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Majority of Gazans including those who live in Rafah support Hamas and how then they be called innocent?

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

children are the responibility of adult Gazans

@valerieprice-wn9qb

14 күн бұрын

What about Judea and Samaria voted 80% for Hamas even though their government is not Hamas

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

@@valerieprice-wn9qb what about it?

@deborahfreedman333

14 күн бұрын

@@valerieprice-wn9qb They are evil too. Your point?

@zbeatza9910

4 күн бұрын

Children are innocent, but it's hxmxs that forces them to fight and their parents are on board with it.

On October 7, the Hamas terrorists were the ones who blew up the fence and entered first. After that, a wave of Gazan citizens entered, and they also murdered, stole, and kidnapped. When they brought the bodies of the kidnapped into Gaza, the residents of the city welcome the terrorist with celebration and joy. So no, there are no non-involved people in Gaza.

Wise words Ben. Thank you

What about a population such as the people of Gaza who voted for terror and elected the terrorist organization Hamas to rule over them? Aren't they politically responsible for what Hamas is doing in their name? And this all the more so, because the people of Gaza openly celebrated the massacre of October 7th. For me, this situation ressembles the one of Germany in WWII. The Germans elected and supported the Nazi-regime and were in favor of its mass-murders and openly applauded total war. The Allied answer was collective bombing of cities which also killed civilians, including young children. But to this day, the bombings are considered to have been justified, and not war crimes. To my opinion, a population who elects and supports terror and favors genocide against other nations (most people forget, that the Germans wanted to eliminate also the Poles, the Russians and other nations on the base of their racial delusions) is to be hold responsible for these crimes in total, even if innocent people die. I totally agree, that the moral responsability is on their side, and therfore the Germans deserved this form of retalliation - as do the Gazans today.

@Catssandra13

14 күн бұрын

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@kitanianunesdebarros2659

13 күн бұрын

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Excellent and very informative interview. Thank you.

Where is the un on civilian looters who invaded with hamas, and returned to gaza loaded with many different items stolen from murdered, defenseless civilians ?

@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci

14 күн бұрын

Civilians actually kidnapped a lot of the hostages, too. It's clear that Hamas had put out word that they would pay a "country" to civilians who brought back hostages; this is probably why so many women, children, and elderly people were taken. They're easier.

Toward the end of the video, there is a comment about the Floating Pier in Gaza, can you guys make an episode that discusses this on a deeper level?

@ebog4841

13 күн бұрын

it's simple: pathological altruism from the leftists is the USA's modern power flex. the political left seems to have anti-israel as its defining core characteristic. the pier is just biden's way of bowing to j1had1st culture- he desperately needs the votes of 5 Muslims in Michigan. The Muslims in Michigan have the fate of the world in their hands! Well played, Mehmet.

Would love to hear you guys talk about the pullout of Gaza in 2005 and if there was any agreement between Israel and Gaza about the pullout

@saikatchakraborty5347

14 күн бұрын

Yes, a ceasefire agreement, violated on October 7th by Hamas.

@Catssandra13

14 күн бұрын

@@saikatchakraborty5347 👍

That’s a very good point about what is a combatant and what is a civilian and whether it’s clear that one can be killed and the other not.

Can anyone name one thing Palestinians have ever said that is not a lie? Innocent Gazans? Show me one Gazan who tried to stop Hamas’s 15 years of rocket attacks or spitting on hostages.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

"name one" is bound to fail you

@ebog4841

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 true- THERES LITERALLY DOZENS of Gazans who don't support any of the TEN t3-rr-0r orgs in Gaza!!!

@solvingpolitics3172

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 Let’s hear it?

@solvingpolitics3172

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 Then say, give me the things Palestinians have ever said that are not lies?

@ravenmusic6392

14 күн бұрын

@@solvingpolitics3172 The IDF being present during the Sabra massacre of Palestinians in Lebanon in 1982. Denied by the IDF, subsequently admitted to by both militaries and an Israeli enquiry

It’s not a particularly high level of civilian death in comparison to other wars. Also, we won’t really know the true stats for months or years.

Great content.Keep up the good work.

👍 thx for the upload

No, there is no one innocent in Rafah.

@deborahfreedman333

14 күн бұрын

Except any surviving hostages.

No! No one there is innocent!

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

children are innocent. Them being UNWRA-educated is our responsibility also, for funding it and allowing it. It was no secret.

@shnitz_world7779

14 күн бұрын

Up to what age are children innocent ? If a 14 year old takes to guns and shouts of killing Jews, is he innocent?

@hafer88

14 күн бұрын

at 7.10. there were also children from gaza during the murder and plunder. ​@@WUB0105

@deborahfreedman333

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 It is true that UNWRA is to blame for hate filled indoctrination, but when a child is taught to murder true innocents, from the moment they can walk, they are not innocent. That is why the use of child soldiers is so obscene, it turns those, who should be innocent, into murderous monsters. Think of the child soldiers Pol Pot employed. Children yes, but far from innocent.

@kitanianunesdebarros2659

13 күн бұрын

Os bebês são inocentes, e crianças também!

Thank you

Hi Razi, Can you get Itamar Marcus on the show? He runs Palestinian Media Watch.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

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Have you lostened to the recording of a telephone conversation where the IDF tells the father to evacuate and the father says he wants his children to die so Israel will be blamed?

there is a double standard here. think of the civilian collateral damage caused by the us in iraq, afghanistan, germany in ww2.

@Input-vh7vu

14 күн бұрын

Germany of ww2 are more impressive as a standard. Wow. 😂 remind us about 1,5 mln Germans who were forcibly replaced from their native lands as punishment for supporting war. But it was fair.

@peterziggyw

14 күн бұрын

No double standard, all three involved horrible atrocities committed by U.S. military personnel.

If you find the adult Palestinians somewhat culpable for Hamas actions, what about those who have changed their minds about that support as well as those that never supported Hamas? The IDF has, at least, given those Gazan’s an emergency option: move out the area IDF tells you to move out of, to be somewhere else rather than a war zone.

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The question is irrelevant and absurd. Let's suppose there are innocent civilians in Gaza. What is Israel supposed to do about them? Short answer, nothing. They're not Israel's responsibility. Israel's responsibility, first and foremost, is to its own citizens. Hamas must take full responsibility for the plight of its people. They started the war, knowing full well what it would entail. The blood is on the hands of Hamas.

Yes there are. And most Israelis differentiate between terrorists and civilians including the IDF and the Israeli government.

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lol why did the US fight Germany in WW2? Better question is why did Germany declare war on the US?

Eichman was a non-combattant

Not tryna dog on your production, but grabbing decent mics for hosts and regulars would be a cheap investment and would immediately increase your quality and replayability. Just throwin that out there. There's not much worse for viewers of static content like this than knowing the audio will stay unbalanced and harsh the entire time. I'm in audio, and I really don't think KZreadrs who primarily stream zoom meetings pay enough attention to this given that most of what they're selling is audio.

No innocents in Gaza

13.44 he's describing settlers in the west bank.

@solvingpolitics3172

14 күн бұрын

Jews are not settlers in Judea

@bengaisford3304

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 no I'm anti zionist. The antisemitic card is well old. Your attempt to defend ethnic cleansing and genocide is as laughable as that destiny muppet.

@thevillageyid

14 күн бұрын

wut?

@bengaisford3304

14 күн бұрын

@@thevillageyid you heard. Whatch from the time indicated. He's describing the Israeli settlers.

@deborahfreedman333

14 күн бұрын

While their description of evil people would also include the Arabs, who are occupying much of Judea and Samaria, it doesn't apply to indigenous people living in their own homeland.

you dropoed one important context: Ireaeli army is not professiona, it's fought by kids. and for these kids it is very dofgicult to go and kill abd go home mentally intact. the care for civilisns help these kids to live with what they saw abd did in the war. which is of course qute selfish think in objectivist terms

This channel argues with your comments, deletes any it can't dispute leaving ann illogical rebuttal as if it's fact. Use your own brains, research and morality people.

Iraq was in no way altruistic. I think many Objectivists have bought into an ahistorical retroactive narrative on this one. Everyone else agrees it was bad, so we have to find our own reasons it was bad. This needs real re-consideration. Christopher Hitchens argued exactingly for intervention in Iraq, and not a word of the case was based on self-sacrifice.

God Almighty knows the TRUTH and truth will prevail!!!! Those against Israel will be cursed and those standing with Israel will be BLESSED!!!! ALWAYS in my heart and prayers for ISRAEL JERUSALEM, hostages, IDF soldiers and ALL leaders and All GODS people 🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌🇮🇱🇮🇱🔥🔥🇿🇦

When the muslims conquered Jerusalem they welcomed all religions into the arab Muslim empire. The judeans had been dispersed, interbred and eliminated many times before that meaning modern jews are a different ethnic group to the judeans who god had expelled anyway.

@verindictus3639

3 күн бұрын

They most certainly did not. Muslims regularly harassed, kidnapped, and slaughtered non-Muslims in the Arab Muslim empire. Non-Muslims were only allowed to live in the Caliphate as oppressed Dhimmis. One of the final straws that kicked off the Crusades was Muslims banning all Muslims from Jerusalem.

Arguments put forward in this discussion point to the USA being responsible for any losses that Russia suffer. It makes no sense to me. I'm totally confused

@Weirdomanification

14 күн бұрын

No, it does not. Russia is the agressor in Ukraine.

Gota go now. Might piont out the rest of the immoral and illogical flaws later. Ta ta.

@Scott-up3bq

14 күн бұрын

Yeah can't wait, cancelled all my plans today,to hear your concerns

@Scott-up3bq

14 күн бұрын

Think what I hear later might smell,of shite

'Can't tell the innocent from the guilty'. In other words genocide.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

no, that is not definition of genocide. Unless you are ironical?

@bengaisford3304

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 he's literally saying it's ok to target a whole ethnic group. Literally had a refesher on what the definition of genocide yesterday watching israels humiliation at the icj.

@ebog4841

14 күн бұрын

@@WUB0105 he's not being ironic- he's just really really genuinely dumb, AND uneducated... yet he (Mr. "bengaisford") thinks HE is the moral one in this situation... insane.

@ophelia.artaud

14 күн бұрын

Since these are the pontifications of random non Israelis, and not a policy of Israel, we cannot use it to conclude anything about Israel's intentions. IDF has innovated several novel methods of reducing civilian casualties. The Hamas casualty figures have been analyzed by statisticians and concluded to be statistically impossible. In fact, that is the name of the study. There are far less women and children killed in the identified deaths- 52%, and the unidentified deaths mathematically must be 100% women and children to add up to the static 70% women and children of the Hamas figures. Not to mention naturally occurring numbers have variation, and it's impossible that ratio is dat to day exactly 70%. So this would necessarily mean Israel is not killing indiscriminately.

@bengaisford3304

13 күн бұрын

So wub is deleting comments he can't disprove.

All nations would respond militarily if they were attacked like Israel was. However, and despite all the mental gymnastics of the Israel apologists, all countries would consider Israel’s settler policy a declaration of war too Israel is not fighting a just war

@ophelia.artaud

14 күн бұрын

But there hasn't been a single Jew in Gaza since 2005, where the attack came from. Why would that be if it's a response to settlers? Wouldn't the attack have come from the West Bank?

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

contradicting yourself

@desruc21

14 күн бұрын

@@ophelia.artaudthe West Bank is Palestinian territory according to every country except Israel If Gaza is supposed to be a separate case from the West Bank, why have settler attacks skyrocketed? And why is Netanyahu approving more settlements in the West Bank since the war began?

@solomonstolberg4383

14 күн бұрын

@@desruc21 There is no “Palestinian” people or territory. If there was, name there leader in the past, what was the culture and how did that manifest over time? I mean, you seem to accept complete crap, spewed by the most morally bankrupt individuals. I actually question your morality and if you have any.

@desruc21

14 күн бұрын

@@solomonstolberg4383 like I said: mental gymnastics

Palestinians have a right to defend themselves. As an occupational force israel has no right.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

oh come on! Hamas hiding in tunnels, using women and children as protection is not "Palestinians have a right to defend themselves". That is unbelievably stupid.

@ophelia.artaud

14 күн бұрын

But they haven't occupied Gaza since 2005. But you probably meant all of Israel.

@bengaisford3304

14 күн бұрын

@@ophelia.artaud they've had it under blockade and the majority of them are refugees created by Israel.

@bengaisford3304

14 күн бұрын

@@ophelia.artaud they've been occupying the west bank for many years and the lands they stole in 47,and 73.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

SO DARK, classic antisemitism. unless you are inonical, of course. No way to tell, the world is upside-down after oct 7th

The Jews killed Jesus, are there innocent Jews ?.

@WUB0105

14 күн бұрын

yes, go on pushing that old old antisemitism, see how long before even YT ban you

@Foster-rv6ty

14 күн бұрын

What is your connection with Jesus? No one can kill Jesus. He came for that purpose: to lay down His life as a sacrifice. Jesus doesn't need your support or help.

@shnitz_world7779

14 күн бұрын

Also, it was the Romans who killed Jesus.

@ponygirl6258

14 күн бұрын

Ah, nothing like a good old-fashioned blood libel. That one's a classic. But no, strictly speaking, it wasn't the Jews who "killed" Jesus; it was the Romans. However, Jesus laid down His life for all mankind, none of whom is or was innocent; so, really, we all "killed" Jesus.

@ESL13579

14 күн бұрын

you’re an ignoramous. It was the Romans that killed Jesus.

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​​25:51 Your live chat commentator Christian was wrong V2s were manufactured at Mittelwerk 'Dora' GmbH in Nordheim Thuringua and the RAF bombed it in April 1945 killing more slave labourers than died by abuse by the Nazis. The bombs destroying the slave labour barracks. most of the factory was inside a mountainside tunnel complex, so shades of Gaza. Peenemunde was where V weapons were developed, it is an Island in the Eastern Baltic Sea paret of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern province and it was the Poles (and to a lesser extent Swedish spies) who alerted the British, not people from Luxemburg -or Netherlands - that is fiction from a 1960s movie. Peenemunde heavily was bombed by RAF in mid August 1943 but not completely destroyed - it probably delayed the operational use of V1 by 9 months and V2 by 12 months. As to Nazis making husbands of mixed marriages serve while burning their wives. It was not uncommon for Roma soldiers serving in Heer to be arrested by Gestapo while on leave and sent to KZs. - might sound a strange but many Heer mobile workshops used large circus style tents for servicing vehicles and armour near the front line, many of the soldiers who facilitated the erections of these tent workshops were of course Roma who prior to the rise of Adolf were employed in traveling circuses.