Are the Changes to the 2020 Honda Civic Si Enough to Make it a Baby Type R?
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For over 30 years, the #CivicSi has developed a large following of enthusiast from its affordable price, easy to drive nature, and easy nature to tune the heck out of the motor and get more power. In 2017, #Honda shocked us with the first ever Turbo #HondaCivicSi and some were not happy with the loss of the signature #VTEC snarl of the old K-series engines. For 2020, the Civic #Si gets a few light tweaks to improve the styling, acceleration, and technology and for $25,000, it's one of the best performance bargain available today.
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I always see an HDMI port when I see the exhaust of these Civics.
@RomanM803
4 жыл бұрын
Brunark or those Android charging ports.
@GRUNTS2013
4 жыл бұрын
You plug your tv in to see whats happening inside the engine, that’s the purpose of it
@slimpickering1699
4 жыл бұрын
All the round things you must imagine when you see a round exhaust. Dizzying.
@robertalicea5585
4 жыл бұрын
And lunch tray looking rear bumper accents
@Mrtrunks
4 жыл бұрын
I pointed that out to my wife and she can’t unsee it now
Thank you Honda for providing manual transmission
A red Honda for a Redline Review.
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
Yet no Redline score? Still a great review as usual though.
@80s_Boombox_Collector
4 жыл бұрын
Witty!
@abb05
4 жыл бұрын
can never unsee it now lmao
In Canada we had the LED headlights since the beginning. I find it weird that in the US it was only on the Touring and Type R models
@williamsaad6833
4 жыл бұрын
And I prefer the wheels before this model year but the only thing that bugs me is that the Touring had the same wheels as the Si for 2019
@f181234
4 жыл бұрын
William Saad We also get Heated rear seats, built in Navigation, built in wireless charger and a spare tire usually Canadian Honda’s are usually better equipped even our CRV gets a panoramic sunroof
@bloopbloop2019
4 жыл бұрын
I ain't from Canada but ik alot of teens
@williamsaad6833
4 жыл бұрын
f181234 This I didn’t know. Pretty surprised
@skifree0
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamsaad6833 I drive a 17 Canadian Si and it fascinates me how different the Canadian version is this generation. The differences are actually summed up in that the US model is based on an Ex-T, where the Canadian Si was a touring model with the safety sensors removed. The actual reasoning iirc was that civics are significantly more popular in canada and they have to add in a little more value to keep it relevant up here. also fun fact, Canadian civics in general have a 2x larger windshield washer tank and is placed on the driver side. Incredibly underrated feature that I can dump over a gallon of washer fluid once the low indicator shows up (which apparently is also a Canadian thing).
Wow 2 vids in one morning? This is going to be a fun lunch hour of videos! Thanks Sofyan!
I love my 2017 Civic Si! The price to performance ratio can’t be beat. The amount of car you get at this price is incredible.
i think they should dump the Si sedan and make a hatch Si. All i see are Hatch civics. I have two kids and id love a hatch Si since a type R is not in my cards now.
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
I like the sedan better, but I do think they should add a hatch Si.
@bloopbloop2019
4 жыл бұрын
Be a cool dad and get the R. Your kids will get alot of chicks when you drop them off at school. 😎
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
@@bloopbloop2019 Of course, there's always that cost difference also. In my case, my kids would rather have food in their mouth than the Type R in the driveway.
@BrawlFreak786
4 жыл бұрын
I agree the sedan looks ugly so a hatch si would look good
@nicktune1219
4 жыл бұрын
Get a Hyundai Veloster N. It's $10,000 cheaper.
For adaptive cruise control the shifter should move by itself 😂
@GianniEndo
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao ghost shifting
@doloresberry3144
3 жыл бұрын
Ya we should call it an automatic! Because it automatically shifts!
As someone who autocrosses my 2019 SI. I would've rather wanted to see a slightly longer gearing. In autocrossing I find myself shifting to 3rd gear often. Second gear tops out at 57mph. There is a lot more time to be gained by saving the second to third gear shift. Could probably get under 6 seconds to 60mph.
Sofyan is a good commentator , I really enjoy his reviews
@oceansyde5746
4 жыл бұрын
I always read his name like Soy Fan. Maybe he is one. That would be cool
@zolitariglussey6302
4 жыл бұрын
I like it when a Car has more acceleration than he thought it would have and he screams like a little girl!!
@kimojon9665
4 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that he says "actually" "actually""actually""actually""actually""actually""actually" every other word! I can't take him saying that so I mute the sound on his overviews.
I have been waiting for this 2020 review thanks
"ILX is an Si in Acura drag" 😂
@normt5463
4 жыл бұрын
...from a 2013 Civic...
@rodneynasir8089
4 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@travis9612
4 жыл бұрын
@Viet Nguyen not for the ilx
@caglioso
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice way of putting it. The Si or any current civic put the ILX to shame since it’s still the previous gen civic platform with zero added features or updates.
@prince_sach50
4 жыл бұрын
ILX is whack just go for the TLX SH-AWD V6. Solid car
This is a pretty good buy! Great reviews Sofyan! Nice to see you have a passenger with you! Makes it even more fun!!!
Been waiting for this review
I wish they would make a fit type r. Like what the straightpipes showed in their fit sport video
@bloopbloop2019
4 жыл бұрын
You could just buy a sport, and tune it.
@3FreddyKrueger
4 жыл бұрын
They actually are making a fit type r BUT only for Japan. Who knows if it'll release outside of Japan let alone the USA.
@jordanrosenberg9816
4 жыл бұрын
@@3FreddyKrueger Another JDM we have to wait for 25 years
@bluedream6462
4 жыл бұрын
@@3FreddyKrueger doubt it'll come here since the base fit isn't even coming to the US :/
@alansmilealot
4 жыл бұрын
@@jordanrosenberg9816 I blame the people that want a Honda Odyssey type r instead of something light and nimble
Aesthetically I found it really helped to get the red HFP mats and an after market flat bottom wheel, as well as some carbon fiber interior accessories.
@rappercentral703
Жыл бұрын
Just get the HFP trim it’s all round better and extra engine stuff
Nice video, I love how Clint from Motor One. Is consisting Soyfan that Honda did not s*** the bed with thia version of the Si. It made me chuckle.
extra 10 grand for the type R okay, maybe used with 15k miles
@macdiddles7000
4 жыл бұрын
Silverstone AP2 it wouldn’t take too much to hit 3’s in these
@jayprimo
4 жыл бұрын
They're going for sticker now, the mark up is done.
@EMed9423
4 жыл бұрын
@@jayprimo Thank god. I remember the 2017s were going for 40-50k
@jayprimo
4 жыл бұрын
@@EMed9423 Yea, I know. Some dealers still trying to get away with, especially with a first year low nunbered model, but where I an in NY for the most part you can walk into majority of Honda dealers and pay sticker for a brand new one. Which works in my favor, no volume knob on 16-17s is a dealbreaker for me lol
@EMed9423
4 жыл бұрын
Jay Primo exactly. I can’t justify the hikes up price. I would rather get a civic and out in 10k and call it a day then an extra 5k for a type R
Me and my wife looked at getting an Si for her but we settled on a 2018 Civic Sport Hatchback 6MT. We’ve absolutely been 100% happy with it. It’s nimble, it’s decently quick, and it’s fun to drive. Thanks for the review Soyfan! ✌🏼
Does the change in the final drive ratio help the car get to 60mph before you have to shift to 3rd gear? That was the issue in the MY2016-2019, the non-SI could hit 60mph b4 3rd whereas the SI would need 2-shifts to hi 60 around the same time.
To this day I still don't understand why people still complain about colors, interior, etc. Its 2019 you can wrap a car to whatever color u want. And the interior u have to remember the price range of the car, u can't except luxury. Its a fun cheap car to drive.
@user-gm4kv2my4u
4 жыл бұрын
A good wrap isn't exactly cheap you know.
@michaeljordan7733
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm4kv2my4u true but just a figure of speech
I wish that type R came in a two-door. I'd turn an si into a type r if I was a youtuber.
I own a 2018 Si sedan with a greddy catback eibach lowering springs, a prl cobra cold air intake, and I’m on the tap stage 1 tune making about 300 wheel torque I’ve taken to many track days and can confirm it’s a great car
@fzr1000981
4 жыл бұрын
Your oil dilution must be crazy, hope you get it analyzed
@kevfig4114
4 жыл бұрын
@@fzr1000981 it is a problem but in cold weather areas but even then it can be fixed by changing the oil every 5k miles. Its a good car and its definitely a different type of car compared to the k series engines.
@jonathanisenhour7923
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevfig4114 would you suggest changing it lower than 5k miles? Just curious. I drive a 90s vehicle so I'm used to changing sooner lol.
@davidpistek6241
2 жыл бұрын
No problems so far and yes I looked into oil dilution issues, it used to occur if user is in a cold climate and does trips too short to warm engine so as a floridian not concerned too much, still haven't done power mods, how's the clutch, trans hold up I have a 20 si with 10k
This is a great car for the price. I do wish the hatchback was avalible in the SI trim. I love that LED headlamps are on here finally. I think you hit it on the head with pointing put there is not as big of a jump in power and acceleration between the standard Civic and SI and there was in the prior gen and its NA engine options
I have a 2018 Honda Civic Si coupe. I added the auto-dimming rearview mirror when I originally financed it. I'm noticing on Honda's website that it's not an option you can select any longer on the 2020 models. I know they have Honda Sensing, but do they come with the auto-dimming rearview mirror as standard or is it no longer supported? If so, WTF!
Civic Sport Hatch 6mt life! haha. Love the Si though, I just need that hatch space.
DUDE. Did you guys get these intro shots or was that Honda? If y'all did it, it's fly af
Can somebody tell me if it has valves in the exhaust or only burbles like that in sport mode? I drove a 2020 sedan and it didn’t pop or burble.
I know they just came out but do the 2020 models have the oil dilution issue? I’m highly thinking of getting it.
Does anyone know if the 1.5 liter engine dilution problem was fixed? Great looking car, but I wont buy it because of the issue.
@fzr1000981
4 жыл бұрын
You need the 2.0 which has the baffled head
Nice video. One thing...you might consider replacing the camera that hangs down between the front seats facing forward...it can't handle the dynamic range in lighting between the interior/dash and the outside world thru the windshield...the outside world just gets blown out quite frequently. Anyway, something to think about. Not sure what sensor size would handle that, but you could start at micro four thirds. But in any case, content is king and you are doing a great job with good content.
The engine sounds really good inside the car. This despite the fact it's a turbo charged 4 cyl.
@BartlettRacing66
4 жыл бұрын
It's fake sound
Just bought a 2020 love it.
Great review sofyan
Great review and dialog. Almost bought your ILX...
Love the video. I have to have those sunglasses. What are they if you don’t mind me asking ????
The HDMI exhaust is a turn off. I wish Honda would add a dual or quad exhaust
@gta_3714
4 жыл бұрын
Webster Kollie I was thinking the same thing. Looks really ugly in the back
@zatharos6427
4 жыл бұрын
Agree to disagree
@kayden9549
4 жыл бұрын
I have the 2019 sport hatch and I think it looks miles better than the Si and you’re only give up 25 hp lol. Once I get a tune I’ll be over the 205 that the Si has👌🏼
@80s_Boombox_Collector
4 жыл бұрын
Steal the tips from a Sport hatch, yo.
@KingOfEden12
4 жыл бұрын
Or you could give it a single exhaust off the side since giving it a quad or dual would be overkill and Y style pipes are pretty... idk fake ?
I bought a 2020 civic si coupe in pearl white, and I LOVE IT! The amount of SAFE power you can get with JUST tuning, is crazy. I believe this car will be the used car teen enthusiasts will love, even more than the frs, gti, and maybe the wrx.
@davidpistek6241
2 жыл бұрын
I got mine because there is nothing more enjoyable as a daily for the price, blue sedan but the coupe looks better, have kids need the doors
You guys are on my favorite road! Bullock Hollow!
I forgot about the car once Clint showed up 🥳🙈
The only turn off for me is the super heavy flywheel that makes the Revs hang on as you up shift.
@carterdavis2793
4 жыл бұрын
Still not as bad as the WRX and other lower prices vehicles
In canada, the Civic Si actually comes standard with wireless charging, so haha Sofyan!
@Icebullett
3 жыл бұрын
really?
@betsytuberson7388
3 жыл бұрын
Wireless charging isn’t standard, you pay extra for it, there was two at the dealership one with and one without. I got the one with
i would love this interior with the typer r engine/drivetrain. simple and clean without the over the top red bits
Does this car have huge tuning potential? I would buy a Honda type R but the dealership wants 5,000 dollars above msrp..
Bought one, and I love it ❤️❤️
@davidpistek6241
2 жыл бұрын
I've had mine for 10 thousand miles so far ,it's a great little car
5:01 obviously looks better with the center exhaust rather than the maxi pad "diffuser" of lesser models
Would this be a great car for a new manual driver?
This is the most sexual tension I've ever seen in a car review.
I must not have that rev beep turned on I never hear that, not that I want to though either lol
The exhaust looks like a phone charging port.
@RomanM803
4 жыл бұрын
xlasvegan7x those Android ones 😂😂😂😂
@prince_sach50
4 жыл бұрын
lol
@Daniel-rw2gy
4 жыл бұрын
more like HDMI port
why do people like leather??? its feels weird and burns in the summer..
@OmarRodriguez1
4 жыл бұрын
dude leather suuucks in the winter too. i'm so used to my 18 si cloth that when i got into someone's leather car after sitting overnight in 40 degrees it was harsh
@ciello___8307
4 жыл бұрын
It looks nice i guess
@alexc7864
4 жыл бұрын
Yup I used to have an Acura tl type s that had leather seats. They would burn my legs in the summer then in the winter the would be so cold I would refuse to sit on them until the heated seats got warm enough. I have just a normal Honda civic ex coupe now and aside from it being manual the cloth seats have to be my favorite part about the switch. They never get cold or hot! They just exist and its great!!
@streetdemons991
4 жыл бұрын
Easier to clean and doesn't absorb dust
@donavanguevara1806
4 жыл бұрын
@@streetdemons991 i respect it. i just dont like getting burned, i dont mind a lil dust Xp
I have the 2019 SI the only thing I wish my car had is the LED headlights everything else I'm cool with on my car. Lol just a ktuner 2.5" exhaust & K&N drop in filter that's all I need, woke it up quite a bit.
@eddiemcars
4 жыл бұрын
George R you can get pnp led touring units from theretrofitsource.com
@honda116969
4 жыл бұрын
@@eddiemcars ill check it out. Thank u bro
@carlosvillalobos8431
4 жыл бұрын
Get a PRL cold air intake. Look it up. Best intake in the market plus it add a great sound when letting go off the throttle. I have it on my 2018 and it's great
@KingOfEden12
4 жыл бұрын
If you want the best bang for your buck performance modification, invest in Hondata Flashpro. Thank me later
Ive owned a few si’s and never noticed power increase with vtec. So glad they went with turbo
Is the oil delusion problem corrected for this model year?
Great Review Of 2020 Honda Civic Si. 😁
Any tips on keeping the cloth interior clean? I have a 17 hatchback and the driver side and center console cloth gets quite ashy and stains lol
@Mr94Integra
4 жыл бұрын
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Awesome Review 👍
Awesome review
The GLI comes with the added 8k plus I depreciation lol
Only $25,000, the price is perfect! Type R $36K, out of reach most of people
What I want is the Type R in the Coupé body style. The Si still doesn't quite have the zip I'm after and the hatch body on the R is just U G L Y.
@pigeon1519
4 жыл бұрын
With about $2500 - $3000 in upgrades you can achieve about 315 WHP. Thats more then the type R. So get a used 17 Si for 21K, get the mods and you’re still under 25K. I have spent about $1600 in mods and I’m pushing 280 WHP and i love it.
@richracing7420
4 жыл бұрын
@@pigeon1519 you can tune a type r too. The motor is better in the type-r also.
@pigeon1519
4 жыл бұрын
Rich Racing oh yeah no definitely, i just dont like the hatch look. In addition, i have yet to see a type priced for what it should be, they’re all up selling the price.
@hussali8838
4 жыл бұрын
pigeon151 how that stock clutch holding up. Heard the stock clutch on these start to slip after 20psi lol
Is this year affected by oil dilution?
Honda should have kept the high revving na engine, which is what the Si has always been known for. This is just disappointing.
I have a 2019 sedan. Love it! I love the space and how it handles. Only hit I give it is the lack of leather/premium interior upgrade and power. But I got a ktuner and no mods with tsp tune makes this si the car it should've been off the dealership. With that tune u can say baby type R for sure!
@zatharos6427
4 жыл бұрын
Its a 24k car. You cant expect much in terms on interior quality at that price point
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
I like the 2019 much better with the exception of the LED headlights.
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
@@zatharos6427 Tell Mazda that, they would disagree.
@cliffordhaines6495
4 жыл бұрын
Yup... Exactly. Mazda interior is done right! But lack the sport power. I came out of a Mazdaspeed 3. Man if they made a speed 3 of this current Mazda. I would trade my car in
@zatharos6427
4 жыл бұрын
WB Wayne if you’re talking about the Mazda3, its a brand new model what did you expect lol
Why no hatchback version of the Si?
@doloresberry3144
3 жыл бұрын
They wanted to differentiate from the R
The Civic Si has better long-term resale value than the GLI, so that’s something to consider!
@thelitemaster
4 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a buyout on this at the end of lease?
@jayprimo
4 жыл бұрын
@@thelitemaster I would suggest to never buy out a lease, period. You're paying for a car for 8 years, you'll never get in the black, aside from a few exceptions to the rule. Sock some money away during your lease, and finance out a brand new one at the end of the term.
To eliminate rev hang: simply drop off the throttle earlier and wait and extra quarter second to put in the clutch and viola!, No rev hang.
You need to get your hands on a Forte GT with the DCT.
Is it front wheel drive or four wheel drive?
does the 2020 si have factory tinted window?
How does the bucket front seat feel like? Will people get tired after a long drive?
@ValkenDnB
3 жыл бұрын
It’s comfy. It’s not overly bolstered to where it’s completely stiff, but instead a little plush.
Is this still having oil dilution issues?
I'm glad you always floor these cars and show the Potential buyer what they really want to see.... everyone really wants to know, "Will it haul ass??"........
if Honda's not going to add a dct to the Si then reduce the rev-hang and add auto rev-matching for the newbies to manual. the new cheaper manual corolla have auto rev-matching.
Nice SI, subtle redesign. Rear turn & back up lights could be better integrated. Looked better in previous model ... IMO ... Cheers !
The best thing about the Elantra Sport is that Kia offers a better looking alternative on the same platform, the Forte GT. Hyundai ruined the Elantra Sport in 2019. Not sure what they were thinking.
@user-gm4kv2my4u
4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they wanted people to move up to the Sonata. Its polarizing too but at least it doesn't scream "I'M AN ECONOMY CAR!" like the new Elantra.
@wbwayne8887
4 жыл бұрын
@@user-gm4kv2my4u The new 2020 Sonata looks really amazing. You could be right.
Does it only have a manual transmission?
Really great car! Glad safety systems are standard. I would go with the coupé model ❤️
@burningknuckle26
4 жыл бұрын
😍
Can the artificial exhaust sound be turned off?
Same turbo chargrd 1.5 L as the CRV, and the CRV has the oil dilution problem.
@J-W.-
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think it's just CRV problem honestly havent heard any owners having it with Civic.
@trucktwister
4 жыл бұрын
@@J-W.- my 2018 si definitely has the oil dilution issue. Honda even extended the warranty to 6 years because they can't fix it after a software update.
@80s_Boombox_Collector
4 жыл бұрын
And what about the AC problem, did they finally fix that? 2016-2018 Civics had bad AC systems, so Honda granted an extended warranty but dealers often claim it was normal wear and tear.
Cannot find the intro song. Any possible help??
How did you rev it so high?
I just bought mine 2018 Civic hatchback EX-T. I also tried Mazda 3 Hatch back, after testing both cars, I went for the Civic. Civic hatchback has Good resale value... I still like Mazda 3 Hatch back over many other cars...
I’m looking into getting an Si coupe, is there any big differences between a 17/18 vs a 20?
@ValkenDnB
3 жыл бұрын
2020 has the LED headlights, front garnish and rear garnish change, different wheels and red trim seats/dash, active sound (which I hate), gearing is a little different so the 6th gear is shorter that means if you drive a lot on the highway it’ll be at a higher rpm when cruising so if you drive on the highway a lot it might get annoying compared to the previous years, on top of that the Honda sensing is on this one.
@v7500squad1
3 жыл бұрын
@@ValkenDnB appreciate the breakdown big dawg! I did read about that active sound feature and how it takes away from the natural sound. That's crazy about the gear change, didn't know about that. But pretty convinced w the '20👍
This and the Civic Type R are really nice looking cars.
Does it have the same front suspension as the Type R That would make it perfect
@bluesboytyler
4 жыл бұрын
Have a 17. Some components are shared and there is virtually no torque steer.
Yayyyy been waiting for Sophyan to rip honda a new one on this civic.
An SI hatchback sporting the dual round exhaust tips would be the cats meow....
How much would it cost the SI after paying tax in the US
Keep fighting the good fight to save the manual transmission!
I will totally trade in my 2018 si for a hatchback si. Hatchback with spoilers lol.
I’m getting a new car this week and not sure if I should get this or a 2020Toyota 86/brz.
@ValkenDnB
3 жыл бұрын
Depends on practicality really. Entirely different cars. Brz/86 are super fun to drive in windy roads because of the RWD but are slow in straight lines. Si is faster in a straight line and still fun on windy roads thus not as fast on the corners since it’s FWD. Both are fun manual transmission cars. When you compare them both I think the si is a better value money wise.
Is there any talk of making the Type R in the 2door coupe?
@cartere9981
3 жыл бұрын
They should I like the look of the si coupe better then the type r
This man always wants to “find out” things. Lmao
Turbocharge 1.5 I4 with direct injection no thank you. Ill take the 2.4 I4 with port injection anyday dont trust these motors from any manufacture even Honda.
@jayprimo
4 жыл бұрын
You're right to feel that way. You should see what the intake valves look like at higher mileage on these GDI engines 😱
@zoezzzarko1117
3 жыл бұрын
@@jayprimo What do you consider to be "high mileage" ?
@jayprimo
3 жыл бұрын
@@zoezzzarko1117 Referencing mileage in terms of direct injection engines was misinformed on my part, it's more so the type of mileage that'll ruin these engines. Short trips and lots of traffic/ stop and go driving are horrible for these types of engines.
@zoezzzarko1117
3 жыл бұрын
@@jayprimo Great to know. Thanks so much !!! My mazda 2.3L stick shift loved long drives too. She was happiest on the open road for sure
I miss the sound of my old neon SRT4 😩🥰, even in stock form it sounded like a beast.
The shift beep reminds me of the RX7 shift buzzer
I like the quietness of the stock exhaust without drawing attention when you want to step on it.
Like the black wheels on the coupe a lot. It’s not beautiful but at least it’s not ridiculous looking either. I test drove one of these 2020 and it’s super fun and a real deal.
This is a good review