Are the Conservatives now admitting defeat? | The News Agents
Tory frontbencher Grant Shapps has appeared to concede the Tories are now heading for defeat at the election and warned voters against allowing Labour a 'supermajority'. Does scaring people work as a campaign strategy? And is a supermajority a big problem for voters?
We also hear from Lewis, who is on the campaign trail with Lib Dem leader Ed Davey.
And later in the show we talk privilege, class, and pesky questions, after Rishi Sunak was asked what he had to go without when he was growing up.
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I wish I still lived in the UK so I could NOT vote tory.
@Jessjoe1956
8 күн бұрын
Don’t worry, wherever you live you can still not vote Tory.
@james__page
8 күн бұрын
The law changed. You can now vote after 15 years of leaving
@urbanimage
8 күн бұрын
You can live abroad and vote to help kick the Tories out. You have until the 18th June to register.
@sama2086
8 күн бұрын
Come back July 4th and vote against the tories somewhere where its looking very tight. E.g. Jeremy hunts Constituency
@bonariablackie4047
8 күн бұрын
British citizens living in the EU can now vote in the General Election. So vote, and don't vote Tory.
Tories would never complain if *_they_* had a supermajority.
@Eightball69
7 күн бұрын
They had an 88 seat majority with Joris Bohnson. Didn't complain 💁
@johndewhurst6609
7 күн бұрын
I think the tories are more worried that their vote tally will be so low they may not even be the opposition party after the election.
How can Ed Davey not call austerity a mistake??? All it did was destroy our public services and ended up costing us more in the long run. Absolute clown
@bluelightalarm
7 күн бұрын
It's completely put me off him tbh.
@CashelOConnolly
7 күн бұрын
His rotten party voted for austerity when in coalition with the repulsive Tories
@ryuhayabaker
7 күн бұрын
@@bluelightalarm yes but he's on a swing.. weeee...
@sockwithaticket
7 күн бұрын
I think it's quite clear that modern political comms training is - never apologise for anything, never engage with a hypothetical, don't stray from your talking points even if bringing the conversation back to them is inhumanly clunky.
@robertdarby6553
7 күн бұрын
Austerity was just an excuse for removing benefits and services from the poor and giving tax cuts to the rich. It is what the Tories do and there should be no surprise.
The guffaw I released when Sir Ed Davey called Lewis _"a naughty boy"_ was so shameful. 😂😂
I received a phone call from someone who claimed to be calling on behalf of the Conservatives asking about my voting intentions. I told the caller I would happily share my voting intention if they were prepared to pay me for my information. They told me that wasn't how it worked. I told them I believed in the free market and I valued my opinion . The call went dead...
@SuezWSuezW
8 күн бұрын
Wag!
I want the Con men to never be be a thing ever again.
The outcome isn't confirmed until Craig Williams places a bet on it.
I think Tories might actually be trying to make Sunak look awful so the country will blame him for the last 14 years and forget the whole party has been corrupt. There’s just been too many mistakes, I think they’re sacrificing him.
@freakydeaky1435
8 күн бұрын
this makes no sense though, I know a few right wing media outlets are pushing this idea but honestly, it's unworkable. Sunak's aides will be running his campaign, their careers are going to be much better off if he does well, so it just doesn't make sense for them to collude with political opponents in the party in some weird attempt to bring him down. Also, most Tory MPs don't want to lose their seats and the income/ influence that comes with them!
@alexmalex82
8 күн бұрын
Im sure the Boris camp is banking on this
@michaeladkins6
8 күн бұрын
If your going be conspiratorial, Id say richi wants to get this over with so he can move to California and start his new tech job.
@BrofessorDG
7 күн бұрын
@michaeladkins6 that's not conspiratorial he obviously hates every minute
@sabre22b
7 күн бұрын
Has lord david got his acceptance speech dusted off?
No difference between a majority and a super majority. As long as you keep the backbenchers happy, you can do what you like regardless of whether your majority is 30 or 300.
@ednorton47
8 күн бұрын
With a majority of 300, Labour might have enough confidence to finally abolish private property and usher in a true socialist state.
@davejohnson5365
8 күн бұрын
Not just backbenchers. The Tories contain multi mini factions, including front benchers. So for them a small majority or a large majority didn’t work.
@quintuscrinis8032
8 күн бұрын
A super majority is bad news for all opposition because it means that the party leader can do whatever they want without having to think about anyone else's ideas. With a small majority, they have to keep all their backbenchers on board so can't go mad on their own ideology.
@ParadigmShifter-zx5fq
8 күн бұрын
Important thing is trying to push the Tories into 3rd place... not the official opposition... can only ask 1 question at PMQs... no guaranteed right to reply or voice on news/politics programmes. Their funding will disappear and then they will... this is the opportunity they have gifted to us, use it.
@gregorybiestek3431
8 күн бұрын
@@quintuscrinis8032 The other problem with a super majority is that it encourages the backbenchers to rebel because there are only so many ministerial jobs, party jobs, etc., that can be doled out to keep them happy. What can then happen is what has happen with the Tories - factions that are always plotting and going rogue on policy. Labour could unfortunately develop their own version of the ERG or the five families.
The Tories death spiral started when Johnson became the pm"the lies then truss nailed the coffin"then sunak buried them".
The issue Grant Shapps, or Mr Green to some of his customers, is saying is that a Labour super majority is at the expense of Tory seats. What needs to happen is a super majority for Labour, with the Lib Dems as opposition. The Tories must not be allowed to have more than 10 seats in the country. They are not fit even to be the opposition. The Tory party have to be removed as a political party in perpetuity.
@garyh1572
8 күн бұрын
They need to be made an illegal organisation.
@bonariablackie4047
7 күн бұрын
@@garyh1572 I agree. You have to remember that there would be robust opposition to Labour. The Unionists, SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Lib Dems. It's not like Labour would get a super majority and there would be no opposition just because the Tories are completely wiped out. What is absolutely critical is the Tories are destroyed so that they can never come back. The few that are left will probably join Reform, because nobody else would have them, and Reform will never get a single seat. Hopefully Croydon residents have enough brain not to have the lying Grifter Nige as their MP. If they vote for him, they deserve everything they get.
Ed's a nice bloke.
@sherlockgnomes8971
7 күн бұрын
But can’t answer a single question that is asked
Can someone corner schapps on telly about his dodgey on line scams and his multiple names... pleeeeeze
@supernoodles91
8 күн бұрын
They do want to but when the media ask, Michael Green, Sebastian Fox and Corrine Stockheath are always busy when asked to appear......😉
No more Tories any more, !
@annphillips1086
7 күн бұрын
There will be Tories. Possibly more than you suspect. They're depressingly resilient. Make sure everyone you know (and can trust not to vote Tory) gets out there and does their bit! None of this "couldn't be bothered because they're as bad as each other" nonsense.
Tories had a 80 seat majority!? Did Tories change voting rules, ID etc? This is the Trump like response. When Trump said lock her up, he said lock me up.
@MajorCharlesCarringtonV.C
8 күн бұрын
He claimed he didn't say lock her up other people did lol
@hypsyzygy506
8 күн бұрын
Tories changed voting rules for London Mayor, reduced the number of MPs and reorganised constituency boundaries to favour themselves, introduced compulsory ID to vote,
@MajorCharlesCarringtonV.C
7 күн бұрын
@@hypsyzygy506 Gerrymandering
@neilbradley100
7 күн бұрын
@@hypsyzygy506boundary changes were long overdue, to keep constituencies of broadly equal size, and are organised by the boundary commission. Labour on the other hand intend to give the vote to 16 year old purely for electoral advantage. Shame on them.
@smith_5345
7 күн бұрын
@@MajorCharlesCarringtonV.CI've seen people say this, there is literally video footage of him saying it, back on his old trucks
I hear Sebastian Fox and Corinne Stockheath agree entirely with Grant Shapps
@anonUK
8 күн бұрын
What does Michael Green say?
@Rexel4th
8 күн бұрын
Why is everyone talking about Grant Shapps? That was clearly Michael Green being interviewed.
@ednorton47
8 күн бұрын
@@Rexel4th What's the difference?
@Jessjoe1956
8 күн бұрын
He may have to create yet another new name after July 4th.
Best show in town.... keeping an eye on the election from New Zealand
Tories had a large majority and blew it........
@hypsyzygy506
8 күн бұрын
I suspect Johиsoи was too busy being blown.
How can there possibly be still undecided between Tory and Labour. How many years of evidence do you need to make an evaluation of their competence? How many mistakes, scandals, gaffs and so on would it take to convince people they are a lame duck. Utterly bewildering the level of self harm in this country.
The first past the post system is vile, nasty and anachronistic. Saor Alba
@ednorton47
8 күн бұрын
No it isn't. It is majority rule.
@therealrobertbirchall
8 күн бұрын
@ednorton47 no it isn't no government even those with large majorities has ever achieved over 50% of the popular vote. FPTP is broken time for some sort of PR.
@hypsyzygy506
8 күн бұрын
FPTP in the UK almost always guarantees a government that around 65% of the people who cast their votes did not support. That is certainly not majority rule.
Typical hypocrisy from the tories.
They will be hammerd to many people in the UK have had it with the Tories.Health care and so many more things what have gone wrong in the UK.
@DarkFire515
8 күн бұрын
Yep. Nothing works, nothing is affordable and the corrupt tory government have done nothing for the average working person.
@therealrobertbirchall
8 күн бұрын
Things have not gone wrong they have been neglected while the tory party fill their pockets and those of the unaccountable American oligarchs who actually control our economy.
The next government have to rejoin the customs union and the single market. The Tories won't do that so they are stuck in a Mogg world of Australian butter policy. It's Country first and Brexit second and everyone knows that.
I think you can't fail to like Ed Davey. Seems like a great guy.
Just a couple of months ago Sunak was asking tory mps what they thought about when to call an election.So terrified of upsetting his own mps he concluded most wanted it over and done with.He knew he would probably lose when he called it.This is a managed defeat playing out and its every man and woman for themselves.The whole country needs to see the back of them
Rishi didn't have Sky TV in the early 90s, when a whopping 2-3% over and above the 1% did. If that is not the epitomy of understanding the hardships of the working folk, I don't know what is. Rarely in the history of this nation have so few, been envied by so many, for so little. To broadly paraphrase what the D-Day veterans were told to inspire them in the early days of the war.
We DON’T WANT, “exciting,” politicians! Look what they’ve done to us!? Give me a boring, committed, hard working politician who does their job with honesty and diligence!
I too was denied a Girl’s World toy as a kid but for different reasons 😂
When we had our first child we had little money coming in. My son complained that all his friends had tv's and we didn't. I went to the local auction bought 2 tv,s, one had picture no sound and the other had sound no picture put the sound one on the floor with a tablecloth over it and the one with picture on top total cost £4 lol. Got bye with that for 12 months.
@Somaliland44
8 күн бұрын
😂😂, but what happened when you changed the channels? Picture & sound wouldn't be synchronized.
@annphillips1086
7 күн бұрын
Ingenious!
@johndewhurst6609
7 күн бұрын
well if my son wanted a different channel you had to change channels on both tv's
Polly McKenzie said something about plastic bags that was famous at the time.
Sunaknackered 😂
Any number of supermarket "food" products should be banned rather than cigarettes
The Tories were wiped out in Havant! They must be petrified...
I can remember Alec Douglass Home and a little more. Sunak is without doubt the worse prime minister ever and I include Truss.
@SuezWSuezW
8 күн бұрын
Although Cameron started the rot by his weakness.
@annphillips1086
7 күн бұрын
Truss might have been worse if she'd had longer to work on it.
Restricting sugar consumption is far more urgent than more efforts on nicotine
The most important thing is the Tories are all sacked via the ballet box.
@SuezWSuezW
8 күн бұрын
Those ballerinas all have high kicks!
But it's ok for the Tories to have their majority in 2019. Funny how they cry when it's not them benefitting.
It's a bit rish to say that 'labour will change the rules..." When the Tories have already tried that 'trick' by redrawing the constituancy boundaries!
That bit about the Ladbroke´s bettng on Ed Davey´s next activity, classic!
Maybe he's referring to the disastrous landslide in 2019? His own party?
They might as well.
Today massive university fees were introduced by the lib dem coalition.
10% thought him leaving Normandy was right?
@gregorybiestek3431
8 күн бұрын
The British version of the Trump MAGA voter.
@chriswatson3464
7 күн бұрын
Some people are just crazy, at all times and places.
@annphillips1086
7 күн бұрын
That's the % he was talking to when he insisted repeatedly that he stayed for all the Brit bits.
🤗 Love the background scenery😍😍😍🌷
One problem the Tories have is they can't threaten that Labour will crash the pound (Brexit, and Truss, already did that).
Ed Davy won’t answer the question about the coalition will he? Disappointing.
you've got it all wrong, big majorities are correlated with big change but it's not causation a disciplined majority could do the same big changes as a "supermajority"
When did Ed Davey develop a Gordon Brown like breathing tick.
Do the LibDems stand in NI? Not a UK wide party, then.
So big labour maj bad for Decomcy but big tory maj greay for decomcy?
You need a better Ireland policy to get back into the EU?
My parents didn't play my homework in front of the tv the went work on there 2 weeks off.😂😂😂😂😂 miss them
Assemble I-Keir furniture.
Can someone please advise Ed Davey that the noise he makes while clearing his nose/ sinuses when speaking is extremely distracting 😣
@luke7708
8 күн бұрын
i was scrolling the comments to see if someone had detected this. I think in fairness, it is probably a bit of a 'tic'.
Lewis will be forever known as Lewis "naught boy" Goodall.
Ed Davey with the ability to engage in conversation with a journo out performs Fishi (no sky tv) Rishi. BTW trulely believe the Libs thought they could control the Tories in the early 2010s. Which was naive, they should have seen Pork Chop Cameron was not popular and built upon their popularity & base voters. However, in hindsight and maybe a bit nuance view - maybe a blessing. In the time since the tories have ripped themselves apart within 15 years & chances are the Libs will be the 2nd biggest party. Who'd have thought that would happen? Well played Lib dems!
"Get your money for nothing and your Sky TV"
Could you imagine changing your vote from the party you want, to a party you don't want because a poll predicts too many others will vote the same way as you!?
The issue with very privileged leaders is that they have no idea of the consequences of their policies. Sunak was insulated from the real world of most people from a very early age and Cameron, Johnson and Osborne never knew that world in any shape or form. Sunak was the man who removed the benefits "uplift", Cameron the man who demolished much of the modern social welfare system and removed so much from schools that we now have studenst who cannot cope and cannot be supported. The problem of privilege is that you don't see - or even conceptualise - the consequences of your actions and leaders need to know that cut "x" leades to service "Y" being removed which means that child "Z" suffers and that echoes down the generations. The most unforgiveable the tories did was egtting rid of sure start as they have just entrenched poverty and hopelessness through the generatiosn. If a society is judged by how well it treats it's most vulnerable then we have failed utterly and the tories in the guise of the wealthy posh boys are the cause of this.
They hate that the working class want someone to represent them
Canibis has lots of pain management and help for childhood epilepsy its insane that its not legal as there's more western countries legalizing it now then don't.
Would Rishi Sunak have dared to leave the D-Day commemoration early if Queen Elizabeth II were still on the throne and he still had a weekly audience with her? I don't think so. But King Charles is a different story altogether. The Royal doesn't stop laughing and smiling. On the rare occasions when he's trying to appear regal and somber, he looks as if he's on the verge of breaking down into fits of high-class guffaws at any moment. He and Camilla come across like a TV comedy duo. So, of course, Rishi thought he was top dog and, on a day when he should have stayed in Normandy, chose instead to rush back to the UK for a very average TV interview with ITV.
Perhaps next time you have a pollster on you could put the poll onscreen so we could see where the parties are that don't get you clicks, at least we have Yougov I supose!
this pollster is no john curtice
Probably the implication of Sunak's D-Day absence will be seen in two weeks time.
This is their new ad campaign.
Grant should ask himself why there's going to be a massive Labour landslide 😮
Not to worry, the rest of the country will admit it for them.
Bring back interviews when the interviewer waits for the interviewee to stop talking before he starts talking over them
People back in the 1990s didn't want a Sky dish on their house because it was owned by Rupert Murdoch. You didn't want to pay money every month into the pocket of Murdoch, this is why we never got Sky until 2005 and only then we got it, because we had to go digital sooner rather than later.
@therealrobertbirchall
8 күн бұрын
Sky and broadcast media are obsolete.
@rustynail1194
8 күн бұрын
Never paid a penny to that scumbag Murdoch.
@HelmutSchmacker.
8 күн бұрын
They’re taking you for a fool. There’s an alternative, independent news scene now, where investigative journalism still thrives. Try UK column news for starters...
@johnking5174
8 күн бұрын
@@therealrobertbirchall Not in 2005 when we got it
@methanedirigible
8 күн бұрын
Not all people. Everyone I know didn’t have the money. Nothing to do with Murdoch.
J'étais pauvre, mes parents étaient pauvres, même les servantes étaient pauvres.
This is, without doubt, the most boring election campaign in history. Everyone knows what is going to happen. The only question is how many Tories will be left standing and how hard to the right they will pivot following their defeat.
This Libdem guy is not ready to take up a serious role 😒 😮
Davey is embarrassing with his clown behaviour . Also couldn’t answer a single question directly that Lewis asked . Lost my vote
The bland statement that brexit was a mistake displays the still sickening arrogance of journalism.
@charliecampbell197
6 күн бұрын
This discussion about sky TV and B&W TV is absurd.
IMO Sunak feels he came from a poor family because compared to most of the kids at his school, he DID come from a poor family.
Why no mention of the Ed Davey interview in the title?
sunak's always had next-to-no backing in the party, & his immature eagerness to try to assert himself in every photo-op situation has looked exactly that. most of the sitting tories seem largely uninterested in trying to win an election at this moment in time - although we ought to expect the hail mary, nonetheless. all of which is to say, for those seeking to frame events responsibly, i believe it's of paramount importance to avoid focusing on the ed davey without the irony of sunak & those at least seeking to make-up some numbers around him, & keep the focus on the election as the public's chance at last to remove the tories in a responsible way - otherwise boris / gameron et al will just take the party straight back. we - that is you - have to keep the focus on the inability of the tories to walk away from trump, even as he has become more & more detached from reality. the post-election tories will be the same - or worse - party of bad actors they have been exposed to be, prior to handing the stinking mess to sunak
I live in a constituency with a Lab majority of just 145(!), the Tories also won the mayoral election here last year. However, I haven’t had a single leaflet from them through the door. No-one has knocked either since the election was called. I guess they just need to defend 326 existing seats rather than win any but you’d imagine they at least have some targets in this “80-20” strategy? Guessing their lack of presence here is just a product of a moribund campaign.
@buzzukfiftythree
7 күн бұрын
I live in a constituency where the Tories had a 15k majority in 2019, but the Lib Dem party now control the council with 22 councillors against the Tories 7. Have had several Lib Dem leaflets etc. but not one Tory leaflet so far. Many Lib Dem and some Labour posters around but not one Tory one. They have clearly given up.
❤❤😂😂😂
Not sure if interviewers know this, it’s very irritating when you keep asking the same question trying to g for a ‘gotcha’ moment.
Why is Ed Davey snorting like a bull?
Is Davies taking the mickey sitting in front of that van or does he live in it?
@cmeonthemove
6 күн бұрын
Ironic that he was sat in front of a campervan given the current Government are working hard to demonise those that live or go on holiday in such vehicles by getting all parking for them banned.
Farage is quite batrachoidal isn't he?
:)
A fake name using get rich quick salesman telling us we shouldn't wipe out his party..... Ok then!
Is Ed Davey trying to get rid of imaginary corks up his nose?! What’s with the snorting?!?!
27:40 What is that disgusting snorting noise? I can't stand this a moment longer. *OFF!* {:o:O:}
If you live in a foreign land you should keep out of it. You left the country so don't have the right to get involved
With the Conservatives admitting defeat, there is no longer a reason for Labour voters to go to the polls.
@spacebound1522
8 күн бұрын
There's ALWAYS a reason to go to the polls.... people fought and died so that you may have that right. Whoever you intend to vote for, just get out and vote!
@boogaloo4640
8 күн бұрын
That's what they're hoping for.....Labour voters becoming complacent.
@mogzybuster
8 күн бұрын
Not voting IS a vote for the tories, even if they don't win if they manage to swindle enough votes to result in a Labour minority they will stall and block any vote in Parliament and then tell you it was Labour's fault. Exactly the same way they have been blaming Labour for their own failings in a disastrous 14 years, mostly with a tory majority. Be bothered, take the time to register, make sure you have votor I'd and VOTE, vote for whoever you want, prefer, want to give a chance to. Especially if you are not supporting sunak, not voting IS a proxy vote for him, so get out and vote for someone else and help get them out, that's what they deserve.
vote Reform - a 3-4% swing from Tory supporters will win them seats and bring a reformed Tory party without the current broken cabal
Vote reform 🏴
There lies just keep coming there the lowest party ever
This lot talking about democracy? What about sunak? What about sunak was he elected by Britain