Hope everyone is well out there. Please excuse my grey face today, I'm just getting over a horrendous sinus/chest infection I've had for weeks. #kids That's the reason for the slow content too! Got some exciting projects humming along though, so stay tuned! Cheers, Cam

@daviddjerassi

11 ай бұрын

ok got the message take it easy old Guy haha looking forward to more of your honest no BS videos on frame sets wheels Etc when your fully recovered keep safe D.

@thatguy9051

11 ай бұрын

Don't waste time listening to the trolls....

@bknapp9728

11 ай бұрын

Speedy recovery!

Maltodextrin is only technically not a sugar. It gets labeled on food as whole carbohydrate, but for practical and nutritional purposes, is a sugar, and has a glycemic index similar to or slightly higher than sucrose according to most sources. Asserting that using maltodextrin allows for a drink mix to have less sugar is incredibly misleading from a nutritional perspective. That it is labeled whole carb is merely a happy convenience for food product producers selling to a sugar-weary public. Also, maltodextrin is reported to have lower acidogenicity (bacteria make acid that eat away at teeth) than sucrose alone (Rezende, 2018), but is equivalent to plain sugar when mixed with fructose sources like sucrose (Stegues, 2016), a mixture commonly found in Infinit and any other high quality drink mix.

@HUNHali

11 ай бұрын

Yeah these days basically all signs point to the direction of using simple table sugar with salt and optionally caffeine, flavouring and maybe other electrolytes. I'd say fuck drink mix companies, unless someone wants to go for absolute perfection in terms of glucose:fructose ratio, table sugar is perfectly fine and about a fifth the price of the cheapest drink mix.

@JPDCC

11 ай бұрын

Power aid powder, water and table sugar 👌🏽

@brianscarborough8642

10 ай бұрын

I would say no to sucrose. Sucrose if 50% glucose 50% fructose. All cells of the body metabolize glucose to create power; all complex carbohydrates are eventually broken down to glucose to provide fuel. Fructose, on the other hand, is not metabolized by the body, and is filtered out by the liver. High levels of fructose can lead to fatty liver problems. The problem with a sports drink with only or primarily glucose, is that to get high enough concentrations of glucose to provide adequate fuel, many people will have stomach and gut discomfort. This happens with plain old sucrose as well. (I have had issues with Gatorade for this reason.) Maltodextrin is used because it’s a longer chain sugar which is absorbed in the gut similarly to glucose, but because it is a long chain sugar, it can carry more caloric value without being such high levels as to cause gut discomfort. And then it breaks down into just glucose, so no difficulties with fructose.

@Yeastextract

10 ай бұрын

Sucrose had a 65 GI rating (medium) whereas Maltodextrin ranges from about 90-119 (high). Not sure where you’re getting your GI info from.

@skibmbp

7 ай бұрын

Not to mention a Gatorade mix is $14 us vs an equivalent sis mix quantity about $100. Look at the ingredients. Crazy!

Nice to have some confirmation. I've always ridden with Gatorade in my bottles. I use the powdered version because it's much more economical than buying bottles of it. 3/4 scoop in each large bottle and I'm out the door. I only drink water off the bike, so it's not an issue. Thanks for the video Cam.

That ended abruptly😔

After 30 years of using specific sports nutrition, I switched to sugar, water and a little cordial this year. Apart from cost saving, it's allowing me more calories in fluid amd in total with no gastro issues... carrying 80gms of sugar is easy to add to water etc. In back pocket.... give it a go if you haven't already and let us know what ypu think...

@ipodgolfer13

11 ай бұрын

I’ll have to look up cordial. Never heard of that.

@alaefarmestatesllc

11 ай бұрын

Durianrider dat u?

@loc9588

10 ай бұрын

@@ipodgolfer13cordial is just dilute juice

@susanpolsen5669

10 ай бұрын

​@ipodgolfer13 it's what we call a syrup mixed with water for flavouring, here in Australia.. predominantly marketed for the kids..

@susanpolsen5669

10 ай бұрын

​@@loc9588cordial has not an ounce of fruit goodness in it..lol..it's a sugar, addictive loaded syrup

Sugar is simply a 1:1 Glucose | Fructose combination. I’ve played with using maltodextrin (Basically Corn Syrup) and it’s popular as widely used in the food industry and not as sweet, but I found plain sugar was fine for me- and a lot cheaper than paying for fancy packaging and processing etc… After going down this rabbit hole before, honestly, plain table sugar and salt are just as good. 😊

@lukealsford7079

11 ай бұрын

3kg for $3, throw in an electrolyte tab. Spend the $$$$$$$$ you save on an electric toothbrush 🤙🤙

@ekreek

11 ай бұрын

This, maltodextrin might be a little better for your teeth but not a lot.

@MTBScotland

11 ай бұрын

issue with sugar is the sweetness. Maltodextrin is only moderately sweet.

@tomigun750

11 ай бұрын

@@lukealsford7079even “electrolyte tabs” are a waste of money (in my opinion) you’re never going to actually sweat out enough magnesium or potassium to justify the $$$ - Sodium? Yes. But this can be simply achieved with 1/4teaspoon of salt Or you can calculate required sodium and measure salt respectively, or use sodium citrate to reduce “salty taste”

@markusseppala6547

11 ай бұрын

Same, I went from malto+fructose to malto+sugar to just pure sugar. I don't mind the sweetness, it's close enough to optimal ratio and it's cheap.

I'm finding that carb recovery with Cooper's Sparkling is doing me wonders, but it is challenging my BMI

I agree with everything except the part about maltodextrin. It's a chain of glucose units, so while it does not taste sweet as glucose it still has about the same effect on teeth. In any case I wouldn't worry too much about it if you have good oral hygiene otherwise.

@Scheinregen

11 ай бұрын

Is there a source for this? Some people think it's better for their teeth, others say it makes no difference, but I haven't read anything specific.

@selladore

11 ай бұрын

@@Scheinregen there are very few studies out there but as of now it's probably about the same or a little bit better than as glucose when it comes to teeth health...

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

​@selladore so in other words, you have no evidence if you can't link any definitive studies.

@michaellane1316

10 ай бұрын

Or no teeth like me, why worry about it. Folks get so wound up about the ocd effect. Drink a combo then rinse. It's not like this stays in the mouth for a long time. What one should be thinking more about is the actual need of whatever your is requiring for energy at the time. Folks put too much inro thinking they'll live a long and properous life and worry about how they smile.

@skibmbp

7 ай бұрын

After your ride brush your teeth no matter what direction you decide would be the best idea! If you go sugar you can take the $’s you save and make an extra trip to the dentist…or if you ride a lot buy a new bike with it…LOL

I’m a fan of Scratch. Basically just flavored sugar. But I like the flavor, so I drink it while riding. Easy. I will usually ride with a sugar drink and plain water to provide something to rinse with after a gel or bar if it all just gets too sweet. No wrong answers if it avoids the bonk

Love it no BS just hard facts thanks RCA & Steph X, Cam lets know how your distance rides improved ok Mate.

Great myth busting video Cam. I've just been using raw sugar with a scoop of Staminade for flavour and salt for a cheap, high carb mix 👍

I am little confused. Did you get more energy with the Powerade or ketones or both? Thanks for the video, however did you have a blood test to see if you health is better. Maybe you train more, therefore you are stronger on the bike. Is this a short term gain or do you believe you are getting healthier mixing carbs for the long term?

I used to use Tang religiously on the bike as a Type 1 Diabetic just to keep my blood sugar high enough to function. I got away from it, and I honestly don't remember why. It may be time to look at using it again.

Maltodextrin is so much less sweet than table sugar. In the past couple of weeks i went from malto & sugar mix to just malto. The sickening sweetness is gone, it's a relief. I pay 1 eur per kilo for sugar and 2.6 eur per kilo for maltodextrin. I add citric acid and electrolytes.

Great info! Ty

I use high 5 powder cause it's cheap and add some extra fructose to make it a 1:0.8 like beta fue. The bacteria in your mouth will still metabolise polymers of glucose as effectively as monomers. Any sugars you take regularly in that form isn't good for your teeth. benefit of long chain polysaccharides is that they tend not to be sweet like glucose/sucrose but also don't have much of a taste.

I use Accelerade (4:1 ratio carbohydrates/protein) diluted 2 times (1/2 scoop compared to 1 scoop) what they recommend. Find it tasty and good source of energy.

I was a dietitian in the ICU for years before leaving the field. Sports RDs are legit. So smart. I could do tube feeds and TPNs all day but man my brain did not compute for sports nutrition.

internet says that maltodextrin (you mentioned has lower sugar content, ok) has higher glycemic index (is it BAD?) than table sugar. so why maltodextrin is better than sugar in your drink ?

did a tough sportive last weekend and must have been one of my best use of nutrition - probably over 80g carb and hour for close to six hours. (SIS Beta and Styrkr) After watching so many videos about what to take in , i know thats effective, but i've always wondered what happens if you take in more than the body can absorb, is it wasted or does it get absorbed over a longer time....

@Eirikkinserdal

11 ай бұрын

It fills up the muscle glycogen after you are done. Aid in recovery

@pierrex3226

11 ай бұрын

Typically if you eat more than you can absorb your stomach shuts down, you shit yourself and all sorts of wonderful side effects :)

What has happened to the fat adapted and anti carb crew? Are they all still scared of bread legs? or fueling to be able to do 300 watts for 5 hrs?

idk what the deal is, but any time i’ve tried to rely on gatorade/powerade, the cramps are unbelievably worse. Nuun tablets + variable amounts of table sugar work much better for me.

I have a question: so I'll admit my bike fit isn't perfect but it's pretty good. The problem is, when I ride hard say for instance up a climb and get my heartrate above about 185 almost to where I can barely keep riding, my arms and sorta chest get tingly. It's not so much my legs. Some days I can get my HR to 200 no problem and others at the same weekly intensity, barely over 180. Today I absolutely bonked during a moderate 4 hour ride although it was humid it was pretty cool weather, but when I got back I could tell my whole body was a bit tingly. Any ideas why this would be or do I just need to train more? I had 3 or 4 days off before the ride but thought the fitness would carry thru. Been riding all summer, I can do 250 watts all day. Are my sprinting days over?

@nationsnumber1chump

11 ай бұрын

Also I drank a whole gallon of calcium added orange juice during the week and wonder if that had something to do with it too 🤷‍♂️

Steph working with Cam reminds me of like a hot young Gandalf tending to the hobbits.

After a lot of trial and error with many products, I have had very good overall results with Crank Sports e-Fuel and e-Gels.

Is maltodextrin any better for your teeth than sucrose? I wouldn't think so...

You don't have to buy anything, just make your own, it's so simple. Juice, salt, sugar, and water.

@tomigun750

11 ай бұрын

Squirt of lemon juice 👌

Does the VB come after the 5 powerades and netflix or is it one VB per powerade?

@CamNicholls

11 ай бұрын

hahaha

I'm confused. Why is a mixture of maltodextrin, dextrose and fructose better for your teeth than Sugar?

@PhilandErika

11 ай бұрын

Bacteria consume glucose. Those other sugars need to be processed either in the gut or in the liver before they can be used by bacteria.

can anbody explain to me why most endurance products don't contain cluster-dextrin?

@bretprins4792

11 ай бұрын

Short answer is it's 2-3 times more expensive that maltodextrin. And can have a slightly slower release of energy. Either one is fine, the more important part is which one you feel causes less GI issues.

@streighty

10 ай бұрын

@@bretprins4792I find cluster dextrin is much easier on my GI. I had issues with maltodextrin and never have with cluster dextrin and it flat out works as a great energy source.

Before watching video, half the benefit of these drinks is in the taste. Mentally you think your fuelling. But like drinking water when getting cramps. Most long rides you need little carbs often. Only on harder rides to do you need lots quickly. This will be interesting. Keytones are so expensive. Unhealthy, bike racing isn’t healthy. Supersapians taught me so much. Sugary drinks are always an issue but if you drink a bottle over an hour it’s not so much an issue than if you drank it in 5 min.I will ignore the dental hygiene as most water bottles do a good job of bypassing your teeth, and I’m not swirling the drink around in my mouth. I always brush after a ride due to gels. I don’t actually have any carbs in my drinks. I have at least 92 gram of carbs an hour while riding hard. Zone 2 barely needs any unless you are doing hours of.

I totally use Powerade. I also add sugar to my Powerade so i dont end up needing to have gels or bars so much out on my rides

Can't be worse than Red Bull...

@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib

11 ай бұрын

If you have undiagnosed (or diagnosed) heart problems, it can be. Excess potassium can lead to cardiac arrest. It can also lead to hbp if you have undiagnosed kidney problems. Not uncommon when regularly pushing the limits or if you've received the clot shot.

@XxxxTxTxxxX

11 ай бұрын

@@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib No it can't be, not even close lol. Too many people who think they are experts talking out of their asses

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

​@@FirstnameLastname-pe5ibthere is not nearly enough potassium in them to do jack diddly.

Hi Cam! Having watched your bike build videos and as I'm your height and considering building a new bike, could you tell your inseam?

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

Just because you're the same height does not mean your inseam will be the same. Infact, it is almost certain that it will not.

@xVertOx

10 ай бұрын

@@roadcyclist1 Yes, that's exactly why I'm asking for his inseam, as height doesn't tell you much.

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

@@xVertOx do you honestly think the youtuber is going to answer you? Lol....

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

@@xVertOx why are you asking for his inseam then??? You are building a bike for you, not him!

Costco natural lemonade & plain white sugar …. Works very well

I just use energade concentrate sugar and water in my bottles. Cheap and effective.

Have you tried Scratch Lab products?

@CamNicholls

11 ай бұрын

No, I'll take a look though. Cheers.

Anyone here who thinks fueling with sugars for long bouts of endurance activity is unhealthy is completly out of touch scientifically. You need fuel to perform at your higgest level, and by consuming these extra calories you in turn burn more calories then you would have if you hadnt fueled at all, at the same time recovering faster.

@marc_aussie

11 ай бұрын

It’s ridiculous. If you look at all the things people do in their lives- drinking alcohol, saturated fats in meats, processed foods, high stress, it’s not the sugar during exercise that’s going to kill them first.

Gatorades the only drink that gives me the stitch. Never could figure that out

Maltodextrin and Fructose powder for me and set your own ratios

Unbelievably old news, Cam. Rules of thumb: 1 hour session => carbs during training not neccessary - fill up carbs b4 session like she says. Stock up on protein after session to repair/build muscle mass. +1 hour sessions => mix of carbs: -ultra fast carbs in bottle for instant replenish (2 bottles: 1 with water) --- medium fast gels for a timed energy boost .... keeping your energy level in peak fitness condition to avoid output level tanking - slow carbs: snacks/bars/cake etc. to keep your digestion going while performing. Learned this the hard way ;-P 2L Camelbak with carb.mix on my back, 2 bottles of water on the bike plus gels/snacks/bars usually get me through most crits/GF's between 60 and 80 miles without refueling 🙂

@jenspetersimonsen4235

11 ай бұрын

Another rule of thumb: During intense exercise man burns through approx. 1000 kalories per hour - which is why you need to bring supplies on longer sessions to avoid 'going bonk' ;-)

I'm fat and unfit but still love to ride. I would typically be knocking out over 1000 calories an hour when riding and going through who knows how much in the way of perspiration. Year ago I changed from 2 bottles of water for a ride to 1 of electrolyte mix and 1 of water and the difference it made to how I felt afterwards was incredible. IF I am going for an hour to an hour and a half ride in 35-40C heat I will sometimes change to either 2 of refrigerated electrolyte mixes or 1 refrigerated and 1 half frozen. Last summer I changed to insulated bottles and it's actually a pleasant change an hour into a ride drinking cold water rather than body temperature.

@user-qy8ph8tf3d

11 ай бұрын

1000 kcal per hour requires about 300 Watts of constant pressure on a pedal. Your tracker (Strava or wtv app you are using) vastly overestimates it, dividing the estimation by two will be beneficial if you are trying to track those callories.

@pierrex3226

11 ай бұрын

Yeah it's unlikely you burn 1000 cal / hour. 700 yes. 1000 sounds unlikely.

@alaefarmestatesllc

11 ай бұрын

Depends how “fat” and big he is. The bigger u are, the more calories u burn just being alive. Add in workouts and a big person can punish some calories

@Alan_Hans__

11 ай бұрын

I'm fat enough. Punch in some numbers into some calculators. 1hr of 120kg and 25kmh or 120kg and 160bpm heartrate. Doing a duathlon about 10 years ago and around 100kg and 45yo I averaged 180bpm for 75 minutes over 20km ride and 5km jog.

@pierrex3226

11 ай бұрын

@@Alan_Hans__ interesting. Didn't realize that just being big / fat increased caloric burn so much. I thought power was power, and that to a large extent, producing a watt required x energy. Creating a caloric deficit should be fairly easy then, don't eat garbage and do two hours of zone 2 per day and you should melt? Once you're trained enough, you don't accumulate much fatigue from zone 2, but producing watts always burns energy? Smart trainers and swift make it quite pleasant to do volume, if weather doesn't allow to go outside

I like to mix in a little honey and maple syrup as well SON

I just mix 40-50g of white sugar into my bottles with some fruit squash! Cheap as chips!

Nothing like a white bread jam sandwich on an endurance ride to keep you going. Just brush your teeth in the recovery phase.

@roadcyclist1

10 ай бұрын

Your teeth are not going to instantly rot from some jelly..lol. if you consume jelly daily without brushing for 7 days in a row you might start to slightly affect your enamel.

But it's got electrolyteth

Need over 100 Cap to fix the level broken.

Ignore the trolls mate. Most viewers only skim the comments, and the trolls are rarely visible unless you go digging. So to most of us they are rightly getting ignored.

Gatorade and Powerade are good enough for me. They taste great too. Just drink some plain water afterwards and swish it around in your mouth.

Hang on, Cam, you ARE sititng on the couch smashing 5 bottles of Powerade and watching Netflix

"Sports drinks do their jobs" Translation Gatorade etc isn't garbage.

Sugar won't rott you teeth its Ph neutral, food acid and carbonic acid do !

Don’t waste your money Table sugar works a treat

Nice ad

Why bother? Honestly. Your in your 40’s bro. What the heck do you get out of wrecking your body with crap? You ain’t going on the world tour anytime soon. Just train and be healthy broooooooo ❤

@Penalist

11 ай бұрын

He likes doing it. You can’t tell a grown man not to do what he likes if this thing is not harmful to him.

@ralphmartinez8616

11 ай бұрын

@@Penalist no I get that. But he’s drinking complete garbage for what amounts to marginal gains. It’s hilarious because i was the same way at one time. Just wish more people pointed it out to me earlier

@LR6092

11 ай бұрын

Why bother fueling your body for activity? If your excersizing enough you can eat whatever sweets you want and not have to worry about any weight gain or I'll effects, your muscles utilize it way to fast.

Dates

old school, honey and water

Nah

@0:02 I didn't realise you were that small. You are like - 4ft

@CamNicholls

10 ай бұрын

Haha I am 179cm. Wide angle lens and Steph is probably 2inch taller. I also had shoes off which makes it worse.

I used to be anti-carbs but after needing to fuel on a 6-hour ride a few years back I reliest that I had been doing something wrong and started fueling on my rides, I now always try to take more fuel with me than I need even on a two hour ride, carbs aren't the enemy it's how you use them ;) p.s. Mountain Dew is the best petrolstation drink you guys buy ;)

Still better than Prime lol

Rubish? No. Suboptimal? Certainly. I prefer a banana, fresh squeezed mixed citrus in the water bottle w/ a pinch of sea salt. No processed sugars, derivatives, oils or food colorings. A cap of magnesium if I felt cramps recently.

@facingup1624

11 ай бұрын

It simply is optimal. Eating takes more time to do, and requires more processing from your body. Sugar in water can go nearly straight to the muscles. And go watch some videos on the electrolyte myth.

@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib

11 ай бұрын

@@facingup1624 Wrong. And there is no myth. Electrolytes are needed for muscle function including your heart. Idk how you fell for such crazy disinfo but im gonna have to call it for what it is.

@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib

11 ай бұрын

@@facingup1624 Also you don't have to eat whole foods to get electrolytes into your cells. Idk where you got that assumption from. That's literally what Gatorade does.

@ralphmartinez8616

11 ай бұрын

Nah

Well, infections and inflammation are sugar related..... Our bodies are not build for consuming sugar every day. I know that, because i messed my body completely up over the time with that Carb-loading stuff. Have a look at your brilliant group "low carb down under". Greetings

@CamNicholls

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing on the thread. Any agree with you re inflammation, although I am no expert! What I found from 'strategic fuelling' was that it became my sweet fix. Meaning I no longer had the 'dessert' in the evening, so it kinda ruled itself out and possibly happened at the better part of the day. No doubt it I kept that up it would have been too much sugar/inflammation!

😂 super unhealthy stuff

Yes, they’re rubbish. Drink coconut water, your body will thank you and your strava times will trend faster.