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Not all Space Marine Chapters are equal, but are the Black Templars the most powerful of all?
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@y0lerok757
18 күн бұрын
It'll be awesome to have a black templar helmet, but definitely not any black heads on your nose.
@withlovefromlightindust591
18 күн бұрын
Hello Majorkill, Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
@TheGameMaster343
18 күн бұрын
Hey, how long have you been doing Jujitsu? I was thinking of getting into a more exciting exercising group. I am about a year younger than you, so I am curious about the effects it has on your body.
@robertflynn4215
18 күн бұрын
I think the dark angels can take on the black templars but only because their primarch Lion El'Jonson has returned with his new forestwalk psychic power and with his redeemed fallen dark angels. Plus their little helpers the watchers in the dark. For loyalty is, it's own reward.
@Bumbaclart247
18 күн бұрын
@@TheGameMaster343it’s great, but it wrecks your joints
Grey Knights: Warp sorcery. Dark Angels: Forbidden tech. Black Templars: *Sheer fucking will.*
@m_akos567
18 күн бұрын
No pity No remorse No fear
@ReinaSaurus
18 күн бұрын
deathwatch: boltgun, shotgun, frag cannon and all the different ammo types 🤣
@tap037
17 күн бұрын
Dont forget no common sense
@atoll8423
17 күн бұрын
Blood Ravens: Thieves
@hang_kentang6709
17 күн бұрын
@@tap037 abandon reason, know only war.
Guilliman : The Codex Astartes prevents.... Black Templars : I can't read
@brucemcleod4897
18 күн бұрын
This is genius.
@dalaminaubis7822
18 күн бұрын
😂
@thomash341
18 күн бұрын
This got me good
@stephengerena8848
18 күн бұрын
Somehow, they found all the loopholes for a chapter who can't read.
@jeez5735
18 күн бұрын
@@stephengerena8848if somehow palpatine returned is a viable answer then so is that
The Black Templars just wanted to go for a walk. A very enthusiastic walk.
@patrickdwyer320
18 күн бұрын
none of these goons got your Hellsing reference... but I did, friend... I did...
@adrianguerrero2949
18 күн бұрын
Nah i did too@@patrickdwyer320
@toastie8173
18 күн бұрын
Who are these 9000 marines that walk with you, Sigismund? -Oh them? Theyre my bodyguard. Me and my guards are now going for a walk.
@marcelgrabowski5939
18 күн бұрын
And they are still walking, and there are no signs they are going to stop...
@neror9499
18 күн бұрын
@@marcelgrabowski5939 long walks are important for your health! :D
They got the stubbornness of rogal, the zealotry of Sigismund, and the huge adamantium morning wood balls of Alexis Pollux. Might as well send them to the eye of terror
@scorpiontdalpha9799
18 күн бұрын
They are getting there. There is no point in eternal crusade if said crusade isn't heading to the place with a big "heresy" sign
@themarauding
18 күн бұрын
Given they pretty much camped outside it for a thousand years while Chaos licked their wounds, they've been there and done that
@skaut_games7644
18 күн бұрын
I mean sigismund was patrolling border of the eye for 1000 years So they were there too
@allanirvine7304
18 күн бұрын
Yes I have no doubt they would seriously fuck some heretic shit up
@sadlerbw9
18 күн бұрын
That is why they call it the Eye of Terror: Because it is terrified that the Black Templars might show up and give it a galactic-scale black eye!
Sigismund: "NOTICE ME!" Rogal Dorn: "No."
@Arex778
16 күн бұрын
To be fair he eventually did notice him lol
Guilliman: your chapter has been operating above the codex ? Black Templars: our crusade is eternal plus your not our dad
TTS Emperor: I am surprised one of those doesn't contain the word "Fist". TTS Rogal: That is because they are complete lunatics...
@primusstar5995
18 күн бұрын
PURGING WITH MY KINNNNNN!!!
@YTIsRanByFeds
15 күн бұрын
RRRRAAAAGGGHHHHH
Roboute Guilliman: "There shall be no Legions per accordance to the Codex Astartes!" Black Templars: *found a loophole by going on an Eternal Crusade and had numbers beyond 1,000 scattered across the galaxy* Roboute Guilliman: *surprised Pikachu face*
@pugsmeller307
18 күн бұрын
Ah yes the honored black legions
@haoo549
18 күн бұрын
Dudes, these guys are Black Templars, Black Legions is traitor
@user-iy5ww2hj4p
18 күн бұрын
If they can actually GROW in numbers while constantly crusading then they deserve to not have a numbers cap
@henrychurch6062
18 күн бұрын
You are correct. The Black Legion does indeed have more than 1000 space marines. They however use a SLIGHTLY different loophole than the Black Templars....
@ThorGiske
18 күн бұрын
Rg didn't care lol cuz bt are effective
A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions ,this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces.. this would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the succes of the heresy.
@Royce0508
18 күн бұрын
The Imperium would be warned so late and Magnus would actually be trying to disrupt the Emperor and kill Russ. Also, traitor Loken, Torgaddon, Garro and Rylanor would be so badass
@joedarling5175
18 күн бұрын
Grey knights wouldn't exist and I'm not okay with that
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
18 күн бұрын
@@joedarling5175space wolfs have entered the chat
@willhelmiii1385
18 күн бұрын
Traitors steamroll no question about it
@joedarling5175
18 күн бұрын
@@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 lol! They would be big fans for sure.
I remember in an Armageddon short story about the planetary leaders saying how impressed they were with the black Templars bringing their whole chapter to defend Armageddon and old mate helbrecht is like… yes… my whole chapter… *shifty eyes*
Guilliman: “you may only exceed 1000 marines during a crusade” Black Templars: “WE ARE NOW ON AN ETERNAL CRUSADE!!”
Likely the single largest chapter, but the Dark Angels and their successors still function as a legion run by Lion and (now) his inner circle. They literally amassed one of the largest forces of space marines after the Heresy to attack Abbadon and Vashtorr.
@jeambeam3173
18 күн бұрын
I wonder with all these reunified forces who has more numbers The Black Templars, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, or the Blood Angels succesers near Baal
@julianschumann9843
17 күн бұрын
I thought the Blood Angles at baal where like 30000, and the dark Angles at Caliban were like 60000
Old lore even said the Inquisition tried to fuck with the black templar because they were certain they were legion building. When they did the imperial fists and other Dorn chapters laid siege to titan until the Inquisition backed off.
@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf
15 күн бұрын
"Oh no, Inquisitor, we are but a thousand space marines. These other five thousand warriors are neophytes, marines in training, we would not dare elevate more than a thousand to full battle brother. We take a lot of casualties you see, not sitting all day behind a desk, unlike some, and so we need plenty of recruits. And I bet you haven't even counted us yet, am I correct? Now let me show you around the ship. This in particular is a beautiful heresy-era airlock to... dispose... of undesirable cargo." **Inquisitor Bythebo Therbook was never heard from again, listed as "MIA" during a crusade, as reported by a Black Templar Castellan**
One thing I love about the Black Templars is how well it fits for them to be working with the Sisters of Battle. When I was playing the VR game Battle Sister, it was awesome teaming up with BTs the whole game. Plus, their drip is just too cool.
Templars were a thing even during the Legion Days. They were a group of warriors dedicated to the art of melee combat. Sigismund was their leader back then as well.
Who has a good video out on this hallowing??? I always NEED MORE black templars lore!!!
Let us not forget, Black Templars exist because John Blanche wanted to paint black space marines.
@gsst6389
18 күн бұрын
I love that the most badass color to make any elit unit, black, is the one color that wastn use 😂. Yea theres the raven gaurd but like thats more sneaky stelth blend stuff but not like elit 1v1 me bro yk. 😂
@mjones4220
8 күн бұрын
They have existed since Second Edition.
I would not be surprised when rogal dorn returns he returns with mindset of black templar and goes full hard on crusade. When lion is now more level headed and there are talks that Russ will be more wise too when he returns, i think it would make sense for rogal to become truly full on emperors crusader.
I like to think Guilliman hears about them seeing this loophole and is actually proud of them for doing so. Really as you put it pretty much as long as they don't bring the whole Chapter together no one would know they are breaking the rules, since by the time the paper work showing these numbers from multiple fights make it to whomever I'm sure everyone involved would be dead.
As a Dark Angels player i agree with this video.... I mean woe on the poor fucker who manages to actually draw the ire of the entire unforgiven... But not even their own bloody primarch managed to get them set straight. The Black Templars are in that regard fairly straight forward.. you point at something you do not want to exists any longer... The black templars make sure that it is so.
@drunknnirish
18 күн бұрын
I think once the Lion loses his shit and smacks a few people all of his sons will fall in line. Most of all once they aren’t distracted by the fallen any longer. I still think the DA are the solution to any serious oh shit problem within the imperium, they just wouldn’t be ordered around by anyone, until now.
@shepardcommander143
18 күн бұрын
Hang on, are they still hunting the Fallen despite the Lion telling them to calm the fuck down?
@drunknnirish
18 күн бұрын
I mean the DA are kind of dumb so they are likely to do what they want even if dad says stop. I think they are more looking for them now instead of hunting them. Since the Lion has basically said he alone will judge them.
@MellennialCome-up
18 күн бұрын
@@shepardcommander143he trying to redeem the ones that are technically loyal because only the Higher Ups of the fallen were corrupted and most thought they were the loyalists and the lion was the traitor, The Risen are the redeem fallen, The lion realized he fucked up by trying to kill the shit out of them without a conversation. -reference is from the book Son of Forrest
@shepardcommander143
18 күн бұрын
@@MellennialCome-up Yeah, I am just wondering how the Unforgiven are taking that given the fact that they are very much focused on the whole hunting Fallen thing.
Robot Goriallaman: Only 1000 marines per chapter. Black Templars: Good look counting to 1000 when we crusade everywhere.
Another "Chapter" to talk about in this same vein would be Space Wolves since they never followed the Codex , my guess is that each Great Company is a Chapter strength force. With probably the Geneseed to bring the legion back if they wanted .
@Vim88PL
17 күн бұрын
They were under 1000 Margines strong after 13th Crusade. But they go A LOT Primaris reinforcments, making them few (5-7? ) thousand strong
@Manolonation2
13 күн бұрын
I highly doubt Majorkill would talk about Space Wolves in a good way.
Grimaldus gives the Templars the edge by giving the most badass speech on the walls of Helsreach.
Abaddon had it easy going into the Saturnine trap instead of facing Sigismund during the Siege of Terra.
I wish the crimson fists were still the poster boys of 40k. My red handed boys need a comeback
@Lycanris
18 күн бұрын
I just want to see a chapter aside from Ultramarines get some glory like the good ol days. Just for awhile
@OneShadow7
18 күн бұрын
I'm just about to start reading one of books centered around Crimson Fists, I like Ultramarines and their successors because they treat each other nicely. But I'm also looking for other chapters that are interesting in some way so far I've only read books about Ultramarines and successors and Dark Angels.
@austinguthrie5528
18 күн бұрын
Ultrasmurfs are alright. I am incredibly biased and hate them. But I will say that they do have some good stories here and there. The books set during the 3rd war for Armageddon are a good way to introduce yourselves to other chapters. Helsreach is perfect! I can't think of the name but there is one that's about the Flesh Tearers. Another great chapter. Dante's book and the Devastation of Baal are masterpieces. Good Blood Angel's books that got me to rank them as my top 10 chapter/legions 😁
@OneShadow7
18 күн бұрын
@@austinguthrie5528 Oh it must be The Flash of Cretacia, I'm currently listening on audiable another book about Fleash Tearers and another Blood Angels successor chapter, I still have half to go trough though, I will take a look at the Helsreach and the Ball/Dante next, I'm going trough Dawn of Fire at the moment and next I thought to look at Rins World because of Crimson fists or Scythes of the Emperor I love those Emperors Scythes they are so humble and heroic.
@robertflynn4215
18 күн бұрын
The only successors chapter I like from rogal Dorn is the crimson fist🙂, black templars are just too much into them selfs😒
Black templars lets go
"The dark angels would be way too overzealous" i think wed end up woth just autistic zealousness on both sidew of that fight
Majorkill badly risks alienating his audience by admitting he has female friends
@KumieZoomie
17 күн бұрын
😂
black templars and space wolves should probably be the most powerful chapters bc they're ruthless af and don't follow the codex so they're far larger than other chapters(i'm pretty sure both are between 5 and 10 thousand)
@tawesssoabbox
18 күн бұрын
Space wolfs lack the numbers, cohesion and equipment. ON a per warrior basis i´d say they are about equal in general but with very different strengths,
@TeunvanderLugt
18 күн бұрын
@@tawesssoabbox wdym they lack the numbers, they are much larger than almost any other chapter, and i'm pretty sure they generally are more tactical and cohesive than the templars, and wdym they lack the equipmeny, their equipment is at least as good as any other chapter
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
18 күн бұрын
@@TeunvanderLugtspace wolfs are weak af they one shot all the time
@akseljensen7963
18 күн бұрын
@@TeunvanderLugt the wolves have 12 great companies each numbering from 100 to 200 so they would still be outnumbered by the black templars
@alfonsrosen7294
18 күн бұрын
@@TeunvanderLugtuntil recently they where not. Before the arival of the primaris they where at most 800 strong, most likely less as stated in the Wolftime novel by Gav Thrope. Now they would number around 2.1k marines would be my guess but they wernt bigger than other chapters. Maybe after the Horus Heresy when all other legions split but the Wolves slowly but surely died off to the Size of a chapter. Until now
Black templars and space wolves are my two favourite legions and I’ll happy die on this hill
As a Black Templar Main with over 300 models, my man sword got a major boost from the title. Anything possible with a little faith sprinkle in…. - Black Templar probably
I think having their Primarchs would put the Ultramarines and DAs above the Templars. That said given how loyal they are in general i think a primarch showing up would keep a fight from breaking out.
I hear the Black Templars can make some fortified burgers and waffles. "Dig in, if you can!" - Rogal Dorn at breakfast.
Funny how a lot of people think Rogal Dorn is boring but so many people love imperial fists successor chapters
Oh my god! A majorkill video about black templars HELL YEAAHHH the emperor has blessed us this day, i have spontaneously COMBUSTED
You should discuss the greatest honor duels; detailing who was facing who, who won, and what happened after
@nella9115
18 күн бұрын
As much as i like majorkill, not sure how accurate it would be seeing as how he describes Sigismunds dual with kharn as if it was completely one sided
I think its important to note that due to the battle doctrine of many chapter, i think the black templars would lose to ultramarines because the ultramarines would assess, say "okay heres our strengths and weaknesses, and here are the enemy's, so here's what we'll do" and the templars would kind of just run at them autistically
@dfly27485
6 күн бұрын
You’re obviously not very well educated in this regard
Just picked up the Templar Combat Patrol box, perfect timing MK!!
@majorkill A video on each of the primarch’s favourite food would be cool. Also a video on how each of the pirmarch’s would react to being implanted with the butcher’s nails would be cool as well.
Sigismund just channeled his in Waaagh! power and breezes his way through his enemies.
I love the black templars they are my first army and I'm fairly new to the game but I love em. I really like you videos easy to understand short sweet and to the point ty 🙏
Another video on Gaunts Ghosts but specifically on Gaunt, please and thank you.
A video about what’s going on in the setting during our modern times might be kinda cool.
Imagine Emperor’s Champion Sigismund with Primaris upgrade. He could probably 1v1 a normal Custodes and win.
@tylerjames9539
18 күн бұрын
Regular Sigismund probably 1v1s a normal Custodes, to be honest. Primaris Sigismund probably puts up a good fight against (but does not win against) some of the less-combat oriented Primarchs.
@moreauclement9702
18 күн бұрын
@@tylerjames9539 He would be at shield captain custodes level probably
@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
18 күн бұрын
@@moreauclement9702nope
@MagnusArchitectOfFate
18 күн бұрын
Sigismund definitely 1v1 a Custodes. Abandon was able to kill a few of them during siege, and as we know, even in his old age Sigismund was a better warrior. As above comment states, there could be a probability of equal fight between weaker combat Primarchs(like Lorgar or pure melee Magnus), greater daemons(with exception of bloodthirsters, especially Skarbrand and Ka’bandha) and Valdor. Sadly, we can only speculate
@moreauclement9702
18 күн бұрын
@@MagnusArchitectOfFate Lorgar was guarded by 20 custodes After Monarchia cause the emperor thought it was the right number. Even for Sigismund, 20 custodes might be a bit much
A video on the solar war during the heresy will brighten up my day
The Black Templars were my intro into 40K. I got them as a kid with the starter box.
Love the content as always Majorkill! Any chance of a video diving into the life of Leman Russ and what he could be up to since disappearing / how he might return? Wolf daddy doesnt get enough love!
"The time of reckoning is at hand. That wretched Blood Angel cryfest is BANNED!"[
@joshp5563
16 күн бұрын
"You can't ban Sanguinala, Lord Grimaldus."
@peterwakefield5233
16 күн бұрын
@@joshp5563 SMASH! "WHY THE FUCK NOT?!"
@joshp5563
16 күн бұрын
@@peterwakefield5233 "It's heretical to..."
@peterwakefield5233
16 күн бұрын
@@joshp5563 Destroying table, "YOU'RE HERETICAL!"
Just finished sigismunds primarch book. Good timing
good to see some love for BT, suffer not the unclean to live!
So Major, when are you making a hectic, heretic slayer? Id buy it!
Top 10 Ultramarine Chapters you wouldn't think are Ultramarines. Example - The Mortificators
@drunknnirish
18 күн бұрын
Emperors Spears
video suggestion: With whom do you think they will set up a big fight with lions return?
Video idea what if the emperor wanted to be worshipped as a God and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult in order to defeat chaos gods
I really hope they rebuild the celestial lions. Such a cool story arc
The minotaurs of course! And i'm a Rogal Dorn fan but asterion moloch is top notch only a custode would be able to put him down
You DON'T Stink after BJJ; fuck that right there finally sold me
nice vid mate
A vid about everytime the Inquisition fought against the Loyalist Chapters would be great
Dark angles, they are masters of all and masters of everything 👌
Yes
What I love about them is, according to the older codex, occasionally the high lords of Terra grumble about about bringing the Black Templars back under more control. The response to this from others is (1) they are still doing the Emperor’s work and (2) do YOU want tell them that?!?
✠ No Pity ✠ No Remorse ✠ No Fear ✠
Yeah. I open the KZread in my mind I said myself. Lets watch some Majorkill. And boom new video
A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great
Day 73 of asking for a dedicated series of videos detailing in depth the Lion El'Heresy
We need a video on ork vehicles.
Haven't even watched yet but it has my like already
Out of curiosity, is there some lore that explains how the best bromance of 40K (Barabas Dantioch & Alexis Polux) began? Perhaps that could be a video to consider making? Like. How did the two meet, how did they grow to like each other and how did Alexis Polux react to Barabas Dantioch’s death? What transpired between when Dantioch fought against his own legion at the start of the Horus Heresy to being at Pharos where he ultimately died?
YESSSSSSSSSS A TEMPLAR VIDEO!!!!
give the deathwatch a top place here. they have the highest presence of space marines in every sector, only accept veteran members and are backed up by the inquisition. they can rely on the experience and abilities of every chapter they acquired their members from. they dont need to look for new recruiting worlds since they can cherrypick from the whole galaxy or at least the sectors where their watchfortresses are. also: the greatest supply of all the different kinds of boltgun ammunition. quite tempting
THE GREY KNIGHTS... They don't exist - and if you say they do,I'll have to end your existence.
The excuse I heard was that the individual crusading fleets of the Black Templars are all registered as their own chapters that all just "happen to" have all the same doctrines kit and practices. Basically they just go as Black Templars I Black Templars 2 Black Templars 3 etc, and the imperium looks the other way on the more blatant violations of the codex because stuff like assembling in full force is actually pretty rare, similar to other larger groups of chapters forming coalition forces.
Genuinely good ad read
And I'm here thinking the grey knights can one shot any chapter...
@docuzi
18 күн бұрын
The Space Wolves would like them to try that
@nikolaismirnoff380
16 күн бұрын
furry spotted
@docuzi
16 күн бұрын
@@nikolaismirnoff380 I'm more of a Dark Angels guy, but at the Emperor's Gift book, the Chapter Master of the SW killed a GK Captain easily and stunned the rest. Really cool book too! Hyperion of the GK was awesome!
A cute girl was delivering my food thru ubet when i opened the door to grab it from her and he said "subscribe for more black content," and she clearly heard it and seemed uncomfortable. Thank you Majorkill
@AchromaZero
9 күн бұрын
BASED
Completely overlooking the Space Wolves. Memes aside, they also greatly exceed the Codex limit on chapter size. Especially since the primaris reinforcement.
My head canon is that black templars are whats left of the II or XI legions. That power to project some kind of psy field akin to waaagh (beast arises serioes hello) seems like a legion special ability.
The Black Templars were the first army I started collecting and play to this day, I love their lore and holy crusader vibe. With all that said I personally believe they are the true and most perfect representation of what Warhammer 40k is all about or at least a better representation of the Imperium than the Ultra Marines will ever be (big love for the boys in blue though) 10,000 men strong 10,000 years defying the codex 10,000 years without a single marine falling to chaos Exemplar, Black Templars, the loyal sons of Dorn
I like to believe that the closest thing to an actual Living Saint Sigismund is the Emperor's Champion, wich in some way, sound pretty real. After all, I highly doubt that the God-Emperor would just leave to the Warp the souls of such individuals like Sigismund, Garro, Rylanor, Pollux and maybe Cortés, among many others, hopefully, these lads one day will come back as Living Saints or something more, other than the Legion of the Damned Marines, wich sounds aweome with that one Flaming Ferrus Manus as their leader, but I think giving them a better spotlight is the correct choice.
Video on the howling if there enough info as sometimes 40k goes. "Oh yeah that thing killed a god and was made of dark.age technology the footnote ends there"
Other than the Grey Knights, Sigi's Black Templars is also a Space Marine Chapter even the Inquisition treads carefully around them. . . .R.I.P the Celestial Lions.
Abaddon wasn't really juiced up by Chaos then facing Sigismund, it wasn't until getting the Sword Drach'nyen that Abaddon got a huge power boost. Which he didn't have when facing Siggy. He was severely injured and in a healing tank for a month after getting ran through with the Black Sword. It was the Talon of Horus that cut down Sigismund. Abaddon beat Sigismund legit and the Black Legion crushed the Black Templars and nearly destroyed the Gloriana Class Eternal Crusader. But Abaddon called off the attack and honorably sent back Sigismunds body to the Imperium on the Eternal Crusader, along with the Black Sword that nearly killed him. Almost no other Traitor Legionnaire would've done that. It was a legit duel. Thats why the Black Legion and Black Templars are my favorite Space Marine chapter/legion.
i imagined that the black templars are so spread out enough that not even the chapter master is barely aware the exact number of his chapter. Are there any event that managed to call the entire Black templar chapter in a single theater of war?
When nurgle got burned by gulliman and it’s stated he struggles to sleep •how long do the sleep for •Why do gods sleep? Is nurgle weak atm and needs to sleep to gain power(like oden in the first Thor film that one time) and that’s why he’s so pissed at Morty •has the emporer ever slept or any of the other chaos gods?
I think it's tragic loss of opportunity that tabletop black templars don't have the keys abilities like being able to advance and charge, or not automatically just being able to re roll hits or something. Without oath of moment or some other boon
Video on the howling?
Watching as many MK videos while I drive to FLG Atlantic City Open. From newest to Oldest. Let’s go!!
Let's not forget they also have a Gloriana-class battleship and are known as the greatest naval combatants in the Imperium.
Hello Majorkill, Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
Best believe, I’m customizing my Marine into a Black Templar. Once the new Warhammer game drops
Okay someone Forrest me if I’m wrong but: Space wolves: aren’t they basically at legion strength instead of chapter strength? By ignoring the codex from the outset? Grey knights: could they beat the black Templars?
This is exactly why they are my first 40k army
I'd like to see a video of The Howling
The Black Templars also have perhaps the largest and most well led and competent void-fleets in the Imperium.
One now fallen chapter of space marines I think could stand a chance is the Astral Claws, since they outright ignored the Codex, built a mini empire and had a “guardsmen” regiment at their disposal.
So who do we think would win in an all-out war: 1) The whole chapter of the Black Templars. 2) Every other chapter´s Chapter Masters(Dante, Calgar, Tyberos, Moloc, etc...) all together.
It has been implied that the space wolf great companies treat themselves as chapters by the codex giving the wolves significant numbers
Aside of the Dark Angels, the Blood Angels might as well put up a good fight against the Black Templars - They have a bunch of successors, got some melee beast amongst them (hello Flesh Tearers) and got powerful psykers as well
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Mephiston alone gives them a great chance.