What's super unrealistic is having all similar or same body shapes, and especially just shapes that all conform to certain peoples aesthetics. Just go outside and look at everyone. No one looks the same. Many look drastically different. In a world where everyone looks the same, there is no beauty of any type, just the same old thing, and eventually everyone would be bored to death of it all. lols

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@peytonmac1131

4 ай бұрын

True, but I can't help think most characters in adult games all end up looking the same anyway. I have no problem with 'unrealistic', but variety is far nicer.

@brarkbrark7985

3 ай бұрын

Its especially frustrating how different body types are so incessantly shoe-horned into specific archetypes. Why does the curvy or mature woman ALWAYS have to follow the MILF archetype? Or the smaller stature woman the young innocent archetype? Its especially annoying with how incest is used as short-hand for interpersonal relationship dynamics. Its such a frustratingly shallow depiction of sexuality and sexual content.

There is art from ancient Egypt that depicts men with phalluses that are probably about three feet long, so this is literally nothing new. lol. I find it fascinating how the ways we exaggerate the human proportions have evolved over the millennia.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

There is so much everywhere! I think this would be fun to revisit as I learn more.

@Yattayatta

3 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming I recommend checking out the Cod piece from medieval Europe, use the search term "Cod piece armor" and you'll see pictures of historically accurate armor with... enhancements.

A lot of questions like this about a vast variety of games and media of all types and genres breaks down to… …there should be a variety of games or movies or media for a variety of flavors. There is no one thing that is good or bad for everyone. If some people like thicc girls or monsters or whatever, there should be a game/movie/novel, etc for them. There are probably very few flavors that should not be served in a way that victimizes no one.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@aylbdrmadison1051

4 ай бұрын

The only bad thing is when certain people (specifically bigots) insist that everyone conforms to suit their thin-skinned ideal of what everyone else _should_ be.

Hams on approach was wild. Yall were recovering for the next 10 mins!

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

They are so embarrassing!

@MrGrae333

Ай бұрын

​@@SexPositiveGamingNah, I'm listening to this again and I totally forgot about it, it was gold even the 2nd time around. 🥓

Glad to see another podcast episode! Feeding the algorithm while I listen and wait for more.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@The13smartalec13

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming As someone on the ace spectrum, adult video games have provided me a safe place to explore sexuality on my terms, and your content has done a wonderful job at putting a spotlight on what else is out there and the history behind various genres/flavors in the art form. Thank you for all you do!

The thing about "unrealistic" bodies (or women in general), mostly in terms of media coverage, is that much of the time they are naturally possible but just aren't relatable. For example, the original design of Lara Croft's body, at least after the tech improved past the pyramid boobs, wasn't too far fetched but definitely didn't represent your 'average' woman. I personally don't see this as harmful but do understand that some people want to see more representation within the medium. I also believe that the depiction of physically 'idealized' women in video games is a bit overblown, as is the "developers are making women ugly on purpose" discourse. It also completely glosses over the fact that men have largely been physically 'idealized' in their designs as well. How many chiseled, square jawlined, 6-pack having men with a full head of hair and smooth chest do you see in your every day life? I also have to say how much I appreciate hearing the art history perspective as I'm an artist myself and every time this discussion comes up I find myself being the 'um, actually...' guy while pointing at the Venus of Willendorf, Shunga, and pretty much the entire Renaissance period.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

It is crazy that this is seen as solely a modern issue.

@mattg6106

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming Absolutely. Also, I would love to see more informational uploads like this one in the future if you have the interest in creating them!

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

I'd say that both idealized female body type and idealized male bodytype in aaa videogames are mostly done to service the men that buy them. Idealized female bodytypes are meant as objects of desire while idealized male bodytypes are meant as a power fantasy

@mattg6106

4 ай бұрын

@@AR-yd2nd but why is it that idealizing male and female bodies only benefits men? Why can't women play out power fantasies with idealized female bodies and see the idealized male bodies as objects of desire (assuming we are talking about straight women)? Why is it that only straight men benefit from this dynamic with both female and male bodies being represented in this idealized fashion?

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

@@mattg6106 oh but it doesn't always benefit men, it can benefit all kinds of people! But, statistically speaking it does benefit men the most. Now, I don't think that there is nothing wrong with it, per se, but it's something that we should be aware of imho Hypersexualized female bodies, for example, can be a form of self-expression and power fantasy for women. But I think we can make some examples where it is and others where it probably isn't (the author of the Ouroboros game makes use of this kind of empowerment in her games)

Monster Girls let’s a gooo

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Have fun!

This is such an informative podcast! I wasn't expecting so much science and history!

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I want say that this is an interesting topic without an obvious solution. This kind of content, keep it coming

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Great content! Love this!

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Thank you for yet another thoroughly enjoyable discussion.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Speaking as someone who lives, loves and socialises in the form of a Cyclops girl via virtual reality, I found the choice of thumbnail for this one quite amusing. The notion of my silly one eyed face being an "unrealistic beauty standard" or any such thing, did make me chuckle. VR would probably be an interesting extension to this subject, since it goes beyond mere depictions of idealised body types, into actually inhabiting, interacting and identifying with them, whilst having total control over said form. It somewhat changes the dynamic where the typical conversation asks "are depictions like this bad", more into, "is it acceptable for you to look like this". And it also shifts that common debate about how appealing video game characters or similar should or shouldn't be, because unlike a cast of NPCs, basically every person on Earth does innately want to "look good" to some degree. And when given the choice via VR, basically no one deliberately chooses to present themselves as an "ugly" character, even if their choice of "flavour" may not appeal to everyone equally. And ironically this does also happen to have a certain repelling effect on outsiders, who when first encountering these spaces and communities, see crowds of "over sexualised" avatars, and assume that's all there is to the scene. It's difficult for them to imagine a functional social space, where everyone just happens to look that way, because why wouldn't they? The concept of beauty standards almost evaporates in VR, because unlike in some fashion magazine that might receive criticism for showcasing only genetic lottery winners, when living in the digital realm anyone can accomplish any look. Even if the look they choose is a strange one eyed visage, that occasionally makes people recoil in surprise.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I am really enjoy the format of these podcasts, it's refreshing to have a podcast that doesn't feel forced.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Co-host's brief comment/joke about a footbinding game makes me wonder now if that might not actually exist somewhere in the depth of the internet. lol Really fun discussions here again. I would love to hear more about the educational background of mom and co-host. It seems like both have gone through some interesting education. And also, it would be super interesting, if it's not too personal, to hear how you as a family have grown to talk so openly about themes like this. Because, obviously, families speaking openly (and apparently healthily) about sexuality (and even adult entertainment) isn't actually that common. That might be a whole subject in itself if y'all would ever feel like it.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure I want to encourage my co-host to talk more.

I think that there could be options, as not everyone enjoys the prospect of Sudden Death By Blunt Force Booba!

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Death by Snu Snu!

@michaelmacdonell4834

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGamingI asked for that! Aaaaand now I'm coughing!

@peterd9698

4 ай бұрын

"Oh no! more aftereffects of Doctor Dred's VoooDooo plastic surgery!" I googled that and am very disappointed it did not find the reference. It is from "Hewett and Martin's TANK GIRL" 1990, ISBN 1 14 01.3890 0

As soon as I found your channel, I had to subscribe. This talk was so informative and representative of widespread issues with our current culture. I loved hearing about the past up till present. I learned new things and added to my own testimony on life. Keep up the wonderful work ❤

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome!

Very interesting discussion, maybe it wouldve been easier for mom to comment on the different body shapes if you prepared some pictures? I think that would help her with commentary. What I think is interesting is that with animal-girls the girls also have the characteristics we associate with the animal. Like a dog-girl is loyal, and a catgirl is playful. Eugen Sandow was the first bodybuilder, he actually measured the proportions of the greek statues and trained himself to have the same proportions. While the statues are obviously idealized and exaggerated, it is possible to gain such a physique. Although, of course, it requires hard work and genetics to get there. What is interesting is that with the statues (and what Sandow trained for) is that the pectoral muscles arent very well defined. Natural full body training (or most manual labor) does not train your pectoral muscles very much. So in a sense, the statue's physique is functional as the muscles hard work create are represented. In art you draw a person by drawing him/her X heads tall. 7.5 for "normal" people, and 8 heads for a heroic figure. I would slot The treasure of nadia bodies slot in a similar style. The characters represent the edge of the human physique, ideal body +10%. Compared to something like demon deals where the character breasts thrice the size of their head. Also I am really suprised you never mentioned supernormal stimuli. Heck, when I looked up the english term, the picture used on the wikipedia page is the venus of wallendorf. (already reading my comment I might seem a bit critical. But Im not, I really love what you're doing. I think your channel and podcast are on really interesting topic but sadly it rarely gets talked about.)

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! I hope to be around long enough to revisit these themes and flavors in the future as I learn more.

Society tends to exaggerate everything. Things are either worse than they ever were or the best they've ever been and it just depends on what side of any subject you lean towards as to what you believe. Even the stories people tell. Ask most older people and they love to tell you how much better it was-- back in the day. Art is and always will be subjective. I personally prefer models in these games to skew more to the realistic than the over-exaggerated. Someone else will think the opposite and that's fine. Imagine a world where everyone only like the exact same things. You have what sounds cool ass parents. I couldn't imagine asking my parents to talk about this subject. They are way to conservative about a subject like sex.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! They can still be as embarrassing as any other parents, but they do support my dream.

Video for removed from my watch later had to go through history to finish

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Sorry!

@zacbarkey5883

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming not sure why you'd be sorry

Where else can I hear or download your podcasts?

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Spotify

Didn't expect Doctor Who to be mentioned. Nice surprise.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Me either

Unrealistic body shapes are bad in an unsexy way. But no I don't think there are just artistically bad. You exaggerate or deflate something visually to tell a story or to provoke a feeling.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

:D good job

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@njgamer69

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming :D no thank you for making video you and the people with you gave me something i wanted there is alot to hear from this

oh when they touched the monster girl island game, i knew where that was going 😢

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Sorry!

so how about gta san andreas love interests? dont know if more gta games do this but san andreas allowed you to be skinny or fat, build or weak. and these love interests didnt care bout meta gaming, those girls wanted a rly fat guy or a super skinny one. so you had to shape shift for datin all the time.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@gamerdweebentertainment1616

4 ай бұрын

Yup, latina girl was annoying to romance later cause you become too buff at some point and it was difficult to lose strength, for me at least.

@aigleincomments9532

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming also censorship in that game, back in the day i owned an uncensored version, were you got into their house n you had some sort of make out mini game. one of them was into sm so you had to slap her the right way. with the censored version all you got to see was the cam centered on her house shaking around. no mini game what so ever.

Having four ears isn't very different from having two, but you probably would have more sensitive hearing or hear with more detail. For cat ears specifically there's some overlap with what human ears can hear and that's where you'd have enhanced hearing. Brains are very adaptable when young, so as long as there aren't malformations they'd work fine.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Catgirl Physiology!

when you make those proportions in an illusion game and it looks really alluring in screenshots but really shit in motion

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Animations are difficult.

@aylbdrmadison1051

4 ай бұрын

Opinions.. everybody has them. But only bigots try to force theirs on everyone else.

@lunatic447

4 ай бұрын

@@aylbdrmadison1051 okay , my intent was mainly to give my opinion about the the studio/character creator tool of illusion games. Its cool that you can have multiple characters in one scene with that degree of variance in appearance. Anything that significantly deviates from the default bodytype of the game is hard to adjust if you have a specific flow of motions in mind.

Mom is do cool! I hope she can be on the show more often.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

posted 1 second ago, i guess i'm here now

@RabbitShirak

4 ай бұрын

Glad you came

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Welcome!

Really appreciate your insight on this.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I enjoyed listening to this talk. I cant have these talks with my family mostly cause im black listed by them and cause there prudes..my mom is a little open but not by much so we don't have these talks hell when i was younger and we had "The Talk" oh god that was fun..had to break it to her i knew how sex worked from other means. Honestly i think it would have been funny to hear ya moms reaction to explaining Futa my friends know that my thing and yeah i get a hard time but all in joke with them..tried explaining to my mom and well lets just say aside from that i keep most my interest to myself after that lol

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

I do appreciate how I can talk to them about this space.

No, it’s not bad. The sooner companies remember that people game for fun, and escapism from reality. Why the heck would we want reality in all video games? Some may want that, fine. But there seems to be no proportion these days. It’s all or nothing. No balance. But for gaming to basically eliminate all attractive female characters in AAA games as it’s seen as sexist, yet it’s still ok to have stereotype buff men in games - the hypocrisy is infuriating. Keep gaming fun - we deal with reality every day in our dull lives and I play video games for escapism, fantasy and so no I’d rather not have realism in video games so that means bring back attractive characters haha

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Someone should tell that to Microsoft.

@azn1011

4 ай бұрын

i was just gonna say this. a lot of people want to experience these games as a form of escapism and see and experience things they couldn't in real life. not everything in a video game (or movie or any piece of media) needs to be an exact 1:1 reaction of real life.

@azn1011

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming i can't stand that type of limiting of artistic expression

@Igunaq

4 ай бұрын

the "eliminate all attractive female characters in AAA games" narrative is false and absurd. look at Baldur's Gate 3 and Street Fighter 6 from last year, nothing but beautiful female characters. OP is just carefully sliding it in there to push his agenda.

@iio58

4 ай бұрын

@@Igunaq Jesus Christ, seriously? Anyone can find a couple of exceptions to any fact, but if you think what I said isn't happening and hasn't been prevalent to everyone else you're either blind, or plain ignorant. So I'd say if any agenda pushing is being done it would be by you sir.

I have noticed that jiggle physics sometimes seems to be turned off in consistent reality, as well as breathing, for myself and others. Nurturing and compassion are two different things although a nurturer who is not compassionate enough is likely to be dangerous to the nurtured. Big breasts and in fact breasts in general are not needed really as nipples will do if they are long enough and one still has functional mammary glands therefore breasts must be a sacred indicator of nurturing capacity or worship of the nurturing capacity, although the stereotype is that men do look more often and for longer at bigger breasts, perhaps as there is more to read there and it takes longer. But what do witchy glamours do with breasts, and are observers reading what they should be or simply taking notes or shorthand, perhaps for their partners nurturing skills and their own? Does this change depending on natural, surgically enhanced or virtual sizes of breasts? Well some art afficionados can read the hidden meanings in a painting, sometimes only with a background knowledge in that genre or style or school of art or of the artist and their work. Sometimes, though rarer perhaps, people can understand the symbology and meaning and message of art without a large or eloquent or skillful or educated background in that art or art in general although some people whether they have had education or not find it difficult to be eloquent in describing their understanding of anything in at least some situations as there is many imperfections in communication and many have certain and fundamentalist views of what facts are and what opinions are and what arguments are and what fallacy is and what is an explanation and what is manipulation and what is danger and what is safe and when triggers change those and other factors. Is social profiling with learning and entertainment and casual nicety exchange places and tribal competition zones alone or with family, friends, mentors, associates, authorities, walls, nightclubs, shops, picnic zones, forests, under the ocean, somewhere in space, in the head or elsewhere and devices and apps and websites like social media and other less obvious places much much worse that groping a strangers breasts to check nurturing ability to find positive and negative information about it for self or others? And how do we know what is safe or sabotaged or unsafe with or without it? How many problem spotters have become unrealistic or invasive or naive or cruel or problem creating solution makers and who is profiling the profilers and now that people know about profiling what are they doing about it and who is it giving advantage too and is it like sports science and is there sabotage using the information or refusing to allow the information to be used?

@SexPositiveGaming

28 күн бұрын

Again, thanks for sharing!

I enjoy your podcasts, but I think if you had visuals from the games for your other speakers would help move the dialogue. Rather than attempting to describe things. Keep up the good work! Cheers!

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I think unrealistic body shapes are of course not a negative thing at all, there can be many valid reasons for them, starting with the two biggest ones: stylistic artistic decision and preference/fetish-based. But also just because. However as someone who has a specific body type that I love (adult women with small breasts -or absolutely flat chests, that's great too) it's a real shame that 99% of adult games have what to me seem like too big breasts (for my tastes specifically, I'm very happy for people that enjoy them ofc). I'm not joking, I've spent all my life playing and searching in both the biggest and most niche adult forums for games with body types catering to my tastes and I've only found a handful compared with the thousands. As an example, whenever I watch a video of yours (and I've been subbed since almost the start, I think since the 'Why is NTR so Popular' video) the most common experience for me is that none of the girls' bodies I see do anything for me. Or best case scenario the boobs are too big 95% of the time, the characters look too much like little kids like 4% of the time and the remaining 1% is what I like. I occasionally I'm lucky to find games where all or most of the scenes have small breasts, like Soldier's Life, Detective Girl of the Steam City, Rogue-like: Evolution, Good Girl Gone Bad and Aurelia. But most of the time I either play a game with full boobs just to experience the scenes with the one small breasts character (which are still somewhat rare games) or I just go for highly procedural games like Lilith's Throne or fully customizable ones like Brothel King where you just use your own saved images or just pure text games. And of course its all also contingent on if I like the genre enough (sadly full furry doesn't do anything for me, or violence where she doesn't end up liking it, etc etc). Oh, or pixel games without CG images like D.P. and NTRPG. The Last Sovereign was one of my favorite games many years ago... until she started adding images and most characters ended up having huge boobs (as long as they were pixel blobs I could imagine my preferred boob size, once there was CG involved my boner died lol). Occasionally I'll just have to mental-gymnastics myself into playing a game and somehow trying hard to be blind to the stuff I don't like. For example Wolf's Dungeon might be too violent and punchy on the girls for me to even try it but I managed to enjoy some of the scenes in Crimson Colosseum. Or well, the usual "the creators clearly intended this teen-coded character to be quite young but I'll just imagine she's 18 or whatever in my head" (like in Detective Girl of the Steam City). At least I don't mind the faces being stylized at all! Imagine if I also only liked games with realistic faces lol. As long as they are able to convey emotion, realistic and stylized (both anime and western) are great to me! Also imagine if I only liked flat chested women. One dude once told me that was his thing. He only knew of 1... not game, 1 mod with it. Poor dude. He's probably just reading fanfics or whatever most of the time. The good thing is that through the years I've found many others like me and whenever we find each other we share our (small) lists of games with small breasts we know of, and while they are usually pretty similar we usually come out of it with 1 new game to try or even 2. Anyway, if you ever do a 'Games with Realistic Or Uncommon Body Shapes' (or something like that) we'll love you!

@SexPositiveGaming

17 күн бұрын

Thank you and thanks for sharing!

I feel like Stellar Nexus only got noticed because of the developer interview causing controversy. The outrage merchants/anti-woke people didn’t care about the game till that interview went out. “Woke games” can be sex and body positive and still be sexy.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

While I personally very much don't like even seeing that stuff I would never call it "bad"

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

That is the heart of, "No shaming!"

bump for the algorithm

@SexPositiveGaming

26 күн бұрын

Thanks!

Games need to learn from summer heat great body shapes

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation!

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

I'll check it out

Link

@SexPositiveGaming

26 күн бұрын

In the description.

Sorry for the OT, but can I ask you if you can try my new visual novel? I'm new in developing VN but thanks to AI I'm creating what I had in mind and if you want to try it I would be really happy!

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I'll check it out!

@0oORealOo0

3 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming It's Return to Roots on ITCH, don't know why my messages here keep vanish

If the characters are over the top, then the entire project should be as well. More often than not, the characters are over the top while the story takes itself too seriously. I don't mind a good parody, but when a project parodies itself, there's a problem.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

my mean trouble white NTR games ther is not one who is possibility to hold bot side the agreement what a base for it. Its always have to be cheating mostly only one side free, the other cant see on someone.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I hate the budget cuts Mortal Kombat went through since MK9. I never bought it since

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how this is related, but I appreciate you sharing!

@annanishimiya7786

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming budget cuts is a term made up by Fleekazoid addressing the issue of the lack of sexuality in video games.

@micketm3

4 ай бұрын

​@@SexPositiveGamingbudgets 🍈🍈 ...😁 They ..cut on the female figure 😞

Body shapes should fit the narrative. Making something "relatable" for the sake of it is hurting the narrative. I don`t need a skinny God of War. Same way i don`t need a Chubby Lara Croft , it is not fitting. Original character, original story can come in all shapes or forms. But the industry needs to stop changing beloved characters and forcing agendas onto gamers. Best strong females characters are without the bs written onto them.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure what that has to do with this episode, but I appreciate you sharing!

Sorry Annie, don't like the LOOOOOONG new style, all the best anyway.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

I'll still have list videos too. KZread is making it very, very hard to cover things.

how is it bad, it's not even real lol

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

There are a lot of things that society tends to consider "bad" that aren't real.

There is no such thing as unrealistic body shapes, aside from the extreme ones in some niche hentai or outright inhuman shapes. Some may be rarer than others, but I have yet to witness a fictional body type that I haven't seen in real life as well at least once. The variety is just unevenly spread across the world. What really is bad is the body shaming of voluptuous people that happens as a reflex of this whole "unrealistic" drama, which only exacerbates even more the real life issues they already deal with.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I am reasonably certain that the examples we talk about don't exist in reality.

@fernandobarbosa9727

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming For the supernatural ones, yes, they fall into the inhuman ones I've mentioned. But Treasure of Nadia, for example, doesn't have surreal body types. They are certainly very idealized and far from common, but can still be found in real life. While i'm mostly certain that wasn't a worry when designing them, it still remains a fact nonetheless.

In the context of 'adult' games, I can't stand it when creators make gigantic boobs. Complete turn-off.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

No one enjoys every flavor.

@azn1011

4 ай бұрын

some of us like gigantic boobs, thank you very much

@azn1011

4 ай бұрын

some of us like gigantic boobs, thank you very much

@paulberry5750

4 ай бұрын

I'm the opposite. I'm on the look out for it & will reward the dev handsomely.

@gamerdweebentertainment1616

4 ай бұрын

Recently played a game where I was oh god, perfection. In Sex scene boobas automatically bigger or even different shape. Oh ffs.

What's NTR again?

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

Netorare

Nopes, brother is wrong about it not being art simply because it's from pre-written-history does not magically make it not art. That's just silly at best.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

That was history versus pre-history. No one was disputing that it was art.

I'd be more inclined to say 'uncommon' rather than 'unrealistic'. There's certainly people out there who look like game characters, but personally I don't really like seeing the same type over and over because it gets dull. Maybe other people have more narrow interest in body types, but I'd rather see unique shapes. Where's the 4-foot tall, stocky, bearded dwarf lady? Why can't we have a stick thin, no-breasted tree lady? An androgynous bird-lady, or hyper-sexual bee Queen with six breasts? Instead it's just the same models used over and over. Put a paper bag over their head, and could you tell the difference between Lara Croft, a character from Being a Dik, or Captain Hardcore based on body shape?

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I tried to pick from a wide selection of games.

all these body shapes are realistic. women have these gifts of short hips, small frame big boobs. people need to go out more. all shapes and sizes are realistic. i prefer big boobs and miss when games use to motion capture real models like stelar blade does, without censoring their looks now in games.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I assure you that nothing I talk about is realistic.

@tysonlaplante3957

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming plastic surgery exists for that reason. girls do have these bodies look at internet or irl. hell you can see them proudly shaking these bodies on twitch

@tysonlaplante3957

3 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming wish we didn't see a blakc video of nothing. would like to see what your actually reffering too but plastic surgery exists and it's extremely common

Every question you entertain, you validate. so the answer can only be "yes" on some level. but i disagree since "realistic" is a relative term. tasteless body shapes are bad. and as tasteless i define everything that i perceive as grotesque.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I was using the line of demarcation for realistic as, "Can it exist in reality?"

@paulberry5750

4 ай бұрын

Let the market decide. It always has & always will.

I work in a place that values diversity but I see 'unrealistic' women every day. I'd say that people that believe the proportions of unrealistic bodies are unrealistic just need to get out more.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing, unless you work with He-Man and catgirls. I mean if you do, that is awesome!

@joedirt2656

4 ай бұрын

@@SexPositiveGaming You got me with he-man, to me he-man and arnold from conan both look the same. Just some muscular dude even if he does look like a midget next to andre the giant. I see plenty of huge muscular dudes but I guess I don't have the eye for it. As for cat girls, That luxury is reserved for halloween. I work at a casino for what its worth but female shapes like nadia or pretty much anything ive ever seen in games outside of some absurd mods is a daily occurrence. I guess cartoons don't really factor in either for me. All(?) cartoons are stylized representations and never look real. I'm all about it though, if someone finds something absurd sexy then I wish them the best of luck in finding it even if its just in a video game so long as it's not hurting anyone.

If i create something based on plot, character designs are important. If i make a horror, grotesquely designs are needed. For slice-of-life, attractive designs. Fighting games, toned bodies. It's simple to match what makes sense. These DIE gestapos should leave us alone to enjoy what we have for Fs sake.

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I thought this was an important topic to talk about.

@Darke_Exelbirth

4 ай бұрын

Counterpoint: that philosophy you are listing off isn't how character design has worked for a lot of game development history, and that is especially true of feminine characters. For instance, those toned bodies in fighting games? How often have the women in those games been E cupped bombshells with thicc thighs and asses, instead of more realistically toned with B-cups at most? Further, do you agree with the people raging at the Horizon series for accurately depicting what a woman in a hunter/gatherer society without makeup would look like, that it's "DEI gestapos ruining games," or do you think that the character design makes sense based on the plot of the game and the context of the lore?

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

​@@Darke_Exelbirth based reply

No. It's not bad. These so called "unrealistic" body types should be something that we should STRIVE to be, to encourage us to better ourselves. It's sad, but those who complain the most about "unrealistic body types" and moan on and on about wanting to "see themselves" as the characters? If you take the time to look them up, one will notice a... certain trend. It won't take such a leap in logic that all these complaints they have is rooted in jealousy. Instead of working on themselves to get more fit and beautiful, they'd rather gaslight everyone to lower everyone's standards as to what beauty is to just make themselves feel better for a second, smh. 🤷‍♂️

@SexPositiveGaming

4 ай бұрын

I'm not sure people today should be striving to become cat girls. Maybe in the distant future.

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

I sorta get what you're saying if you apply that to idealized/sexualized male body types but the whole thing crashes down when you apply that to sexualized/idealized female body types. Expecially hypersexualized female bodies You're straight up saying that the process of "working on themselves" for women condenses to heavy body modification through breast and butt implants and corsets for a thinner waist I mean, lessgo(?), it's a very "transhumanistic" approach but I doubt that surgery is what you meant by "working on themselves"

@lambofields1913

4 ай бұрын

@@AR-yd2nd Nah, none of that surgery or being catgirl nonsense, more just along the lines of working out and maybe not mald over fictional characters in the screen. And not to reach those levels like those we see in games, just slowly improve themselves. They don't have to work to ruin other peoples enjoyment, and even if they accomplished that they still won't be satisfied since they'd still have to face reality. I guess more than anything, they need to talk it out with a therapist or someone that they trust and be real with them, I realize this is also a mental health issue more than anything...

@AR-yd2nd

4 ай бұрын

​@@lambofields1913 I don't think I get what you're saying 😅 A fit body type is not unrealistic, that's not what we're talking about, we're talking about hypersexualized body types. Body types straight out of a hənt@i, that's unrealistic Is it bad? Idk honestly. But we're talking about two very different things

They're not unrealistic, they're just rare. I've seen it myself a few times. Besides, bodies that are perfect to the human instinct is not bad. If anything, that's a goal to strife for as a species. Instincts favor them for a reason: they're the most fit and suitable among men and women.

@SexPositiveGaming

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!