"They aren't here to sell jersey" Exactly. They are there to sell seats in Scotiabank Arena... which they continue to do. So they are completely content.

@mystreteacher

22 күн бұрын

A lot of corporate buys unfortunately.

@bencurtis69

22 күн бұрын

You’re crazy if you think they don’t want to be selling tickets to round 2, 3 and 4. Leaving millions on the table by losing in the first round. Makes sense financially for them to succeed

This was a different presser than what we usually hear? really? Did you watch the same presser we did? It was ground hog day in Toronto

@MisterMister5893

22 күн бұрын

What does that term mean? I didn't watch the movie with rapt interest or is it a term derived completely unrelated to the movie by the same name?

@DrunkwatchMandalorian

22 күн бұрын

@@MisterMister5893it’s a metaphor “A situation in which events that have happened before happen again, in what seems to be exactly the same way”

@-Subtle-

22 күн бұрын

​@MisterMister5893 in the movie the protagonist relives groundhog day repeatedly and is the only one the wiser

Just do it. Trade John Tavares, Rielly, and Marner. Moving on from JT creates serious cap space. MM can get the Leafs some solid pieces and prospects. And Rielly could get a defensive defenceman or a forward that can score. Reilly has a terrible shot from the point. Those guys off the PP alone will improve the Leafs. I'd rather see Bobby McMann, Robertson, and Knies than those three guys.

@larrygrassinger2819

23 күн бұрын

All three are untradeable, wouldn't you say?

@nickspencer1220

22 күн бұрын

Not as easy as you think It’s not NHL 24 buddy lol. Would be a miracle if they find a way to trade even one of those guys

@iainmore3961

22 күн бұрын

Yeah and if every every wish I had was a Dollar then I would be a would be a millionaire.

@jberczi6

22 күн бұрын

Name one trade partner for John Tavares

@stephane8621

22 күн бұрын

MM will most definitely not get you a solid piece or prospect. At his salary cap with only a year remaining on a NTC no less, you'll be lucky to get a second rounder. Other Gm's don't ever toss you a liferaft.

The leafs top 3 managers have spoken awkwardly about their failed performance but not their own resignations. The top guy says he just arrived so is relying on the other 2? Changes on ice have begun in earnest among the ranks but not necessarily for Shanahan's wobbly voiced master plan. Which he is waiting to test again with new coaching & lineup.

@scottdellaire4552

22 күн бұрын

Excellent summary for that notable press conference.

@MisterMister5893

22 күн бұрын

First of all, you can't really blame Treliving for the failing of this team, wholesale. Keefe fell on the sword for Shanahan and Dubas. How much meddling Shanahan had in Dubas' moves is pure speculation. Maybe we will read about it in a memoir when he retires but by all accounts, Dubas wasn't fired, but engineered his departure. I don't see any appreciable benefit in dismissing Shanahan right now given the new "head master" reigns. He is definitely on a short leash and will have to show significant progress next season or he doesn't return. Whether he believes a new coach will be the x-factor with these guys remains to be seen and we'll know the answer this year. Brendan has stuck with his vision for 9 years now, what's one more? He believes the talent is there to get the job done and I can't say I blame him. A lot of the breakdowns this season was directly the failing of the coach not pivoting when the team suffered crisis of confidence during games or during stretches of games. Everyone says Keefe isn't a bad coach given his strong record. When you're as stacked as the Leafs are, it's hard not to have success drop on your lap. Let's see what a new coach and their vision can do with this team. Also, Babcock had possibly the most stacked team in history with those Detroit teams. I would say they rivalled the Oiler's Dynasty years so the team he had in Toronto didn't quite match up and his lack of success is understandable.

@scooter29

22 күн бұрын

The new CEO should have put his stamp on the team. Should have gutted it. Everyone gone. But it sounds like a rinse and repeat.

@nadia0701

22 күн бұрын

I think Dubas sold Shanny on the cap going up to justify Marner $. That was the failure - if marner took Nylander money...Marner is under less pressure, and that extra $4m is a better goalie or a 2A on D.

Keeping Shanahan = embracing the definition of insanity.

@carter7944

22 күн бұрын

Have you considered there may not be a good replacment out there

@nadia0701

22 күн бұрын

I think Shanny believed in Dubas. Dubas got his lunch money taken by Ferris, Shanny convinced the board the salary cap would go up. Here we are. What is Marner worth noting that playoffs are physical.

@wizzerwiser2056

22 күн бұрын

@@nadia0701 Dubas came from the OHL. He never negotiated a pro contract until he had to re-up Nylander. Hiring an inexperienced GM is on Shanahan. Even if the salary cap rose significantly other teams would still have more cap space than the Maple Leafs.

@mysticone1798

20 күн бұрын

Agreed. The lack of team inspiration is a mark of coaching problems.

Considering there ARE no move clauses, let's not be surprised we run it back for one more year!

@RobbieG17

22 күн бұрын

Considering how that's never stopped people from being moved in the past, don't be surprised if they do get traded! Only need to look as far back as Kaberle for a Leaf with a NMC, Burke traded him to Boston.

@ryanm776

22 күн бұрын

@@RobbieG17 oh it could happen But all the power is in the players hands, so I'm not expecting it.

@markg2307

22 күн бұрын

Useless organization

@JimmyKnies

22 күн бұрын

​@@ryanm776if the Leafs simply say they don't want him after next year and make it public, why wouldn't he want to leave ? I'm hopeful they move him

@ryanm776

22 күн бұрын

@@JimmyKnies I hope they move him too However, if they make it public then that greatly lessens his value and the team loses leverage!

Next year will be a write-off... they're not getting out of those no-trade contracts, lol. They'll be back with the same 5 and need to suck it up for next year. 2-3 years they should be in good shape again.

@scottdellaire4552

22 күн бұрын

That’s what it is looking like. Hopefully they get a solid coach and have a healthy goaltender all the time….

@ClaytonCatlin

22 күн бұрын

You're acting like a player with a no-trade clause has never been traded. What an absurd take.

@markg2307

22 күн бұрын

Good shape again?

@titanmma101

22 күн бұрын

Say what you will, if the Gm calls you in and says, "we don't want you anymore", why would you stay and damage your career?

Tavares was worth 8 M according to the 2017-18 points ranking for forwards. Tavares wanted to come to Toronto. So why were the Leafs content to over pay Tavares by at least 3 M? Of course to make more money. They looked at JT's contract as what it would bring to the Leaf's financials. By the way, because other teams were thinking about over paying Tavares more does not make it a deal to over pay him less than others. It still is an over pay. By points this season Tavares was 64th for forwards and ranked at 7 M. An over pay of 4 M. GLG Hyman ranked 8.7 M. Kadri 8.5 M. Both are under paid. Since the major players on the Leafs have NMC no major changes until July 1, 2025. MLSE and the Leafs should have been up front with this and at the very least been honest with Leaf fans. They weren't.

Dreger talks but doesn't say anything!

@huey166

22 күн бұрын

Mitch Kerfoot takes a lot of heat here. Lol from who, I haven't heard any boo-ing when he's on the ice. Or did Dregs mean social media tells the truth, when it comes to his performance.

@monroefuches2707

22 күн бұрын

That's his job.

What makes Shanahan qualified for this job anyway?? People are forgetting before this he was dishing out league suspensions. Just because you were a good former player that doesn’t automatically make you a good President or GM

Has Dreger seen the footage of the Marner jersey getting torched? It was 🔥

@vmi4172

22 күн бұрын

Which one? Theres literally hundreds of them every year around this time🤣

They never knew winning was important?.. WTF

The body turns towards each other

This is different boys. 😎😎😎

I’ll believe it when I see it

Its going to hurt losing 90-100pt Marner but needs to be done. Keep Tavares. Resign him at 3.5 x 3. Lets see how he does at the world's.

Apparently not. Shanahan takes full accountability and zero consequences.

@carter7944

22 күн бұрын

Who would replace him though there probably isnt anyone out there right now

It was a load of bollocks. Anyone considering watching it in full, don’t.

@larrygrassinger2819

23 күн бұрын

Three stooges on a stooge channel

@tobinkern5389

23 күн бұрын

Only spent 8 seconds before seeing your comment. Gone

@larrygrassinger2819

22 күн бұрын

@@tobinkern5389 I wonder if TSN or YT censored it?

@noodle3872

22 күн бұрын

Plus the microphones were crackling which made listening difficult.

The smart coaches will run from the Toronto coaching position!,

Maple Laughs 🍁 😅

@vmi4172

22 күн бұрын

Soy Leafs 🍼🤣

For a struggling expansion team the Leafs are making significant inroads. Be patient.

We can and we will, until we did and we didn't.

My guess is - this is the exit plan for Shanny and 2 or 3 of the Leafs Core 4 playoff disappointments. 😀

first off the team needs to be able to beat Florida and Boston to make it out of the Atlantic division. Until that happens they will never make it past the 1st or 2nd round

Ya's HAD one!!!!

Keeping Shanahan is the wrong move. Even if they succeed in the coming years and make deep playoff runs, there’s no way it goes credited to Shanahan.

Anyone expecting them to come out an say “where trading marner” are kinda dumb. You can’t show your hand when trying to make moves as a franchise. Gotta hope them “looking at everything” includes the “core 4” though 😂

@larrygrassinger2819

22 күн бұрын

MLSE=DEI=Ontario Teachers Union. Nothing good will ever happen for this team while they are in control.

We need Cale Makar.

@MisterMister5893

22 күн бұрын

He probably prefers Colorado to Ontario. He is from Calgary and the rockies in Denver are more his thing. Everyone thinks playing under the spot light of Toronto is every player's aspiration. Not everyone wants to be some kind of saviour for this franchise's cup-less curse.

Hey! Is that dude in the middle on a box? ... spec. F/X

I think Utah will win a cup before the Leafs do...😂

@davidjohnson-fw5co

22 күн бұрын

I said the same when the Jays joined MLB and the Raptors joined NBA

@scooter29

22 күн бұрын

Guaranteed

They don't need to win to make their revenue. No core 4 changes. Same team next season

Nothing will ever change. Same old story they will choke once again

@kingderrickdanquah3627

23 күн бұрын

Marner Will Be Traded Out

Berube would be nice, or brindamour.

politicians covering for politicians

This is different. No it''s not. Same old rhetorics. We're watching the 3 stooges here. 😂

Guess who?

The Core 4 Will Be Dismantle

Crazy these guys repot on Leafs 365 days a year while the pampered players are probably already on the golf course or at their cottage like Keefe ;). He already knew and just wanted to brace himself and his family a day before the news came down.

Pelley didn’t say one thing that I wanted to hear-we need to get bigger and tougher!If the Buds try to run it back with the core 4,all smallish forwards who won’t fight for puck possession in the corners,they might as well run the white flag up the pole and call it a season.And Shanahan evaded that question asked at the presser,does he deserve another contract?What he said was it will not be a distraction to the team.That’s a politician answer-answering the question with an evasive answer.

@MisterMister5893

22 күн бұрын

Pelly is just the man behind the curtains. The needs of the Leafs are handled by Shanahan and Treliving. He's only here to make sure they function in harmony and keep the brand profitable again.

@markiv2942

22 күн бұрын

" I wanted to hear-we need to get bigger and tougher!I" Another dumb redneck.

Trade for Marner..

Maple🍁Laughs = The Titanic 🚢 They sink whenever they hit the ice in April/May!

They want to WIN... 😆😆😆😆 THAT'S LAUGHABLE BUD.. None those players mention they want to win the Stanley cup.... Even MANAGEMENT hasn't said it... Player they have ACQUIRE haven't said they come here for one reason. To win the Stanley cup....

@titanmma101

22 күн бұрын

They aren't even close and they all know it.

Marner Will Be Traded Out

@larrygrassinger2819

22 күн бұрын

Just wait one year until he becomes a free agent. Someone can probably sign him for a realistic contract. Maybe 7-7.5 million?

@codymachado

22 күн бұрын

​@@larrygrassinger2819maybe 5-6 years ago. If Pierre luc Dubois got 8.5 why would Marner be worth less. He could get 10-12 mil from any team really

@larrygrassinger2819

22 күн бұрын

@@codymachado That's funny. You're comparing one loser to another loser. Good joke, but it's not funny.

@kingderrickdanquah3627

19 күн бұрын

​@larrygrassinger2819 You Can Trade Marner Get A Player & 1 & 2 Rounder Or You Can Get Marner To Pittsburgh For A Player To Be Named Later & 1 & 2 Rounder

@kingderrickdanquah3627

9 күн бұрын

Marner No Show Every Play Offs

Tough talk for a soft team. No cup for Tranna...ever.

I just wonder what kind of team would you have if each and every player made exactly the same salary ? - Just fantasizing.

Pelli is just there for the money. He is no different then shanny. Same old nonsense.

@el222

20 күн бұрын

When he started talking about Shanny the player instead of the executive, that's all we needed to know.

Just listened to it again...................Yup, for sure, that's exactly what I heard - Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah..................

Why don't any of these talking heads talk about Treveling and Shanahan being fired. The team was significantly worse than last year - both regular season and playoffs. The GM had the flexibility to move Matthews, Marner, or Nylander before July 1st last year and failed to act. He did nothing at the trade deadline. He did nothing about the goalie situation. Now that he has less flexibility, he's supposed to do better?! His signings were awful. Reeves was not playing at the end of the playoffs due to his complete inability to play his position. Domi was mediocre this year, cost us any chance in game 1 where we went full Kadri, and eventually was a non-factor for the series. Bertuzzi is, I think, the worst 5.5M skater I've ever seen. He constantly falls over and makes poor decisions all the time. He burned us with a few dumb penalties as well. Get ready fellow Leaf fans, Marner isn't going anywhere. My move would be to not offer him a contract at all, or severely lowball him. Let him come to you to demand a trade, or let him play out the year with the motivation of having good results for his UFA discussions in 2025 with other teams. I'm not worried about letting him walk without trading him. That's a lot of cap space. Addition by subtraction.

This team is run by 2 corporations. No one cares if they win. As long as it’s a money maker that’s it. This club is doomed until it has an owner who is an individual or individuals versus faceless corporations. There is no way Shanahan would keep his job for 10 years if they were a individual owner above him.

Shanny is the least important person at the table and entirely expendable

The leafs are going to get rid of 1 of the core 4 only to bring in another "core 4". Stamkos will be there next at 9 mill per. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm sure Dubas would be interested in Marner or Reilly.

They certainly aren’t here to win lol

If I were Brad Treliving, I'd bring in Darryl Sutter, at least for the moment, to see if he can get these guys to learn how to get tough enough to repeat what they do in The Regular Season thereafter. If not, to start to go in another direction. Before anyone starts screaming, I am of the view that there has to be an Assessment of why these Core Four are fabulous in The Regular Season & Disappear in the months after. Let me know what you think & please be a respectful comment, since, I'm open to hearing different views that are respectful & logical.

@scottdellaire4552

22 күн бұрын

That won’t happen after Babcock. They need Brind’Amour…..

@mariovaccarella6854

22 күн бұрын

@@scottdellaire4552 Thank You for your comment & answer. I don't think that they would do it, but, as I'm sure that you'll agree, they need A Hard A*s Coach, if these players, who are Great in The Regular Season, are to perform (or, are capable of it) after. Let me know what you think

@mariovaccarella6854

22 күн бұрын

@@scottdellaire4552 PS. I really & truly don't know if Brind'Amour or Berube would be tough, which is what I think that The Toronto Maple Leafs need, now that they've moved on from Sheldon Keefe. At the very least, I think that's what I got out of The Press Conference, not to even mention, that Darryl Sutter was The Coach under GM Brad Treliving. Let me know what you think

@VinceDAgostino

22 күн бұрын

Claude Julian

Claude Julien. Q. Bylsma. Potvin. Gilmour. Berube. Please not Todd.

BOYCOTT THEM. Enough is enough.

I’ll believe it when I see it. Until then it’s all just talking heads saying the same crap every year

Mitch leaves Leafs to join Major League Hockey

@MisterMister5893

22 күн бұрын

Funnily enough, he would probably excel under that format. He just won't get reward the same way. Who knows, if it picks up and its fan base grows, the financial rewards may be at par and it's anybody's guess what will happen. Remember that game from MidWay 3 on 3 hockey with the gigantic heads? Who didn't prefer to play those to the standard format 5 vs 5 hockey games? IT's different, exciting and fast pace. And everyone now loves TikTok, Instagram and even KZread Shorts compared to the long form stuff.

What I don't understand is why MM and not WN. Marner is a better all round player. Didn't produce in the playoffs, huh, he has more points than the rest. Leafs would get a lot fot WN. Besides Willie disappears a lot. Look for him to be a huge disappointment going forward. Btw, Dreger talks so much and says nothing..

@monroefuches2707

22 күн бұрын

WN prefers to avoid contact but will step forward on occasion while MM always goes the other way. Except of course when there is the option for a dipsey doodle curlicue Brian Boitano triple salchow.

I want Joel Quennville or Daryl Sutter as the Leafs coach I don't want Berube i didnt like how he handled the Kadri situation in St Louis

@ScubaSteveCanada

22 күн бұрын

Did you like how the Leafs handle the Kadri situation? I sure did.

@eddy5097

22 күн бұрын

@@ScubaSteveCanada No I was very upset, Kadri was basically Darcy Tucker/Doug Gilmour the kind of player we apparently love and we shat all over him from his first preseason

@eddy5097

22 күн бұрын

@@ScubaSteveCanada and I was very happy to see him shit all over the St Louis Blues and their racist fanbase with that hat trick...in fact he schooled Tim Thomas on those shootout goals when he was a leaf as well...

@eddy5097

22 күн бұрын

@@ScubaSteveCanada Kadri one of my favourite players I love ppl that can overcome adversity and succeed

@eddy5097

22 күн бұрын

@@ScubaSteveCanada who's your favourite NHL team and player

I would think you'd get a lot for a GOD.

There should be lots of trades and terminations or the leafs are a joke

Pelley : I just got here 4 weeks ago, so in other words he has no clue to Shanahan record with the leafs that says a lot about how much they want to win. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Blah,blah blah..just more of the same. Saying the right things for ticket sales.

Nope

Shan the man

Nobody is taking on the Marner nor Tavares contract in the summer. Best bet is during the season or trade deadline but it has to be for D or G or equal value back or you're telling your fanbase you are chucking the season. Nylander is untouchable atm with his migraines.

I would hope so. This group of players can't win anything.

Once again, several lower paid mediocre players will be moved out, while a group of new mediocre players will be moved in. ✔️

About time somebody with a brain decided to make some easy decisions that should have been made after 2021 playoffs …

WIN! Yeah but no mention of winning the Stanley Cup. To neglect to mention that means they have (the owners) absolutely no desire to win the Stanley Cup. The problem since the Harold Ballard, sole ownership, days! Don't expect too much next season and you won't be disappointed.

"We're not here to sell jerseys ...." ahhh, there's the rub. They will need to sell jerseys to keep overpaying their bloated payroll team and free agents. A real team builds via the draft, and adds pieces when deemed necessary. Leafs buy free agents and only draft when deemed necessary. Will never work out as you do not build a real team that way, only individuals. Got lucky with Auston on the powerball draw - no skill involved, trust me.

Yada, Yada, Yada!!!

Nothing will change except the Leafs don't make the playoffs next year.

No there are not. Every year it's the same thing. High expectations, playoff failure, talk of "change is needed to succeed", 90% of the same roster returns plus a couple new depth pieces, repeat.

Roflmfao you guys are so ridiculous. 😂😂 making changes just means the staff and your junior players bcoz no one is gonna trade for any of those team breaking contracts for players who refuse to play in the playoffs. 😂

The coach gets firerd and not shannahan that's not fare

They want to win??? 😂😂😂 they dont play like it. Fire them all

If smart, they would of fired Brandon. He needs to have gone last year!

The Leafs are the SOFTEST team in the NHL! This type of team, will not get you deep into the playoffs. Until management uses common sense and adds size, team toughness, and grit, this team is going nowhere, but down? Management needs to take their Disneyland Sports Management degrees and get to work! Leafs Nation, deserves Lord Stanley sooner, than later!

Fail. The CEO does not fire Shanahan. This is another complete failure. Everybody knows the core 4 is Shanahan’s baby. All that BS talk by the CEO that winning is the only thing that matters and yet he doesn’t have the stones to fire Shanahan is a giant fail right out of the gate

@carter7944

22 күн бұрын

Have you considered there may not be a good replacement out there yet

@brianjurko9085

22 күн бұрын

@@carter7944 I don’t give a crap if there’s no replacements I’d rather have no one than the same old garbage

You guys are taking nonsense if you’re not pointing out that obviously Shannan HAS to go. Are you afraid of Shanahan ?

@carter7944

22 күн бұрын

He does but hes probably still on because there isnt a good replacement out there for him yet tbh

"Winning means winning the Stanley cup and nothing short of that" Mannnn what a load of crap... We get this after every failed series.. You need 16 wins post season to win this award.. YOur best season was 5. Quite talking like you guys are even close.. the Shanaplan sucks!!

5 more years of this crap....hahahahahahahaha.....

Talk is cheap.

If you watch the playoffs you realize just how far this team is. Not even close to competing with the Panthers! Tavares, Marner is essential. Then you have Mathews, a big pillow of a player that can shoot the puck, otherwise he is not a leader and not a game breaker. Maybe one game in his career he took over a playoff game. ONE GAME IN HIS CAREER! So Leafs fans, enjoy the regular season, because thats all your going to get.

Both dumb choices to coach the leafs

nExT yEaR iS oUr YeAr 😂

Marner will not move and they will get nothing for him next July.

Fire Shanny…. That’s a good start.

Prove it get rid of mariner now!!!!!