Are they any good? A Mission 770 Loudspeaker review
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Join Gabi in her first review, as she shares her initial impressions of the Mission 770 Loudspeakers. In this review, Gabi will address the question of whether a comparison with the Wharfedale Linton is indeed a fair one.
The Mission 770 speakers are now available in Australia.
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Hegel H120 Integrated Amplifier
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PrimaLuna Evo 200 Integrated Amplifier
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Blue Horizon Ultimate Spike Shoes
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Wharfedale Linton Speakers
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PMC 25.22i Speakers
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Pro-Ject X2 Turntable
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Ortofon 2M Bronze
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0:00 Intro
0:33 First impressions of the Mission 770
1:25 Setting up the stands & speaker placement
1:48 How do the Mission 770 speakers compare to Wharfedale Linton Speakers?
4:12 How do the Mission 770 Speakers sound?
4:56 The sound signature of Mission 770s
6:26 Speaker placement & preferred amplifier for the Mission 770s
7:41 Comparing the Mission 770s to JBL L100 Classic, Wharfedale Linton & PMC Twenty5.22i
8:54 Outro
Пікірлер: 92
I appreciate your description of the sound of these speakers. Best review I’ve seen of the 770s. Thanks
Such an awesome review! This is the first video I’m seeing of your channel and I love so much about it. I’m looking to upgrade from Dynaudio Emit M20 to the Lintons but feel I will miss the intricate details of high quality Recordings. Unfortunately can’t really audition either in Adelaide. This video helps with my purchase decision. Keep up the great work! 😊
Thanks, Gabi, a terrific review. In particular I appreciated your description of inital (out-of-the-box) hearing and how it sounded before a little burn-in and how little time it took to "fall into place". Equipment matching is sometimes a significant factor, so getting your perspective on this element was very interesting. I got on board the "vintage" look train with a pair of KLH Model 5's (keeping the covers on with 2 large dogs). Adele and Billie Eilish both give me that detailed sound of the voice (and breathing) you described and as a listener of detail it's really amazing. (I also appreciate the minimal audio jargon).
Great review, glad to hear the Hegel works well on this type of speaker. I love my Hegel H120 it’s such a great little amplifier.
So cool to see Mission speakers again. Always loved their logo. Never got to hear them back in the day but the audio magazine really liked them.
Great video, can't wait to see more content like this in the future!
I love the looks of those mission models, had a set of mission 707s that were built well and cast drivers and vifa tweeters and were very smooth and musical, I love the white for nts and writing it on the front, they look really sharp and unique. The 762i might have been one of my favorites I'd heard from mission, but then again I liked the 707 equally tonally speaking but gave a little low end up to the 762i.
Thank you for the personal review. There's much to be said comparing these 770's to Lintons with regard to performance to price point. I've always drooled over these 770's, but you're not the first person I've seen reviewing these against the more economical Lintons.
Great job!! Very easy to follow and just the right length of video.. Good production quality and easy to hear.. Great looking stands too. Are the stands included?
@living_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the stands are great, and they are included in the price.
The Mission 770 were always a great looking speaker, and now they look even better. Absolutely one of the best-looking speakers around.
@scottbowling58
11 ай бұрын
The "looks"?
Thanks Gabi, for taking on the 'big question' for Linton owners. You've assuaged my FOMO, for now! Just one question... you didn't say much about the imaging. Given the similar big-box standmount configuration to the Lintons, my expectation is that they should be similar to the often-startling imaging of the Lintons. Lintons on well-recorded material (eg. modern Blue Note and Chesky recordings) image like demons. So the 770s... yes? No?
Like your presentation style. Nice job, and thanks for the review.
@living_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the encouragement, this is my first proper review, so I'm kind of just learning.
Thank you for the review, you should do more of them.
@living_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
Will try my best to keep them coming for you.
I wonder how they compare to the bw 805 d4 or kef reference 1meta or dynaudio contour 20i
This is a nice review, thanks.
Got mine hooked up today! They are fantastic!
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@xsamitt does the midrange sound more colored than Lintons?
@xsamitt
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 No......The missions are more neutral across the board! Now that can be better or worse depending on one's need! Having both I can go back and forth ....I love both of them!
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@@xsamitt is a way more in your face presentation with the 770's vs. Lintons?
@xsamitt
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 The missions aren't in your face per say......as they exude smoothness.....but with clarity and even faster transients than the quite capable lintons!
My kinda reviewer ,I wish my wife was a hi fi addict too . Best wishes from Sheffield South Yorkshire England.🤗😺
I am wondering if the 770's were to be warmed into service for several hundred hours if our reviewer would enjoy them more like she has the Linton's. After all, both speakers were redesigned by the same designer.
Mission speakers there are for all tastes being mine the Argonaut mkII(or 780 , not sure now)and the 761 ,the first very high volume with 4 0hms impedance, the 761 , very detailed with 100watts at 4 ohms ,this last sound perfect with all amplifiers i´ve throwed at it ,the Argonaut are good to any powerfull amplifier also very detailed and at the same time Loud . This new (old) model is for sure very good allthough i never heard them yet ,i´ve heard some friends saying that they have to buy them having bought recentelly the wharfedale also new ,old look, which both are my favorite brand of speakers ,having also several others from diferent brands which are also good
They sound wonderful. Hard to believe how high that small speaker punches !
Thanks for the review. I heard some clips of the Mission’s and they sounded pretty crisp. I have the Linton’s and some Klipsch Heresy IV’s. Opposite ends of the spectrum much like how I would imagine the Mission’s would be compared with the Linton’s. If I didn’t have the Heresy’s I might consider them but I find between the Linton’s and the Heresy’s I can cover pretty much everything I want based on the recording I am playing and if I want more of an on the stage dynamic that the Heresy’s bring or sitting a few rows out in the auditorium feel that the Linton’s have. Either way we’re spoiled for choices these days.
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@briancopp9412 - I know it probably depends on your mood and music you are listening to, but which speakers do you listen to more? Trying to decide between Forte IV's, Missions 770 or just keeping my Linton's? Only have space for 1 pair of speakers
@therealdealblues
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 I really only have room to use one pair at a time and the other pair has to sit covered in a corner. I have generally been using the Linton’s because with the stands they just aren’t as easy to move and the record storage underneath makes them kind of nice and I don’t mind the more relaxed sound.
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@@therealdealblues thank you!
That came across as a very fair review and I'm really tempted by these. The problem is that if I were to buy them I'd also need a new amp/streamer so it becomes an expensive proposition!
@RennieAsh
Жыл бұрын
Why would you need that? I'm sure your current stuff would be fine
@living_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
It's a slippery slope. But I a fun journey.
@Alan_Mac
Жыл бұрын
@@RennieAsh More capable speakers need more capable amplification. I like my set-up. The amp and speakers are of a piece. If I added the 707's then they'd not be.
What is your opinion on Mission LX6 MKII?
Any midrange coloration detected on this speaker?
id just like to try to buy my own speakers and make me a set of floor 3 ways. im not talking big, 10". im having trouble finding a company i can get crossover kits from, plug and play type. they want crazy prices for crossovers
How tall are they with the stands installed?\
For young people: when polypropylene (heavier than paper) mid-woofers appeared, solid state or Naim was the law. That's why Hegel is more suitable... Now Mission has achieved (with new materials, the possibility of almost unlimited simulations, etc.) coherence between the retro presentation of music as a whole and the modern stratification into high, medium and low levels and that for a very decent (not small, inflationary) price. So much for that. Cheers in Australia!
@martinaston1715
Жыл бұрын
EHH…
@tomwebb7091
10 ай бұрын
Lol@@martinaston1715
@tomwebb7091
10 ай бұрын
No. These speakers are made for valves. True 8ohm speakers with minimum of 6ohms and a very benign curve. If nothing else thats what the designer says lol. I spy a crappy Ortofon red in this video and Primaluna kit is for squalid state lovers who dont want to go fully (read properly) over to the dark side.
Hello. I really liked your review, but I was hoping of more comparisons with Lintons, since I am planning to get them. Which one do you prefer and why, and do you think Mission 770 is worth the price difference?
@living_entertainment
Ай бұрын
Despite both sharing a vintage aesthetic sonically these speakers couldn't be more different. It will entirely depend on your personal tastes.
How do they compare tothe KLH Model 5s?
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
good question
My Epos E14's have the same stands :)))
Do you still prefer the lintons over the mission 770? Please elaborate. 😊
@living_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
They are both wonderful speakers, personally, I love my Lintons. But there are plenty of people out there that are obsessed with the 770s, including my boss & colleagues. The two speakers couldn't be more different in style. So it just comes down to your taste. And probably what the rest of your system looks like.
@HanifBarnwell
Жыл бұрын
No comparison 2way vs 3way design, can’t wait for the Dovedale Heritage’s!!
@rejtkc1
Жыл бұрын
hello even if you mention them, you didn’t compare the misionn with the l100 classic. I am still hesitating between these 2 speakers. Someone ? Thx!
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@@HanifBarnwell what is the big difference. there are a lot better 2-way speakers than 3-way. Henry Kloss prefered the SQ of 2-way over 3-way for example
@HanifBarnwell
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 are you kidding?
I have my 770's connected with bryston 28B Cubed and Bryston BP 26 and have zero sibilance!
I prefer the linton I prefer a three-way it seems that you have a rock concert at your house
I heard some sound clips, yesterday, between the Lintons, Mission 770, KHL Model 5's and others. The Model 5's were my favorite, the Lintons were not my cup of tea. Most of the comments favored the Model 5's and the Mission 770.
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
@rosewoodsteel6656 - I have heard the same demo from "Just Audio" and listen to all as well and my thoughts were the same as yours until I heard them in person. And guess which ones most of the employees (and owner) have from Just Audio (which they listen to and demo for customers almost daily). The Lintons! My only advice is listen to them IN PERSON.
@rosewoodsteel6656
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 Thank's, Allen. It's been so long since I bought loud speakers, I will have to research where I can listen to them live. The Linton's were not impressive to me at all in the sound clips. Very interesting..
@rosewoodsteel6656
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams8962 My guess is that placing a mic in front of a speaker eliminates the room ambience and characteristics. And, as we all know, speaker placement is critical for getting the best out of a system. There are just so many variables. Were the Linton's better placed than the Model 5's when you auditioned them? Was the amp a better match for the Linton's? Were the tone controls tweeked for the optimum performance of each type of speaker? Is there a greater profit margin for "Just Audio", in selling a set of Linton's...? I'll have to do some more research to narrow down the field some more and then find a good place to audition them. Another speaker that sounded great to me (in a comparison with the Model 5's) is the Sonus faber Lumina V's. The Sonus are more expensive, but sounded amazing in comparison sound clips. I like clarity and sweet tonal definition in a speaker. The "wall of sound" thing isn't my cup of tea. :)
@allenwilliams8962
Жыл бұрын
Let’s us know ur thoughts after u hear some of these! Thanks !
Sounds like the Linton is a much more forgiving speaker.
@HanifBarnwell
Жыл бұрын
Why bother even compare a 2-way vs. 3-way?
@Audiophilesdoteu
Жыл бұрын
It is defintely. Linton is way warmer tuned in sound and more lean back. Whereas 700/770 is way more in your face, but I really like the 770s.
I own the Linton's as well and just love them. I did not buy the stands I found them to be unattractive to me and to low to the floor. I am using 24" stands instead. I also own a pair of 1987 Celestion SL6si and will always have them in my speaker collection.
@RUfromthe40s
Жыл бұрын
in my opinion they are not speakers that need stands both are great and the bass is mode defined when in the ground level
Almost perfect, but the front letters 😞
@NosEL34
Жыл бұрын
I agree. To me it makes them look cheap..kinda ridiculous
Can they take any power? It's hard to believe that an 8" inch woofer could move anywhere close to the same amount of air as the 12" JBL. People don't want something that's going to "break up" when you put the power to them. Do these "break up"? For $5,000.00 they should mean clarity at high volumes too.
@DueM
10 ай бұрын
most speakers will take as much power as you can throw at them within reason, low powered amps will easily damage speakers when over driven.
Mission Website: "The original 770 was well known for its warm, rich and natural sounding character and the new Mission 770 retains that standing but imbues it with an open, detailed performance that will entice you to explore your whole music collection, once more." WRONG - if you liked disco then these were the speakers for you - if you wanted warm and rich - and dare I say it deep rolling bass - Tannoy if you please - I used to sell Hi-Fi in the 80's - also they were cheap - these new ones are up there price wise with an awful lot of competition
Made in UK… precision? Lol!
As for me, comparing the Mission 770 to the Wharfedale Lintons is not a good idea. The Lintons are a budget loudspeaker. The Mission 770 are not in the same universe.
I’m sure they sound fantastic. So many great reviews. But they are just ugly. No way could those every get wife approval.
@NosEL34
Жыл бұрын
I agree...and the big MISSION 770 across the front is just terrible looking
I wouldn't buy these speakers just because of their looks. 🤮
@BruceCross
Жыл бұрын
Yes, I could live with the white front baffle, but not the giant "Mission 770" lettering.
@minxreef6581
Жыл бұрын
@@BruceCross now I cant unread that "Mission" after reading ur comment. I'm gonna stick with Linton
@BruceCross
Жыл бұрын
@@minxreef6581 Sorry, I hope I didn't ruin it. The Mission 770 follows the bold styling of the original 1978 version. In the July issue of hi-fi+, reviewer Ed Selley said people's opinions were divided on the aesthetics, but he loved them. "Mission does not blend in to spaces it sits in and I have a certain affection for the unapologetic approach."
No burn in, sorry. Brain adjusting.
Over $7000 ! for this rubbish. A sick joke.
Made in China!!
@Audiophilesdoteu
Жыл бұрын
770s is NOT made in China, they are made in the UK :)
@rosewoodsteel6656
Жыл бұрын
I understand they are made in the UK. The Linton's are made in China.