This was an excellent recap. Thank you, man.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

Cyclops really told the FF “where were you when all the dawgs needed help?” 😂

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

basically!

@jamman9569

2 ай бұрын

The FF are the ones who pulled his wife out of the river and cured Kitty Pryde. They've had the X-Mens backs.

@coleburns362

2 ай бұрын

​@@jamman9569 tell it to cyclops

@Evil0tto

Ай бұрын

@@coleburns362 Nobody should need to. Cyclops should know.

@conected

Ай бұрын

Shit writers, the same sentence can be reversed on cyclops, where were the X-men, when the FF, avengers, spider-man, etc, needed their help, these writers should already know that there were a bunch of times other heroes have helped the X-men and viceversa, it’s a lazy cop out plot point to drive drama and tensions that basically aren’t true

Basically Moira's ability Is being isekaied like a manga protagonist.

@Gamerdude28

3 ай бұрын

Yes and no. Everything she dies, the universe resets to the time of her birth. I like to think of it as hard resetting on a speedrun

@aureumsilentium6518

3 ай бұрын

@@Gamerdude28 Then it's a mix of Isekai and "killer queen bite the dust".

@Gamerdude28

3 ай бұрын

@@aureumsilentium6518 awesome explanation 👏

@aureumsilentium6518

3 ай бұрын

@@Gamerdude28 thank you!

@jonathanathor117

2 ай бұрын

@@Gamerdude28So the main character from edge of tomorrow

I feel like this is my favorite X-men series ever when mutants unite and take over!!!

New subscriber. Krakoa era X-Men is the BEST thing to happen in comics this century! Revived my lifelong love for mutant storytelling. Looking forward to more content from you!

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for subbing And I AGREE!

@FUFUCarnagerap

2 ай бұрын

Opinions^^ It made me stop buying X Men Comics after nearly 35 years! Such a crappy, lazy nonsense!

@wolvewick4414

2 ай бұрын

krakoa era is the most boring no sense in xmen eras

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

@@wolvewick4414 it's OK. it's not for everybody. There are a lot of moving parts lofty concepts that may not appeal to you.... that is okay !

@6tiple6ix6afia

2 ай бұрын

@FUFUCarnagerap whoa like no way bruh an opinion

House of X/Powers of X was an incredible roll out & 12 weeks of pure joy for us long-time X-Men readers. Hickman revived The X-Men & I really hope Marvel & Tom Breevort can keep The X-Men fresh after The Fall of the House of X!

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

thank you for subscribing! let me know if you have any questions you would like to discuss, characters or teams that i should show love to!

@datboicasino

3 ай бұрын

Strong disagree

@morvennvahl7304

2 ай бұрын

Really feels like Hickman destroyed one of the greatest comic franchises in history. But hey, to each their own

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

@@morvennvahl7304 That is a fatalistic view and not one shared by the vast majority as this run has been lucrative and critically acclaimed but as you say to each his own

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

@@morvennvahl7304 so you read the whole story? What elements exactly read like the Ultimates?

My problem with revamps in the last 15 years has been the "jump cut" from out of nowhere that usually starts the revamp. No segue, no build up, no set up. That is why I never get invested. If you can dispose of what came before so easily, you are going to do it again and again. NOTE: I said REVAMPS not reboots. Reboots are different.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

have you read any of Dawn of X?

@patrickimperial579

2 ай бұрын

You clearly haven't read this era of X-Men. There's no need for a "set up" if you understand the nature of the X-Men. Furthermore, House of X/Powers of X explains as to why this entire revamp is even happening.

@michaelbanes3833

2 ай бұрын

​@@patrickimperial579i respectfully disagree. I ve got hox/pox dawn of x,rise of x.but there are offshoots. Some of the xmen stuff and marauders stuff are in dawn of x some offshoots are not so I end up double dipping.cos the covers are different. (That also happened to me with xfactor omnibus 2 cos they have different covers but that s a different story.)way back in uncanny xmen mutant massacre (the first crossover)they gave us a map of issues we needed to follow.why can t they do that now.?

@dondoesdoodles9726

2 ай бұрын

​@@patrickimperial579 Reading marvel now is next to impossible since there are so many different interweaving issues and many of them have such similar names that jumping in is almost impossible. March alone had the following X-men Titles released: -Ultimate X-men -Weapon X-men -X-Men -X-men unlimited #129 -X-Men (vol 6) -Dead X-men -Fall of House of X -Wolverin (vol. 7) #45 -X-Factor -X-men unlimited #130 -X-Men: Red -Wolverine #7 -Wolverine #1 -Wolverin: Madripoor Knights -Xmen-Unlimied #131 -X-Men Forever -Immortal X-men -Rise of Powers of X -Wolverine (vol. 7) #46 -X-Force (vol. 6) #50 -X-men '97 (vol. 2) -X-men Unlimited #132 I grew to love Marvel and comics in general because I could walk into 7-11 [in the 90s] and buy Amazing Spider-man once a month for $2.50. I knew exactly what was happening because most of the time it even said "part 1 of X" on the covers. Now I have to go to a specialty shop and each one costs $8 for 24 pages and even though not all of them cross-over the vast majority do. Most people do not want to have to do research to find out what order to read something in and Marvel is making this way WAY to difficult to consume.

Story is pretty amazing. I'm really not sure where they go from here without it feeling more of the same instead of something new and truly creative.

Very nice, this brought me back to collecting Comic books again.

In my opinion, this era of X-Men is one of the best things to ever happen to the characters. I hate that it's ending but man what a ride it has been.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

I must agree! It's been an intense and exciting few years and I'm more excited to see what's next than sad

@katomamundara8106

2 ай бұрын

@@Tone_Of_Dials Good for you. You're one of the few and proud to completely misunderstand the characters!

@katomamundara8106

2 ай бұрын

@@Tone_Of_Dials Why are you pinging me instead of yourself?

Finally you are caught up! I've been waiting for years now. Can't wait on your coverage of Storm, especially X-Men SWORD and X-Men RED. Red was a blast. And Sinister's line, HS how powerful she is there and what she gives to protect mutants on her ship!

I follow one other comic channel and I really do like his channel but it was hard for me to follow this story on his channel but the way you simplified it really helped me follow and understand how things got to where it's at. This was a great summary and now I actually want to read the comics so I can follow the story. 👍🏾

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

wow! thanks a lot! I know there are really great content creators doing God's work with in depth analysis of these comics. I decided to just talk like I'm talking to a friend who may not be up to speed but loves the genre,

@Duomaxwell02M

3 ай бұрын

You should. If you're a Dr. Doom fan like your handle suggests, there's a great scene where Xavier and Doom converse and Doom basically calls Xavier out on his hypocrisy. Hickman's a great writer who understands the essence of Dr. Doom.

Without magic, I don't see how the resurrection process brings actual people back. Souls are established in the Marvel Universe, sure, but the Krakoa resurrection process is science-y. It makes me think they're just creating clones.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

that is addressed during X of Swords to a degree. You have to actually engage the material to understand

@Kaminja111

Ай бұрын

@@FandomSage The x-men playing god is not being heroes. This stuff is so crazy new readers are definitely turned off.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

@@Kaminja111 the run has been received generally well and by all metrics it's been successful. It's all rare thing to Garner universal praise. There is always someone who won't prefer this or that...and that's ok!

After reading Gantz... seeing all this resurection stuff in X-Men leaves me with a lot of questions... :P

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

OMG crazy anime! It weirded me out years ago but I loved it when I rewatched it

I've been reading/collecting since I was 16 {1989}, and I can say w/o the least bit of fear of contradiction, that the Krakoan Era is the best and greatest thing to ever happen to the X-Men. Superheroes and supervillains together, United against a common foe: humanity. Johnathon Hickman is the greatest comics writers ever. He revamped the FF, the Avengers, then the X-Men. He's a genius

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

I share that sentiment! It is fascinating to read the characters within this status quo and see that there is cooperation but they are still who they are and those character traits still present themselves through a lense of compromise or in some of the "good" characters case a lense of extremism. Great stuff

@Evil0tto

Ай бұрын

I'll contradict that. Been reading X-Men since the early 80s, and this is the most incoherent, bizarre, and out of touch era in the history of the franchise. The idea that humanity is the foe goes against everything the X-Men ever stood for and is just typical of nihilistic writing that we're flooded with everywhere in the 2020s. The X-Men have been turned into a race cult, and the idea of letting absolute monsters like Apocalypse and Sinister in with a "OK, now promise to be good!" is idiotic. Getting rid of death turns every character into Kenny from _South Park,_ cheapening death until it doesn't really matter. And the less said about the Mars thing the better. That made my eyes roll back in my head so hard I saw my own brain. Hickman is a terrible writer. His ideas are dumb, and the sooner they press the inevitable reset button on this whole era the better.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

That is a strong opinion and i know there is a segment of comic readers that have criticized the Krakoan Era and I continue to engage for discussion but it seems the same talking points are repeated and either they haven't actually read any of the story and are speculating based off others assessments or just completely missed the messages aand themes but maybe were genuinely turned off by the new dynamics but can't really elaborate on anything specific. The Krakoan Era isn't supposed to make fans warm and fuzzy. From the jump there is an uncomfortable feeling that comes and goes as the story goes then it really sinks that its all unsustainable. We have been following a sinking ship for 4 years but that is the crux of the narrative and the resurrection protocols are a major plot point not a deus ex machina as many incorrectly assume

@Blakk_Wolf7

Ай бұрын

@@Evil0tto yes, the X-Men's mission, the hope of a better world where humans & Mutants can live, together & coexist. That's Xavier's dream. But that doesn't change the fact that humanity is our greatest foe. All of Xavier's good intentions in the world doesn't mean anything, because no matter how many times the X-Men have saved the world, & the universe, humanity still hates us. See, when the the Avengers or the FF save the world, all of humanity celebrate them. But when the X-Men do it they hate us even more.

@Evil0tto

Ай бұрын

@@Blakk_Wolf7 "Us?" "Our?" You're not a mutant. This is FICTION. It's bad writing, because Marvel writers can't come up with a reason for the X-Men to exist except by portraying ordinary humans as a mob of mindless fanatics who fear one specific type of superpowered people for no really good reason.

I’ll be honest with you Hickman almost single handedly is keeping marvels stories amazing. His run on the avengers, infinity, Fantastic Four, and now X-men . He’s got the Midas touch of writers and if marvel is smart they will pay him what he’s worth so he can stay with them and keep making gold.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

100% agree

@StivsLair

2 ай бұрын

He left and after Reign of X everything just falls because Duggan isn't Hickman

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

@@StivsLair Duggan is not Hickman but Gillion and Ewing did great work as well. XMen Red was phenomenal

Great video. Now I wait for them to come out with a tome of the entire run 😅

THiS Was My Favorite Era, and I've been a Fan Since 1967, but after Fall Of X ends iN June 2024, I will probably be done, especially if they return to the mansion.😔

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I've mostly enjoyed this era too. It felt fresh and provocative in the best ways possible. Especially HOX, The Crucible, Infernno and Sins of Sinister. X-Men Red was amazing too!

@hanzpeter7314

3 ай бұрын

Same goes brother :(

@skribblylacroix3251

2 ай бұрын

I am in this boat as well. Decades long reader/ best arc is here and the reason I may never return is because I have no idea why it’s ending.

Just subbed. HOX/POX will forever in my top 5 comics I’ve ever read

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

agreed!

Personally, I'm kinda mixed on the direction Hickman took the X-Men, and it did feel inconsistent and unnecessary with the reasons, as well as some mutants acting out of character. That being said, I do love the concepts Hickman has brought into the fold, I just wish there had been refinement. I hope ypur video gets more credit because it's really helpful since I have been struggling with it!

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I have seen many people say that certain mutants were out of character but that was the point of the arc. The mutant history we knew was amended and characters were set on different paths and put in unprecedented situations but some were more revamped than others. Xavier, Sinister, and Beast were pretty different but not unrecognizable. Xavier is closer in ideology to Magneto and vice versa. Sinister is very sassy and sarcastic but I found it works really well. Beast went full supervillain tho arguably he's been on that trajectory for years

@alexcomtois7932

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage True, but the whole Moira Mactaggart being a reincarnated mutant bit did feel a bit forced. They weren't placed into new situations but rather forced into them and pretended like it was always meant to be. Moira being a mutant further complicates the already messy marvel timeline and it just feels out of left field. I'd argue it would've been more interesting to create a a new character with that concept of re-incarnation, and build them up, giving newer mutants with even more interesting roles. I also don't know why at some point Professor X mindwiped Franklin Richard's and lied by telling him he was never a mutant or something. I think that was because of Dan Slot, and I remember people being kind of annoyed by that decision. It just felt like that retcon served no purpose. Also, is it me or did the whole Gala event last 3 years? Because they talked about it in 2020/2021 and then I only found about everything that happened after around last year? Idk if I was out of the loop but I could swear they spent too much time focusing on it.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

The Gala was a semi annual event. I think there were 4 or 5 but i can't remember. The Moira plot was the best part of the story and it's presented right up front and explained the mechanics at least . She is a very secretive and complicated woman and her beef with Mystique and Destiny was amazing! Moira being the catalyst works better than a new character because you understand her function due to her comic history and a lot of the plot is so well put together i may have believed someone had intended for this reveal years ago lol.

Krakoa? The living island? The world’s largest mutant? The antagonist of Giant-Size X-Men?

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

yes that is the one

@Drixenol86

2 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage wow.

Awesome breakdown

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

I appreciate that

I was so confused that I dropped it. I felt like I missed a week and everything went sideways

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

it's always been a challenge to know where to start when getting back in to comics. Especially X men because they are the biggest team. These two books are a great place to jump in

@monolith_g

Ай бұрын

That was a constant feeling after x of swords. Ewing duggan and Gillen kept things together enough after inferno. Yes, confusing but def a fun time and worth the ride…even though I think my speculation was funner than the actual story 😂

Very interesting era for the X-Men and overall well written. I'd love to see Hickman on a DC title like Justice League at some point.

I consider myself to have read a lot of the krakoan saga, but I still can't help but feel as lost as the next guy sometimes. There's just WAY too many books going on at the same time.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

Yeah i get it and honestly the Xmen books have had that hurdle for at least 15 years with the spinoffs because they have sooo many characters. I jumped in and started with these 2 books and then i didn't know where to go. Ultimately I waited till X of Swords to jump back in and found the recommended reading list and went from there. Then X-Men Red was my go to but I completely sympathize

I wanted to jump into the X-men and heard the Krakoan era was a a good start. I’m currently reading HOX/POX and this video helped a lot. Appreciate it.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Great! I'm glad it helped and that you're reading HOX and POX! Such a banger of a story!

Great recap of HOX/POX! This is a great primer for folks who may want to jump back in after the reboot.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

i appreciate that!

I’ve been caught up for years now and it’s been a wild ride

Its a perfect summary 🎉🎉🎉

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

thank you!🙌🏾

Could you please make a video about the Krakoan era New Mutants???

I'm a HUGE fan of both The X Men & Jonathan Hickman...I thought HOX & POX was AMAZING for the 1st year..but then I started hearing that the rest of the X Office didn't want to follo Hickman's original plans...& because of the BIG increase in interest both the X Men titles & sales.. they wanted the Krakoa Era to go on INDEFINITELY.. Not long after.. Hickman LEFT..& in my opinion this led to a MASSIVE drop in the quality of the X books..& I lost interest in them as well Thankfully... Marvel announced last year that we would see the END of the Krakoan Era in 2024..& the X Men titles will ALL be rebooted.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

yes I have heard much the same. I think that this was a great run but was inevitably going to hit a reset point. However some elements hopefully can carry over. The ability to tweak the mutant abilities was teased a lot after the side effects of resurrection

@jonbodhi

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSagethe ‘reset’ was built into the story, with Moira’s powers, and that the Dominions were afraid of two things: Galactus, and…THE PHOENIX!!! I’m sure the end will involve both to SOME degree; I can’t believe this entire run will have simply never happened, but we’ll end up with tons of resurrected mutants for creators to play with.

I never liked the Krakoa arc. As the arc continued the characters were becoming less and less human. Resurecting characters, performing eugenics on themselves and even banning humans even the oarents of mutants while allowing clearly criminal mutants like Sinister in. By separating themselves from humanity they lost the human touch.

@mrmooch10

3 ай бұрын

Don’t completely agree but understand what you’re saying.

Stellar job on this.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

thanks man

Fox studios could have little done this movie panel for panel and would have owned the mcu

New sub,youre awesome

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

you're awesome lol. Thank you 😊

Can u do a follow up video on x of swords

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I am considering that actually. I want to do the crucible and Inferno too there's only so many hours in the day lol

I have enjoyed the Krakoa age of X-Men. It felt really fresh to boot. And it felt really needed after years of status quo for the X-men (tbh I kinda enjoyed Bendis’ run on X-Men but the stuff that followed after the Original 5 were sent back in time was incredibly boring.) This current Fall of X storyline seems like it’s taking years to complete. So now we’re in a weird place, where we’ve finished with a great period of X-men storytelling. But not yet into the next era. The issues feel like filler anime episodes within 6-7 books with two overly complicated background arcs (The Dominion/ Moira) being weaved in here and there. Personally, I feel like I need a tutor or at least some Kabbalah classes to understand the esoteric nature of The Dominion storyline. It feels like a struggle to read through.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

love me some Bendis

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I will admit the Dominion stuff is convoluted even for comics

@rtuggle82

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage He gave us the coolest Cyclops I’ve seen in years. And contrary to popular opinion I like how he changed Beast into the mad genius whose morality is in question. I used to work in the science field and met a ton of folks who seemed like they would evolve into the exact same character lol

@ggez3109

3 ай бұрын

Convoluted but great...........but then again the real problem here is that everything as always with long spamming arcs it is being rushed at the end so not that much of an explanation about what the dominions are except that they are cosmically powerful, live outside time and space and the villanous one is the ascended form of nathaniel exces the man that would become mister sinister. I loved how Al Ewing wrote defenders beyond and left a door open for an entire team of heroes outside the xmen preparing to battle that new menace but thanks to the rushing it doesnt look like that plot thread will lead anywhere whchi is a shame. Personally I dont think we should avoid esoteric concepts as complicated as they get but they should at least be better explained.

@rtuggle82

3 ай бұрын

@@ggez3109 Do you have any examples of where the esoteric concepts introduced are explained well in comics? Grant Morrison did some esoteric stuff with Jean Grey’s death/unlocking of the Phoenix consciousness within her. And with the introduction of the White Hot Room and Black Bug Room. Unfortunately he never really defined what the WHR was. And he gave us White Phoenix of the Crown (chakra) but I’m not even sure the next writers who wrote Phoenix stories even understood what that meant lol. When I first read those books as a teen with very limited life experience, I had no idea what I was reading. But when I went back and read those books again in my 20’s I got a ton out of them. And to date New X-men is one of my most re-read runs on the X-Men. Louise Simonson tried to expound on those concepts recently in her Jean Grey (2023) 4 part series, where she wrote Jean from the viewpoint of her actual self as well as her higher self. And after 20yrs finally gave the reader an explanation of what the White Hot Room actually is. (Seemingly it is the realm of infinite possibility where thoughts become actualized, accessed by mutant dna) In these instances, I’m not sure that the themes written were explained well. They were more of a ‘IYKYK.’ But as I’m only and X-men reader, I may have blindspots where there are better examples outside of that fandom.

This is so helpful, thank you.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

you're welcome!

I still maintain that Jonathan Hickman was overwritten by his protégés (Tini Howard, Leah Williams, and Vita Ayala) and they took it over after they kind of saw the writing on the wall: This is an overarching storyline about the dangers of AI and how it takes Humanity & Mutantkind working together to overcome At least…if you follow the threads left by Inferno (which it wasn’t originally meant to be) 🤷🏽‍♂️ They probably didn’t want to write within those guidelines, so they had Jordan White remove him from his own project and gave him the Ultimate Universe back instead. Such a shame since he clearly spoke about how much he wanted to do the X-Men in the past, so his whole “I got burnt out” excuse falls flat

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I don't follow

@yeez13

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage Not only did Jonathan Hickman step down just before Inferno #1 came out, but he made a statement about it. He admits that he “got burnt out” (not in those exact words) and is leaving it to his co-writers that he started the “Krakoa Arc” with. He then came back a while later to do an Amazing Spider-Man one-shot plus G.O.D.S. and Ultimate Invasion & some Ultimate Universe books (most notably Ultimate Spider-Man), which felt more like a compromise and trade for his vision of the X-Men in exchange for the return of the Ultimate Universe. Speaking of, the Ultimate Universe was meant to return in full-swing as a spin-off of Donny Cates’s Venom run from 2018-2021 under Cates’s writing…but then he went off the deep end and left Marvel while he was still writing Hulk w/ Ryan Ottley 🤷🏽‍♂️ Hickman’s departure absolutely derailed everything and the Krakoa Era stalled into oblivion shortly afterwards, with Kieron Gillen sort of being tapped as his successor but it not really working out. What I’m ultimately getting at is that the current Krakoa Era is basically just a giant filler arc and what Hickman originally wanted (which was something incredibly epic) was sort of hijacked by his co-writers and turned into a bizarre soapbox for their ideals

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

@@yeez13 While I can understand that perspective I'm not nearly as fatalistic. I think that the past 5 years has done well to reinvigorated the X-Men brand and make mutants relevant again. Were there rough patches sure as should be expected in grandiose endeavors. The X-Men have always come with the Hurculean task of wrangling dozens of characters with decades of history and presenting these beloved characters who mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people, in a fresh and compelling narrative. The concepts and characters dynamics explored in The Dawn of X have been priceless imo and at the very least worth the construction of this new mutant order. Going forward I think that many of those themes and paradigms will continue to be explored and I can say for certain that readers of the past five years have a new scope of realization of what these characters are truly capable of when working in concert. I never would have imagined the type of government protocols, checks and balances, religious aspects and moral defections that Hickman /mutant kind introduced

I wanna watch this but I wana read it lmao. like .. where/what is best reading order that I can find? I read Hox/Pox and started X-men and Fallen Angels & Maruaders - but Im a issue by issue Canonical Freak. lmao if I need to jump titles issue by issue, or Vol by Vol - my OCD needs to know!

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

The series you want to start with are House of X and Powers of X (10). "Twin" series introduces the entire premise then from there its a little wild. I waited till the crossover events are finished then go look up the reading order to follow the main story. Sometimes i'll come across a story Im into and retroactively go back to fill in what I missed lol

Ok so correct me if I’m wrong but the revived characters are just clones with the downloaded memories right? So the actual characters consciousness that died are still gone?

@natecward8322

3 ай бұрын

No. The same consciences come back into the revived character. The only difference is they can only remember what prof X backed up. So it’s like you blacking out for a week and then coming out of it. You’re still you, you just can’t remember what happened when you blacked out.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

yes and no... but yes mainly lol. When they are rebooted they don't recall their deaths because the "save point" is the island. They can get the info through telepathic download but it's like watching someone that looks like you and not having the experience. So now that I said that I realized Moira is the opposite because she remembers everything right up to her death

That... Was so stupid. My brain hurts. With the mutants avaliable, the idea of going with a strike team is so damn dumb. Just build a railgun and shoot the thing from orbit. With the mutant geniuses, plus the telekinetic ones, it's easy and fast to build. I miss the Utopia Era, at least the tactics made sense, even if they sometimes were basically war crimes.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

you clearly missed a few important plot points. Like Krakoa's goal of being accepted by the world's governments and being admitted to the U.N.... Shooting down a space station, with potentially hundreds of humans aboard with an experimental weapon than can accurately target and destroy a target orbiting the sun (which seems the least plausible idea I've ever heard) from said island Nation of mutants seems to counterproductive to such diplomatic endeavors.

@ambrosiogiovanni6952

2 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage you lack imagination. You're not building it on Krakoa, obviously, you're building it in space, using materials from the thousands of meteors and asteroids around. Shooting it, is the easiest part, you don't really need to aim it that well, just have enough calculations that makes the shot close, and a mutant, like Magneto or something, to direct it in the final stretch. The best thing of building it off planet is the plausible deniability of it all. I mean, there's tons of people in the Marvel Universe that can pull this off, some of them, alone.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

@@ambrosiogiovanni6952 again that isn't a strategy that adopts any type of stealth when their goal is to be accepted as a sovereign nation and building a railgun in space would require to much time and resources when you don't know when the Mother Mold will be brought online.

The X-Men join forces with all the villains to form a eugenics assisted ethnostate. How far we have fallen.

@KazinWhitewind

Ай бұрын

Hey, This storyline, while provocative and controversial, isn’t merely about forming an "ethnostate" or promoting eugenics: 1. **Resurrection Protocols as Eugenics?**: The term "eugenics" typically refers to selective breeding to enhance desirable traits. In the context of X-Men, the resurrection protocols aren't about breeding or altering genetic traits but are a means to recover from the constant threat of extinction that mutants face. This technological advancement is used to preserve lives lost in a world where mutants are continually persecuted and killed. 2. **Krakoa as an Ethnostate?**: Krakoa is indeed established as a homeland exclusively for mutants, but this is better understood as a response to their history of persecution, akin to a sanctuary. The creation of Krakoa as a sovereign nation is a desperate measure for survival in a world where mutants have always been marginalized. It’s about providing safety and autonomy, rather than isolating or promoting a superior race. 3. **Alliances with Villains**: The alliances formed with characters like Apocalypse and Sinister certainly raise moral questions. However, these alliances are depicted as tactical necessities in the face of existential threats, rather than endorsements of their past actions. This aspect of the storyline challenges readers to think about the complexities of governance and survival when no options are ideal. Mutants want to stop fighting amongst themeselves and instead embrace against the viral plague of persecution that is humanity. Keep in mind too, this is all pushed to extremes because Moira showed Xavier that no path, not his or Magneto’s or Apocalypse’s would work. This was the only path forward for them. We are meant to be uncomfortable with its radicalism. 4. **Exploring Themes of Sovereignty and Safety**: The establishment of Krakoa and the difficult alliances are narrative devices used to explore deeper themes of sovereignty, safety, and what a persecuted community might do to ensure its survival. These are not straightforward decisions but are intended to provoke thought and discussion about real-world issues through the lens of fiction. It’s also not the first time such attempts were made, Genosha and Asteroid M being other examples. This era of X-Men is meant to challenge perceptions and push the boundaries of traditional superhero narratives. While it might be uncomfortable, it’s crafted to reflect on and provoke discussions about serious themes like survival, trauma, and the moral complexities faced by those under constant threat of annihilation. The narrative isn’t devoid of controversy, but it serves as a rich allegory for examining the darker, more complex aspects of society and what measures might be considered justified under extreme circumstances. Cheers!

@Ship-security

Ай бұрын

@@KazinWhitewind yeah that’s what I said, only shorter.

@lucasdavis5694

Ай бұрын

@@Ship-security "How far we have fallen"...how so? From what?

@lucasdavis5694

Ай бұрын

@@FandomSage I’m new to comics, I was more asking hahaha. What do people perceive as the height of previous x men comics (that we have now “fallen” from?)

@rwilliamisen

Ай бұрын

@@Ship-securitynot sure he was agreeing with you. In fact, I think he was rejecting your take.

Loved it. Great job

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

thank you so much!

Started good. Became a trash fire.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

I've enjoyed most of what I've rread. There are some weaker titles but nothing that changes my opinions

Serious question.... I've never read ANY X-men comics.... where do I start and will it take me years to catch up?

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

if you are lucky you will read them for years! Lol no in all seriousness it's not about catching up especially if you've never read any... just enjoy the stories. There is also the school of thought that the best place to start is from the beginning. Some great story arcs though are the Phoenix Saga, God Loves Man Kills with William Stryker as the villain. Also anything Grant Morrison. E is for Extinction is great place to start in the modern era. That one feature Cassandra Nova who is going to be in the Deadpool film

@jonbodhi

3 ай бұрын

If you can find reprints of the Chris Claremont/John Byrne run, then read them. The Dark Phoenix Saga and Days of Future Past remain some of the most seminal comics in the history of the medium. There’s tons more, but for expediency, I’d jump to Grant Morrison’s New X-Men run, THEN read House of X/Powers of X, and the books that spin out from that. Sone are excellent, some are..not, but read the most recommended ones, I’d recommend‘Immortal X-Men and X-Men Red, then MAYBE AXE (Avengers/X-Men/Eternals) then Sabertooth and the Exiles, which shows the dark underbelly of the Krakoa experiment, then The Sins of Sinister mini, then go the Hellfire Gala ‘23, which is the beginning of the end of this era. A lot? Not really, and there’s some good stuff in the historical and modern books. And there’s no rush; read them at your convenience. I won’t be reading the full Fall of X until its in trade later this summer.

I've just read the ressurrection of charles xavier. Can someone help me know the order of Reading to get into krakoa?

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

There are a lot of resources online for suggested reading order but definitely House of X and Powers of X are where you want to start

I just finished HoX/PoX and absolutely loved it. I have been reading X-Men since the early 90’s and this was easily one of the best takes on the mutants I have read. I have to admit though, I am a little bit confused about what happens after this story? Is it the Dawn of X books? Got a bit lost since they kind of branched off into individual character storylines.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

same thing I went through. I ended up waiting until X of Swords wrapped up which was the 1st big crossover event. Then I looked up the reading list because the story was spread across several titles. I'm reviewing X of Swords currently and I'll notated the comic issues

By looking at the cover alone I am already lost and I haven’t read it.

Hope for over video

Cypher and the island are the only part I liked. The rest is sort of melodramatic. At some point you realize everyone is immortal and all powerful in this storyline, so there are no consequences.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

so you didn't read it...

@serPomiz

2 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage he absolutely did not read any of it

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Sorry i dont read the comic yet and ba e a question So moira reincarnate over and over but its notmlike she dies amd continues with a new born in the present but in the past?

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

Its like her own personal time loop. A reset

I kinda miss the Utopia years

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

really? This is waaay better imo

I enjoyed the krakoa saga mainly for unity

Yeah, this was cool if you stopped reading X-men but if you had been reading since 91…. This has been a slap in the face especially with that they had done with Xavier.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

what specifically?

I started juat after hellfire gala. Will i understand stuff?

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

you haven't started from the beginning?

Everyone seems to be praising this but honestly, this seems more of why I don't read the mainline comics.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

as i say often everything isn't for everyone. I'm certain joy can be found elsewhere

Thank you. So. Much.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

you're welcome

I grew up on the X-men. I love the X-men. They'll always have a warm place in my heart. Hickman has had some iconic runs on series. His Avengers, Secret Wars, and especially his Fantastic Four runs are excellent. The majority of comics fans love his X-men run. As shown in this video and the comments of the viewers, this series and run on X-men is clearly beloved. I hate it. I hate it with a passion. I find it poorly written, morally bankrupt, full of arrogant "realpolitik" from someone that clearly doesn't understand politics or social systems, tons of deus ex machina where problems are solved by new sudden powers and abilities, tons of meaningless game-of-thones-like intrigue that is ultimately meaningless, and terrible, terrible character development. Literally, the X-men are written as fascists, and their fascism is "justified" in the writing, and characters rarely ever ask any questions, and the readers just love it. I just don't understand how anyone could have been reading the X-men since the 70's and like this take. it's a betrayal of all the series stood for. But it seems in the 2020's, people are just eating it up. I think that says a lot about our media and where we are as a culture today.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

well art always reflects life and much you say i can agree with as far as the thematic interpretations. I am far less fatalistic, however. I see this era as a pseudo WhatIf? but a lot of moral discussions were had and are continuing because of Hickman's radical vision. I didn't find it provocative for provocative sake because imo opinion the X-Men have been pushed to this point for a loooong time and I think its quite understandable that a scenario like this could play out. Moira living multiple lives and try multiple paths to a future of mutant prosperity and ultimately watch if fail every time really underscores the losses mutant kind has endured over the decades. Then she presents all that knowledge to Xavier who merges his original vision with Magneto's tribalistic view of society and a fascinating new Xmen paradigm opened up. I can see way more grey in these stories but i love that. The X-Men were always striving to be seen as heroes and shitted on, That is not what this tale was about. it was about mutant sovereignty and prosperity and a collaboration of ideologies that separately had failed but together could achieve much.

@Thejmack115

2 ай бұрын

You're right about rverything you said here This video basically doesn't mention the level of moral degeneracy that came along with all these changes to the x men not limited to but especially highlighted by their new found occasional orgies which made them creepy and weird the x men are supposed to be super heroes but the people writing superheroes right now have nothing heroic about them so all they can write is inverted morality and flat esoteric ideas

Man, I loved this take on the X-Men, at first just hearing about the concept had me write off the Krakoa era, but I ended up checking out X-Factor since Rachel Grey was in the book and MAN I fell in love with this era and I am sad to see it go this quickly. Especially since its ending led to one of my favorite X-Men being killed off

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I think a lot of people were judging based on hearsay instead of actually reading it. Once I jumped in I was blown away at the ambition and scope of the narrative. I love what they have done with Apocalypse and Magneto. Cyclops and Storm are perfect in their respective roles as leaders and many new elements have been woven into X-men lore that will carry into the next volume

My problem is more about continuity. This is a parallel universe from Uncanny X-men? USA comic books give melt my brain when it comes to continuity. So much unnecesary complicated.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

It's really not anymore complicated than Days of Future Past or Age of Apocalypse or any divergent timeline arc. Marvel also usually keeps everything as canon instead of hard rebooting unlike DC. There may be a few story beats that get pruned but for the most part the character dynamics remain the same just the status quo of the characters have shifted. The events of the Krakoan Era will have an impact on the upcoming relaunch

Based Take

Hickman basically destroyed years of story biulding ...just wiped a side ...added new powers to mutants andmutants just getting along with each other and everyones ok with clones

@FandomSage

22 күн бұрын

That's a gross inaccurate oversimplification . So "basically" you haven't read it. That's a lot less words.

Great video! We *loved* the Krakoan era but tbh we had a hard time keeping up with the details, the log style of delivering information was a really cool device but it also made for massive walls of text that we personally found fatiguing (and honestly might be a lil lazy but we still liked it), so we really appreciate this video (Also, mostly good captions, love to see it)!

I can't bring myself to like the X-Men stories since krakoa. I just can't, it isn't what X-Men was about in the beginning, actually the complete opposite and that I really despise

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

The only constant in life is the changing of things

I'm lost alright, lost in a maelstrom of indifference towards pretty much all modern Marvel comics.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

um... sorry for your loss?

it's all gone to shit! don't waste your time, y'all.

In a perfect world I wish professor Xavier wakes up from his bed in the x mansion saying this was a dream.

@natecward8322

3 ай бұрын

You don’t like Krakoa

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

have you actually read House of X and Powers of X or are you just basing that opinion on what you have heard second hand?

@tyrellturner5602

3 ай бұрын

Things can't stay the same forever

@marcelo335

3 ай бұрын

fuck that mansion

@MrR-py2vq

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage yes I followed it from the beginning. The fact that someone can die and come back made the characters less important. Making professor x go against his beliefs was something I didn't like. His beliefs that humans and mutants can live as one was thrown out the window. I miss cerebro the danger room. The school students the x-men were teachers that was the foundation. I just miss it that's all.

Really good breakdown!

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

thank you!

Really feel like people still being like this to the xmen doesnt make sense to me

oh, this Resurrection Protocols is totally not for me... so basically Xavier know and agree to have clones from walking around

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I guess you could look at it that way. It is that mutant's dna and psyche at least up to that point it was backed up. They have to get information about the moments up to their death from someone who was there

@Tatulak

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage did nightcrawler agree with this? I mean, being religious and all... I do imagine to allow the DNA to be in the DNA bank, you have to give permission, don't you? but since it from mister sinister, I can see this going south badly

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Nightcrawler has an interesting arc that does come about because some mutants don't feel comfortable with this aspect and are conflicted about bringing back others or being killed to be resurrected with their powers if they were depowered. It was interesting

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

@@Tatulak Nightcrawler and Legion have two parallel arcs that cross into religion and they have mutants that only look to them but Legion was more of a psychic commune or sanctuary on the astral plane

cant be lost if you are an x-pert. GOTTA READ EM ALL! X-MEN COMICS YALL!

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

i can't claim to be an expert but I think I'm fairly knowledgeable. I don't want to get a point where I've consumed EVERYTHING! That way there is always something to look forward to.

@renahgade1750

3 ай бұрын

nah, they’re not all interesting

The funny thing is that the books are much better collected now. Like, they released Dawn and Trials of X as monthly trade paper backs. Honestly, this run revived my enjoyment of the franchise. Destiny of X, for me, was mostly good. Got me to check out a certain podcast that did 19 hours on Maddie Pryor.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

i agree i got excited about comics after years

@christopherbennett5858

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage I think it’s because the Decimation got me down. As did stuff like AvX and IvX. And, jumping in, I kind of came to terms with the fact that the only characters I will trust any writer to write consistently are Fenris. Because you will never be accused of character assassination LMFAO. I mean, I saw first class trilogy and went “You’re connecting Mystique to Xavier and Magneto over Nightcrawler and Rogue? And she has a psychic who fe who is pushing 100 with Those Legs that you’re just not mentioning? When did the hurt begin?” New Mutants happened. Not great but decent. I see Wolfsbane and Dani hook up and I’m thinking to myself “Oh thank god, we don’t have to deal with Nate Grey or the 30 years of Wolfsbane’s character careening off a cliff… but what did they do to Sunspot and Dr Reyes?” So I’ve been catching up the past year, been listening to some stuff on that podcast (The “Dating Polaris is gay” of it all was funny and made some sense). At this point, it’s like I have my version of Telenovellas.

@christopherbennett5858

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSageYeah. Frankly, I came to the realisation that the X men were my telenovella soap operas, I thought to myself “that explains everything”. And, whilst the only characters I trust marvel to get right are Fenris, I’m mostly just enjoying the ride.

This entire concept of Resurrection Protocols did not go well with me. To me, the characters we like so much died. Many in very stupid and reckless manners and we have now a bunch of clones. Even many aspects of personality of the characters changed tremendously.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

It's all in how you look at it. They didnt reinvent the wheel. Characters being brought back from the dead is a part of comic culture. We come to expect it its just the 'how' that leaves us guessing. In HOX Hockman eliminates the need to wonder how by setting up the protocols as a part of the system in Krakoa and presenting it like a utility or government service. There are criteria and a que and some are banned and not everything goes according to plan all the time. I think it was rather brilliant and added some provocative social commentary and political strain on the mutants

@tumblingworm737

3 ай бұрын

Having an island that can bring you back from the dead because it's a computer and has datatype banks on mutants. Something has to be said about the soul and what happens to it. These xmen are no longer the actual xmen. They are ghosts. Not the xmen I fell in love with

As I like to call the Krakoan era "The Amoral X-Men"

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

desperate times...

It s not just the krakoa era(which is so messed up i stop collecting and waiting for the fall of x then i m out)from 1975 to 1992 i can map out the xmen and follow the storylines.after that i kept buying the same comic twice because i didnt realise i had it.for instance i bought new mutants 95 to 100 epic collection not realising i had the issues in extinction agenda.what is the reading order of cable, messiah complex trilogy, house of m.they should use some kind of number system or link the comic as a sequence this is why i m fed up with the xmen and only collect the omnibus.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

there are tons of resources online for suggested reading order which is essential when its the Xmen because the team is massive. The thing is its not a race. Enjoy the content in your own time at your own pace or skip it. I stopped reading comics for about 6 years then jumped back in but Dawn of X really got me excited about the Xmen again. Ultimately everything isnt for everybody and that's ok. Joy can be found elsewhere if you look

Hold on, so it is Powers of X or Powers of Ten? Because he's said it both ways

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

it's ten

I still don't get the Moira part.... So the timeline gets wiped when she dies?? How does Charles not realize what's going on by the second time they got together?

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

The timeline is reset but as we know that doesn't necessarily erase or destroy it. The TVA prunes these type of timelines but they aren't accessible through conventional time travel. There is a term that escapes me for these type of alternate timelines. What is important is that everything in them actually happened. Knowlege Moira gains is legit but only she remembers. Moira is also able to hide her true nature and become immune from detection from technology and telepaths and even precogs to a degree which is where the beef with Destiny comes in

Thought thAt said karaoke lol

Hickman stories with Pepe Larraz art always means a goated combo anda goated comic.

Lost? I can't even finish it because Destiny of X TPBs are only printed in French.

Wolverine got the shit end of that deal, now you have to make a follow up video to this cause now you left a brother on a cliff hanger and I hate cliff hangers 😂

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

lol im all over the place. I general make content about topics i can get excited about they tend to turn out better. Not very linear i know lol

@antoineweldon9037

3 ай бұрын

@FandomSage please tell me your going to make a follow up on this

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

@@antoineweldon9037 not a direct follow up but im working on another event that happened pretty much right after this. X of Swords arc was so cool. I think you will dig it

@antoineweldon9037

3 ай бұрын

@FandomSage also could you do more content on cyclops alone cause he's the most badass marvel character that doesn't get the real respect he deserves

@renahgade1750

3 ай бұрын

@@FandomSageof course you’re all over the place! The stories themselves are all over the place. Hopefully these current runs ties it all up cause it’s beginning to get draining.

It's a nice "elseworlds" story but it's definitely not a good X-men book. I thought they were supposed to be heroes. They do kind of foretell the future, in that now we have idiots saying separate is equal and segregation is good. I see where Hickman got it from.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

ok see that is what we call an opinion. People tend to make these grand statements as if they are facts

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

they are heroes but they are also victims, and freedom fighters, persecuted, feared, hated, hunted, and survivors. This is probably closer to what would go down irl after 50 plus years of being hunted and treated like monsters

@devinthunderstrike

2 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage I never declared facts. I'm a person, so most things I say are opinions. Heck the video is an opinion also. Some people like it, I don't think it fits with the canon that Marvel established.

@devinthunderstrike

2 ай бұрын

@@FandomSage X-men comics have been around for 50 years, the X-men have not. Cyclops hasn't been treated badly for 50 years otherwise he'd be 60 to 70 years old.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

I said nothing about the age of the characters...The mutant community...within the context of the fictional comic book Marvel Universe have collectively been targeted since WWII at least. Also being treated like crap constantly for pretty much your whole life probably can't be quantified. 20 years old or 70 years old being discriminated against is messed up. They have seen multiple futures where mutants are hunted...hell two of their children have lived through dark timelines so my point stands. The Dawn of X is just another arc in the comics landscape and it's canon as canon can be. No point lamenting things you have zero power to control. Find joy elsewhere

Great overview

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

thank you. I appreciate that

It's fire

See i thought Moira was cloned by Sinister and all the lives before were fragments not that she actually had some time-travel impact.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

the impact comes in the form of those who remember or any knowledge ofthe events

I really like the early run of this, but then Dominion happened and everything just went into chaos.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

yea they have not really fleshed the Dominion threat out to make the concept easy to grasp

I've always wondered how professor X got the wifi cerebro and the ability to walk.

So is Moriah just re living the same life in different dimensions?

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

yes and no. It's a reset but only she is aware. The other timelines are a part of the multiverse and do continue on as a branch from the main timeline. Its all quite confusing to explain lol

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Its like she is time loop marker. Everything before her powers manifested in her first life is set and after her powers is more fluid or at least granular and can be altered. Will be altered. Just her reliving and aware of the past ensures that things will play out differently.

@Logie11

3 ай бұрын

Thanks

I think jean and monet are way to powerful to just be killed off the way they did.

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

I mean they attacked an anti-mutant organizations giant space station...a station filled with soldiers trained to kill powerful mtuants with advanced AI and tech made specificlly for killing ...mutants

People really love this story and I don't get why. I was talking to a friend about this a month or two ago, I told him these sorts of stories are why people are jumping to mangas and ditching Marvel. Death means nothing anymore. No "sacrifice" is really a sacrifice because that character died like 20x already and you know they will be back. I remember seeing the X-men die in this comic and coming back to life on the same issue (maybe it was the next, I can't remember) and thinking how lame it was. In the end, I am glad people are enjoying it, but for this is weak.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

I hear this a lot from people claiming "lazy writers" when in fact you're a "lazy reader" who can't grasp themes and concepts and instead bash the material and attempt to alienate people who do understand the story's message. If the only thing I see a person bemoan is the resurrection aspect I know they didn't read or can't comprehend.

@DaUziel

2 ай бұрын

​@FandomSage Oh okay so it's not just me, ya'll are lunatic fans and this is as garbage as it seems

@Evil0tto

Ай бұрын

@@FandomSage Way to attack someone who disagrees with you. Looks like there's no reason to pay attention to your channel.

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

@@Evil0tto what are you talking about? You're welcome to just not engage you know?

@LiteralApe

Ай бұрын

I mean hes just another guy on the internet just like you, he can respond like anyone else. Just because he has a channel has nothing to do with it​@Evil0tto

BRING KRAKOA BACK AGAIN 🎉🎉🎉

@colingibson1998

2 ай бұрын

So biscally make the x men bigots and separatests again ehh no thanks

The homosexuals LOVE this arch

@FandomSage

3 ай бұрын

Which arch? The arch in your back? The golden arches? I've never been to St. Louis

@Thejmack115

2 ай бұрын

Yep that pretty much sums it up a book for moral degenerates and professional victims with more than an overture of left-wing fascism thrown in there

Apocalypse turned into a busta.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

Apocalypse had regrets and flaws

Moira being a mutant with reincarnation abilities is SO interesting that I hope that we get to see it adapted, either in the MCU or in X-Men ‘97. I don’t imagine this would actually happen, it could technically happen after the events of episode 5. [SPOILERS for X-Men ’97] It was specifically called out that Moira, a human, being on the Genosha council was strange, and she ended up being killed along with Banshee and many others. They could have her eventually return somehow with the knowledge of the events that transpired.

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

trust I was the Leonardo Dicaprio meme pointing at the tv lol

I would watch the whole thing but how u read or speak Like there Is a big Paused after saying A couple words. Totally throws me off

@FandomSage

2 ай бұрын

thanks for the feedback

hold on is moira reincarnating or is she being reborn in a time loop because wouldn't charles be like 60 by time she marries him in her 4th life?

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

both

@FandomSage

Ай бұрын

and he and everyone else would probably be dead way before that if it wasn't a loop

this is wild🧐

Jonathan Hickman is a really good writer imo even tho the krakoan era kinda sucks xD