Are PCIe 4.0 SSDs worth it? SATA vs PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0

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00:00 - Intro
01:00 - Types of SSDs
01:53 - Pros and Cons of Each Drive
03:38 - Drives Tested and Test Bench
04:13 - Crystal Disk Mark 8
04:34 - Windows 10 Boot Up Test
05:19 - FF14 Load Test
05:52 - GTA 5 Load Test
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10:08 - DRAM Discussion
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  • @redslate
    @redslate2 жыл бұрын

    Price premium aside, 2.5" (SATA) SSDs are an excellent replacement for legacy HDDs.

  • @Serge08
    @Serge083 жыл бұрын

    Nicely explained! Also super useful the real-world tests, thanks :)

  • @v_token1377
    @v_token13772 жыл бұрын

    Every question I had about storage expansion like which should I buy and why was answered. I appreciate you showing some real worlds test like large data transfers, gaming boot up and load times.

  • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
    @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the catch up, my PC is years behind but with the basic SSD back then it still fit my need even today.

  • @hansdailyfashion
    @hansdailyfashion6 ай бұрын

    Best comparison video I've seen so far! Thanks for this! 🙌🏻🖤

  • @_ctpaxop
    @_ctpaxop3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, man. Kudos for the list 👍

  • @joshfoelber8587
    @joshfoelber85873 жыл бұрын

    Bro, you seriously make THEE BEST, clearest, and most useful/informative cpu tech videos, and I watch most all the major channels. I get more useful information from your videos than any others. You should have a million subs or more. Super underrated. I hope your channel grows leaps and bounds.

  • @gabrielbeane300
    @gabrielbeane3002 жыл бұрын

    This video is literally exactly what I needed thanks.

  • @richteritwan
    @richteritwan5 ай бұрын

    Excellent layperson explanation, especially regarding DRAM cache.

  • @FyrHawk143
    @FyrHawk1432 жыл бұрын

    Great informational video! I agree Gen 3 m.2 seems to be the sweet spot for price/performance.

  • @bonson5395
    @bonson53953 жыл бұрын

    hey danny, could you please do a build tutorial in the phanteks p200a with the same configuration you used in the previous build. If you could it would be really helpful.

  • @NaganathanSandramohan
    @NaganathanSandramohan10 ай бұрын

    Very useful informatiom. Good real comparison. Thank you

  • @llKaiserx0ll
    @llKaiserx0ll Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great video.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX173 жыл бұрын

    Good video. A couple other things to consider: If the drive is QLC, TLC, MLC, or SLC; quadruple, triple, multi [2], or single layer cell. SLCs are going to stay fast and have higher reliability. The more layers per cell, the slower the drive will get as it fills -- like the Inland you pointed out being slower at 2/3 full. I'd say SLC, MLC, or TLC is best for an OS drive -- TLC is a good balance of price, performance, and reliability. QLC is best for large capacity storage that doesn't need extreme performance. As for HDDs -- I'd say they do indeed still have a place in modern PCs, depending on your use case. They can still be higher capacities for less money; you can get a 16TB HDD for $500, vs. an 8TB SATA SSD for ~$850. If you just need SPACE, they're perfectly fine. Where they really fail: OS long-term use. Aside from being significantly slower to load with a fresh OS, it gets way worse way fast, especially with more recent builds of Windows -- as the OS updates and you download things and modify files, things become fragmented, and some things such as certain OS files can't be relocated; this increases load times and slows everything down, which isn't a problem with an SSD. If you don't have at least a SATA SSD for your boot drive, you're gonna hate your computer -- even if you have a crazy system like a 5950X and a 3090 and 128GB of RAM, it just will slow everything down. Windows is much heavier on storage than it used to be. But if you're building a gaming machine and want to save, a 240GB SATA SSD boot drive and a 1TB HDD isn't a terrible idea... Personally I'm all SSD in my main workstations, one with both PCIe and SATA M.2, the other all PCIe, but both with PCIe are 3.0 -- going to be building a new system with a PCIe 4.0 SSD in the next week or two. My servers are primarily HDD based, with PCIe SSDs for cache

  • @uncrunch398

    @uncrunch398

    Жыл бұрын

    AFAIK, SLC isn't made any more. Maybe not MLC either. SLC is simulated for faster writes. As the drive fills, eventually SLC mode cells are converted to their normal state. If your physical space and electricity budget are tight, SSDs are a superior investment to HDDs. Also less susceptible to vibrations while not making them. No audible noise either. You can get away with not having a multitude of fans, which each use power (an individual 1u fan can use >80 watts) and make noise, blowing over them as they don't generate enough heat but by sustained writes which are extremely difficult if not running a writing benchmark for a long period.

  • @Razor-gx2dq
    @Razor-gx2dq3 жыл бұрын

    Currently rocking a XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro. I am very happy with its performance.

  • @Shado09246
    @Shado092463 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video. Thanks

  • @ronyzmiri
    @ronyzmiri3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks mate!

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it!

  • @CM-ef8fu
    @CM-ef8fu Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot!

  • @Defiant031636
    @Defiant0316363 жыл бұрын

    Very good real world tests and explanations, was about to comment on the whole DRAM thing until you addressed it at the end! I believe most rigs should start off with something like a 1TB SSD (or 512GB SSD for budget), and add more SSD space later. Don't see a reason to purchase hard drives anymore for almost everyone unless they are for large capacity storage.

  • @louiesatterwhite3885

    @louiesatterwhite3885

    Жыл бұрын

    I purchased 12 tb of hdd storage on black Friday for $150. That much ssd storage would be over $1000.

  • @uncrunch398

    @uncrunch398

    Жыл бұрын

    @@louiesatterwhite3885 Some peg average lifespan of an HDD at four years. Some less than three, but basically running a backup service over the internet. Make sure everything you care about losing is always on at least three storage devices. An SSD can also have a short life, but lacking certain manufacturing or firmware defects could last longer than a typical human life expectancy. People born next century will probably see samples of every generation of SSD ever made still usable if not in use. I wonder if there are centers deliberately running them, not into the ground, just normal operations, to prove this point. Oldest gens would be for industrial machines' controllers that almost never write to them. Those might still be around. Likely some capacitor will pop now and then and the rest will run like new if that's replaced.

  • @CesarPeron
    @CesarPeron2 жыл бұрын

    The best video that I have seen, thanks for the effort I have a Kingston NV1 SNVS / 1000G, on a notebook (i7 7600u) and my transfer rates are 1700 (R) / 1500 (W)

  • @bcal5962
    @bcal59622 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Really interesting

  • @serbza
    @serbza2 жыл бұрын

    Is an pcie 3.0 with dram better and faster than pcie 4.0 with no dram? Thanks!

  • @luckyowl10
    @luckyowl102 жыл бұрын

    It's worth it to upgrade an entry level dramless nvme SSD (2200/1100 read/write 80k/120k iops) to an top of the range dram gen 3 ssd like 3500/3000 read/write 450k+ iops?

  • @VaydaladaVodalada
    @VaydaladaVodalada2 жыл бұрын

    Your link for the Amazon Performance Plus is only for the Performance one.

  • @VHflyboy
    @VHflyboy2 жыл бұрын

    Actually a helpful video. I'm looking for a 2nd nvme drive on my b550 motherboard (2nd nvme capped at 3.0) and it looks like the 3.0 nvme is the best value for me.

  • @keokio7
    @keokio72 жыл бұрын

    excellent real world tests, i was planning on spending the extra cash for a nvme 4.0 but looking at your tests, it's like a 1 sec difference, with the exception of the 200+gb file transfer. But i don't really do big file size transfers like that, so might as well save the cash and have bascially no performance different with a gen 3.0 nvme. Thanks

  • @kazishakibbinrahim172
    @kazishakibbinrahim1723 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done 👍

  • @necrowolfgaming2494
    @necrowolfgaming24943 жыл бұрын

    A WD Black mechanical would read about twice as fast as that mechanical there. Still, not SSD speeds but I got one anyways for that reason since I needed a huge secondary drive.

  • @Aaron_Lesse
    @Aaron_Lesse Жыл бұрын

    This information was helpful for what I am looking to do with my PC. Tech Notice has some great videos on how creators can use 4 separate drives to optimize video production workflow-which includes the use of HDD for archival purposes, along with an M.2 PCIe 3.0 drive for OS, a 3.0 or 4.0 M.2 for cache/temp files, and a 4.0 M.2 drive for active project files. To this, I'll add that 2.5-inch SATA SSD looks useful for game files, especially on a PC that is used for both production and gaming, where the M.2 slots can be best used for production purposes. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Aaron_Lesse

    @Aaron_Lesse

    Жыл бұрын

    It might also work to use the 2.5-inch SATA SSD for the OS if M.2 slots are limited on the motherboard. However, I recently learned that the Adobe Creative Cloud "hub" software that manages all the Adobe programs can only be installed on the drive with the OS. So while it is possible to install the Adobe programs like InDesign, Illustrator, Premiere Pro and the others on drives of your own choosing, I do not know if performance of these programs will be affected by the Adobe CC program on a 2.5-inch SATA drive, other than for updates and possibly loading in Adobe fonts and transferring files to and from the Adobe Cloud (including Adobe library assets). For this reason, I'd probably want to go with M.2 for OS, even if it is a gen 3 slot or a gen 3 add-on card.

  • @TeamGB-Diving
    @TeamGB-Diving10 ай бұрын

    I currently have a PCIE4 nvme and a 2.5" sata drive in my system. The 2.5" drive has my games on it, I did this after watching a video on LTT about how a pcie storage drive can impact your system. I have only recently built my first gaming rig and to be honest I am really enjoying it. I am a casual gamer so FPS and wether it 1080p, 1440p, or 4K I am not really bothered about it. But definitely think its better and quicker than the Xbox Series X. Great informative video.

  • @digigil4597
    @digigil4597 Жыл бұрын

    Good instructional video👍, complete! Curious about multi. M2 pic-e SSD port connector, write speeds, load transfer, use speed, gaming, plus maybe 3dsmax? I know it's an old program... Experience job!!!

  • @jan-eriksandli6221
    @jan-eriksandli6221 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, can I use a gen4 m.2 in a gen 3 slot?.

  • @TheUniverseIsinspiring
    @TheUniverseIsinspiring3 жыл бұрын

    I have Dell PowerEdge R740 and want to upgrade storage but unable to find perfect ssd nvme m.2 pcie 3. x16 can some recommend me ,Thanks

  • @julymojica2651
    @julymojica26515 ай бұрын

    Hi NOAB! I just have a quick question, Should I get a sata SSD Dramless 1TB or a DramSSD but only 500gb same price, brands are PNY and Crucial NOTE: will only be used as game drive. Thank you so much! more power to you, enjoyed the lan party vids BTW.

  • @techsalesprophet
    @techsalesprophet2 жыл бұрын

    very helpful vidoe thanks

  • @Rico1Z
    @Rico1Z3 жыл бұрын

    Could I get some help, my motherboard is displaying error code “d9”. I check and test the hard drive everything looks ok. I also checked all the cables and they are all plugged in. Does anyone know what it could be. Motherboard Rog Strix x570-E Gaming. Hard Drive Inland 1TB SSD Gen 4.0 PCIe NVMe 4 x4 M.2 2280.

  • @TheGameBench
    @TheGameBench3 жыл бұрын

    And man... buy them right now! Thanks to Chia they're probably going to be hard to come buy at MSRP pretty soon.

  • @stonalisa3729

    @stonalisa3729

    3 жыл бұрын

    They’re even using hard drives now

  • @TheGameBench

    @TheGameBench

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Speed doesn't matter so they'll go for anything. And with boards with like 30 SATA ports, I imagine all storage is going to skyrocket.

  • @auntiepha8343

    @auntiepha8343

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a few extra M.2 and Sata drives on sale this week just in case! LOL

  • @TheGameBench

    @TheGameBench

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@auntiepha8343 Same here. Buying some SSDs and hard drives right now for builds. Would be stupid if GPU prices dropped but I couldn't complete builds because now I can't get storage.

  • @auntiepha8343

    @auntiepha8343

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheGameBench Exactly!! LOL good luck!!

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson97983 жыл бұрын

    I use Gen 3x4 M.2 for boot drives and SATA SSD for game drives & short/medium term back-ups and large capacity HDD storage for all long back ups, both system, games & videos etc

  • @itsneight1260
    @itsneight12603 жыл бұрын

    For me... I'm not quite sure whether I LOVE fast storage or if I just HATE slow storage. But faster storage is one of the first things I look at when building a system. I will sacrifice rgb, brand, sometimes even a little performance on other parts to get good storage. Luckily for me I got a great deal ($150) on a Samsung 980 Pro 1TB nvme pcie 4 drive recently so I should be good to go for a while. (Cost me roughly $20-30 more than other brands Gen 3 drives out there so it was a no brainer.) Now if I could just find time to install it and figure out how to clone from m.2 to m.2 drive.

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clone from old m.2 drive to any spare sata drive you have. Then clone from that sata drive to new m.2 drive. Problem solved :)

  • @christophertarasenko7597
    @christophertarasenko75973 жыл бұрын

    does the ssd space go down just curious

  • @davidjames4583
    @davidjames45833 жыл бұрын

    awesome review !!! I have (1) Nvme M.2 (2) internal Sata SSD's and (2) Conventional HDD's.... 😎

  • @PinkyTech
    @PinkyTech3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Gen 3 M.2 PCIE drives as well. Not only is it a cleaner look, but the price difference between the 2.5” SSDs and the PCIE Gen 3 is getting very small so it is worth the few extra dollars in my opinion. Good video!

  • @MegaOS_Ver_NEET

    @MegaOS_Ver_NEET

    3 жыл бұрын

    there's some sata SSD that uses the m.2 form factor but uses a different key. although when i looked at their capacities, they're rarely hit 1tb size.

  • @PinkyTech

    @PinkyTech

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MegaOS_Ver_NEET Yep. They run at sata speeds, but still a nice clean build. I have been seeing them less now though because the price difference between that and the faster PCIE has closed significantly.

  • @MegaOS_Ver_NEET

    @MegaOS_Ver_NEET

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PinkyTech so true.

  • @JDFloyd
    @JDFloyd2 ай бұрын

    All of my external NVME enclosures, plus the 1x OWC 4M2 PCI card (RAID0)I have, have the Inland PCi 3.0 2tb drives in them. I do not need insane speeds, and even being a "generic" branded drive, they perform excellently. I also have 1x 4tb Inland 2.5" SATA SSD, and it has no performance issues. My use case is photography, and my need is faster than HDD storage volume generally, with the exception of the occasional large multi-gig layered panoramic image in Photoshop.

  • @ghstminionbuddy
    @ghstminionbuddy3 жыл бұрын

    I been looking into a ssd but idk which one to get I play wow and d3.. so far I have added 8gigs ddr3 a 1050 ti SC but I would like to replace my hdd but I don't know much on to replace that.. my pc was cyberpowerpc was brought from bestbuy 2 years ago I have slowly upgraded. The last 2 items I can improve is fx 6300 am3+ and the hdd. All now my motherboard is sata only.

  • @7evive

    @7evive

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sincerely stop putting $ in your PC and try to flip it a buy a new one with a decent mobo. You need ddr4 and a better cpu before you throw money into an ssd

  • @riskygadget4life
    @riskygadget4life3 жыл бұрын

    hi danny hope everything is well

  • @Joeker8171
    @Joeker81713 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely pick Gen 3. I have two SSD 1tb and 240(boot drive) sata SSD's i want a M.2 but, can't afford it right now. I want a 2tb one

  • @maxwellboop
    @maxwellboop2 жыл бұрын

    So the best ones to get for Normal use is the gen 3 SSD and the sata SSD

  • @ThisGalaxyCat
    @ThisGalaxyCat3 жыл бұрын

    will you review some laptop

  • @Reaperdeathsoul
    @Reaperdeathsoul3 жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry to ask this, but when is the next LAN party, and can you please play WOW and post a video cause o would like to see some game play of that

  • @Sim-po1mc
    @Sim-po1mc3 жыл бұрын

    ive got the 860 evo samsung m.2 sata and its fast as fuck, i feel a lot difrence when starting up the pc and entering server on Rust and Fivem

  • @huaky24
    @huaky243 жыл бұрын

    glad i got all the core parts of my system before the great shortage of 2020-21

  • @dalekslookgood
    @dalekslookgood9 ай бұрын

    thnx danny. i thought about replacing my gen 3 pcie m.2 system drive ssd (samsung) with a gen 4 m.2 ssd. but i won't now after seeing this video, the difference is just not worth it at the moment for me (relating to the price) , as my gen 3 ssd's (i have 2) are still viable/not end of life yet. my system (MoBo) supports gen4 pcie on my m.2 slot(s).

  • @AlloVera2
    @AlloVera22 жыл бұрын

    How do you take off the heatsink off of the gen 4 ssd

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pull the tabs aside until it clears and the pull apart

  • @ezequiel_franco
    @ezequiel_franco2 жыл бұрын

    Te felicito por el contenido Gracias

  • @Popo-hr6gc
    @Popo-hr6gc3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Danny, this is unrelated but do you know where Joey is? o.o

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon83202 жыл бұрын

    Currently the drive I use for my pc need's is a Samsung 1tb 970 Evo NVME.

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk3 жыл бұрын

    I am transitioning my computers to 2tb M.2 drives. Lots of storage and speed and no cables. Clean, easy & fast.

  • @auntiepha8343

    @auntiepha8343

    3 жыл бұрын

    Have you seen the ASUS Hyper m.2 PCI card? It holds four M.2 drives and has a built-in cooling fan.

  • @nickg505
    @nickg505 Жыл бұрын

    Resurrecting an old dinosaur w/ a sweet z68 MB with an i7 2600K. New case, new AIO, and cool fans. Turned out VERY nice. From what I read, I can't use a nvme w/adapter as a boot. But other than the write speed, which does suck, I can rock this system another year/2 and then use the new equip on new system. Surfing YT, it's funny reading comments that many people still can game on systems as old as mine. Can't wait to finish this rig

  • @rabbitplay1023
    @rabbitplay10233 жыл бұрын

    hey,i dont rrly watch u ngl but i watch joey delgago,he hasn't posted in a while and was wondering if he was ok

  • @BruBoyz
    @BruBoyz2 жыл бұрын

    Can you test which one is best for the steam deck??

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    2 жыл бұрын

    From what I've read you can't easily swap the SSD on the steam deck, and even if so, it's not advised

  • @0nearmedbandit
    @0nearmedbandit3 жыл бұрын

    2:00 While this is all true I honestly prefer 2.5" HDDs.. So the "bulky size" is not a problem for me. I have 2x M.2 Gen 3 drives, 1x 2.5" SSD, and 1x 2.5" HDD for my bulk storage

  • @syg9793
    @syg97933 жыл бұрын

    Hey do you know any cheap pcs out there I need one for school buy my parents can't afford I sent you a email buy you didn't answer

  • @ocaenman
    @ocaenman3 жыл бұрын

    i learn alot from this channel 😙

  • @Woppettier

    @Woppettier

    3 жыл бұрын

    😙

  • @ocaenman

    @ocaenman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Woppettier 😙

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad to help!

  • @johnpaulbacon8320
    @johnpaulbacon83202 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I am curious as to why you didn't use 2.5" hdd's instead of the 3.5' hdd's ; the 2.5' hdd's would most likely be slightly faster then the 3.5' drives. There are hdd's that have an rpm of 10k. So we have the 5,400 rpm - 7,200 rpm - 10k rpm drives. The 10k rpm hdd's are less common and generally more costly. I would like to see a 2.5" 7,200 rpm hdd tested and it's results shown in a follow up video.

  • @johnybravoooooo
    @johnybravoooooo3 жыл бұрын

    Where's Joey Man?🥺 Is he okay? I hope he's okay

  • @RayLewisGM
    @RayLewisGM3 жыл бұрын

    Look at them arms son! I have a Gen4 and a Gen3 NvMe m.2 and I think if your board supports two m.2 drives, that's the way to go. No extra wires.

  • @billb0313

    @billb0313

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed but drives fill up quickly. I have one NVME and two SSDs (all 1TB.) I can add another NVME to the MB and 4 more SSDs. I will be intalling 2TB drives from now on.

  • @tacify4244
    @tacify42443 жыл бұрын

    8:47 if it relies on CPU, GPU and RAM then why did you do it? just a way to extend the video over 10 minutes?

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    To debunk those who think having a fast SSD makes a huge difference and show proof with the footage. Also, fyi, the target length for midrolls on KZread is now 8 minutes, not 10 minutes, so I would have hit that with or without the section.

  • @tacify4244

    @tacify4244

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nerdonabudget lol, alr. Thanks for letting me know!

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tacify4244 👌

  • @thomaszhu2277
    @thomaszhu22773 жыл бұрын

    2.5in ssd is great nowadays since it's so cheap now, got a 1tb ssd for $80 last summer

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea, crazy how cheap 1TB is now, I remember when it was multiple hundreds of dollars. My first SSD was a 128GB for like $60-70 haha

  • @DarthSmirnoff
    @DarthSmirnoff3 жыл бұрын

    I'm still living with a normal spinning drive, but looking to get a M.2 for at least Windows + my most used games.

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    It will feel like the best upgrade ever once you do!

  • @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat
    @HolahkuTaigiTWFormosanDiplomat Жыл бұрын

    3:02 Gen 3 Cons?

  • @mrsupertash
    @mrsupertash7 ай бұрын

    I know this is two years old, but 1) what was your HDD? A hybrid drive? Firecuda? It took off with 1.6GB/s speeds before dropping to 200MB/s quickly. 2) You still bottlenecked your Gen 4 drive a bit by copying the 200GB to the same drive because it had to do both read and write operations at the same time while the others only had to write. Great video and good tests!

  • @MrPapous47
    @MrPapous473 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2.5 sata for boot and a 1tb hhd

  • @churblefurbles
    @churblefurbles Жыл бұрын

    You were being limited by the relatively slow ipc of the old 3900, its why the new intel chips have the fastest storage performance.

  • @soapa4279
    @soapa42792 жыл бұрын

    The only HDDs I own left are for my NAS in RAID giving me about 24TB of use. Otherwise, all SSD all the way

  • @hyperspectrum859
    @hyperspectrum8593 жыл бұрын

    in my opinion u should do ssd and hard drive together so like u download windows and big games on ur ssd and to save space u can download games on ur hard drive

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, best used together!

  • @yayastrawberry4218
    @yayastrawberry42183 жыл бұрын

    I am currently using a lenovo c260 (celeron jn1800 model) with a 500gb hard drive and 4gb's of ram but a am soon getting a I5 10400f and a 3060 with a 1 tb m.2 nvme ssd. My current pc took 1 minute and 47 seconds to boot lmao.

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick3 жыл бұрын

    G'day Danny, That was a really simple explanation & visual performance description, here in Australia even Sata Storage is still way more expensive per GB than spinning disc drives as a comparison for where I shop in Sydney if you are building a Gaming PC you can get... Crucial 2TB SSD, BX500, 2.5" SATAIII $249 Kingston 120GB SSD $44AUD + Western Digital WD 2TB Blue 3.5" $89AUD = $133AUD so for Low Budget buyers here wanting new parts I would recommend that $115AUD difference would be better invested in a CPU or GPU for a better In Game Experience, For my Gaming PC I did spend a bit more on the OS drive because for a while before I built my new Editing PC I was using my Gaming PC to Edit Home Videos, So my Gaming PC has an ADATA PCIe3 256GB M.2 (OS) & Hitachi 3TB 7200RPM (Second Hand - Storage Drive)

  • @joshjonson2368

    @joshjonson2368

    Жыл бұрын

    Would buying a i7 11700k over a 10700k be worth the extra nvme 4 lane? It's going to be 100 dollars more to a potentia futurel upgrade option, or is that a waste?

  • @shaneeslick

    @shaneeslick

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshjonson2368 🤔do you have a 400 or 500 series chipset motherboard? if you have a 400 series chipset the motherboard will not support the 4 extra CPU lanes or PCIe Gen4 of the 11700K making it a waste without a 500 series chipset motherboard upgrade too, if you have a 500 series chipset motherboard it will really depend on how much your change over will cost as to whether you think it is worth it for an extra M.2 & PCIe Gen4, Is PCIe Gen4 worth it? At the moment the only task that will benefit from PCIe Gen 4 is Single Extended Data Transfers like very big video files eg 4K movies so it is a benefit for those doing Editing or similar tasks, smaller transfers do not see huge gains, If your primary task is gaming 99% of GPUs are not limited by PCIe X16 Gen3 so it will not benefit Gaming Performance & there is still not a difference in game performance from PCIe Gen3 to Gen4, If your thought is moving big game files on & off your main drive, while Games are very large in size they are not 1 big file but made up of lots of seperate files & so even moving a game of 100GB or larger you will not get the benefit of PCIe Gen4 Data Transfer Speeds. Hope this is a help & not too confusing.

  • @joshjonson2368

    @joshjonson2368

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaneeslick I was impulsive and got this z590 aorus ultra due to severe shortages of the z490 boards, even a rather mediocre comet lake board like the msi z490a pro was costing 300aud so I ordered a z590 aorus pro for exactly the same price. I ordered a i7 10700k (which by all measures still works fine in a z590) but simply means I'd have to slot the nvme in the middle instead of top cpu allocated m.2 slot. Now as it's a amazon order that hasn't arrived yet I could return it and get a i7 11700kf (which would cost me $80 more than the amazon 10th gen cpu). But at this point I'd either be going to a manhunt for a half decent z490 board, or simplifying the whole ordeal and just get a 11th i7 kf cpu. I know the rocket lakes are very hot, not sure if that alone should put me off and just settle with the z590, or even salvage some money and sell it in order to grab something off of ebay. I'm getting the gist at this point to may as well get a 11th gen for the extra buck, not the bargain price the 10th gen was but at least it has pcie4? What do you think and thanks for your input man!

  • @joshjonson2368

    @joshjonson2368

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaneeslick so I did find one z490 online for about 200 bucks, says refurnished and doesn't come with any cables, I'd have to somehow sell this z590 (who knows if there's even a demand for this thing but seems like every board that's not the latest one is a rip-off lol), or just get rid of both the 10th gen and this board and get a ryzen 5700, but seems like good x570 boards are even rarer, most honestly look kind of awful and even worse than the z590 options (the x570 aorus elite is $100 more than the equivalent z590)

  • @shaneeslick

    @shaneeslick

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshjonson2368 As you said the 10700K will be fine with the M.2 in the lower slot, but if the upgrade to 11700KF is only $80 & it seems money is not an issue I'd do that, either way I would not swap to a Z490 for intel when you already have a good Z590, that would be crazy. as for swapping to 5700 & X570 as well as less gaming performance compared to the 10700K/11700KF you will still be in the same position in the future of needing a whole platform upgrade so that would not be worth it.

  • @Joeker8171
    @Joeker81713 жыл бұрын

    Hey Danny! This is Mr. Clyburn changed my name

  • @carlosdinero6692
    @carlosdinero66922 жыл бұрын

    m.2 vs optanel h10 32 gs 512 gb

  • @Onion_Knights
    @Onion_Knights Жыл бұрын

    SSD are cheap now, just bought some SSD for storage since i wont have to worry about dropping it, its light and small.

  • @ZephCloud
    @ZephCloud3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 4tb hdd,2tb 2.5” ssd and a 2tb gen3x4 nvme ssd..

  • @Phyxsius_85
    @Phyxsius_85 Жыл бұрын

    Fewer cables and a cleaner build, but if you have a good SSD and don't do some heavy stuff that requires a lot of data transfer, it's not worth upgrading. And of course NVMe generates a lot more heat

  • @Playtrack22
    @Playtrack223 жыл бұрын

    I have a question what is different between inland professional and premium ssd?

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Premium have higher read and write speeds, as well as being TLC NAND which is better for long term durability than QLC seen in professional. That said though, most users won't notice the difference in the lifetime of the drives, both are feasible

  • @uncrunch398
    @uncrunch398 Жыл бұрын

    Average lifespan could be a factor for some people. If you have a failing HDD, it's 22TB and full. You might need a recovery service to finish getting everything off of it. I've heard stories of RAID rebuilds recovering with spares failing because a second drive would fail before it's finish due to taking so long. There needs to be a set threshold for capacity to read/write speed ratio. If it takes more than a day to read or write the entire capacity, skip. Unless it's for scratch or caching.

  • @mm8436
    @mm84363 жыл бұрын

    I have Nvme 3.0, m.2 ssd, and hdd

  • @snsdjerry
    @snsdjerry3 жыл бұрын

    I like ur lan party upload

  • @charlieno7893
    @charlieno78932 жыл бұрын

    Sata SSD is the best bang for the buck, but all are good depending on your needs. Gen 3 is for me personally.

  • @KickAssets
    @KickAssets2 жыл бұрын

    So if it was me...I'd do 2 1GB 3.0's on mother board...1 for programs..1 for quick video/file access 1 external SSD 1GB for convenience a portability a fuck ton of IDEs for long term storage to hold all my cat videos :D

  • @tagginondawal3961
    @tagginondawal39613 жыл бұрын

    Me: as long as it's not DRAM-less, I'm good. Edit. HDDs are still relevant IMO despite being slow. If you need storage, it tends to be the cheapest. In my personal rig, I got one M.2, 3 SATA M.2s and 1 4 TB HDD

  • @ShadowLancer128

    @ShadowLancer128

    2 жыл бұрын

    running one of those pcie storage cards, i see. are there any benefits to those other than additional storage? I heard RAID 0 can make load times slower because it puts another step into the loading process. I'm using pcie 3.0 myself.

  • @KickAssets
    @KickAssets2 жыл бұрын

    3.0 for the win...cleanliness and size is worth it.

  • @GhoSa_
    @GhoSa_3 жыл бұрын

    I ordert one legit 30 Mins ago

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice, which one?

  • @Echo4Yankee
    @Echo4YankeeАй бұрын

    Do you say SATA are multiple times slower than PCIE? That's so incorrect. Two seconds is nothing.

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    Ай бұрын

    Boot up time != transfer speeds

  • @saibamoe
    @saibamoe6 ай бұрын

    for gaming, SSD is fine even in m.2 format, so you don't have that bulky box, you have it tied on the motherboard Gamers, just relax just get SSD NVME barely ehelps in some, not all, applications, so unless you're doing productivity and it's important to you as maybe you're making money with it, just don't spend more than you need

  • @JustMyFish
    @JustMyFish Жыл бұрын

    For now Gen 3 simply because I will never get the performance of Gen 4 out of my machine.

  • @ParadoxEP
    @ParadoxEP11 ай бұрын

    im gonna guess GTAV so old that it maxes out it's speed with the regular sata ssd and can't really take advantage of anything higher.

  • @haveacigar5291
    @haveacigar52912 жыл бұрын

    ssd for me

  • @phillipzx3754
    @phillipzx3754 Жыл бұрын

    I know this video is a year old, but...Gen 4 drives are twice as fast, not "multiple times" faster. :-) My gen 4 drives are smoking fast but I'm not sure if I can actually "feel" any difference over my Gen 3 m.2s. But...as long as my benchmark software (CrystalDiskMark) says they're faster, I'm happy. ;-)

  • @nerdonabudget

    @nerdonabudget

    Жыл бұрын

    I used "multiple" as a general term because depending on the drive, you can have 2x difference up to 3-4x ( plenty of gen 3 drives with 1500 mb/s speeds and gen 4 with 4-6000mb/s). You'll feel the difference mostly during direct transfers, but only if both target and source drives are not being bottlenecked. Not much point in having a single gen 4 drive in a system if it's limited by how quick gen 3 drives or sata are at copying the data over to it

  • @sategllib2191

    @sategllib2191

    Жыл бұрын

    He's not wrong with "multiple times faster". Two is multiple, and gen 4 is two times faster

  • @badreality2
    @badreality22 жыл бұрын

    Simple, use HDD's for unfinished video editing, use SSD's for everything else.

  • @auradex
    @auradex3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a SATA

  • @ocaenman
    @ocaenman3 жыл бұрын

    Ayooooooo!!!!

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