Worst Major Run in History? NAVI Win AGAIN. Fraudwatching + hatemaxxing PGL Copenhagen MAJOR
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0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Crazy stat
3:25 - JL mvp
5:00 - iM welcome home
7:50 - aleksib LOVE
15:15 - wrap up
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@kikoredog
Ай бұрын
bro the only fraud to watch for is your pick ems nuking 70% of the community coins
@campbellgittrich7781
Ай бұрын
why is sam sulek in the background
Did we just witness the worst Launders playoffs pickems in history?
@Flashv28
Ай бұрын
historic event
@rasmusstenak7566
Ай бұрын
i mean…. Can’t possibly be worse, he went 0/4 🫣🫣🫣
@identifiesas65.wheresmyche95
Ай бұрын
Fraudwatch?!
@user-fc8xw4fi5v
Ай бұрын
Absolutely SEETHING
@StealthyRifleman
Ай бұрын
man i should've gone with pimpcs picks. Gold looks so much better than silver.
Launders tryng not to make eveyrthing about cloud9s Boston Run Challenge (Impossible)
Silver coin brothers wya
@K_End
Ай бұрын
Diamond coin doesn't even look good 😤
@BeaverII
Ай бұрын
We are everywhere brother
@frumpyglint
Ай бұрын
Im here brother! It does look more like bronze in game though 😂.
@erne1685
Ай бұрын
skill issue i got gold
@CerealFapist
Ай бұрын
maybe cope but silver and blue is fire lol
vitality at paris was a bigger fraud. they only played tier2-3 and they still struggled on too many maps
@ugandanchungus8455
Ай бұрын
This. Navi took down at least 1 tier 1 team in playoffs unlike vitality, but both runs were easier than other the major winning runs by other teams
@noobmaster69isonvacation99
Ай бұрын
Not their fault though that liquid/ heroic didnt make it to semis/ finals. Also they won the major without losing a map so they did everything they could.
@i4dry
Ай бұрын
i mean, if tier 1 lost against tier 2-3 like u said, then why vitality didnt too ? If vita won the major its cause they didnt lose any maps they played
@djMiastar
Ай бұрын
Funny that 2 of these so-called t2-3 players won this Major ...
@i4dry
Ай бұрын
@@djMiastar exactly lol
Racism just cant stop taking L’s during majors 😢
Navi is responsible for the best major run and the worst major run
@inho5399
Ай бұрын
vitality paris? the most garbage run we've ever seen. even outsiders had to beat heroic in finals to win
@dmitrykim3096
Ай бұрын
@@inho5399 we don't count Paris, it was a major mess
@bigdave9188
Ай бұрын
They beat 3 good teams I have no idea why there's this narrative that this run was bad
@inho5399
Ай бұрын
@@bigdave9188 they're all acting like they didnt have eternal fire beating navi 💀
@inho5399
Ай бұрын
@@dmitrykim3096 lol.
I don't think the win was a fluke, but I also don't think that any 1 team is truly in a dominant era that makes the big events easy to predict. An exciting time to be a CS fan for sure :)
@donH022
Ай бұрын
fluke or not, a win is a win. Salty people will say anything just because they lose, or their favorite team lose.
@scuckplexity
Ай бұрын
Also on quite possibly the most competitive era we have ever seen so far
@grybore3789
Ай бұрын
Couldn't have said it better. After so many roster changes last year, we have a very competitive scene now. Previously, we always had two same 2top teams battling for the #1 and pretty much no breakthrough from any other team. This year we can see Spirit domination, saw and EF coming to t1, mouz starting to look like a title contender team.
We have a saying for this in the ice hockey scene: "Win the right games."
@davidedlund2141
Ай бұрын
Wow that is very deep man!
@ropz_karambit1494
Ай бұрын
What a revelation!
@davidedlund2141
Ай бұрын
@@ropz_karambit1494 These hockey players man, they are poets and huge thinkers!
@TeemuSintonen
Ай бұрын
@@ropz_karambit1494 Yeah, it's actually that simple. But "analysts" be like: "Oh noo, see it was actually a fluke because stats!" Winning is the only stat that matters. So, win the right games.
Ethernal Fire - Faze - 13:1 Ethernal Fire - NAVI - 0:2 Faze - Spirit - 2:1 Faze - NAVI - 1:2 G2 - MOUZ - 2:0 G2 - NAVI 1:2 NAVI won the playoffs against strong teams, and they deservedly won the cup
@lol-fs9rr
Ай бұрын
g2 are only in the playoffs because nivdia and eternal fire are fraud onliners wdym
@mum-your
Ай бұрын
@@lol-fs9rr ??? eternal fire reached playoffs on lan
@llllNEOllllchannel
Ай бұрын
yet navi lost to c9 and spirit in group stage ...
@bascbasc4886
Ай бұрын
@@llllNEOllllchannel .....and later won Major.. that's why they are champions who know how to win the most important matches
@llllNEOllllchannel
Ай бұрын
@@bascbasc4886 I mean it doesn't matter who they played against in final, semi, quarter. They would play against strongest teams anyway and they actually did. You want to prove that Launders wrong by showing results and scores, but it doesn't really go well for navi run since navi lost to teams that lost to teams that lost to navi, in bo3. Navi victory is deserved but the problem is that there are no such thing as underserved victories.
hatemaxxing g2 for benching jks, there's a reason faze won vs g2 in kato with jks and g2 won vs faze kato also with jks next year
@moreinterestng3144
Ай бұрын
exactly bruh its so fucking stupid, jks is such a goated player, his clutches? his b site anchors? they were impeccable
@sumirekosanshokuin9537
Ай бұрын
vibes bro
@xlgapelsin6173
Ай бұрын
Well they made major semis with nexa and didn't with jks. With nexa they atleast get to playoffs and if Niko and Hunter actually performed they have a very good chance at going to finals
@kylemalcolm2402
Ай бұрын
@@xlgapelsin6173 Nexa only showed up on Anubis and is a worse option than jks. G2 lost when they continued to egopeek JL on ancient after his ace. I truly believe that if JL doesn’t get that ace then we would’ve seen a G2 vs Faze final.
@FilipCordas
Ай бұрын
Will people stop with this jks nonsense, nexa was like the second-best guy for g2 in most maps, problem with g2 is Niko not being able to play cs2 hunter being terrible and hooksy not having anything when they start losing. jks was not even good let alone the reason for g2 playing well.
NaVi was the least picked team to win. How the turn tables
@bladerunner4425
Ай бұрын
I picked them to win the event, no joking 😅 Still gold coin
@laurentiumocacoca175
Ай бұрын
Same.. First stage got me fucked up, cuz i thought the pickems worked the same as last years @@bladerunner4425
@Kod3N_
Ай бұрын
@@bladerunner4425 you was really thinking they will won? Or you do it for fun?
@hanslal5782
Ай бұрын
@@Kod3N_ i did, ibelieved in the aleksib system, if you watch closely through the major they were cooking on some crazy strats, especially mid round. it seemed like navi always game to the games with no strat and adapted to what the opposing team were playing, especially when they call a timeout they are always cooking behind the mics.
@shady6131
Ай бұрын
true, navi fumbles the ball a lot, but when u see how the rounds go where they win, they're very dominant and amazing. they just need to be more consistent. their strats and plays are good enough, they just need all their players to be consistent
Honestly I am just happy that NaVi gave us two exciting three mappers in playoffs. NaVi vs G2 was probably my favourite major playoff match I have ever seen.
@toucheCS2
Ай бұрын
Spirit faze map 3 vertigo was nuts
IT'S NOT ABOUT STATS IT'S ABOUT WILLPOWER
@jimboc669
Ай бұрын
It's about drive, it's about power...
"m0nesy is the mvp in spirit" is a quite funny wording
I gotta say, there is nobody I wanted to win this major more than Navi. It's just so beautiful to see this team succeed. There is something I want to point out that rarely ever gets mentioned. If you watch the Navi vlogs and hear their comms, iM is the guy who gives all the info, he helps Aleksi with calling, and does everything he can to help his team. He also has a very strong mental, and as we've seen over the years (looking at you Niko), that is simply REQUIRED to win a major. My hot take is this: if Navi went -iM +s1mple before the major, there is no chance in hell they even make it to the playoff stage.
@grybore3789
Ай бұрын
My hot take: niko would succeed if you gave blade a cane for punishments and put niko under his supervision.
what is up with people saying it was a fluke? That they were just lucky? It's obvious these guys have put in so much to get that trophy and the bracket was hard too, they proved themselves. Yes they have a good record against G2 but they still needed to win the match, and going against faze, the ranked no.1 team, is a behemoth of a challenge. NaVi won and it wasn't a fluke, and teams should not be questioned on whether it was a legitimate victory unless they are cheating. They are the champions.
The fluke angle doesn't track at all for me. EF shoot hard, it's not a walkover. Then they meet the best player at the major, probably the most impactful player in the world atm in m0nesy. Then they beat the most experienced playoff team in the final. You don't have to look far for a much easier run at the major. Like Paris for example. I didn't see anyone calling the Vitality run a fluke even though they only beat teams that were there only because of upsets and had 0 playoff experience at big events.
@63alkash
Ай бұрын
Didn't you, really
@d.cirovic1695
Ай бұрын
Everyone called the vitality run a joke. Literally everyone.
I think wonderful deserves more flowers for this major. He absolutely carried Navi through that EF game and was hitting necessary shots throughout the playoffs. Very reliable and the clutch ability is nuts.
There’s a growing movement that wants you to make a shrimp pasta cooking video
This major was fun to watch. Great matches and moments culminating with an underdog winning it all. Really couldn't have asked for much more 👍
iM my beloved
@ceoherohub2584
Ай бұрын
Underserved hate hltv rating geeks in shambles
Why is it in CS that people almost always say a team "chokes" or "doesn't show up" when they lose badly. Most of the time they get outplayed or simply unlucky. Of course AFTER you have already been losing a lot you start crumbling mentally. In the Final Karrigan simply outplayed aleksi on mirage and on inferno all Navi players showed up with b1t playing like his 2021 self. Nobody crumbled.
@jimjunglecock2866
Ай бұрын
Navi did play good but it’s not wrong to say faze played like shit and should’ve played better
@RareMaestro
Ай бұрын
I have to agree with you, map 1 they went toe to toe. Map 2 Faze crushed them with all the momentum being with Faze. To come back from that and played like they did... Come on, give credit where credit is due. NAVI WON the major, Faze did not lose it. Just because they were the underdogs doesn't mean they didn't outplay Faze. NAVI's players just played better... period
0:00 1st thing you see JMajor MVP
The way I see it, Na'Vi is a team that's composition is greater than the sum of its parts. No matter what team they are playing they will play good, they have insane consistency at the moment. Not long ago NaVi was one of only 2 teams that was even able to get maps against Spirit, the other being mouz that actually beat them. This has to be because of Blade's phenomenal coaching and mentorship of these players. And something tells me that this team is just getting their era started, bold prediction but I just have a feeling.
@launders
Ай бұрын
I think they are worse than the sum of their parts. iM looks almost useless. B1t was very inconsistent of the final and wonderful is not carrying as an awper
@7rook768
Ай бұрын
@@launders so, you agree with the comment? the parts individually aren't very good, but put together they perform. iM stat-wise useless, b1t inconsistent stats, w0nderful not topping the stats every time, yet they won the major, so their team is better than the (individual statistic....) parts
Love how my navi boys gone and done it, love it. Commentators were disrespecting them way too much, and you still are which is sad. It's obvious you guys need to respect them more.
@clinsen8576
Ай бұрын
preach
@launders
Ай бұрын
Respect is earned, the truth is important anyone who argues against that is disrespecting the game and its history. True fans don’t pick teams I don’t know what disrespect you were talking about but they had some bad games this major
@hehmde
Ай бұрын
@launders they had bad games ONLY because they have IM in team, he was losing all games solo
@Dynamicpea
Ай бұрын
@launders so winning against g2 who has monesy with an mvp performance and a faze on fire is not quality? Winning a major is not earning respect? What respect have you earned then? All you do is talk. 🤔
@rashadvsyou
Ай бұрын
You’re a cornball lol
Waunders can't stop talking Ws after Ws
Silver coin crew checking in
Best cs2 major of all time but yall still hating smh lol
@AstroSully
Ай бұрын
🤣
happy to see another solid upload, keep up the good content
you can hate on navis win all you want but they played better than people are giving them credit for. that table @3:45 ? the top 2? lost to navi. it takes a lot to break faze and g2 on lan. i think people are confused because there's no s1mple to accredit this win to - no star player, and people cant explain to themselves how navi won without just a massive carry.
Well as u said it was the most stacked playoffs how does it surprise you it was with 50% round wins. And it's stupid to watch stats on navi, they never die for nothing, they always die for some positive impact. The only stupid death I remember was when jL pushed banana as sole b player in 3v2 in finals. But in the long run it's good death, they weren't afraid to play. And people said b1t didn't show up untill inferno, but the enemies avoided him like sickness. Like g2 putting m0nesy to hold him, not going to his site. The only time they do is when they setup counterplay him with niko. And if you go rewatch, w0nderful was out of this world lol. Saved their ass so many times like jL
@launders
Ай бұрын
Cause Navi were on the easier side
@hehmde
Ай бұрын
@launders didn't know that Vitality with 1.10 rating Zywoo and clown9 is harder than mousesports, EF and G2. XD
@zullemobile
Ай бұрын
@@hehmde yeah m0nesy with kovacs is an EZ win.
Shoutout to launders! The first caster/analyst that says that iM isnt used properly in the team. I have said it so many times, he isnt made to be a lurker imo, this role takes a lot of gamesense and experiente, which he doesnt have. He can be a rlly good entry or second entry, but too soon to be a lurker. His Nuke CT is trash tho. His CTs are sometimes horrible, idk why.
I swear the background gets more insane the longer you look at it and I lov eit
I enjoy the fraudwatch, but I feel like your fraud-scope is out of alignment. NAVI NATION!
Worst major run was Vitality in Paris 2023 for sure, the teams they had to beat made it seem like a mickey mouse tournament. NAVI faced against the strongest player in playoffs (G2 M0nesy) and a FaZe Clan that knocked out both Spirit and Vitality. ????
@kye4216
Ай бұрын
People are just salty their pickems were wrong
nice meeting u at the major, thank you for signing my hat :D
Short answer - no Long answer - no, look at the last 2 major runs
@spladoinkk
Ай бұрын
all three were absolutely garbage. navi sucks but faze sucked even more
@gcsam11
Ай бұрын
@@spladoinkk Navi won against two top 5 teams and their run sucked?
@spladoinkk
Ай бұрын
@@gcsam11 this guy is taking hltv rankings seriously😭😭😭😭
@EntrEsprit
Ай бұрын
@@spladoinkk even outside of hltv rankings i think the consensus is that Faze and G2 are in top 5 (arguable with Mouz, but Mouz got demolished personally by G2)
@hehmde
Ай бұрын
@@spladoinkk why you mad bro
I did not expect that Blasdfa shoutout. OG movement king
Yeah but I have a gold coin and you don’t so when I say NAVI run was the greatest run in CS history it means more 😂
17:07 best part
Launders: ”So the current event with a bunch of top teams just happened, team x beat team Y and met team Z in the final. This reminds me of the 2018 boston major where cloud 9…”
HELL YES ANOTHER VID TRMW! love the content bro!
finally back to laundersmaxxing, hope you enjoyed Copenhagen
@launders
Ай бұрын
Thank you I very much did !
Lau, what happened to the trippy Winamp visualizer graphics? Who will I watch when I get high now. lol
Aleksib + Blade combo is definetely cooking in the kitchen, but NAVI needs to give them better ingredients if they're going to consistently compete for the trophies. I give 100% credit to the IGL + coach combo, but the rest are debatable. Time will tell.
in Romania (mostly Bucharest) we had a great internet-cafe culture starting with the red alert/starcraft days (just LAN no internet) to quake2/half life (pirated btw) and when the CS beta arrived (i remember we played 747 and prodigy) and all computers were running it, then with 1.5 and 1.6 on private romanian servers (0 ping) no one was playing anything else, and to this day CS has a rich history here.
hope the Launders LAN goes well bud. much love from west coast Canada
is there any better thing in life then starting ur day with breakfast, a hot cup of coffee and a new episode of fraudwatching?
Why do you always mention Karrigan, when you talk about Faze losing. It's a team game and the loss is not on him alone. The hate towards Karrigan is getting out of hand...
Europeans still kicking rocks when you tell them NA had the hardest major run of all time.
hey Mr Launders was nice meeting you in arena :0
Launders, correct me if I'm wrong, but this round win % being low is because they lost from a huge margin in maps that they lost, but won by a small margin in maps that they won, right?
@launders
Ай бұрын
Yes
As some one who has never watched a major untill this year this was a great event.
@launders
Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
what is that top right corner photo with Henry i don't understand Launders??.
Definitely agree with your point about iM. Love to see that!
least salty faze shill
iM is now more involved in team play as a 2nd caller and helps alot with nades if you check his impact at this major u will get shocked is the 2nd highest impact in the team
i'm excited for Launders Lan 4 in Thunder Bay
The spirit game was my grand final . A Bo3 final was very underwhelming
18 maps 1.22 still impressive
goat lau is back
My FaZe boys may have gotten de_stroyed (why the fuck didn’t they pick nuke over ancient), but at least I struck gold 😎
I felt the same way going in that it was going to be a mid final with Faze winning. I already accepted the fact I was going to be disappointed. I couldn't have been happier about the outcome. I did not get to watch the Boston Major live as it happened a few months before I got into CS, but I have watched the entire grand final VOD and this major was hype, just not as hype
I watched the ENCE team mostly as a meme, but then I became an aleksi fan because I started seeing the games, seeing how he plays and how he talks about the game and you just can't hate the guy. Then everything happened and I was super excited when he got into that OG lineup and unfortunately things just didn't work out because of the pandemic. But still, I stayed a fan and I kept believing and it's what made this all the more special. After all the hate threads, all the haters, all the non believers and blind orgs, he got his flowers, his trophy, and silenced everybody and I couldn't actually be happier how all of this turned out. Racism took an L, but I think we got a great result out of this major and I really hope this team (and mostly aleksi) keeps on bangin
Question is how much we want to emphasise group stage games? Sure Navi had some close wins and big losses, but Navi went 8/8 in games that went double digits.
love how clint stevens in on there, thank you launder for bideo
i was set for a diamond coin until playoffs, then i got 0 correct for playoffs
I compare this win for NaVi as when Finland win world hockey championship, Finland never has individuals like Canada or Russia or Usa and rearly has a tournament point leader in team, but still they managed to win those teams multiple times and win championship coz they have best coaching, strategy and teamwork, its a team game so you dont nessesary need those best individuals, ofc it might help you but it also might destroy the team chemistry if you have some big egos or toxic personalitys in team even their stats are good... So i would say its a miracle run for NaVi but there's alot more than just being a fluke.
I was satisfied with this major overall. Paris and Rio had their peculiarity, but were weird ones, this one was cool all the way through like Antwerp.
waiiit, not the same quality as 1-15 decider map major final😂😂🤣
i think what we saw this major that cs2 is more about teamwork rather than individual skill. Like u dont have to have zywoo or ropz or (old) niko to win things
shoutout editor Johnny 🤍
"they're trying to build the pyramids but theres no more clay" oh is that what he said
nice content launders!
love you lauders, can we get a demo review?
Will we get some KZ action in launders lan? I know u a kz enjoyer!
Bring back the unlucky or bad series on karrigan in the major final inferno
Yeah this was a FaZe choke but at least Navi had to beat G2 and FaZe for this major. Paris was way worse. I do find it kinda funny how Karrigan became a choker again.
arguably outsider or vitality was worse atleast navi played faze in the final outsiders played heroic who were known for choking vitality played tier 2 teams
Been waiting for this
navi played against a hot g2, an extremely hot EF and a 7 time finalist faze... yeah i dont call that a "bad run" thats impressive, considering no one picked them to win any of those games
when do we start fraudwatch on the movement gang?
what is clint stevens doing in my Counter-strike video
I think you miss understand MVP meaning. JL was so clutch and important to the team in crucial moments. Monesy got nice kills and rating but didnt have the same impact in crucial games TO THE TEAM. Best player and MVP are two different things. Monesy lost even crucial round in the semifinals for G2.
Vitality Paris was the worst run by far, ITB, Apeks GL💀
Lovemax masked as hatemaxx motto of this channel
not glazing over cloud9 major win challenge (impossible)
Is this really a surprise that team with second highest match win percentage in the world won the Major?
@launders
Ай бұрын
i would recommend focusing on the quality of teams they won and lost to instead of ranking them all the same and then calculating W/L
@Pereplut
Ай бұрын
@@launders Sure they lost to some good teams even at the Major. But it wasn't elimination games when pressure is at the highest level.
@noucare1554
Ай бұрын
then wouldn’t paris be the worst major run? G2 is tier 1 when monesy plays well (top rated player of then event) and faze is definitely legit. You could argue their elim stage wasn’t impressive but they only lost to Spirit who was in major winning form and a peaking cloud 9 who are winning the next major
@bladerunner4425
Ай бұрын
That's your problem, lawnders. You focus too much on "quality" of teams. In other words, on how they look on "paper".
@spladoinkk
Ай бұрын
@@bladerunner4425 he was judging the quality by watching the games. it was a fraudulent run💯 Larrigan is washed up
Loved the blasdfa shoutout =)
What does C9 have to do with anything right now? You are saying things that are true, but I just cant understand why people have to only focus on the minucia to discredit a MAJOR win, not just a regular tournament, a MAJOR, and then bringing up C9?. Just better to say you wanted them to lose and that's it.
@launders
Ай бұрын
It’s called hatemaxxing welcome to the channel
hope johnny is good. godspeed
We don’t score CS based on rounds. Winning 13-11 is the same as winning 13-0.
worst major run was Vitality
I'm sorry, Navi won against two top 5 teams, and don't pretend like many, MANY people weren't picking Eternal Fire to go through to the Semis. Vitality's major is easily the worst run in history.
why is clint stevens up top xd
@monke5403
Ай бұрын
His major run was nothing to scoff at
@joshnelson964
Ай бұрын
Clint Stevens is the best professional player to have never played a professional match in his life
@Pyxyty
Ай бұрын
Lau is just a 2017 twitch chatter lol
Mongolz about to be in the final next major
🥺damn KZread how come i didn't receive any notification of this video
shoutout nerdRage blasdfa the og m9 vanilla legend
That border go's hard.