the government so full of old people that can't even open a PDF file lmao

@markjesse-uh1bw

Ай бұрын

lol 😂

@steven-el3sw

Ай бұрын

the govt is filled with pdf files...

@njpme

Ай бұрын

​@@steven-el3swI see what you did there 😂

@spicychad55

Ай бұрын

@@steven-el3sw only the ones with the (R) by their name!

@dan-tv1kp

Ай бұрын

Unless that PDF has a 0-day exploit ;-)

"You'll never be able to prevent all cyber intrusions..." -Michael Daniel. I'm glad we have someone in a position of power with the clarity to observe this fact.

This is 8 years old - little outdated?

@josha.bdoge2

Ай бұрын

Vice wasnt allow to release it until they checked in with their new Saudi masters...

@GrannyDryden

Ай бұрын

I think the core message still stands, however, I did think something similar when they were talking to President Obama’s security consultant.

@x316RiotMakerx

Ай бұрын

The video might be outdated, the message is absolutely relevant.

@dancoroian1

Ай бұрын

Vice doesn't actually exist anymore, what do you expect? Nothing they've uploaded recently is new...

@Blingchachink

Ай бұрын

@@GrannyDrydenawww do you?

How come these only get posted 8 years after it's aired on TV?

@JordanJ01

Ай бұрын

Bankruptcy, lol.

@gbaysinger

Ай бұрын

Vice is essentially dead. They tried to grow too much. When that collapsed they tried to partner/merge/be acquired in recent months but had no takers. They're just releasing most of their content now possibly in a last gasp. Very unfortunate but there doesn't seem to be a market for this content on the budget it requires, we're down to mostly small independent creators now and are going to lose out on a lot of topics.

@user-ld8mz9ej1c

Ай бұрын

Cause they are money grubbers

@blaskoxx4954

Ай бұрын

Vice got greedy they saw the money and they took it.

@marcfavell

Ай бұрын

Because there's an Internet TV delay do to the hackers 😂

Keep bullying nerds in highschool, this is what happens

@Melted-Ether

Ай бұрын

I think nation state adversaries are the threat. Not “nerds” in school. Bullied people are still good people who take part in our society.

@ColtranesOffspring45

Ай бұрын

​@@Melted-Etheragreed, good response

@nermo.artist

Ай бұрын

nerds are out for revenge

@broken_casper

Ай бұрын

💀wall st still bullies lol

@ud7845

Ай бұрын

We aren't in 1990 anymore dude lmao

Neglect is a bigger threat than spooky hackers.

Cyberwar was one of the best shows on Vice when it aired on TV. Wished they kept this show going...

I would have loved a reporter that actually knew IT or cyber security in the slightest to be reporting on this. This guy had no idea what any of these people were talking about.

@brainwashedburgerworshipper

9 күн бұрын

I dont think it matters because we still got a lot of insight from in the know and cyber job title people.

@ajmasters6546

9 күн бұрын

@@brainwashedburgerworshipper it does matter because the person doing the interview needs to understand what the person is talking about to ask good questions in response to their answers to have an engaging conversation and to get more information about the topic.

As a person who learn computer/basic cybersecurity for 15years and play on both legacy and new technology, I can say one thing that if anything is connected on network, you better have it secure with good encryption. It is not guarantee, but better be safe than sorry. Edit: learning network infrastructure is fun and get to see situations to building and finding vulnerability to prevent the real life situation.

@EBO47

Ай бұрын

Do you think computer science should be mandatory in school from elementary to high-school? Feel like it's not because to many people would try to be hackers

12:59 the person on the bike in the background for sure fell off after that shot

@masterbelch1293

Ай бұрын

Attention to fine detail nice. Been there swerving out of control, lol

@S.aTan-._.-

Ай бұрын

😂

This seems like the worst period. Even the market are now very unpredictable. Started investing recently when the market prices were a bit high,today I am more than 60% down!

@LEOkidHappy

Ай бұрын

Don’t be confuse buying the dip in a bear market, with guaranteed future returns. Just because that company is down 60%+ from ATH does NOT make it a sound long-term investment. Make sure you’re investing in great companies. kudos to harriet alice ....

@MosesUroh

Ай бұрын

I agree just reached my goal of $500k yearly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading

@user-ix4hh7zi9d

Ай бұрын

Please educate me, i'm willing to make consultations to improve my situation,

@LovelyFurryCat-pk9bt

Ай бұрын

Her technical analysis is excellent and her interpretation/projections of the market are so accurate I sometimes ask myself is she is a human The point she is the perfect trader to follow for advice and guidance

@user-ix4hh7zi9d

Ай бұрын

Please how do I find this financial counselor?

Yes

Stuxnet was brought into an Iranian facility via an external drive and wasn't even connected via the net.

It's not hackers you have to worry about. You have to worry about an entity ( a person who isn't in the system but is in the system with a name) that knows how to monopolize people. A computer doesn't know how to monopolize people and psyche them out with Psychological Operations. I knew of a girl who did this and she had five counties wrapped around her little finger. The cool thing was that she was being herself. She passed away and her legacy is still thriving.

@LIZOV-ek6cz

Ай бұрын

❤

Crazy idea: what if we didn't connect them to the internet

@dsnodgrass4843

Ай бұрын

"But muh line won't go up!" - hedge fund tech stock flippers.

@g00rb4u

Ай бұрын

As the comment above says, Stuxnet was brought in via a USB Drive to an otherwise isolated system.

@LoayMatar

Ай бұрын

Yes, ICS and other critical systems should be in an air-gapped network.

@danchapman78

11 күн бұрын

@@LoayMatar They have been air-gapped when air-gapped wasnt cool . They all look and act the same , what you see aint nuthing new .

A fun exercise is to look back at some of the “disasters” that happened to developed economies and ask yourself if this could have been intentionally caused by a cyber attack. Fires caused by overloaded power lines, hospitals loosing their medical records and access to their systems, trains carrying extreme chemicals derailing, and most recently cargo ships loosing power and crashing into bridges…

@galopeian

Ай бұрын

The insidious part is that it can also look like negligence, which is common enough when you have highly complex systems vulnerable to failures

@asdfssdfghgdfy5940

25 күн бұрын

A good point. Having watched most of the USCSB videos quite a few of them could potentially be caused by cyber attacks.

I’m just surprised more of these critical infrastructure systems aren’t “air gapped”

@brs766

Ай бұрын

A ton of them (chemical facilities) are. There is no way that person could control an NG plant in Houston.

@Maxjoker98

Ай бұрын

Yeah, air gaps are cheap and effective, but they can be very inconvenient. Also air gaps aren't perfect, everything with a pin that can be controlled programmatically can emit detectable RF. You can probably speak LoRa over VGA, HDMI, LPT, etc. Also you can do what happened with Stuxnet and just infect computers via infected USB devices(nowadays probably smartphones). In reality everything can probably be hacked, it's just about making it more difficult. Unfortunately, we're often prioritizing low cost and convenience over security.

@GrannyDryden

Ай бұрын

@@Maxjoker98 true though to my mind, remote attacks verses needing physical access to machine to deliver a payload via USB, for example is of a magnitude more difficult and would stop a lot of these random attacks. Reminds me of the early days of home wifi, when routers open authentication was on by default and you had to turn WEP on.

@synik4lc

Ай бұрын

@@Maxjoker98 Best comment in this section. Well said

@voidvector

Ай бұрын

Air gapping costs money -- it means power company engineers/technicians cannot monitor/operate remotely, e.g. WFH, requiring night shift. Are you willing to pay extra on your power bill for air gap? Or are you going to pick the cheapest power company?

Microsoft, which the U.S. Military uses for azure cloud, core codes all it's products, including azure cloud, overseas in Israel. Intel, who backdoored all of their chips, on purpose, does R&D in israel and considers themselves "as much an israeli company as a US one".

@waverley41

Ай бұрын

"core codes"? lmfao stop making up terminology 😂

@Sunrise-d819i2

Ай бұрын

@@waverley41 he means mirco-code within the cpu itself. which makes sense to call it "core" of all code as its at the core of the cpu.

The biggest threat to America's critical infrastructure is under-investment in maintaining it by the corporations that own it, in favor of profit. This makes it more vulnerable to electronic attack, of course.

What worse is that they say there is a cyber security skill shortage but almost none of these companies actually wants to invest in training cyber workforce because there is no profit. They don’t realize it until they are impacted by an attack.

@addieclark2026

Ай бұрын

as a cybersecurity advisor this is so spot on. People don't want to pay for cybersecurity until they've already been breached. This is why I'm becoming a hacker instead lol

for those complaining that it's an 8 year old video, people who haven't watched back then has the chance to see it now. and as cybersecurity goes, it's still relevant

I really enjoyed this series when it first aired. Even though this aired years ago , still very relevant in 2024.

@4:50, she is being kind. There are bigger issues than that as well.

Thanks for this information.

Situation is grim.

No, having all of our top technology R&D centers (Intel, Microsoft, AMD) in foreign countries is the greatest threat to US critical infrastructure.

This is Vice level reporting, important topic, great pace and clear explanations, great video.

Please bring more such Cyber attacks videos... It's so much interesting topic... 🙏🙏🙏🙏😊

This video is 8 years old… your killin me smalls.

Cybersecurity is a vitally important field for national security, there’s so much exposed in the US that it’s hard to defend it all effectively. Hackers are just one of the problems.

I love how he almost forgot and barely tacked on "health care"at the end 6:14 😂 lol because we don't have any health care.

we should cut or reduce use of the internet

We all didn't Pay enough attention in "MATH" classes.

Damn vice you laid off too many journalists.

Talkin about SCADA systems I'm guessing - those are fun to mess with.

The answer to question is no. The biggest threat is knowledge. And having so many inexperienced computer users set up government and critical infrastructure with default passwords isn't going to solve anything.

@GR4MPI

Ай бұрын

Bruh not far from us are the days when passwords mean nothing 😂 quantum computer and everything is public

@AlexanderNecheff

Ай бұрын

@@GR4MPI Quantum computers are not a silver bullet. Post-quantum cryptography is well underway with cipher and digital signature algorithms already identified.

@GR4MPI

Ай бұрын

@@AlexanderNecheff ye, but still imo there will be large amount of sites and other things that will take long time until they change their encryption, so in the breakthrough time we will have nice opportunity

@minisithunknown5568

Ай бұрын

To help fight against lazy passwords they just have to add a biochip reader or fingerprint/retinal scanner. But a knowledgeable human can beat any security system unless you have an active human cyber security team.

@GR4MPI

Ай бұрын

@@minisithunknown5568 Humanity should work on moral rules instead of security systems so there will no passwords be needed :D

Yes.

I feel like refusing to repair and maintain infrastructure is probably a bigger risk lol. Not that cyber warfare isn't a big risk

What U.S. Infrastructure? Have you been living under a rock or something? Whether physical or Cyber, The U.S. doesn't have any infrastructure left...

SO YALL JUST GONNA GIVE THEM IDEAS 😂

I think poor administration of said password logins is the main area were lacking in, and it's not unknown - just unaddressed, but that's where my research has me guessing. Is it unaddressed still?

Agh…every time someone calls it “the cyber” I die a little bit.

I still find the idea that there are 'rules' in war, completely absurd.

The fact that a bunch of boomers are in control of the cyber security of critical systems and departments gives little to no hope.

Why does everything need to be connected to the internet? Smh

0:29 _"wind up with a cyber war"_ Hackers: We're... in... like... 4?

Moral of the story: Never keep all your eggs in one basket.

The more “ online “ the world goes, the easy is for the world to engage in cyber warfare/ cyber shenanigans.

16:40 I thought it was Doug Stamper from House of Cards lol

13:02 had a double take of the guy in the background lol xD

Why is Vice just re-uploading all their old stuff?

@Trendwave_Clips012

Ай бұрын

Bankruptcy problem

Peace and LOVE for ONE and ALL

They talked to some real people on this episode.

Plants get hacked when companies are cheap AF. No password managers, no enforcement in Conditional Access, no passkeys, no Yubikeys etc. Refusing to upgrade and patch systems due to cost.

Is it just me or are we actually witnessing the reporter get smarter with each interview? 😂

is this a repost?

Little actions with BIG consequences. Very frightening outcomes 😡

Id suggest rust currently is

You might want to look into NERC/CIP as there are already regulations that tell utilities how they need to protect their networks

Being in gov cybersec professionally, I can tell you that it is most certainly foreign adversary hackers that are often state sponsored (even if they’re doing it for fun, the foreign adversary isn’t going to stop them bc they’re interested in that data as well). While some American hackers most certainly do have malicious intent, they are not often going after US companies. In my management of enterprise networks, bots are constantly (and annoyingly) crawling our network from foreign IP addresses (yes, namely Chinese and Russian).

That’s why cybersecurity is a growing job. They need more ppl in that field

If there's a will there's a way. Especially when the hackable internet is involved. I didn't hear any new information in this doc

13:02 lol person wobbling on bike

"Running on outdated software? You're the consequence of your own negligence. Making things proprietary? Expect consequences when the creators fade away." - SirCryptic

Is it so hard to just have some computers within the infrastructure that are not connected to the internet or outside world in any way?

@GR4MPI

Ай бұрын

Yes because they are too lazy and stupid.

@AlexanderNecheff

Ай бұрын

If you want remote support from the vendor or your operators - yes having completely air gapped systems is a problem.

@_Blay_

Ай бұрын

@@AlexanderNecheff "Remote support from the vendor"???? The companies / the goverment running that stuff should be able to operate it by themselves.

@AlexanderNecheff

Ай бұрын

​@@_Blay_ They could. But it isn't a matter of ability. Organizations love to pay support contract fees in order to shift liability to another entity. When some dam control system goes tits up because of a faulty update, the utility operating the dam doesn't want to be left holding the bag. This is the tao of corporate software purchasing agreements.

This is like a movie we have suspense!

That like hacking into ai/robot too

Don't feel too sorry about the longer video not turning out nicely, we fully understand. Sucks to hear that you have to leave your current shol. Good luck with finding a new one, hope you get sorted out soon!

Car systems have very cheap electronics and software. These are even more vulnerable, especially since manufacturers implement black boxes and wireless connections via SIM cards! 😮😮

Idk how much do you know about the flaws in siemens 7 plc's

No, the biggest threat to American infrastructure are the people who refuse to fix and maintain. Greed is the real problem here with corner cutting. If a computer attack causes an infrastructure problem, either someone is stupid or it could have been prevented but security is skimped to save money.

@dsnodgrass4843

Ай бұрын

Finally, some sense down here.

Be sure to do an update to this and talk to a bunch of "experts" and government reps that either have no idea wtf they are talking about or are being intentionally vague and fear mongering while ignoring or not actually explaining the real issues for this subject out there. Or you could just reshare this video I suppose since you already did that.

wow so cool

Unfortunately, the question of how to localize the attackers was not addressed.

I hope they don’t have box knives….

ICS networks are gapped from internet access... no one is accessing ICS systems from the internet.

Found some outstandingly intelligent folks on this one!!

Who leaves their plcs industrial network connected to net?

I recall seeing this video before, today 04-12-2024, refresh.

you cant attack some thing that's not connected to the internet ,

The answer to Michael Chertoff's question is in cyber war there are no rules.

Why does this video seem so old?

YEAR:2900 me:“Oh no a pipe broke in our house” dad:”ITS A CYBER ATTACK” Meanwhile in a place far far away…. hampter:”hahah pipe go BOOM!!!!”

Baytown

INTERESTING! 😀

the answer is simple, there are no rules of engagement.

no corporate greed is

If you make a documentary with tense, suspenseful music in the background then whatever it is about is bound to feel like a threat. Humans, especially the kind that would tune in to tis documentary in KZread, are pretty dim and easily influenced - BECAUSE of the music that sets the tone.

17:31 “i dont fully unsee how it works “,then why are you advising anyone regarding it then??

Why even have those networks connected to the Internet?

No compliance is the biggest threat

good news is the best hackers are white hats, hopefully but i'm pretty sure, black hat hackers usually work alone but white hat hackers have more people and resources

HEMP would make cyberwarfare look like a drop in the ocean tbh; if you know, you know.

I wish we can go back to the early and mid 90s one cell phones were only cell phones and Internet was only used for business purpose. Life was goooooood!

The problem is not the hackers, but the quality and maintenance of the software.

Why isn’t critical infrastructure; utilities, military, government etc on a closed network? No iot, no remote access, Closed. We invest trillions. The investment and our security needs to be protected and secured from anyone that is a possible bad actor. Including people with access on the inside. This needs to be addressed like yesterday

"California - one of the most important states" Guess where this dude lives 😂

Interesting to see what comes of the US port cranes being found to have Chinese malware

Who started using stuxnet at another nation's critical infrastructure 1st?

@ricardo-2022

Ай бұрын

What is the problème of this Channel

@flashmedia8953

Ай бұрын

Russian used on Ukraine

@harisjafri9459

Ай бұрын

@@flashmedia8953 Russia used stuxnet 1st?