not put that on Armalite. They never said the AR - 15 did not need cleaning. Neither did Colt when the got the rights to manufacture the M16. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/fq2M0MZ8qNGfe5c.html

A gem for collectors and tru al it’s shortcomings aesthetically pleasing.

love your videos dude always end up on this channel somehow but never disappointed, really great knowledge on all these weapons

How to take a great product idea and absolutely destroy its marketability: limit a semiauto shotgun to 2 rounds capacity.

@franciszhao6923

6 жыл бұрын

you know whats weird is that it probably wouldn't even have been that hard to make this ting magazine fed

@asfvdbgsdh

6 жыл бұрын

Sam Maill no We can have 3. 1 in the pipe 2 in the mag

@lsswappedcessna

5 жыл бұрын

It seems like it was supposed to originally take a magazine. The action looks similar to the ones used in semi-auto handguns and rifles.

@theprojectproject01

5 жыл бұрын

3 is all you're allowed for hunting waterfowl. And if you need more than that for pheasant or grouse, then you need more range time, not capacity.

@seanlewis66

5 жыл бұрын

Well it was made in California

"Never needs cleaning!" Yeah just like how the m16 never needed cleaning.

@JerryEricsson

5 жыл бұрын

I got out of the Army in 1978, after 8 years service, and even now, some 40 years later, I think I could still take down an M-16 and clean it so well my Drill Sergeant would pass it on his first white glove inspection!

@AveryBlueRemix

5 жыл бұрын

Jerry Ericsson I can flip a pancake pretty well...

@karlt8233

5 жыл бұрын

When the M16 first went to Vietnam for combat trials they did not ship with a cleaning kit because during the testing phase stateside it was ran for x-thousands of rounds without cleaning, so they assumed it would perform the same way under combat trials. Before the combat trials were complete they rushed cleaning kits to Vietnam along with comic strip training manuals on how to properly clean the M16. Two things caused issues in Vietnam. 1st was powder type being used in the original 5.56mm loads but that took a little while to "fix". 2nd was the environment being used in, close tolerance guns do not fare well in jungle environments and when combined with excessively dirty ammo powders the failure rate was pretty high.

@jefflemaster2850

5 жыл бұрын

@Karl T I believe that the originals also specs called for chrome linings in the bore and bolt carrier. The Administration at the time thought it was too costly and cut that from some early production guns.

@nickhowatson4745

4 жыл бұрын

Karl T it was a myth that soldiers were told the m-16 didn’t need to be cleaned. It was probably a rumor started by the troops. Cleaning kits were issued but usually lost.

Fascinating. Definitely a forgotten weapon. Thanks Ian.

Held one in my hands today. It was beautiful!

"The idea of having a fancy gold-colored gun really was an interesting and novel thing." So basically, it was the gold-colored iPhone of guns?

@ThePandoraGuy

6 жыл бұрын

Yupp.

@lsswappedcessna

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks nice, but has German car levels of overengineering and in the end is only capable of two useful things, those being how many times it can shoot without being reloaded. A double-barrel shotgun is easier. and can do the same thing. They're quicker to reload, too.

@visionist7

5 жыл бұрын

But back then, only 1200 folks were fooled, unlike Apple's armies of fidels

@TruthNerds

4 жыл бұрын

Funny, but most people agree that the iPhone is a good phone, except for the price. The action on this thing, on the other hand, looks rather goofy. I guess it was originally designed to be used with a detachable box magazine but regulations killed that idea. I may be wrong…

"Just one word..." "Plastics?" "Aluminum." I'm sad now. I find it very interesting that it seems like most of the problems with this gun was in the usage, not the gun itself despite being such a radical concept as an all aluminum gun. Very cool.

@operator6438

6 жыл бұрын

Baylor Blackwell Yep I pretty sad....I think its gold

Media: "the ar 15 is evil" Wait till they find out about the sequel, the ar 17 😳

That ribbed rod in the hand guard just brought me back to robotics. They (or an item very much like it) were used as field pieces and sometimes structural bits. We called them churros

"Never needs cleaning!" because it'll break before it does!

@austinslaughter319

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking those exact words.

@hackdeez1075

4 жыл бұрын

It's like lifetime transmission fliud

A golden aluminium shotgun? Shorten the barrel, get some dragon breath shells and you got a cyberpunk weapon.

@darkblood626

6 жыл бұрын

Glue random cogs onto it and you got a steampunk shotgun

@uthertheking

6 жыл бұрын

I feel like I got this as a skin for pre-ordering a game.

@awnzotheman

6 жыл бұрын

Shorten barrel, dragon breath shells, holy water. Holy Shotgun?

@KrimsonBeat

6 жыл бұрын

Someone’s been playing too many video games.

@chitoryu12

6 жыл бұрын

Forgotten Weapons did a video on a gun exactly like that, the Winchester Liberator.

Once again a rare and interesting firearm, well done video is appreciated.

I could see field loading with cold hands being fun.

@2:39 I see the idiot who said the ar-15 didn't need cleaning kits was also in charge of advertising for this gun

@exploatores

6 жыл бұрын

it might have worked if some other idiot decided to change gunpowder with out informing those who told the military that it didn´t need cleaning kits.

@aspenfacer-valentine4397

6 жыл бұрын

Exploatores What? Are you saying the powder was the only reason you need to clean an AR?

@exploatores

6 жыл бұрын

Is one of the major reasons, they, a southasian jungle is another reason. but in a dry test inviroment with a clean gunpowder you i don´t know what else they should clean of.

@williestyle35

4 жыл бұрын

That "idiot" did not work on the AR - 15 or the Colt M16. Both said that all M16's should be issued with cleaning kits. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/fq2M0MZ8qNGfe5c.html

@LordVader1094

4 жыл бұрын

@@williestyle35 T H A N K Y O U

And according to that magazine cover at 2:31, it never needs cleaning. Just like the AR15 never needs cleaning.

Hi, Ian. Another old video. I like the looks of this shotgun, even though it is too flashy. If it was done in steel with a magazine, I think it would have been a success. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!

This thing is beautiful. Having no 'necessary' structural mass, means you have the opportunity to add mass wherever you need it and get the balance where you want it. Instead of being too light, the inertia is completely tuneable.

Holy crap costa mesa? That's my home town. Nothing ever comes out of costa mesa so that's a pretty neat little detail.

Seeing the dummy rounds in "action" really improves the demo.

@ToastyMozart

6 жыл бұрын

It really does. It'd be nice if he managed to find a variety pack of snap-caps in the semi-obscure chamberings that a lot of the weirder stuff he covers used, being able to see some of the more unique actions in... well... *action* would be super cool. I'd probably just 3D print some and send them in if he had a PO box.

I recognize this design philosophy, I've known it as 'Let's Change Everything', aka reinventing the wheel. Armalite clearly were so focused on making the 'shotgun of the future' that they didn't think about the fact that the shotguns of the present were the shotguns of the future to the past- and they were made by slowly iterating and improving on proven designs.

my stoeger m3000 had a rotating bolt as well. inertia driven system. man i miss that thing. so smooth

What a beautiful, pointless gun.

@dwsimmy2599

5 жыл бұрын

Is it? Between the champagne-tinted aluminum and dollar-store-capgun furniture, I think this thing looks tacky as hell. The engraving is nice, but not anything special.

@JJones-cl4dm

5 жыл бұрын

pointless definitely beautiful in not so sure

@jasonarmstrong5750

5 жыл бұрын

It’s essentially the gun equivalent of a “wall hanger”

@Elenrai

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonarmstrong5750 Its a gun for bad hunters that never got a stag head to mount above the fireplace, so instead they hang up the gun :)

@cat-shapedtopiary9123

5 жыл бұрын

@@Elenrai Username out of 10

Now I'll have "Mrs. Robinson" running through my head the rest of the day. Thanks a lot.

The magazine cover with the AR-17 shows it being held by actor Robert Stack, who was also a national champion skeet shooter.

My brother had one of these for a bit. It was indeed extremely light and handy, but damn when you put heavy duck loads in it. It would kick like you owed it money.

I know of at least one commercially successful aluminum shotgun, the Franchi 48AL series. My daughter is fairly slight of build, so when she expressed an interest in shooting clays, we went shotgun hunting. We looked at almost every youth shotgun on the market and found none that met her need for left-eye dominant friendly, light, shortish barrel, and 20 gauge. Then we had a chance for her to shoot a Franchi 48AL20. Although the LOP was too long, it met all the other requirements. Fixing the LOP, however, required my making a custom rear stock (for me not a big deal as I repair shotguns and do restocking as a side gig, and yes, I hold an 01 FFL). So she got a custom, adjustable, walnut rear stock 20 gauge that tips the scale shy of seven pounds (I guess 6lb., 12 oz.). An unplanned benefit was the shorter, but heavier rear stock changed then center of balance in a way that actually improved the balance. A quick check online shows they are still available, seven years after I bought hers.

This actually wouldn't be a bad idea to revisit provided it have a box-fed magazine and a heavier chromoly barrel.

@hammermantbg

4 жыл бұрын

Both of these things you say are completely possible to do because the barrel is simply threat it on and it looks pretty easy to add a magazine system it loads from the bottom like a magazine-fed shotgun a lot like the new Saiga 12

This guy and The Report of the Week... Different animal same beast.

AR-17 just sounds awesome. The bolt reminds me of the Winchester 1300.

The gun of the future, with a two round capacity. Even though back in 1897, Winchester could sell you a... Winchester 1897, with a six round capacity.

@robertkubrick3738

5 жыл бұрын

Please! 1893

@the_burger

5 жыл бұрын

1887

Fantastic video, Ian. I always figure there’s nothing else that could intrigue me in the firearms world but you always find something unique.

"I just wanna say one word to you... Aluminum" That was the worst word you coulda said.

Just got one today. Can't wait to test it

Those who forget the future are doomed to repeat it.

Ian didn't mention this, but the AR-17 receiver, BCG, and recoil system are based almost directly on Eugene Stoner's first conception of the AR-10. In fact, you can check it out right in the illustrative art for the direct impingement patent that ArmaLite sold to Colt (US2951424), it surprisingly is not the AR-10/AR-15 layout that you would expect to see. From the details of the 1957 ArmaLite action plan, they would have produced a semi-automatic, direct-impingement shotgun under the model designation AR-9 (and a sporter rifle with the same layout to be called the AR-14). But since the patent was sold to Colt, the DI gas system was no longer available to ArmaLite, and so they used this more conventional short recoil operation to create the AR-17. You can also see in the unusual 2-shot feed system, the remnant of the detachable box magazine that would slot into that area. Perhaps if the AR-17 had been more of a commercial success, they would have introduced a higher capacity magazine model.

Looks like a good baseline for implementing a magazine feed system!

1:29 " *THISSS* is a 1964 ArmaLite AR-17, an all-alluminum self-loading, and today i'm gonna review it "