Tube Amps Here 👇

@pabloperez4063

Жыл бұрын

Always

@cresty1236

Жыл бұрын

it sounds so much better

@lowercase3635

Жыл бұрын

Availability and affordability! Amp sim all day!

@xavierthebaker

Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@jacksonharvey6342

Жыл бұрын

It clearly sounds better

The amp warmth is undeniable.

@JJ-xt2dq

Жыл бұрын

This was just a bad comparison

@brotherjongrey9375

Жыл бұрын

​@@JJ-xt2dq somebody needs a better tube amp

@piotrekuygiutf4946

Жыл бұрын

For me it's just muddy

@dingalarm

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, what is "warmth" ?

@themaczter9024

Жыл бұрын

@@dingalarm the wave of sound produced by the tube amp

i have to say that both sounds great, but the response under the fingers that gives you a tube amp is on another level

I loved when he said “it’s guitaring time” and started playing the guitar

@MarkToast99

6 ай бұрын

Dude really guitared all over the place

@aztecwhistle9122

6 ай бұрын

He's too big to respond to you

Didn’t know there was such a big difference between the two. But I think it’s all about the type of sound you’re looking to create for a particular effect. Not one size fits all

@MattsGuitar

Жыл бұрын

Wear headphones

@EdwardVanHalen_16

Жыл бұрын

@@MattsGuitar I think he means he didn’t know that there was that big of a difference before he watched the video

@kondopop4251

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you man. I personally prefer the tube amp but the option is great for wanting a specific sound🤘

@notkwcly1368

Жыл бұрын

To be fair he's comparing a $1,600 amp to a $260 amp modeler. I'd recommend watching Andertons Music Co's videos on the Quad Cortex. The difference is almost non existent

@chrisorrell3066

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never played a modelling amp or irs kinda thing so I can’t really comment on them. But with tube amps there is not only the tone or sound or whatever you want to call it but there is also a feel to them that really only the player can feel. I’m not sure if the other can replicate that?

The good thing about sims are that you can get virtually any tone you want pretty easily. I still think I prefer a real amp there’s just something that’s more present with them. I’m actually about to start recording some songs and still deciding which one to use

@aidancarlisle6237

Жыл бұрын

use your amp its so much easier to mix sims have where more fizzy highs and booming lows that just get in the way

@noahholland914

Жыл бұрын

@@aidancarlisle6237 ok awesome thanks!

@Watermelon_Man

Жыл бұрын

@@aidancarlisle6237 Anyone who knows what they’re doing shouldn’t have an issue mixing either one. You’re going to need to do some subtractive EQ on the traditional as well.

@kimseniorb

Жыл бұрын

@@Watermelon_Man tube amps are much easier to mix, they just sound solid and right from the get go. the sims have trouble with dynamics, they compress/sag in a non pleasant way, the high frequencies are shrill and it feels like the sound is not in phase with itself, it blooms and decays in a weird way. just get a real amp and a loadbox and I guarantee it will satisfy. I’ve been the ampsim rabbithole for years but never truly satisfied and the moment I recorded some the real amps again it was just perfect. Don’t waste your time with sims if you have that dissatisfaction recording sims

@dakotaperry6476

Жыл бұрын

@@kimseniorb I can’t talk on mixing real amps as I’ve never done it but I’ve been very satisfied with sims thus far. Cheap, consistent, quiet and super flexible. For someone like most of us who just want to make music as a hobby, sims are perfect. And if you want to take it as a serious career choice, sims can still get the job done, Polyhpia, Plini, Periphery, Tesseract, Vai and tons of other bands use sims/digital amps and still have phenomenal tones. Whatever gets you more excited and inspired is what you should go with, both have excellent options and with today’s technology both will do just fine.

Either one is useful and a playing musician should have both. Whatever gets you to the sound you want is the right option.

There’s a brightness with Fender tube amps that simulators will never be able to replicate perfectly imo.

imo as long as you get the music you want out of it, it’s perfect

It's amazing how you fit what other KZreadrs would put into a 20 minutes video, in just a single short. Thanks for making these videos so simple and to the point!

@EbonyPope

Жыл бұрын

Not being long-winded is good but shorts are just feeding into the growing trend of short attention span workout and depth. It's the TikTokification of KZread and I hate it. You can't convey certain things with these hectical formats that are easily forgotten a few minutes later. Which is a shame. It's like to hear the guy play more and go into more detail.

@davidburke2132

Жыл бұрын

I’m a tube amp fan and even I know that with enough effort you could definitely get the modeller to sound much more like the actual tube amp than is being showcased here. Seems to me like the amount of effort that has gone into the video is commensurate with the length of it 🤷🏼‍♂️

@lifeezane3526

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t fit anything in that short, amp sims and tube amps are indistinguishable in a full mix, he could have swapped the etiquette « amp sim » and « tube amp » and the same exact commenters would say that the tube amp sound better, stop hearing with your eyes, the two sound vastly different and if someone told you its just two different amps you would have believed it.

@davidburke2132

Жыл бұрын

@@lifeezane3526 the point is that it is two different amps here, because he’s clearly made virtually no effort to set them up to sound the same. In that light I can happily say the tube amp sounds better, but that’s not necessarily because it IS better, it’s because he’s not taken the time to get the tone of the amp sim sounding as good as it can.

@Billiamwoods

9 ай бұрын

​@@lifeezane3526Yeah, I assume most people watching this aren't huge guitar nerds, but it's kind of crazy how people are just eating this up without any questions. I don't think he mentions at any point how the guitar was recorded and played back, the volume is clearly different in several clips, and he basically just plays into what's already the common opinion.

Something about the sim just feels thin and artifiical, while the amp feels full, warm, and raw, which i love.

Tube amps have so much warmth,love the sound

@dingalarm

Жыл бұрын

What is "warmth" anyway (is it the heat from the tubes)?

@jasonschweitzer4783

Жыл бұрын

It's the warm sound,not the heat,it's a fuller sound,better than solid state

@dingalarm

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonschweitzer4783 OK, thanks! So by "fuller", I assume that you mean a "mellow" sound, which isn't excessively trebly (bright)?

@jasonschweitzer4783

Жыл бұрын

@@dingalarm yes sir

@jasonschweitzer4783

Жыл бұрын

@@dingalarm let them warm up first by letting it sit on standby for a few minutes,and you'll hear the difference..

Very good comparison, personally I don't think you can beat the sound of the tube amp but for the slight difference that there is amp modellers can definitely be worth it for a lot of people due to the practicality. Would be interesting to see a similar comparison between a tube amplifier, an amp modeller and a solid state amp also. Great video!

@less2worryabout

Жыл бұрын

And modelers are solid state Ryan.

@rylanurquhart9009

Жыл бұрын

@@less2worryabout Yes they are, sorry I should have clarified further. What I meant was that he could do a comparison between a solid state amp and an amp modeller, to see what was better value for money, and which is a better purchase overall etc but thank you for pointing that out!

@less2worryabout

Жыл бұрын

@@rylanurquhart9009 hey man no problem. I have 2 tube amps ii run together but have had a solid state ss 150 ampeg that I loved also

@rylanurquhart9009

Жыл бұрын

@@less2worryabout Nice that's so awesome! I only have a very cheap solid state amp right now but I intend on purchasing a good tube amp at some point in the near future for gigging.

@less2worryabout

Жыл бұрын

@@rylanurquhart9009 zzounds or sweetwater will let you do monthly payments no interest and just a small amount down and send you the equipment right away i could hardly believe it. I got myself an ac30ch ch for custom head. 1000 bucks but I could have gotten the hardwired with 2 speakers for another 100 some odd dollars. I really do not regret it at all. Just pointing that out.

This really deserves more love, man, keep it up!

Omg what a good laugh bro. Thank you.

Beautiful playing

I guess with an amp, tube or not, it really comes down to how you mic/record it as well as everything in the chain; amp sims give more of an instant, ready to go sound that’s pretty good. In some cases better than micing an amp if you don’t have a professional studio at home.

My top amp modeller… …a donner 😅

@coryfraser7554

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly lololol

@JohnWiku

Жыл бұрын

Paid advert 🤣🤣 anyway, still sounds good for what it is

@mvvnlit3983

Жыл бұрын

Literally what I was gonna say. That thing sounds okay but a Helix would have gotten pretty damn close

@reaperxax

Жыл бұрын

@@mvvnlit3983 and a kemper or an ax fx would have blown an amp out the water not even mentioning literally stock plugins from neural dsp I also think the warmth they’re hearing is mainly just cab resonance which you can duplicate so yeah

@JanilGarciaJr

6 ай бұрын

And it already sounds good AF. Imagine a better modeller.

I just love plugging into my nice tweed tube amp watching em glow up and then listening to the nice warm sound it’s so relaxing and nothing beats it

I like the warmth and fullness of the tube amp it has the nice rich lows but to each their own and sometimes the versatility of a sim makes up for it not being real

Why is this even a question? Tube amps all the way!

Nothing beats the Tube amps, but it does have a pretty good tone.

@johnmoser1162

Жыл бұрын

More crap ... if you would understand how a tube amp works, then you understand how stupid this comment is.

I love the way tubes sound. I have a 72 American made strat and tubes are perfect for that guitar

I feel like that simulated tone is gonna sit waay better in a mix

@michalkysel4351

Жыл бұрын

Yes, because not contain as lot of low end - which is also filtered by sound guy, when you playing real amp on the stage. That´s a difference - amp sims produces "complete tone" of whole tone chain (box, mic, room, final EQ), which audience hear from the PA. For sound technicians is it pretty easy job - just plug the cables, with flat PA desk EQ, and your guitar sound for the audience is done.

@Ninjametal

Жыл бұрын

I think either would need some EQ boost/cut for a mix. I've never had a guitar track sit perfect or balance without some EQ refinement. It doesn't matter (to me, at least) if one or the other is a few db's less movement.

Honestly i feel like the amp sim has a bit cleaner and brighter of a sound definitely much better for a recording type of setting

@fabianmartinez4514

Жыл бұрын

It’s all about preference the tube amp has a warmer sound to me, you’re going for crisp, I’m going for muddy. This debate will never end because we all want something different

@matthewhale9831

Жыл бұрын

@@fabianmartinez4514 ik im just saying the amp modeler definitely cuts through a mix better

i really like the warmth of the tubes,

Both are great and it’s really the guitarist that is the deciding factor of what sounds better

Option 3: solid state

@didamnesia3575

Ай бұрын

Yeah, that's what an amp modeler is, a solid state amps with modelers. Jfc. How long have you played guitar/bass? 😂😂😂

I think tube amps feel a lot better to play but an amp sim can get you a similar sound with the right eq and cab simulator

What chords were in the second phrase?

@Broski566

2 ай бұрын

I need that song 😢

Young man you have some of the best rhythm I have ever seen. I have been playing guitar for 58 years. Keep Rockin!

Tube Amp just sounds so smooth and iconic

@ahmeteren4016

8 ай бұрын

İts not smooth its funky

Speakers make all the difference, as well as the mix. You can make them both sound identical or totally different with editing the EQ. Tube amps are antique.

@odishudson4739

7 ай бұрын

You mean unique. Evidently you just can't afford one . 'cause there is a big difference.

@Mukna132

7 ай бұрын

​@@odishudson4739as someone who has owned multiple tube amps and have borrowed amp modellers, there is nothing unique about a tube amp once it has been recorded. 'In the room' sure there is a difference, but ultimately all that matters is how it sounds coming out of the PA or speakers as that's what listeners hear. And in that regard, you can absolutely make a modeller sound EXACTLY like its tube counterpart.

@josephfigueroa3527

6 ай бұрын

​@odishudson4739 I've had JCM800s, Rev F Dual Rectifiers, SLO100s, Krankenstein 2s, etc. Obviously, not all one but a few at a time through trades and sales. I absolutely love tube amps, mostly for the look and the fact that I can maintain them, but there's no getting around the fact that at the end of the day, I can and have gotten the same tone I get from my time amp and 4x12 with Mojotone Greyhounds with my preferred mic placement from amp sims. Tube amp tech has been antique for decades, the only reason solid state didn't completely take over earlier is because guitar players are superstitious and big brands take full advantage of that. Not to mention all the big names that he paid to endorse tube amps, though that's gonna change soon as we move to the digital age. It's also way easier and cheaper to gig with a sim rig, you really just need the 1 rack for the whole band at this point. That rack can hold 3 amp sims, all the wireless, all the monitor systems, power supplies, etc.

Aight, I’m gonna need to know what that riff is from, holy that’s nice

@mapetlarr6952

Жыл бұрын

Same

@dontworryitsjustvitinho

Жыл бұрын

Same here

@lemomar

9 ай бұрын

Any news?

I have all the best of both (I’m 53 so just like the internet I’ve lived big portions of my life before and after) sure there’s no substitute for the things a tube amp can do just like there’s no substitute for the things sims can do. If you ever had to schlep a half stack up two flights of stairs to play in front of the bartender and 2 or 3 girlfriends…again…knows just how beautiful that quad cortex is. As someone who has played a thousand shows, everywhere from the VFW in Bozeman to Slim’s (SF) I promise 99% of the “lord golden ears” that claim they can hear a difference when the band is in kick ass mode is probably still holding on to their FTT too

Tubes feel like the guitar is talking. Everything else feels like the guitar is being translated.

@theenp3889

8 ай бұрын

Underrated comment

@LivingInNorthGA

7 ай бұрын

Exactly. Great way to put it.

No, the real argument is under $500 vs. $2500 to produce a near identical sound?

@rctony710

7 ай бұрын

Sell yourself if you have to it's worth it. Do whatever it takes for the tone!

I didn't realize they were so different but the tube sound so much warmer and just more satisfying to me

In my opinion they both sound amazing and can be so useful for so many different applications. I’m so grateful that I have an amazing Amp Sim in my Boss IR-200 because I live in an apartment building and can’t turn amps on at all! So if I wanna do some home recording, I can get crystal clean amp sounds from that so easily!! But definitely there is some sort of “mojo” from standing in front of a Marshall 4x12 with a plexi head dimed on top! 🤘🏾

Recording preference - digital Live preference - tube Boom this is settled.

@johnlabu9827

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes we doing micing through tube to get the sound bigger

Never ever will the sound of a tube amp be replaced by something programmend... an amp is like a living organism... and thats what makes it unique... like a human able to express feeling..

@johnmoser1162

Жыл бұрын

Crap ...

@arandomsupra

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnmoser1162 What

@incianarchy1177

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmoser1162 Take it easy Bro:) Thats just my maybe a little idealistic Point of view😊 have a good one🍀

@johnmoser1162

Жыл бұрын

@@arandomsupra Only folks who can't play guitar need "magic" ... Hendrix would sound great also with a cheapo class A transistor amp.

@arandomsupra

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmoser1162 No terrible-sounding guitar player is actually buying 1000s of dollars of gear to sound better, that juat doesnt happen. Yes, a great guitar player is probably still gonna sound good on cheap equipment, but... not really. A bad amp or guitar is still gonna sound bad even when its played good, and a general audience isnt going to like terrible-sounding music (some do, but only a smaller group of people). The point of tone is to make the music more pleasing to the ear, and more enjoyable to people.

Solid State, reliable and consistent. Two things a tube amp will NEVER be!

Time and a place for everything. Use both 🤘🏼

In my experience IR is great for bedrooms and recording, but as soon as you get on stage and start pushing 100db they thin out. Nothing feels better than a valve amp moving air behind you.

Tube no question about it👍

I love both of them

It's more about the way it feels. I loved my solid-state amps before I bought a tube amp... Now it's really hard to go back. Especially now that I have my Mesa Boogie 😬

Also nothing like the feeling of a very loud tube amp waiting.. with an occasional crackle..daring you to strike a chord that will all but blow the windows out..😎

Nothing like the smell of fresh tubes when they get cookin' 😊

Nice shirt G!🙌

I feel like this is entirely about preference and application but tube amps do have a distinct warm and beautiful sound

Both have thier place. Great video

I was JUST asking myself if I should have gone with a positive grid instead of my blues junior. You made me glad I went with an all tube amp

I could feel the solid state coming through the screen

Love that tube Amp warmth

even though i despise how you play, this is real talent

🔥🔥🔥video

I personally like the warm sound of the tube amp but all these sounds have uses and applications

That tube amp was just BEAUTIFUL The drummer for the band I used to be in has a tube amp than that thing is the size of a dresser, all tall and wide. It’s super cool and sounded great

I love my amp sims for there convenience and they do sound good. I hadn't plugged into my Marshall in a while and it reminded why I love valve amps....

I've never heard a Solid State amp that sounded like a tube amp, at least in person. I wish I could find one because tubes are almightily expensive

@dee5298

9 ай бұрын

Have you looked into building one? I am in the process of turning an early 60s amp from a massive zenith record player into a guitar amp. Rebuilding the amp from scratch shouldn't be more than $100. My mods are also basically scavenged parts.

Thank you for settling this debate once and for all lol

I thought it'd be closer than that!

the tube amp just has this much fuller and deep tone

Both are good for different purposes. I use a combination of both for studio projects and always make sure to take a DI (pre-fx) when recording out of an amp.

I’d like to see what speakers were being used, and then do a blind test so it’s truly a unbiased test.

I can’t decide they both sound amazing

They both sound good in different ways

Daaamn that fender sounds hella good

ngl, i love and owned tube amps, but that virtual tone doe 🤯

To be honest, I would probably have had difficulty telling this was a sim on a blind listening test. So it's definitely a solid choice. I do like how the tube amp seems to have more dynamics in terms of breaking up, versus the more predictable and flat output of the simulator (which can be preferable sometimes)

When it comes to your style specifically, tube amps sound leagues better. But for someone like Tim or pretty much anyone in that genre, amp Sims are a lot more practical since they can be molded to do virtually anything, even some stuff regular amps cant.

In my opinion, absolutely nothing can replace a mesa-engineering/boogie stack

In my opinion, the main thing you lose with amp sims is the randomness that can come from micing a speaker. Moving your mic millimeters will change the sound. Changing to a different microphone or speaker (even of the same model and brand) will change the sound. There's so much that can change, so no matter what you do, you can be sure your tone will be at least a tiny bit unique. With amp sims, if you download the same amp sims and cabinet impulses as someone else, you will sound the same as them. There is obviously plenty of experimentation from combining different sims and changing settings, but most people will just choose a few that sound good and go with it. It's also just a lot more intuitive and fun to experiment with real stuff. So in my opinion, when practicing or playing live, there's really no need for real amps. You're probably playing bars with shitty sound systems anyway, so just go with whatever is most convenient and leave the 4x12s at home. But for tracking an album, that's when you bring out the real gear and experiment.

the tube amp sounds more natural and raw the amp sim sounds good but it just sounds like ur going through a solid state amp with a pedal sim that makes the solid state sound like a tube

Sims have an amazing clean sound that can't be beat, but tube amps have the crunch that is sometimes needed. Basically they're both great and are both tools for different jobs

Much more life in the tubes! So much more depth!

He used a condenser mic that is naturally warmer compared to a sm57, as the amp simulation using an sm57 simulation hence the bass frequencies being less present.

I like the mutedness and expressiveness of tube sound. Solid state amplifier sounds more precise and strict Both are good in their own way

IMO they sounded pretty much the only difference in my ear was that the Tube Amp had a bit more warmth and room which, depending on your settings is easy to adjust for.

I’ll never say one is better than the other. They serve mostly the same purpose, with some notable differences. Tube amps are random and chaotic. If you run the exact same signal through a tube amp twice, it’ll react slightly differently each time even thought it’s the same signal. I really think this is something you can feel if you’ve been playing guitar long enough. You notice the tiny little bits and pieces of variety in the feeling of playing a tube amp. It’s what makes tube amps feel exciting and powerful. You don’t have total control. While you play the amp, it also plays you to some extent. There’s no perfect consistency. Amp sims are the other side of things. They are controlled and precise. They’re basically using a snapshot of what an amp sounded like at a single instance in time and duplicating that single instance infinitely. For people who love the chaotic nature of tube amps, this can make amp sims feel flat and dull. But I personally love it. You get exactly the sound you dial in every single time, and that makes it an extremely effective tool. We’re at a point where one doesn’t sound better than the other in terms of sound quality. Both things will produce the same basic effect. It just comes down to whether you like the chaos that you can’t completely control or whether you like being able to control your sound with great precision. I think both are really cool, but amp sims win for me because I can always rely on them doing exactly what I expect them to do. With that being said, there’s something so powerful about plugging into a tube amp and getting that feeling of the amp somehow creating more out of your sound than you even intended to put into it. It’s like it has a mind of its own in a way

Tube amps forever! I play bass and use a 2002 SVT CL through a 6x10 and an ABY box into a 71 V4 modded to a master volume through a 4x10. I’ll carry these amps as long as I’m physically able to because the tone is worth it

The Sim sounds cleaner than the tubes, but the tubes give it a certain twang and flavour that can't be beat... Both sound great

Both are dope

Tubes react to voltage in a non linear curve giving you more expressions for details

Think there is a place for everything! It all comes down to how you use it and how your engineers handle the mix /master

I enjoy 😉 your video's. I am a tube tone guy myself. But l do use pedals.

Digital for affordability and ease of use, tubes for tone you can FEEL

You can't match the interactions of valves , The swell, the ripples the colours. Sometimes my total gig is about how tubes are firing they dictate my approach a given days.Truly alive.

Tube amp is warmer and more open sound, but maybe with the right eq or pre amp you can make the sims sound closer to that

Amp modellers are great out on the road, because they sound close enough live and you don't have to baby them lol. Also, they don't hurt your back. Proper SVT-CL in the studio!

You should use a deluxe reverb sim next time you do a shoot out between the two

Both sound good

The first one sounded the fullest and most rich imo

solid state amp gang

Now here’s a little idea. What if you tracked them both?!?!? I know live that wouldn’t work so well but I’ve been planning on doing some stereo experiments live with a clean amp with a blown out amp so maybe if I get a modeling amp I’ll try this one out.

Yea I'm definitely going either or. Both work fine and it genuinely does come down to personal taste.

Played silverface Princeton reverbs for jamming/studio work and a 64 Super Reverb for gigs for most of musical career. Bought a Quilter Aviator Cub this year and it’s the tone I’ve been looking for all my life. No reason to go back to high dollar, high maintenance, and heavy amps again.

both are great imo, if you prefer a brighter tone i'd say go for the amp sim, if you prefer a slightly darker tone go for the Tube Amps

As with everything guitar: It depends. It’s all about wants and needs and that varies from person to person.