Thorin missed the opportunity to introduce Rob as Finnish Broky

@trollface9903

2 ай бұрын

Talks way too much to be Finnish broky, although I get what you mean lol

Robu and Thorin in the same podcast sitting and talking for nearly 2 hours? Now this is a fucking goldmine! Excited to listen to this one.

It's great that Robu is getting attention outside of Finland! I've been following him since 2018 when he did few demo reviews. TORILLE o7

Whenever there’s a guest on here I’m not familiar with, they always really impress me. Maybe this Thorin guy really does have an eye for talent in cs?

@saratchandrab4384

3 ай бұрын

That was his hot take in the recent HTPM podcast lol

@ourboyhemingway

3 ай бұрын

@@saratchandrab4384 ya that’s my reference :)

@aryotaheri7421

3 ай бұрын

I’m sorry, what’s a Thorin? Did you mean esports?

@charu1473

3 ай бұрын

Thorin gets forgiven for all of his twitter persona shit for cultivating the next generation of CS analyst talent not to mention the reflections series and making CS esports podcasts actually good

@ourboyhemingway

3 ай бұрын

@@charu1473ya I don’t use twitter so can’t comment on that but he absolutely carries the pro CS YT content space… HTPM, this show, reflections, I’m blanking on the name of the show he does with maniac, thorins thoughts etc

As a big jimpphat fan, hearing robu's good point immediately made this a banger episode

Would love to see this guy on again. Really great guest.

This Robu guy is nice fresh addition to the scene.

Bring Robu on more often!

Broky has a brother in Finland? Wild... :p

Love to see Robu as a guest!!

Robu out there looking like freddie mercury

Maui: People probably think I’m just going to hate on skullz *proceeds to hate on skullz*

@rare8567

3 ай бұрын

maui literally got a one track mind when he grinds the axe, the fact hes talking about dropping skullz instead of yekindar is insane.

@astar2394

2 ай бұрын

@@rare8567 he makes it pretty clear his main gripe is that skullz is no way worth 600k buyout. i thought he was actually pretty kind towards skullz in this ep. the thing is that yekindar has shown what he is capable of as an entry and it's not unreasonable he can get somewhere close to that again. skullz sadly is 'alright' at best.

@rare8567

2 ай бұрын

skullz did well at chengdu and can be a good system player, yekindar has not delivered for ages, hes washed, i hope he can come back to his old form cos he was great to watch but it wont happen in liquid theres too much water under the bridge. Yekindar will do the most bizarre things when you watch him because hes just lost his confidence i assume, Skulls will never reach peak yekindar but he could become a great system player, yes they paid too much for him but hes not the part that is missing in this team.

@astar2394

2 ай бұрын

@@rare8567 fuck man, if a 1.01 rating for a 600k player is doing 'well' at an event then I honestly don't know if I can reason with you.

Robu is the goat caster in Finland

Torille! 🇫🇮

Thought the guest was broky lol

@RobuJohnson

3 ай бұрын

I look like a 23 year old? I’ll take that!

@dmitrykim3096

3 ай бұрын

​@@RobuJohnsonyou could pass as 15 years old :-) your mistache are quite young

@deepfxd8

3 ай бұрын

How old are you brother?​@@RobuJohnson

@RobuJohnson

3 ай бұрын

@@deepfxd8 30!

@deepfxd8

3 ай бұрын

@@RobuJohnson you look young buddy :)

This Robu guy is awesome! Great that you got him on the show

hyvin taittuu englanti robulla!

That full metal alchemist reference was banger

maui describes a good team. good team is sufficient. the redpilled definition of superteam is a slur for non-salary capped rosters that are born of buying expensive players who have a lot of prior individual accolades from other lineups that are overly hyped, come together and typically fail (2023 Cloud9, Astralis etc.). VP are a good team and bought 1 top 5 player, even if they had "homegrown" top 10 players which they don't, how would that be a superteam compared to a good/great team like 2015 fnatic or 2018 astralis?

@launders

3 ай бұрын

good video though +finnish

@averageanikienjoyer4156

3 ай бұрын

what is blud waffling about

@McChickenJOI

3 ай бұрын

u are so real for this

@romaliop

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Superteams are by definition teams that combine more star power than you would ever need for a great team. Electronic joining VP shifts them from having zero actual star players into having one such player. Cloud9 adding Perfecto and electronic gave a team with a star duo another star duo on top of that, or so was the perception. That you can call a superteam, or at least a fraudulent one seeing that axile was nowhere near a star and could hardly be trusted to be even mediocre for that matter.

I think those player profiles are really important. I think there is a very real chance that that is how I became a fan of players.

Wow we have Thin Broky as Guest.

1:29:40 “Stabbi and Javn” doesn’t even register with any of them at this point. they will never escape their new names 😂😂

@pinkocean310

3 ай бұрын

it's Naphony all over again

@d.cirovic1695

2 ай бұрын

The nochalant Stabbi and javn is the best one so far

Torilla tavataan. Great episode. I hope Jimpphat can continue his great form, but I somewhat feel like it has been little bit too good to be maintainable. He has a promising future regardless.

48:00 glad to see thorins use of formula 1 analogies has drastically improved.

Thorin always try to bring out the potential talents. Kudos

Thanks ❤

TORILLE 🇫🇮

The k0nfig thing is just a misunderstanding. When k0nfig joined, hampus wasn't even on the team. Then they had REZ, Brollan and k0nfig as the rifle trio. Brollan and k0nfig had a massive role conflict and there was even some overlap with REZ as well. REZ was basically put into support roles at that point. Brollan and k0nfig, however, did actually share positions based on the map. On some maps Brollan had his preferred role and k0nfig was playing in a new position for him, and vice versa. So instead of just putting one of them into their preferred roles on all maps and let the other try to learn new positions on all maps, they juggled between them in a way that Brollan might play aggro in map1 of a bo3 series, then k0nfig plays aggro in map2 and for the decider Brollan is again playing aggro. So you are not doing the same things and communicating in the same way from one map to another. This was a bad way to try to fix the massive problem that was created when k0nfig was signed to replace hampus, which never made sense rolewise. When hampus joined back after aleksib was kicked, things may have been different. But k0nfig definitely didn't lie, as hampus insinuates.

27:35 "Dead corpse of Adren" fucking killed me LOL

It seems Maui borrowed Kassad's 240p ultra sonic webcam in this episode. Overall great episode good guess GG's

"Lisan al gaib" had me burst out laughing. Great episode, cheers.

The contrast of this G2 roster with the pressure and the expectations that Faze have been able to pretty much maintain throughout CS2 just shows the difference

amazing FMA reference by Thorin.

robu in the big leagues

That’s brilliant! Let’s stay in touch :)

Yeaaaa ROBUU! o/

Robu was great!

VP baby. I been a fan since Avangar. This is deserved

Thorin rant about g2 was fire 🔥🔥

Interesting! Let’s stay in touch.

happy wednesday lads

Thorin's reaction to Spirit playing at BetBoom Belgrade 😂 as their next tournament.

Having listened to all the Snake and Banters, Counter-Points, By the Numbers and Hot Takes, it was unreal being on the show. Thanks for having me! 🫡

@OskarHowell99

3 ай бұрын

Reuploading my question 😇 in your opinion, how does Jimi stack up to Sergej? Has he surpassed him already? Understanding they played different roles of course.

@iironurmi869

3 ай бұрын

Must be surreal! You held your own and some. Super nice appearance! I hope you do more of these 🎉

@kohuseurakaunotar

3 ай бұрын

Torille,BREIKATTII

@Ugsdaman

3 ай бұрын

@@OskarHowell99robu has made a video about this question, u can check if theres subtitles in the video

@josephadcock7449

3 ай бұрын

You were awesome on the show first time hearing of you

20:05 ultimate gooning cs

BANGERRRR

How cool that you got Ben Shapiro on, I didn't expect him to be so knowledgeable about cs

0:00 Woah, how did broky grow hair so quickly?

nice video

Great new guest. Also crazy that he went pro with 5k hours when lots of people are semi pro with 11-17k hours

Robuuuu my mann😍

Robu

chopper wasnt igl in vega squadron iirc. he only became one in spirit

1:06:40 i think the opposite is true. How many times have we seen young stars just pop off, play 10 lans without stopping and thinking. Its one of those things, it sucks for us, but i think its good for spirit that they have time to reevaluate what they are doing right and wrong. Even more so after a game like the Faze vertigo map. Everything I have seen from halley their coach just tells me he will point out every detail they did wrong and he isn't afraid to literally call them shit or a player out for being dumb. Even donk, who had a few mistakes, with over peeking and not knowing when to fall back or ask for flashes. I am sure they are working on all of this as we speak. And months in scrims where they can re train their muscle or brain memory to make it second nature is better then flying to lan to lan to lan and never actually developing.

So cool! Shall we connect?

The most painful about the death of Team Spirit is that they turned down the Pro League invite

1:29:41 stabbi and javn

@michnasss9433

3 ай бұрын

He said the thing

Nice

Frozen has to be high up there right now. His floor is really high

Luckily the situation with the lack of maps is not yet so critical for Donk, as to deny him the potential HLTV #1. Currently Donk has 29 LAN maps this year, Zywoo has 35. If Zywoo goes all the way in Pro League, he will not get more than around 20 map. So he will have 55 map vs 29. Howerver, since Donk plays BB Dacha and Zywoo does not, even if Spirit play bad and go out in the groups somehow, they should get at least around 6 maps from that tournament, which would bring Donk’s map number to 35, so the difference would be 20 maps between Zywoo and Donk. After BB Dacha, both Zywoo and Donk will have all the same tournaments, so even if we assume that they both perform equally well in the remaining tournaments of the year, and the 20 map difference shall still be present when the year ends, it is not a big enough difference to be a deciding factor in HLTV rating, especially if Donk’s rating shall still be significantly higher than Zywoo’s. In 2022 Zywoo also had about 20 more maps than S1mple and the same rating, but S1mple still got #1 that year, because other factors, such the number of MVPs, were given more weight. Thus, absent any unexpected problems, such as problems with visas, Donk should still be in the best position to get HLTV #1 at the end of the year.

@allmite

3 ай бұрын

@davidmontgomery1442 These are your subjective superstitions. Spirit, on average, will be playing against better teams at Betboom Dacha than Vitality will in Pro League, thus those maps will have more value, in my opinion. Also, BB team is not even in that tournament this time.

@allmite

3 ай бұрын

@davidmontgomery1442 I didn’t say that the tournaments themselves are equal, I commented on the quality of opponents. Vitality in their Pro League group will be playing against "Sharks" and then the winner of m80/Betboom. In other words, tier 2/3 teams. BB dacha, on the other hand, has only 2 such teams, and Spirit might not even play against them at all. Everyone else at that tournament is top 3-13. Thus, even though the tournament itself is less prestigious, I don’t think it would be appropriate to give less weight to the maps played in it, if they are played against better quality opposition. In any case, I highly doubt that the race for HLTV #1 this year will be so close that something as trivial and petty as this will actually be taken into consideration. And I am talking about Zywoo instead of m0NESY because even though I am a m0NESY fan, I cannot reasonably expect him to keep up this insane carrying, it cannot be sustainable. Thus, I also do not expect his team to go as far as Spirit or Vitality in the remaining tournaments of the year, unfortunately.

Totally agree with Thorin ! Device shows no leader mentality at all. Punching the monitor is such an immature move. Embarrassing !!

-Hooxi -Hunter +Gla1ve +Nertz Thoughts?

also, im being slowly influenced to watch Dune. keep hearing Dune references being made like Lisan Al Gaib and Kwisatz Hederach

Konfig to falcons

32:30 Your aim is the first thing that gets away from you , that's why IGLs have way longer careers , they rely more on their brain power and not just mechanics .

Love 4 u! xo. Feel free to reach out.

20:04 🤣

he looks like AJ from the sopranos. not young AJ, but adult AJ.

@RobuJohnson

3 ай бұрын

lol just googled this to remember how he looks like. You're not wrong I guess

29:30 electronic as IGL for the first time in his life with NaVi had 0.91 Npl 1.02 perfecto 1.07 b1t , and not the best simple 1.18 and still made Semis of Katowice , Semis of RIO , Semis of EPL17 , Legends of Paris . - I don't think this is a failure by any stretch of the imagination taking into consideration the circumstances .

Does anyone know what the “i test” is?

@ek02600

3 ай бұрын

Eye test I think

@ek02600

3 ай бұрын

Eye test I think

@jks1756

3 ай бұрын

@@ek02600 oh yeah, do you know what they mean by it?

@peepopoo4387

3 ай бұрын

@@jks1756 It means watch the game yourself and realize that someone like xertioN who is constantly holding W to create space and opportunities for his team isn't going to put up a 1.2 rating like a passive player who waits for the best fights to come their way in a round.

@jks1756

3 ай бұрын

@@peepopoo4387 I gotcha, thanks!

if there are still no changes to g2 AND m0nesy STILL STAYS. then i think he might be sabotaging his own career.

Torille!

Maui 'circle back' Snake

The JKS hype would be justified if he consistently played like Jimpphat does.

The worst part about the spirit part is that they won't be at pro league either and they next they will play is in a month

Super!! Shall we be friends?

I view TL like I viewed Cadian's Heroic. I don't think they have the raw firepower or hard carry to beat the big dogs on the biggest stages. Naf and Twistzz are both second and third stars who the community glazes like they are gods. They need an Elige who is going to just not let the team lose certain games on big stages and will them to wins. I also disagree with Maui saying -skullz + jks. This team already has passive fraggers, I get they need an anchor still and that there is two sites, but they also need someone who is going to open up rounds on T-side.

EI VITTU ROBU

LOL 1:18:18

Toril 🗿

no

Torille

From the thumbnail robu looks like broky

The problem with liquid is still Yekindar. Even yesterday I saw TL play in an NA qualifier for the esports world cup on GOTV and on Yekindar's POV even against tier 2 NA he looks really trash and whiffs so many shots.

i like how people think how good sh1ro is, but remeber on major playoff he is 0.9 rating player.

1:16:30 its because you two are just bullying the fuck out of him and it took you months to realize that maybe, just maybe he is not the only one responsible for the G2 placings at tournaments

stabbi and yawn hahahahah 1:29:40

Robu so handsome!

Zywoo really lives Rent Free in Thorin's head. Even when he is not playing, even when no one is talking about him, Thorin never fails to bring him up. Zywoo has been better than Niko, since CS2, but he criticizes Zywoo and praises Niko. Truly knows nothing about CS plus filled with hate and anger and frustration.

@elizabethmurigi1131

2 ай бұрын

Pointing out that one of the greatest players of all times has a choking problem in Majors and prestige events isn't hating. To whom much is given much is expected. Even Blad3 said it on HLTV Confirmed yesterday. So, does Blad3 hate ZywOo?

Konfig to BLEED, pls Kassad

@kutagen

3 ай бұрын

Konfig would last about 30 minutes in a team with Kassad as GM.

Spirit refused to play on esl pro 19, thye were invited when c9 recused to play

@vedser

2 ай бұрын

Because its to late

@dmitrykim3096

2 ай бұрын

@@vedser yep but still it's a long tournament that lasts for a couple of weeks

@vedser

2 ай бұрын

@@dmitrykim3096 what does the length has to do with it?

@dmitrykim3096

2 ай бұрын

@@vedser even if they are not too prepared because of the short notice they could have recovered during the tournament. It's just frustrating that they are losing rankings and chance to get top 1 in the end of the year just because they are skipping events

@vedser

2 ай бұрын

@@dmitrykim3096 it could be a visa issue they are currently in indonesia getting a us visa

jame the edgelord

That betboom tourney had different versions of every in game map with ads all over the walls. So they arent even playing on official valve maps

Not against Nexa whatsoever, however whole world knows before he join, G2 has perfect team, but g2 org was so blind to see that and destroyed rock solid team, that’s why fans all around the world really got mad benching JKS!

@vedser

2 ай бұрын

Calling a team with hooxi perfect

Another K0nfig defense/Apologist.... K0nfig was playing in a structured team. It was Astralis and he was still rowdy. There was an Interview with BlameF and k0nfig in one the blast series. Where BlameF as funny anecdote said that k0nfig wont listen to Gla1ve when in pistol or save round where Gla1ve would ask him to buy smoke or flash. k0nfig would just buy deagle and say sorry boss. next time for sure.... That's K0nfig. I agree with Maui here. Its done. K0nfig defense needs to stop. Hate's when someone bottle necks a great player. BlameF gets free pass.

Around the same time as CS 1.6 was out, there was a team based FPS Wolfenstein Enemy Territory. Finns really owned in that game. They had exceptional aim and gamesense. For some reason, very few top players are Finns in CS2

Whys Maui so stuck in his VP superteam take. Theyre having norbert, flit and fame. Theyre not.

22:10 in what world is VP a super team ? - Jame is not a star awper , he isn't even the 3rd best awper from the CIS , maybe a solid IGL (they made no playoffs this year so even that is debatable) . - Electronic hasn't been a Top 20 player for 2 years now , he's been solid this year though . - FL1T and Fame never been Top 20 players ever , their stats are inflated because of the RMR and the closed qualifiers for Dallas .

@Mauisnake

3 ай бұрын

-only not top20 because not enough maps last year -everyone with eyes and a pulse would say jame is a top5 igl right now -5x major winners -norbert literally is the highest rated overpass player last 6 months on LAN top20 you want lifetime achievements? they have the hardware you want recent stats? the numbers show fl1t and norbert are both insane right now the buyout price? 1.5m. you dont spend that if you arent building a superteam. hltv top20 peddlers are so cringe and i question if they ever truly think for themselves

@peepopoo4387

3 ай бұрын

@@Mauisnake To further sing Norbert's praise, he's putting up those stats on Overpass while anchoring B-site on CT. He doesn't even get to farm next to Jame's awp in bathrooms.

@romaliop

3 ай бұрын

@@Mauisnake There are no real star IGLs. That just doesn't count for anything. Norbert may be a star on overpass, but he's a mid player on the rest of the pool. There are plenty of non-star players in the scene who also have great stats on individual maps. Real star players are the ones that are great on most maps and mid on one or two individual maps, not the other way around. Both fl1t and fame have good stats only because 2/3 of their games have been against teams outside the top10 and they have a high floor as a team. Neither of these guys have shown any star quality against actually good teams. Even karrigan has better rating against top5 than this duo over the past 3 months ffs. If this VP is supposed to be a superteam, then it's the weakest superteam ever assembled on paper. Might not be the weakest in reality, because superteams usually end up in disaster. But even that will only underline the fact that they're not a superteam.

Maui is tweaking. Sh1ro is not top 5 in the world😂😂😂

@sentryion3106

3 ай бұрын

Hes probably top 10 at best. Then again we don't have enough sample size for him to see because spirit just doesn't get to play that many games at all.

Jimpact/ Jimmphact.

Mate said he wants valley to make video about jL xd😅