I feel the 1st operator that stated this trend was Mountain. He completely broken his own archetype and I think it's pretty fun. The way I see it instead of arknights feeling like you're playing chess with all your ops. The pieces (pawns, knights, kings) will all feel like a board of queens.

@rafliyaumil8812

Ай бұрын

Tbf. Mountain is good because he ignores his own archetype. He is a centurion in disguise instead of becoming a normal brawler.

at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they released Frostleaf Alter with Frostnova skill set + freeze mechanic.

@Dark-Frostleaf

Ай бұрын

This would start a war in the community

4:01 Pudding S2 can indeed bounce to the same target. Duelist defenders have a module that essentially removes their blocking SP requirement. Arguably, the best hexer is a decel binder (Suzuran). Morgan is an interesting one with the musha's Tenacity, but on a dreadnought guard. Sometimes they break the rules in stupid ways like Tomimi doing physical, or Minimalist completely ignoring the drone portion of being a drone caster. Though, I suppose Eyja being a single-target caster with AoE skills essentially does invalidate the branch of actual AoE casters. Walter's kit is undoubtedly overloaded, but so was Silverash, Surtr, Chalter, and Mlynar on release. They're still strong, but they were never actually necessary to clear content. They're convenient for casuals or newer players to borrow, though, which I think also has a place in the game.

"give me an operator that can be deployed on ground tile despise being a mélée" Pallas/Doberman with module: ...

@Dark-Frostleaf

Ай бұрын

Ah yes they do in fact do that. I really have to use an instructor at one point in this game

@harunammie4898

Ай бұрын

Bro forgor about Doc from RS6 collab

Honestly, with the mechanics of the second rotation map of this cc, i kind of hope they'll release more of mobs with innate "can only be damaged by blocker" kind of thing and top it off with reduction in block number of the blocker. Thus, you can't kill them with ranged (nullifying shit like walter and chalter) and even can't kill them with texalter, surtr and yatoalter (since they both become 0 block against such enemies). And suddenly, we got maps which can't be speedrun like what we have now. 😂

@Mushabeans

Ай бұрын

It's funny how that mechanic was duelist croc's ability from gavial event which is from an event right after 1st anni and somehow hasn't seen any return except from this cc. Honestly quite a fun mechanic to make duelist type ops having more usage

Yeah Ulpianus is pretty strong, but imo it doesn't change the fact that his mechanic look really fun to play around with, he is more then just a delete button.

@Nazuiko

Ай бұрын

Ulpianus is a Guilty Gear character and yknow what, i love them

3:42 there's a LOT of characters that do not normally attack Air but their skills can without the mention of it in the skill description. Main cases are Mlynar (entire archetype is ground, even people where surprised S3 attacks air) and Degenbrecher. It is actually mentioned in PRTS remarks. It's not abnormal for characters to break away from archetype weakness, usually the 6*s do it and it is pretty normal/common. As for Logos, he was a much needed powercreep. Eyja dominated the meta for FIVE years! The fact it took this long is impressive in its own, every caster found a new niche they shine in. Eyja afk skills are still comparable to logos, although he is superior due to delta mod (for now) Thankfully, there are a lot of people clearing content with day 1 ops with low to no issues, which shows that even with powercreep you can still play the game just fine. My only issue with powercreep is that it tends to come alongside some uninspired kits, i'm all for unique and strong (Shu and Ray for example) but just big number and being obviously designed as an "upgraded" version of an old operator is just boring, cases such as Degenbrecher (irene/chen) and Mlynar (silverash) I think the power level of 6*s should be around Ray~Zuo le for the next few months for a healthy game progression, it isn't new that we get a new game breaking character and we start forgetting about them in 2-3 years (Best example: Thorns, Surtr, Chalter, Pozemka and the list goes on) and funnily enough, i tend to go back to my blaze/mudrock combo despite 3-4 years of their release, even in today's stages.

@luchin7742

Ай бұрын

I forgot to mention, Ela has got to be the most boring-designed kit to ever exist. Her S3 is literally Ash S2 but with extra flashy bombs. Just AA sniper with big DPH

@coralreef6298

Ай бұрын

Degen is actually shocking.. the way she completely spits on Chen and Irene with her non offensive recovery skill is just disrespectful

The Mechanics that I want to see is an operator that a new archetype to be fair that has a trait that can be deployed on ground and ability to get to the range tile. Similar to the Pusher, Puller and Ela. But with a twist that it have different range when on the ground and high tile. The other one is the damage base type they bring similar to Ceobe Defense base damage. What if they make a damage base operator base on enemy HP. That would be insane.

3:50 "if future operator will be able to change the rules of their archetype, what will future ops do" I see where you're comming from, but I don't realy agree, as it only fit a very psychorigid viewing what a class is, classes, and subclasses to that extend where never an immovable rules, just vagues guidelines of what an operator in it might do, that's why some operator in the same subclasses can have widly different intended uses, and it's REALY nothing new. We alway had operator that broke the "rules" their class/subclass in one way or another, if you want some exemple, before subclasses where even officialy a thing, Aak was the only Specialist that couldn't be placed on melee tiles, while pushers could be placed on range tile despise being purely mélée. OG Ch'en's skill 2 and 3 already could hit air despese never being mentioned in the skill. Mountain S2 makes him anything but a Brawler. Eunectes was the only 1block deffender and was also stated offensively. Kal'sit is the antithesis of a medic. Liskarm was the only Deffender with 2 tiles of range AND she could attack drones, and even when Blitz joined her, they where both considered protector deffender after the introduction of subclasses, they only got their own subclass months later... Vulcan is the only Juggernaught that doesn't have that extra tile of range in front of her (so you can say that mudrock broke the "all operator of a same archetype have the same attack range rule, and the other followed) Hoshiguma ALSO break the attack range rule, and she's Day1... Deggenbreacher not having offensive recovery on S3 Ceobe and Tomimi dealing Physical damage, in classes who's trait is "deal arts damage" Flamebringer is an operator you want to stay on the field in an archetype mainly used for Helidrop. Heavyrain have skills designed like a healing deffender's despise not being one. Kazemaru's doll on S2 can't attack drones, her sub when she die, as well as every other ones exept Specter's can. We also got operator that broke the "melee classe/range classe" rules like artifficers and Tacticians. Pallas being a very stong operator by herself, breaking 2 rules of instructor: 1- being support units , 2- being bad And a very similar one: Tachanka is a swordmaster that can Attack air with normal attack, And Doc (instructor) and Fuze (centurion) can as well, that's 3 guards that can attack drones in archetype that normaly wouldn't be able to, and it's not mentioned anywhere either... If anything, the introduction of subclasses restricted their operator design possibilities, because before the officialisation of subclasses, we had operator with unique kits that DID break the rules of their classes, that's why Iffrit, Aak, Eunectes, Rosmontis, Liskarm where the only operators inb their respectiv archetype for YEARS, but with the introduction of subclasses and the module system that goes with it, they had to make more of them. It realy uniformized operator design in a bad way IMO. And I agree with you, Ulpianus S3 is cool af. But also wtf how doesn't Shu/Logos S3 count for you as "skill that give me more interesting way to play the game"??? They too do shit we never seen before and that look super fun to mess around with. x)

Does old well count? Classified as Medic, but is actually a three block centurion with true damage and self healing, only demerit is taking two deploy slots. P.S No cockroache on my landship.

@Dark-Frostleaf

Ай бұрын

Old well counts.

@almondbread8255

Ай бұрын

Who?

@wollyram6248

Ай бұрын

@@almondbread8255 Kaltsit

@abrahamwijaya6631

Ай бұрын

​@@almondbread8255you are new leaf?

@almondbread8255

Ай бұрын

@@abrahamwijaya6631 No I just never heard kal be referred to as old well

heres some ideas that goes against the game rules a defender that instead of blocking enemies in the tiles next to the defender they let them enter the tile the defender is occupying and then block them an operator that changes enemies paths an operator that can change their skills in the stage an operator when killed will deploy another operator in their place

@abrahamwijaya6631

Ай бұрын

2: nymph 4: every dollkeeper

@delix1670

29 күн бұрын

@@abrahamwijaya6631 for number 4 i meant a different operator from your squad

ulpian being a crusher is so weird hg is like "ok everyone i know you all want ulpian to be a reaper it makes all the sense in the world.... nah we making him crusher then basically making him a reaper anyways" O.o like the only difference is that he can be healed by medics my brudah, what medics are medics are in the abyssal squads???

I wouldn't Call Ela "meta", some ppl would say that Ela powercrept Ray and to that i say: learning on how to manage sandbeast timings isn't hard.

I have a question....is arknights ever going to add more squad save spots? I have 3 teams I don't want to change and one temp slot in case I have trouble...but I am left with no room to experiment with my other operators

@Dark-Frostleaf

Ай бұрын

Currently there is no additional team slots and it most likely won't happen.

@russellzaccardjr2930

Ай бұрын

Kaka

@abrahamwijaya6631

Ай бұрын

Why would you even need that much squad? I can even remember what I want to bring if let's just say for low end and just bringing full mass nuke to bully the bosses

Walter's existence as a limited of a limited isn't a problem for me. I take issue with her being so blantantly overpowered, as you said in the video, she's this generation's Chalter, something so grossly strong it raises the power ceiling of arknights by a mile. So strong that she manages to overshadow Logos' rather strong kit as well behind those big numbers. The biggest issue I have with her though is the increasing trend of broken operators ignoring the limitations built INTO their archetype. At that point just shove them in a different one so I don't have to suffer at Rosmontis getting screwed as Walter profits.

@DeadInside-hf4gh

Ай бұрын

Well dang just take the words right out of my mouth.

@abrahamwijaya6631

Ай бұрын

​@@DeadInside-hf4ghbro stand proud, you are strong

Why Mlynar target drones? Why Degen target drones and have auto sp on Swordmaster? Typhon keeps her s3 global no matter what through bosses invulnerable and changing phases. Eyjalter removing elemental damage from the game. Its too late to cry powercreep, we are so deep in that EN fixation on Walter to draw the line is funny af, especially comparing to Chalter, who was drama in CN first and foremost, but they took Walter pretty good without any drama. I dont get this fixation, its like EN cc opened an event "Walter bad month", so mainstream now.

@abrahamwijaya6631

Ай бұрын

You can say this if you got everything....

FINALLY someone who against Walter existence. Again, after alot of ranting, I'm still going to pull her because I like the big red numbers she deals. But I don't like her existence even though for God's sake I know her build up & the event justified her alter + limited condition, that if you somehow change her position with someone else, it couldn't fit But anyway, I... honestly doesn't really know about future operators. I planned saves & spark Eyja-Alter after 5th Anniversary in newest Summer event, but after I saw alot of newest non-limited who is really strong/interesting + the way HG seems won't stop doing that, I gave up & choose to pull Ulpian later, along with Executor-Alter rerun, Degenbrecher, & many more

Incantation medic that can heal normally? Folinic: is it that me? HG i got admitted they love broke the rules... But i want to say that please when making hell stages please don't make meta's obviously to this just to be barely.... DOS was your idea and it was so bad. I'm not asking them to stop be creative but i want HG to remember that if all his customers are whaler then congrats you are no better than hoyo😮