Hey guys I felt this was an important video for us to make, and I'm really glad you guys like it. We've covered a lot of different cars on this channel and talked to a lot of owners, and the one thing that unites them all is the desire for MO POWAH BABEH! So no matter how your car makes its power, you're welcome in the Donut community. - Nolan

@jjrestomods

4 жыл бұрын

Hi! Do you have any sources that you can share about the amount of CO2 produced when producing an ICE car? Thanks!

@therisensun9277

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Donut crew! I was wondering if you guys could cite your sources for more controversial/political videos like this?

@kyle_vr

4 жыл бұрын

Looks like a bright future!

@crimsonsr20

4 жыл бұрын

Cool video Nolan. Super informative and maybe now people will know that EV vehicles aren't as clean as they think. That they'll stop being smug and pretending their doo dont stink lol. The one thing that I feel got left out, is where EV vehicles get there energy from. All power plants have their downsides. Solar and wind power isn't as clean as you think it is. Look into it. I don't want to destroy our beautiful planet, but I'm really tired of misinformation about "clean" energy.

@_generation_youth_x28

4 жыл бұрын

can i just say they should instead of making new cars, just re fit them with batteries

dude really stood in front of a green screen just so they could make him stand in front of a blue one

@wayedk1040

4 жыл бұрын

But look how evenly blue it is

@themechanic6117

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same..

@ryanmchardy6242

4 жыл бұрын

Uzi Corndog content Brua 😂 lol good point

@ryanmchardy6242

4 жыл бұрын

Wayed K there is a fold in the screen on the bottom right it only shows when he puts a shadow on it

@jacksontheenderman1677

4 жыл бұрын

Did you know that blue screens exist

"turning gas into noise. Im going to get that tattooed on me someday." may i recommend the lower back area?

@jonasr.3083

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@jensenpierre1764

4 жыл бұрын

😆🤣💀

@S42069

4 жыл бұрын

And we can all call it a "champ stamp".

@AngelMartinez-tt1hc

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing! Haha

@purujitpradhan3550

4 жыл бұрын

Good one... Hahahahaj

I'd like to see a part B with the end stage of the vehicles. The recycling of the batteries the recycling of the gas motor versiand just would be interesting

@kadrikarakoc807

11 ай бұрын

you can basically melt an ice engine, and and an ice engine can be used way longer before rendered useless and have to be recycled. so ev probably will lost that comparison.

@orcusdei

11 ай бұрын

@@kadrikarakoc807 nope, for a single reason and that is called math. The recycled battery is used for the NEW car, so you are not putting recycling to the equation of the old car but to the equation of the production of a new car. And since recycling old battery is more environmentaly friendly than mining that shit, the new cars from recycled batteries are way less environmentally friendly than ICE :-) Of course if you throw both cars off the cliff, then obviously EV vehicle will be less environmentally friendly and the whole argument will then be whats worse - old lithium battery in nature or lets say 500 tons of CO2 and poisons in the air.

@DjAled4K

11 ай бұрын

Recycled burned gas?

@orcusdei

11 ай бұрын

@@DjAled4K That is basically Porsche's solution with eFuel. But for eFuel to be produced, you need a massive sustainable energy powerplants. And that's what's cool with sustainable energy - it's unlimited power. In theory, you can build a massive floating rig stretching 20x20 kms on the ocean covered with solar panels and you can "store" it in the form of H2 which you can use to fuel these cars or use for any combustion needed. No need for batteries. All the power from the solar panels go to electrolytic reaction in the ocean, producing H2 and O2. Negatives? The sea can get a little bit saltier depending how much of water you take out of it in the form of H2 - but hey, the good thing is you will be returing it back in the form of clouds.

@SomeRndomGoose

10 ай бұрын

@@orcusdei you can't recycle the battery because it has already lost alot of charge

Excellent breakdown of the pros and cons of EVs. One big issue I see with them is that they’re still not affordable enough for most people even with a tax credit. And on top of that a lot of people don’t have access to charging because they live in an apartment. Someday it’ll get there when the technology matures but not yet.

@mattpierson6100

8 ай бұрын

I just bought a used bolt with a fresh battery replacement for 18k. After the 4k I'll get back from the tax rebate, that's only 14k. Very affordable.

@danielc8818

7 ай бұрын

@@mattpierson6100 wow that is a good deal. Hard to get a decent car for that price. How did you find that? Does that price include the new batteries or did you have to pay separate?

@larrybethune3909

7 ай бұрын

@@mattpierson6100 And, with the cost of a new battery pack, the car becomes like a bic lighter. Just throw it away and get another one once the pack cacks.

@JSchroederee

7 ай бұрын

I think the ice market is setting the price trends. The average new car in the US is ~$45,000, and seeing bottom of the market cars on the road is rare. People complain about the prices but still very few buy the budget option.

@danielc8818

7 ай бұрын

@@JSchroederee yeah that may be true but I wouldn’t consider that affordable. I know lots of people finance way more car than they should and blowout their budget with the payment. And I suppose I should also admit that affordable is relative. I bought my Subaru new in 2015 for 26k. Now the same model and trim would be 30k. For my friend affordable meant buying a used Chevy truck for 10k. While for most people in my area affordable means an Altima or a very used old car like an Impala or similar. And you’re right you don’t often see the cheapest new cars on the road, which I guess proves your point about the trends and mine about financing

Hey Nolan, make the hour long episode, we aren’t busy we’re locked in our houses...

@smundurornmatthiasson7319

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah there are more problems with ev's bc when you need to get rid of the batterys they are just sent to an undeveloped country and into landfills and the harmfull stuff in the batteries will ruin the land

@hectortitan2892

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps an episode of Past Gas on this? Would love to see more on this topic from my favorite car guys. And no Nolan, it doesn't matter that I already heard what you had to say about it here because facts be facts.

@WarriorsPhoto

4 жыл бұрын

It's true. Sadly.

@nuclearbaguette6646

4 жыл бұрын

Smae

@junkiejackflash

4 жыл бұрын

@@smundurornmatthiasson7319 that's why we need to just throw them into the ocean. It's a safe and legal thrill, that the marine life love.

I just realised that my friends presentation for school is the exact same, word-for-word, as this video. Lol

@genericjohn972

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao, smart man

@hueyrosayaga

3 жыл бұрын

@@genericjohn972 umm, you may want to read that comment again. I think it means something more than that guy is "just smart"...

@genericjohn972

3 жыл бұрын

@@hueyrosayaga I'm pretty sure there isn't more to his comment. Maybe there is and I'm not seeing it, idk

@fatblunt3210

3 жыл бұрын

@@genericjohn972 if he said it word for word doesn't that mean that he copied it ? (Probably)

@genericjohn972

3 жыл бұрын

@@fatblunt3210 Ahh, you've failed to see why it was smart of him to do this

Hoping Porsche is successful with their alternate fuel source so we can keep engines for longer

@KingTeobald

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that

@Balisongs-are-cool

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@markfuckerturd5165

11 ай бұрын

Amen

@ab3040

11 ай бұрын

Best way to combate climate change is to keep using the same car for longer Hopefully the fuel cell works

@DarmiGames

11 ай бұрын

Wonder how will the numbers compare then

Why did you calculate the cost of drilling oil but not the mining of coal for power plants or mining of aluminum for wind turbines or processing of silicone for solar panels?

@Sigma_Cat_memes

2 ай бұрын

thank you! finally someone with a functioning brain

@T-Will-4554

12 күн бұрын

Because it all works out to about the same lol there's virtually no difference from the mining/extraction, production, life of vehicle, and death of vehicle. With the onslaught of EV's being produced, it's not helping C02 emissions at all.

@dlzott

12 күн бұрын

@T-Will-4554 did you do the calculation? Cause the math is actually one sided here. Ev is much worse than gasoline cars (which also can be converted to alcohol or natural gas)

Remove both, use horses again

@arctus4272

4 жыл бұрын

Oh sh-

@KTham-li1fe

4 жыл бұрын

Horse farts

@ChickenMusiala

4 жыл бұрын

Ay smart guy buy a horse call him (or her) a Mustang

@guardrailhitter

4 жыл бұрын

@@KTham-li1fe cow farts

@mattiabusi6812

4 жыл бұрын

You can still have a Mustang lol, only with one HP

Y’all at Donut need to get this guy a higher frame rate camera.

@PeperMintification

4 жыл бұрын

why?

@KuyaArbee

4 жыл бұрын

FActs!!!!! His low FPS camera looks so bad lol

@MyOldNameWasTaken

4 жыл бұрын

@@PeperMintification it's something console plebs like you will never understand. I bet you think human eyes only work at 15fps.

@harry-of9oz

4 жыл бұрын

@@MyOldNameWasTaken or shit pc plebs

@twingolord

4 жыл бұрын

Wojciekaz or Mac plebs (this is a self burn)

No matter which is less damaging to the environment, a brand new EV or a brand new ICE car, I still firmly belive that the MOST enviromental thing you can do as a car owner and driver, is keep an old car running for as long as possible, the production of new cars is responsible for quite a large chunk of the emissions no matter how you spin it!

@opoxious1592

10 ай бұрын

The new e-fuels in development has all the good characteristics like regular gas. With the difference that these e-fuels do not consists out of any fossil components, and it's also emission free. And the good news is, that any existing car can drive on these e-fuels with just a small adaptation to the engine. This will be the future. It's clear now by a lot of people, dead the electric car is a dead end. This is also the reason why sales are so low. It's also obvious when you look arround you, or in traffic. If you see a parking lot with 100 cars, at best you will be seeing 3 to 4 electric cars. So i'll will be sticking to my own car.

@omegastudios-minecraft1865

9 ай бұрын

@@opoxious1592the closest thing we have to an e-fuel is hydrogen gas, but the fuel cells are so massive that it leaves barely any space in the actual car. They’re also not very efficient, so you won’t see any car going more than 250 miles on a hydrogen powered engine. Additionally, these cars are very slow, having abysmal acceleration and terrible top speed. EVs on the other hand, do not have any of these flaws. Of course this may change in the future, but as of now EVs are far superior

@opoxious1592

9 ай бұрын

@@omegastudios-minecraft1865 It's not hydrogen gas. It's a synthetic liquid that is colorless, and the car is filled up just like a regular car. It's like gasoline, but it's not made out of crude oil. So it don't need any special "fuel cells" or anything.

@omegastudios-minecraft1865

8 ай бұрын

@@opoxious1592 ah cool, I just looked it up. This could be a very nice solution to our carbon emissions, but I’m just worried about the price. Experts say that by 2026 prices will go down to 7.57 dollars per gallon, which is notably much more expensive than gasoline. On the other hand, electric is far cheaper than both gasoline and Porsche’s eFuel. Electric is probably still the way to go, at least for now

@opoxious1592

8 ай бұрын

@@omegastudios-minecraft1865 The prices will eventually will go down, when they are able to mass produce it on a large scale. So what you say is right, that in the beginning it will be above the avarage price comared to gasoline.

Lots of pretty good info. I seemed to have missed if you added the impact of the oil extraction and refining to the ICE cars (over all or per gallon). From what I have read, that adds about another 5ish pounds of CO2 per gallon that is burned,... or another 2500 lbs a year. (haven't addressed any oils, or other fluids in ICE or their disposal or production either :))

@marlboroman2393

Жыл бұрын

C02 is good it feeds the plants that then create more oxygen

“ICE engine” Internal combustion engine engine.

@tamake4492

4 жыл бұрын

"ASAP as possible!"

@CLK944

4 жыл бұрын

smh my head

@my31and37

4 жыл бұрын

I I noticed noticed that that too too.

@ak19910716

4 жыл бұрын

Inter-City Express Engine, but it's electric.

@The25soumitra

4 жыл бұрын

Ice Ice Baby

Nolan: Ugh those frickin chargers James: MOW POWA BABEHH

@dlnairways3966

4 жыл бұрын

Victor Ancelmo lol

@coltonwatson4907

4 жыл бұрын

DLNAIRWAYS 12 they sounded good too

@amer2142

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@campkira

4 жыл бұрын

well limitation was we can do..

Well done. A couple of things to add...companies like Redwood Materials are recyling over 90% of battery materials today. Also, LPF chemistry batteries are becoming more popular. They use lithium but not cobalt, which addresses the concern about child labor for at least that metal.

@eSstonY99

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry child labor is prevalent on a multitude of other global industries... Which might not be so comforting to know

@lemmyspeaks

11 ай бұрын

The child labor was for the lithium and the cobalt 😂😂😂

@diegocarrillo2360

10 ай бұрын

I think you mean "LFP" right?

@deydraniadiancecht8298

8 ай бұрын

Cobalt is a byproduct of mining nickel so they're still using those same mines, polluting, and exploiting children. So even if they stop using Cobalt, they're using nickel.

@a3dr2

7 ай бұрын

@@lemmyspeaks Child labour does not depend on the type of industry so, by fact, the less materials we use the better. Environmentaly and for child labour also.

Loved the video and the detail. Would prefer citations from your sources in the video (just a visual reference or in the bio would be good). Thanks for the content

"I know you're busy" Busy being jobless and just watching youtube all day long.

@Xsonic378X

4 жыл бұрын

eurosonly I got you up to 69 nice

@salvadorvazquez7291

4 жыл бұрын

@@Xsonic378X Hop in we're gonna go find who asked

@GrandTonka

4 жыл бұрын

@@salvadorvazquez7291 I did. Any problem?

@RealEvo1st

4 жыл бұрын

Salvador Vazquez who tf said you could talk?

@salvadorvazquez7291

4 жыл бұрын

@@RealEvo1st "I did. Any Problem?"

0:02 damn it sounded like Nolan was about to spit some fire for a second there

@niko4628

4 жыл бұрын

Everytime it blows my mind These KZread comments out of line.

Great video man! One thing we have to consider here is that EV production technology is still in it's infancy. The process will get more efficient as the economy of scale gets larger. Also, our power grid is something that will get better over time also. On the other hand, you can't just take oil out of the air and put it back in the ground. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it's stuck in the carbon cycle.

@spark300c

Жыл бұрын

well you can. You grow stuff and bury it. think of all the paper waste we are burying in land fills.

@gregorsamsa1364

Жыл бұрын

One of the dumbest and most common arguments I see is "the power grid can't handle 100% EV's. Checkmate, hippies. Hurr durr." As if the current grid is this static thing that will be as it is for all of time

@w4tt322

Жыл бұрын

The power grid where I live, isn't going to be better. It's simple, most roads are gravel and the ussr still exists on maps were I went to school at. So electric cars? Really? Maybe in the city but everywhere else. Nope.

@josiahfugal5407

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to mention that hydrocarbons are also cleaning up. Unknown to many people, the introduction of fracking has significantly reduced the amount of emissions attributed to the USA. There are plenty of startup research companies looking into making hydrocarbons with carbon harvested from the atmosphere, either biologically or chemically. Having your fuel as a relatively inert liquid which is easy to transport and requires specific conditions to ignite, let alone explode, is pretty beneficial. Having your power plant also produce heat is very good in harshly cold environments, not to mention that basically, as long as you can get the engine turning and the fuel isn't frozen, you can start an ICE. Electric batteries, on the other hand, do not fare well at all once you are well below freezing. EVs are inherently heavier too, putting more stress on brakes, tires and roads. I believe repaving highways is not only a big inconvenience and expense for travelers and taxpayers, but involves plenty of emissions as well. I would place my bet on cleaner oil, not electric vehicles for all these reasons and more. Just because newer tech exists doesn't mean the old is bad. We still use steam turbines all over the place in power generation, even if the heat comes from a nuclear reactor. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Oh yeah, one more thing: Different cars will not make American cities any more pleasant to live in. The solution is fewer cars, and better public transportation. Make downtown cities walkable again.

@MovingUp7

Жыл бұрын

I am a home builder and we have been putting higher amperage service panels in single-family homes to allow for the use of ev's in the future.

I think he needs to redo myth #2 because Cali and Texas are having grid problems to the point that, they are telling you not to charge your car.

@codyerickson3550

Жыл бұрын

I literally said “Bullshit” out loud when he said that. There’s no fucking way our power grid could support that many EV’s. We’d have regular rolling blackouts. Especially since there is absolutely ZERO plans in order to update or enforce this country’s power grids.

@antontaylor4530

Жыл бұрын

@@codyerickson3550 Look, don't be so afraid of EV's. The more EV's in the world, the better. Gasoline is in short supply, whereas minivan owners are not. If every non-petrolhead gets an EV, it simply means more go juice is left for those of us who deserve it, instead of being wasted taking timmy to violin practice or going to buy a vegan mochilatewhatever. Save real fuel for real car drivers. Petrol for petrolheads. EV's for everyone else. That'll result in massively cheaper *real* fuel. I look forward to a time when a V8 costs the same to run as a small 4 cylinder does today. As for whether or not the grid could cope, it could. It *TOTALLY* could. EV's are mostly charged at night, when everyone's asleep and the grid is underutilised. Also, what most people don't understand is that refining crude oil requires massive amounts of electrical energy. To refine a single gallon of diesel/gasoline requires about 7Kwh of electricity. Most EV's can go as far on 7Kwh of electricity as a regular car can go on 1 gallon of fuel. So as EV numbers increase, the refineries will use less electricity, lowering stress on the grid, not increasing it (because as stated earlier, most cars are charged at night whereas refineries run through the day and night). A single refinery uses as much electricity as a small city. And does so 24/7. Add vehicle-to-grid (most EV's are capable of this) and it will *add* stability to the grid. No more rolling blackouts, because the EV fleet will act like a nationwide battery backup. No more paying thousands for electricity during emergencies when the utilities screw the pooch.

@omgitswywy

Жыл бұрын

Came to find this comment, had to pause the video

@haie90

Жыл бұрын

but you can't create energy out of non existence, and energy conversion efficiency is way better for electric cars. although I love ICE, their low thermal efficiency is a major downside compared to EV

@haie90

Жыл бұрын

@@antontaylor4530 people who says EV are bad doesn't know that thermal efficiency exists, and as a gas powered car enthusiasts, I think people overshadowed evs as being cringe liberal science stuffs

Nolan: I know you're busy *100k views in 2 hours Everyone: Yeah not really that busy

@Renee_R343

4 жыл бұрын

Also, partly because it's Nolan, not one of these new guys with no charisma. The dude modding the miata is ok too.

Nolan: those freaking Chargers Also Nolan: nothing matches a V8 turning gas into noise 😂

@djaydeved

4 жыл бұрын

have you heard of the 671 detroit mate? because the detroit engines are pure heavenly noises

@BuildFly

4 жыл бұрын

His car is warranted and the excessive noise outside is not. Like how bikinis in public are warranted when you’re wearing them but underwear is not. Warranted. Consent.

@forest6045

4 жыл бұрын

Sounded like a 5.0

@dreygrach

4 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@ElectrifiedStud

4 жыл бұрын

I think you haven't installed a proper ice (in car entertainment) in your ice car. Ev's can produce any type of noise/muzik, on demand, any volume, etc with an aftermarket kit. All that whilst no emissions to burn your beloved/nonbeloved one's lungs if you please. Plus there's a new segment of aftermarket kits that can be devised just like the good old ice rice cars 😆

Watching this 2 years later and I have a few comments: I think you did a really good job looking at this from an unbiased perspective, however I think you missed out on a couple important points. 1. The batteries on EVs wear out. These batteries will need to get replaced multiple times throughout the life of an EV. Judging by the fact that the majority of EV emissions come from the battery manufacturing process, I feel like accounting for this would change the numbers a lot. These batteries don't last nearly as long as reliable gasoline engines, which can run for hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues. 2. The power grid concern you denoted as a myth actually has a lot of merit. There was a recent heatwave in California. Because of this,home owners tend to use more electricity on air conditioning. This alone was enough for the state of California to request their residents not to charge their EVs because they couldn't provide enough power to do so. They also requested residents to set their thermostats to 78 degrees or higher in order to conserve power. This is ridiculously hot and not at all a reasonable request.

@notDestroyer

Жыл бұрын

I was going to point out the same thing with the electric grid downing/restrictions in CA! A lot more work would have to be done to prepare the electric grids for electric cars.

@ChristineTurner

Жыл бұрын

The other thing that wasn't noted was the reduced battery function in colder states or countries like Canada, where everything east of British Columbia is a frozen tundra for 4-5 months of the year. That harsh weather is going to kill the battery life & efficiency and cause even more frequent replacement, and that's just based on basic use of the vehicle, not counting the fact that you NEED the heat on and that's going to burn more battery power. So many factors to consider...

@ricksilvas855

Жыл бұрын

That's a great point but there have never been a shut down of the power grid in California and probably never will be. They do warn there might be certain areas that get shut down for a while but it's not the like the entire grid would ever be shut down. To this day California had never had the grind shut down as mass. Texas on the other hand is another can of worms.

@notDestroyer

Жыл бұрын

@@ricksilvas855 not a total blackout but a brownout warning for 10 straight days that prohibited normal life and transportation for those with EVs

@ricksilvas855

Жыл бұрын

@@notDestroyer lol that's not true at all... what city or cites are you talking about? I have not experienced and power outages due to demand ever here in my city.

"The power grid could handle it if 25% of cars were electric tomorrow." I'd like to see the source for that, considering that the electric grid in some places already can't handle the current load. Rolling blackouts are common in California, and starting to happen in other states as well.

@UrAvgRetail

Жыл бұрын

The majority of the grid is not anywhere near as strained.

@frederickthesquirrel

Жыл бұрын

@@UrAvgRetail Yet

@meanmutton

Жыл бұрын

EV charging pulls about as much power as a home A/C unit. You tend to use the A/C units during the day, charge EVs at night. Quite a few companies have incentives for people who only charge their EV at night.

@halnogaies1256

Жыл бұрын

There is a problem with Ca's power grid that involves the lack of funding for its maintenance.

@UrAvgRetail

Жыл бұрын

@@halnogaies1256 California is a fringe case the majority of the USA has much less stress on their grid and could easily handle electric cars. We needed nuclear power in CA but it’s gone now

Nolan: “that’s if they drive the national average of 11,800 miles per year.” Me: laughs and cries in 30k plus a year...

@DraconicWasTaken

4 жыл бұрын

Laughs in 47kmi/yr

@frisbe9279

4 жыл бұрын

You're a homosexual

@thatonegamer9547

4 жыл бұрын

I have yet to meet someone that does less than 25k a year

@anangrymanatee8830

4 жыл бұрын

Draconic that’s literally the same as 30k in miles...but go off.

@DraconicWasTaken

4 жыл бұрын

@@anangrymanatee8830 47 k(thousand) miles per year

Nolan: "I know you're busy---" Me: I clicked on this video because the opposite is the case

@Refman42

4 жыл бұрын

Dylan-James Sercy same

@sebastiangrob4813

4 жыл бұрын

That is the joke

@nowammies9986

4 жыл бұрын

And then was wrong?

Funny thing about your electric grid point. Overall the US might be fine but some localities will have issues. CA recently was telling people to refrain from charging their cars to prevent blackouts.

@sinfullv9411

Жыл бұрын

That only mean our power grid is suck and need to be updated. And US is failing behind the rest of the world

@ShapeCZ

Жыл бұрын

And you are not intelligent enough to understand that producing gasoline uses a lot of electricity as well?

A subject you did not cover in this video was the lifespan of an EV battery versus the lifespan of an internal combustion engine.

@katokianimation

11 ай бұрын

Also what is more green, do something with retired batteries or do something with a huge piece of metal?

Living in countryside: annoying rooster cuckling Living in city: Dodge chargers ramming the engine

@usa-ye4ob

4 жыл бұрын

You've not lived in the countryside before have you. People are always speeding down the road on loud as fuck dirt bikes.

@jansen7640

4 жыл бұрын

@@usa-ye4ob that's not nearly as bad as cars passing by 24/7

@butkusfan23

4 жыл бұрын

jansen in some parts of the countryside, its just as bad as living next to a major highway. Yeah, you get moments of quiet, but other times, it seems like every time you want to read a book or take a nap or enjoy the peace and quiet, everyone in the county loads up their 4 wheelers, dirt bikes, and their Blazers/Broncos/Tacomas/Jeeps/Subarus/Trackers that ALWAYS seem to have an exhaust that needs to be fixed, or they took the mufflers off of completely because the damn thing isn’t street legal anyway, and head over to your stretch of the woods or your part of the dirt road to get loud and stupid. It gets old. And if they are on public property or public roads while they do it, cops do nothing about it, so you just have to live with it.

@jansen7640

4 жыл бұрын

@@butkusfan23 oh I get it. Well in the Netherlands everything that's sort of fun is illegal so we can't do anything like driving motorbikes four wheelers etc. In the woods without getting the cops called. So it's really quiet here.

@Acrich1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@jansen7640 well here's the deal its illegal here too but that's what makes it fun and our cops are very lazy here if you're out in the country you're gonna get caught by a sheriff and they'll probably just want a beer.

Finally, something educational and entertaining to do for school

@xehloh

3 жыл бұрын

Facts

@kuldeepsandhu8057

3 жыл бұрын

Ya facts

@undertyped1

3 жыл бұрын

BUT! He hasn't taken into account that the lithium car batteries can be recycled. What is the emissions for a recycled battery for a recycled electric car? hmm?? hmm?? Recycling is in it's infancy along with eletric cars, and they can already recycle 80% of every battery. In the future it will be 20% mining and 80% recycling, so the footprint would be lower from the outset. Who knows the, in the future it could become 100% recycled, and there would be no more mining.

@MrFlame-qe2hv

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr hair product is a really good idea!!

@KrazyKeith4

3 жыл бұрын

But MO POWAH BABEH is the most educational thing I've ever learned

I work at dams in the pacific northwest. Saw a tesla plugged into a welding receptacle on the down stream side. Doesn't get cleaner than that haha

I like it when people are honoust, even if you dont like EVs, you can still keep to the facts and the truth that EVs are better for the environment in the long run. Myself, I own a PHEV. Using almost only the PHEV on battery. For me this is the best alternative for the environment. It has a smaller battery and is easier to produce, still I almost only use the car on electricity.

Day 1: Asking donut media to do an up to speed for Toyota Century.

@yaboierikwithak2179

4 жыл бұрын

William Sampson Ayy that’s what I was gonna say

@user-zc2hz3yj2k

4 жыл бұрын

What about za Toyota Crown?

@Louis8257

4 жыл бұрын

or a B2B

@rossneyman7781

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah but james already said you have to be more creative than asking every day for it since someone did it for the lexus episode

@giaopx

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-zc2hz3yj2k agree, i have a toyota crown and it is awsome

Can we give this man props for how he explains things. He makes it so easy to understand what he’s talking about!

@ayoungtricknamedjim5498

2 жыл бұрын

He deliberately omitted the part where there are massive factories all over the world that have to recycle the batteries. If he was good and unbiased at explaining this topic, he would have explained the *massive* amounts of cO2 that those facilities produce. The omission of that information turns this video into nothing but propaganda. Also, the replacement of the battery packs in the cars. EVs have a much longer lifespan than ICE vehicles due to having far fewer moving parts, so people replace the battery packs in their vehicles instead of buying a new car when the batteries no longer hold an acceptable charge. This means that the cO2 production of the batteries is already at least double per BEV than what he's claiming.

@DH-gp3gp

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 Yes, he never covered what happens to dead batteries and cost of replacing them! My cell phone battery replacement is expensive so I can’t imagine how much it would cost for a car.

@toomuchgyal9083

2 жыл бұрын

@@DH-gp3gp and your cell phone probably has a bigger carbon footprint than your refrigerator.

@toomuchgyal9083

2 жыл бұрын

@@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 and notice how he didn't give a number for the c02 emissions from lithium or cobalt mining? Judt the ethical thought. 17 metric tons for a big EV, plus atleast 2 tons per year? So 37 tons for 10 years? You're getting up there with ice vehicles, and that's not including replacing the battery or from what I here the additional maintenance of EVs, I hear the tires need to be replaced more. And in an electrical world you still need to take into account the emissions from manufacturing solar panels and wind mills, mining for copper or processing recycled copper... I want to do more research on coal emissions vs oil refining. I thought I read that coal is worse, not sure if it takes into account refining of oil or just burning gas. And there is still energy loss in transporting power. Good luck mining lithium, or copper, or anything heavy with an electric power CAT truck. Most likely will have a low range when it comes to hauling or towing heavy material, which means more charging, and therefore more c02 emitted, whether from coal or manufacturing of solar panels, wind mills, hydro power systems. And more solar? = less room for trees and grass that love c02. Not all solar is just on roofs or pavement... edit: and i also read that mining for uranium emits c02, and heating up your home with electricity is tough vs gas, sooo you're probably going to need more juice, therefore more mining and c02 emissions. They say it's just water vapor, but doesn't water vapor heat the earth? And then you're just taking water from resources around you and speeding up that process that's supposedly already happening in our "warm" world. Just like digging for oil and speeding up that process...

@ayoungtricknamedjim5498

2 жыл бұрын

@@toomuchgyal9083 these are the thoughts that are good to ponder. Everyone should be researching this stuff instead of having the EV narrative force-fed and blindly accepting it. One thing I'd mention is that H2O/water vapor actually *cools* the air. Once it reaches a couple of feet from the exhaust pipes, it has a cooling effect :)

i know one thing that can save combustion engines, Biofuels, these are way cleaner to make than regular gas and has nearly no impact on poweroutput, and there is stuff out there that can be mixed with fuel to further make combustion more efficient

Great video definitely helped me with the thoughts about EV versus ICE. Although the power grid side of the argument I am still unsure about.

@dt9913

Жыл бұрын

You should be unsure. Have you watched Planet of the Humans?

Imagine this was the first Donut video someone ever watched and saw a shirtless guy saying ‘mow pawa babhe’ they would have no idea 😂

@ianferreiraian

4 жыл бұрын

That's me right now.

@thomasgeorge5106

4 жыл бұрын

mind explaining it??

@falcon1378

4 жыл бұрын

@@thomasgeorge5106 basically more horsepower/stronger turbocharger or a bigger engine (like the 6 pack) and anything that powers up the livelihood of a car has more power or moh powah babah.

@yo_utub-e

4 жыл бұрын

thats me xD

@yo_utub-e

4 жыл бұрын

@@falcon1378 Oh lol

People: Co2 emissions; Carbon footprintm child labour Cars: V10 go brrrtrtrttt Nyaaaaooooommmm

@christcarsandcountry6812

4 жыл бұрын

Does your EV sound this good, hippie? *happy carbureted V8 noises*

@timmy9796

4 жыл бұрын

what?

@CrazyWeeMonkey

4 жыл бұрын

Old boomers: noo you can't make an SUV get to 60mph in under 3 seconds EVs: EVs go eeeeeeee

@swanauto47

4 жыл бұрын

V10 is better

@timotiusxxxful

4 жыл бұрын

haha Cars go vroom vroom

Whilst looking into this have you looked at the comparison of the impact of a new EV produced this year versus keeping a 10 or 15 year old ICE on the road - I would imagine (but don't have the figures) keeping a well maintained existing ICE car on the road is far better then the production of a new car

@shaynegadsden

Жыл бұрын

That applies to just about all vehicles even ones with pretty average fuel economy, if the enviroment is the primary concern keeping your existing car is better than getting a new one

@starofdavid9919

11 ай бұрын

Makes total sense but will interfere with big car makers profits.

@paulogden7417

3 ай бұрын

Donut’s math: an ICE car puts out 5.2 MT of CO2 per year, an EV 2MT. So 3.2 MT/yr reduction for EV. Now, it takes 9MT of CO2 to produce an electric car. So, if you have your ICE car destroyed and buy a new EV, in three years you have worked off the 9MT of CO2 it took to produce (9/3.2=2.8) and from then on you are producing 60% less CO2 every year (worst case) than your old ICE car. So, buy the new EV. And consider getting one with a smaller battery, such as a Model 3 standard range, as they cost less and have a smaller battery so less CO2 to produce. This means the CO2 break even calculation is even shorter, about 2 years.

@paulogden7417

3 ай бұрын

@@starofdavid9919wrong, see my other comment with calculations.

@paulogden7417

3 ай бұрын

@@shaynegadsdenwrong, see my comment with calculations.

Wow, things have really changed over the three years since this video was made.

@AlansWoodworking

6 ай бұрын

Haven't they just!

8:39 that's a nuclear power plant and the gas coming off the top is just steam. Nuclear reactors are incredibly clean energy.

@boataxe4605

4 жыл бұрын

Until it’s time to get rid of the spent fuel.

@knutearmstrong5252

4 жыл бұрын

@@boataxe4605 spent fuel is a political issue, not a technical one. Using current reprocessing methods we can separate out the fission products which account for over 99% of the radioactivity but only a few percent of the mass. Those isotopes also have very short half lives and only need to be contained for a few hundred years, not 100,000 years. The rest of the spent fuel can be recycled and burnt again. This means a reactor's waste would produce only a few liters of truly harmful waste which can be buried.

@Martink9191

4 жыл бұрын

@@boataxe4605 Fun Fact. 95% of spent nuclear fuel is still located in powerplant.

@boataxe4605

4 жыл бұрын

Martink9191 Fun fact: Chernobyl is so clean the almost 35 years later people still can’t live there. Another fun fact: Three mile island was only minutes away from suffering the same fate. Fun fact #3 Fukushima.

@Martink9191

4 жыл бұрын

@KhakiPeach67 Waste fuel is not reactive anymore. It needs 20% to be littlebit dangerous. 80% clean to be used in bombs. anything that is lower than 0,7 is practically useless. Powerplants uses 3-5% enrichment to produce electricitycy. What happened in chernoble, wherent actual nuclear explosion. it was steam explosion, that damaged the reactor core. Well. i put it that way. Put a sealed cettle onto fire. If temperature increases presure inside increases also. In one point cettle can't hold it anymore and it "explodes". Very same happened in chenoble. To mutch pushing rods made boiling prodcedure extremly fast. "cettle" could'nt stand the inside presure and blowed up. How reaction works? Wel it needs water... Basically you have nuclear fuel. it is harmeles. Add some water and it starts to react. That was the main problem in chernoble. If nuclear fuel would made its way to ground water, extremly fast reaction would have been formed.

Nolan: *damn charger* Me when I see a charger: *REV IT*

@midnighttc.300coninsta7

4 жыл бұрын

Me: SEND IT

@robertparks2933

4 жыл бұрын

EXACTLYYYYY!!!!

@LoserSnoozer

4 жыл бұрын

V6 charger sounds

I appreciate this a lot. I feel like every person I talked to about this has only watched half of the video and made their opinion up.

Having owned an EV for a while now, the inconvenience of having to drive somewhere else and stand outside and wait for my car to refuel seems pretty ridiculous to me. How many of you would put up with a cell phone that you had to take into a store once a week to change its batteries?

@torcanotheminecraftian3949

Жыл бұрын

I have a solution to the long wait time but they hadn't done it yet it's like a propane exchange in a way it would take maybe 5 minutes I swear the first company to do it will make cash

@noahguillen7939

Жыл бұрын

@@torcanotheminecraftian3949 Oh what's this solution? Sounds interesting

@raymondguzman5083

Жыл бұрын

Lmao how ling does it take for your car to charge, it take at most 10 mins to fuel ur car on tour way home or to work, also u cant take long road trips in it cuz you would be wait a long time between charging IF u can find a charging station

@diesixdie

Жыл бұрын

I drive an EV every day, and I don't put up with that, at all. It charges overnight, and has a full tank every morning. It then proceeds to get driven a couple of hundred miles a day. The trick is to evaluate your transportation needs, and pick a vehicle that serves those needs. For me, that's an EV, and @#$# no, I don't wait around for it to charge. I spend about 30 seconds a day, plugging the charging gun in, and walking away to go do something else. Most people spend more time at the gas station than I spend charging my car.

@raymondguzman5083

Жыл бұрын

@@diesixdie ight when u feel like taking it cross country good look cheif

We need sail cars.Sail cars are the future. No powah baby!!!! 😂😂😂

@Jimrlst

4 жыл бұрын

Landsurfing is already a thing, so why not bring it to the roads?

@The25soumitra

4 жыл бұрын

Raghav Varma You can do Sailouts..😝

@The25soumitra

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@bryanlammers384

4 жыл бұрын

BLOW POWAH BABEH

@matthewandrade1893

4 жыл бұрын

Then for people where wind isn't a thing, they can use urine. Its free we all have it.

When do we get nuclear-powered muscle cars

@paulgoogol2652

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. I want to see the nuclear explosions whenever they crash.

@JasonS42

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulgoogol2652 Even if those cars had their own nuclear generator in them (more likely they'd be electric and charged by a nuclear grid), they wouldn't explode. They'd melt down. You'd just have a smoldering lump of steal emitting gamma rays for thousands of years! XD Stop being so dramatic!

@kartikeypant4387

3 жыл бұрын

I'm getting fallout vibes

@jazx7104

3 жыл бұрын

Fallout timeline... I guess 2254? :D but they are fusion based... you CAN blow em up though!

@DTMPROD.

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonS42 if ur not joking ill tell ya its a joke

Old video, but a good one. I learned something new today, thanks man.

People who have a progressbar on their sponsorships should have a guaranteed place in heaven

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED IM DOING A SCHOOL PROJECCT MO POWAAHH BABEYY edit: holy crap thanks for the likes !

@unproductiveworkshop

4 жыл бұрын

Hope the school project goes well!

@NewbyTon

4 жыл бұрын

Weight reduction and weight of the battery will be part of your project And remember that the force needed to accelerate something is mass times acceleration So the more the mass the more energy is needed Plus batteries for cars are at their infancy i think so it's power might get stronger while it's weight can also reduce as time goes on

@2013project_z

4 жыл бұрын

i’m doing one based on which is better for certain situations. gas or ev

@bryanperez2947

4 жыл бұрын

Easy A after watching this

@unproductiveworkshop

4 жыл бұрын

@@NewbyTon Definitely a good point there! Also worth mentioning the emissions and energy required to extract and manufacture some of the materials, alongside longevity/life.

6:15 props to the editors for making the music perfectly sync with the video it was a satisfying detail lol

@lauchlanstill6677

4 жыл бұрын

I watched that 3 times over lol

Concise and informative. Thanks a million for educating me for this important topic!

@matsv201

7 ай бұрын

To bad the conclusion is all wrong, and not even close to be true. For example a EU low emission car (pre 2024) is 92gram/km. The most efficient electric car on the market (tesla 3 and Huyndai Ionic, shared place) will use about 0.18kWh of power from the power-station (grid losses included). The most efficient coal power plant in existence is 740g/kWh.. so that brings the mots efficient car and the most efficient power plan to 133g/km. That is quite a bit more than 92gram/km

I am a residential electrician. I cant comment on the grid, but there are definitely houses that aren't ready for a car charging circuit without a service upgrade or second service. That is 5-20K depending on local code requirements plus an additional 500-2k for the car charger plug and circuit. It could be a hell of a lot more depending on the distance from the panel. For a big apartment building or condo to get a bunch of car chargers could be an incredibly massive project. I am 100% for EVs, just saying.

This video explains CLEARLY and more satisfying to watch than any other videos that I've watched so far related to this matter! Kudos!

@djaxelcarter5777

4 жыл бұрын

I've shared the shit out of it to my PetrolHeads

"this could've been an hour long video" -me, and everybody else on Coronacation: yeah. Thanks for cheaping out

Very well researched and present video. Kudos

Good video, but with the recent requests from the government not to charge electric cars during heat waves due to concerns about grid stability in some areas, I think your conclusion in that area is incorrect, at least for the time being.

“ I know you’re busy and ya ain’t got time for that” Thicc boi we all at home rn

I saw Top Gear’s Richard Hammond wreck an electric supercar, they say the damn thing’s batteries kept spontaneously combusting FOR FIVE DAYS after he crashed it, no way in hell im getting in one of those things

This was super well done! Thanks for doing it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@lootingiv4058

Жыл бұрын

except what about the fact that you have to replace the batteries in the evs.... after 1 replacement you are even to a combustion engine lifetime but you will still have to change it more than a few times... which makes it overall worse....

Here in California our power grid can’t keep up with our air conditioners.

@NeverWoken

3 жыл бұрын

the irony is that heat is generated in order to provide the power for you to cool down the air. absolutely bonkers.

@Sevenspent

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I wonder whats gonna happen in 2035 when California's 14million cars(2019 stats) are EV's in the middle of summer heatwave

@Xeraghusta

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sevenspent bold of you to assume that california will still exist by 2035

@anydaynow01

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sevenspent Yep and they insist on shutting down all their fossil and nuclear base power. I see a lot of power purchasing from Nevada and Arizona in their future.

@OneNidim

3 жыл бұрын

@@anydaynow01 why would they shut down nuclear power? It’s one of the most efficient and green sources of energy to date. I guess just another reason Cali sucks

Day 113 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

@winterspeed6796

4 жыл бұрын

Same.

@captinmurphy1999

4 жыл бұрын

Day 113 of seeing this bs

@Laylowex

4 жыл бұрын

Same👏🏾

@ianholmquist8492

4 жыл бұрын

2 days ago you said it was day 93...

@trevorflanagan4873

4 жыл бұрын

We can still try

Hey Donut Media. I’m doing research for this exact topic for school, and was just wondering if I you had the sources that you used for your information?

9:08 Without forgetting that you are comparing a very powerful electric car with a compact car. Imagine if you compared the Taycan with an Cayenne Turbo GT or this Mitsubishi with a BMW i3 or BYD Seagull

I’m curious where hybrid or diesel cars sit in all of this.

@andream.464

4 жыл бұрын

Connor Hall Hybrid cars are the least efficient: a lot of CO2 is produced during the production of the battery and CO2 is emitted during the life time of the vehicle! Diesel is worse than gasoline because it creates microparticles of polluting agents, which are very detrimental to the public health.

@sacatolasmoreira5593

4 жыл бұрын

@@andream.464 they have particle filters though

@cluelessbeekeeping1322

4 жыл бұрын

They exist, they're just bigger and ride on rails.

@hendrikdependrik1891

4 жыл бұрын

@@andream.464 It really depends on the building year and maintenance. According to Flemmish state broadcaster VRT research 2020 diesels are actually better for the environment compared to their gasoline environment. Indeed it's still true atmospheric gasoline engines are the best, but turbocharged gasoline engines are worse than turbocharged diesels due to the fact they've less filters. Turbos are bad, because they heat up the air so much they literally starting to burn air, or at least the nitrogen part of it. Cars running on CNG are okay with NOx emissions, but worse than diesel with PM emissions. www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/01/08/bijna-geen-verschil-meer-tussen-de-verschillende-type-auto-s-di/ These are the stats of new cars. When cars become older, filters become worse. Some owners even remove filters and catalysts to get more performance. With that in mind long-term turbocharged gasoline is better than turbocharged diesel.

@Henriburger1

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about diesel but I saw in a government report recently that the lifetime impact is lowest for hybrids, even lower than EVs who came second, and gas cars coming in last. I looked for the report again but I can't find it by myself. If you search and find it please link it below so I can bookmark it, thanks lol.

Man, this is the best video at the best time. Im actually doing a school project about this exact topic. Thx for clearance😂

@jg5001

4 жыл бұрын

I did my college report in 2018 about this. We had a minimum 7 minutes of talk time but this topic took me at best 18 minutes to discuss with my backed up sources. Donut needed to bring in source information on screen to make it a bit more credible.

@user-ec6kt2fg7m

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I did it in Uni. nobody knew about it when asked. I called it conflict minerals. I went from phone to cars, to referencing jewelry. I got extra credit, too. Great topic. XD When 7 mins. turn into half an hour and no one is yawning that's a great job right there.

@chris_081

4 жыл бұрын

Think outside of CO2 footprints. What effect do batteries have on the environment in regards to mining? I'm not speaking on the fuel spent by mining vehicles. Think outside of that. Look at what strip mining does to an area. What cobalt mining does to a community. I want electric vehicles to be something viable. However, concern over the longevity of a battery and its replacement concern me as well. What does it take to reproduce a battery. Again outside the box thinking away from CO2 footprints.

@connermay5995

4 жыл бұрын

U got school rn?

@edward2030

4 жыл бұрын

There are numerous things he got wrong

“As time goes on the environmental impact of production will go down…I hope”… I can say the same thing about gas engines.

Hey bro, I really like what you guys on this channel.. that being said, you left out some very important things. Price/ price of maintenance, in the long run, being at the mercy of electric companies, cost of tires, cost of insurance, price of road damage repairs ( that will increase ) pollution from said repairs , recycling EV batteries ? .. What happens when a natural disaster happens? AKA No electric for days. Americans should not have this shoved on us. Their are more reasons..if you want to find, you don't have to make them up.. keep up the good work.

Great explanations. However, at 8:42 in the video, what you showed as emissions from an electric power plant was actually steam from the cooling towers of a nuclear power plant. This steam is no radioactive, but rather it is isolated from any radiation. A lot of people mistakenly show cooling tower steam as scary "smoke" when in fact it is quite the opposite, as nuclear power plants emit very low CO2. They are the type of power plant we should want more of until this nuclear fusion power is figured out.

@samuelmatheson9655

2 жыл бұрын

Because it looks more imposing then a regular power plant

@rolandjacques649

2 жыл бұрын

Yep Americans are very ignorant when it comes to True clean plentiful, affordable and safe energy. France has 75% Nuclear energy, we can learn a lot right there.

@AnthonyMoody

2 жыл бұрын

Fucking thank you!!!!! I hate that everyone thinks those cooking towers are emitting smoke Edit: cooling towers

@mariocamilleri9723

2 жыл бұрын

Good point.... In fact, they actually emit water vapour ! That's a misconception which I always try to address during my Physics lessons !

@darrenlombardi2576

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I have known this since I was young. Nuclear power is way more efficient and cleaner and last longer.

I am literally writing a term paper on this right now.

@aljon5947

4 жыл бұрын

Whats your opinion on it?

@AwesomeAlex808

4 жыл бұрын

Take a 5 hour break

@m_paz

4 жыл бұрын

I did a paper on this a few years ago. Keep in mind battery production carbon emmissions are very over simplified and biased, I sugest you go through the different components of it and come up with an average yourself, there are many papers on this which are more specific and most of them not biased

@qlus

4 жыл бұрын

I also did a project on this last year

@jordanharkema1495

4 жыл бұрын

I wrote on on the topic this semester too. Really interesting stuff

10:44 we look forward to seeing that tattoo brotherman!

Let's see...My batteries must have a recharge. I am waiting in line for the charger and I am ten cars back. Each charge takes about 10 hours. So one hundred hours later I may have a recharge. During the wait time it was either hot or cold and I had no heater or air conditioner. Can't wait to get a battery car!!!

EV: I get instant torque, I'm better for the environment and cheaper on fuel GV: haha me go brap stu stu stu

@huntermacdonald6431

4 жыл бұрын

"And who do you think's gonna win between [saving money] and [fun]?"-Iraq from watchdogs

@callumb5184

4 жыл бұрын

@@huntermacdonald6431 fun

@BARelement

4 жыл бұрын

SV: you should’ve chose me *sad steak noises* (also advanced steam cars didn’t take long to start)

@gilernt

4 жыл бұрын

lmaoo

@Antenox

4 жыл бұрын

@@huntermacdonald6431 Saving money, all day and every day. Never underestimate the motivating power of cheap convenience.

Nice video. I just wanted to add a couple notes for clarification. I work in the utility industry. There are two issues with the power generation and supply for EVs. One is simply we don't have the capacity. I know you said this was incorrect in the video, but the US power grid only has roughly a 10% surplus during peak load. And that surplus is not tangible across the entire grid at any one given time. While it would support a sudden spike in EVs, the grid would be in stretched pretty thin in some areas with high population densities and those areas could experience "brown" or "dirty" power outages. These already occur on occasions when the system is stressed by unusual weather conditions such as those seen in California and New York in the past. There is another related issue. Coal fired or liquefaction plants converted to natural gas are dependent on volume and that volume delivery is directly associated with environmental events. In the middle of the winter, during a severe cold snap, a generation plant my need to dip into the reserve to feed the electrical system, but is unable to because they are not able to get the volume due to the residential customers, high volume and distribution operators drawing down the gas supply before it reaches the power plant. This occurred in the midwest in 2021. The volume of gas available was not enough to supply the demand and the states of Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and parts of Texas had to cycle scheduled blackouts to get the grid back into a stable state. The generation company was forced to mass purchase natural gas that was in storage in order to meet demand at a much higher cost per mmcf. (We knew some folks in OKC that recieved power bills between $3k and $5k for a single month of power, but luckily president Trump issued a state of emergency that allowed the government to subsidize the cost.) Secondly, your recap didn't take into account the infrastructure itself. Transporting the amount of power needed to supply the move to electrical power has been discussed for years, and no one has a sure fire bullet as to what will be needed, and upgrading the current infrastructure could in itself take decades. It's also not economically feasable to upgrade the grid in one step even if you have a good understanding of the future demand because the cost to meet expected demand far exceeds the amount of money the vast majority of operators are capable to generate. I'm not saying that it is an impossible endeavor, just a lot of guys hacking at calculators in a closet trying to get a decent idea as to how much load they will be expecting, and a heck of a lot of money for infrastructure upgrades. Honestly the current EV infrastructure is not much more than those gravity hand gas pumps you find in third world countries at the moment. Imagine what the electrical grid would be required to handle if every gas station you know of only had charging ports. We're talking in the trillions for infrastructure upgrades when we can't even keep our bridges maintained properly. Then there's the lack of taxes for road use ... Third note. Most of the oil that comes into the country is from Brazil. The reason we import is because Brazil has what we call heavy crude. The crude found in Texas, Oklahoma and even Alaska is a lighter grade that takes less refinement, but doesn't have the value of Brazilian crude which is more suitable for producing a broader range of products per volume. I also found your figures a little high there, but I'm only familiar with onshore wells. Most wells, even frack wells can produce for years with hardly any emissions. More emissions are generated off the coast of California and Florida daily in naturally occurring releases. Things decompose, gas and oil are created. It's a natural process regardless of what the environmentalists want to say. I'm not saying that our dependance is a good thing, but I find a lot of times that these numbers are heavily skewed, or in the case of power generation, white lies to draw new avenues for revenue generation. Clarkson did some research on the creation, processing and shipping of lithium batteries used in the Prius. His findings were that the shipping and environmental impact of creating, shipping and assembly in conjunction with use and eventual disposal, generated an equivalent or higher level of emissions over the life of the vehicle then an equivalent gas powered low emission car. I know this was specific to a certain car, but it's also something that should be considered. Does a battery that's shipped 9k miles by a diesel ship create less pollution than a gas powered VW beetle? I can't answer that question honestly. Forth note. Have you ever looked into how we deal with pollution created from creating solar cells and the disposal of wind turbine blades? It should also be considered, especially turbine blades, since well, we can't recycle them in any way and they are piling up. Hydro power, while the cleanest, really causes numerous other issues with the environment. There is no sure fire way to generate electricity today with minimal environmental impact. Those wave generators are interesting though. Just remember, Newton was right ;) Thinking about combustion engines and electrical cars. A plain old metal oil burner can pretty much be recycled from top to bottom. Many of these new EVs are using exotic materials that can't be simply ground down and remelted. We simply don't have a way to deal with the materials currently. Would going to EVs truly solve our problem? Who creates more emissions, a person that buys a fairly low emission oil burner and drives it 200k miles, or a person that buys a new EV every couple of years? If you want to lesson the impact on the environment then there would need to be a stipulation on how long you would be required to retain that EV or have a buyback program to ensure the vehicle remained in service long enough to meet some desired degree of acceptable pollution. We would also need to formally tax, and tax heavily, the power utilized in the charging process to pay for emergency services, roads and infrastructure. There are also other things that people don't consider what about possible electrical shock for police, fire and EMTs? What about training firefighters to deal with the battery cells and the special equipment they will need. If a battery cell is ruptured it could set off a chain reaction that can't be extinguished for days. Top Gear's Richard Hammonds wreck with the Rimnac is a good example. It burned, self reignited and was extinguished continuously for 5 days. An EV fire is a scary thing and currently there are not enough fire departments with the training and equipment to deal with resin, exotic material and large scale lithium battery fires. At any rate, I think that the video was well put together and thought out. I definitely can't fault you for missed points because this is a massive undertaking that we are forcing into motion. I imagine I'll be long gone before everything is sorted out, but I have found the whole thing intriguing to watch. A good friend once said to me "we are all in it together". As I get older I realize just how correct he was when he said it.

@veronikameyers3436

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comments! It's great when someone who actually understands the topic can explain their perspective.

@marcoscasado8698

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS! That's what all these folks doesn't want to understand!

@divad435

2 жыл бұрын

All of these issues you raise can be solved though. Just like there were many issues and problems with extracting fossil fules from the earth, we have come leaps and bounds with that. The same can happen with renewables. Just needs more R&D and for big fossil fuel companies to get out of the way and let it happen.

@mrmckle

2 жыл бұрын

The number of likes under your comment really reflect how narrow-minded most people are. Rather than reading a slightly longer comment which contains valuable information, they ignore it and look for something shorter and easier to read. Always looking for the quick fix won't get us anywhere.

@wasabi_san

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for a good read. I would say that we've come a long way with combustion engine in terms of how we manufacture and recycle its parts. Keep in mind that EV is still at its infancy and given the same amount of time that combustion engine had matured; EV's battery component will find its way to be more efficient and sustainable. Keep using the same technology just because it works is what stifles innovation. Remember there was a thing called the steam engine that came before the combustion engine.

Well made, very informative!

Well done video. I'm not convinced about evs though. Some jurisdictions are telling people not to charge their cars because of electricity demand. The need for battery replacement will be very expensive and I wonder if this nullifies the initial reduced emissions. Other issues as well. Thanks for the great content.

@sa34w

9 ай бұрын

What happens if saudis block petroleum products from US , what happens when supply chain for engines is disrupted. Things can happen both ways, you can run a million mile for the motor if you just change the battery but same can’t be said for ICE

@carultch

Ай бұрын

@@sa34w The Saudis don't have unilateral control over the petroleum supply. Most of the US's oil comes from the Americas.

“The average car in the US goes through about 500 gallons of gas per year” *Laughs in 5.7 hemi*

@thomashuxtable2817

3 жыл бұрын

Lol same *laughs in 5.0 coyote*

@maxxtheender

3 жыл бұрын

could be worse, could have a SRT10 RAM, or have those all caught fire already?

@jalexanderevans

3 жыл бұрын

Get that supercharged 6.2, bruh

@codydunn242

3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in 7.4 😂 😂 😂 aka 454.

@kreizmann2943

3 жыл бұрын

*Laugs in 8.0 W16 Veyron*

"such as wind, solar, and hydroelectric" BOO free my boy nuclear power!

@Simon-nx1sc

3 жыл бұрын

Although nuclear can be clean and safe, to make it safe is incredibly expensive. I wouldn't call it the best new power station to build. Especially economically speaking. (src: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3eTpKWzYNPgfdo.html and extensive wikipedia research)

@DeiKuromu

3 жыл бұрын

Western Europe (except France): We are going to decommission all our nuclear plants! Long live renewables! Also Western Europe: They build new coal plants and pipelines to avoid an energy crisis... Me: *_Why the f***!?_*

@ronnies07

3 жыл бұрын

​@@Simon-nx1sc Also very hairy politically. US has a nuke waste problem stemming from carter's ban on fuel recycling in '77. When you reprocess nuke fuel you end up with plutonium, which has military applications. Having all these reactors for "Peaceful purposes" that conveniently made the magic sauce for mega bombs during the midst of the cold war was some seriously bad optics.

@goganito

3 жыл бұрын

it isn't clean

@MrArjanOskam

3 жыл бұрын

@@DeiKuromu France has now the highest amount of clean energy. Germany planted a million windmills and solar panels. Which kill thousands of birds, destroy enormous pieces of land and make them inhabitable. So you would think Germany is green now? Well, France has like more than twice more green energy, only because of a few nuclear plants. So while France is clean, Germany is mass-murdering birds and other animals.

I watched a talk the other day that was admittedly a few years old. In that talk it mentioned most of the same points that you have mentioned and came to roughly the same conclusions you did. It was however a little harder on the EV's environmental credentials, which might be a function of its age. It's conclusion was that now was not the time to rush out and buy an EV and in fact there was a lot more life left in the ICE. This talk was by no means anti EV, it was 100% behind the idea that EV in some form was the way of the future of transport but it did point out that the technology behind EV was not to a level yet where owning one was actually better for the environment. What it did say though was if you wanted to be environmentally friendly right now, the hybrid was the way to go, with their smaller batteries and EV being used to help at times where the ICE is it's least efficient, i.e., at lower speeds. Thanks for your video, I enjoyed it.

Also the rare earth elements that are mined have to be purified but this leaves radioactive material behind like Uranium.

"i know you're busy" yeah. busy searching for videos to watch on youtube

@yungamurai

4 жыл бұрын

Haha fr man.

@abdulgill5013

4 жыл бұрын

Of coarse, lol

@barracuda6817

4 жыл бұрын

@@abdulgill5013 you're being very coarse

Solid State batteries...that should revolutionize energy storage for years to come.

@nathanlucas2169

4 жыл бұрын

I believe Samsung finally created one that actually works. It's not great but it's a start

@ingeralhaosului

4 жыл бұрын

Liquid metal batteries will revolutionize large scale grid level storage for renewable energy like solar.

@AmplifyAmbition

4 жыл бұрын

Solid state is a pipe dream.

@vwertix1662

4 жыл бұрын

@thevso i present to you, nuclear.

@tsgoten

3 жыл бұрын

VwertIX I like nuclear too, but recently I’ve learned that aside from the toxic leftover, which I can overlook since it produces SO much energy and we can store the toxic waste in Lead containers and such. The biggest issue is actually insurance and cost, no one insures Nuclear plants because the possible payout if something were to go wrong is just too much for them. So taxpayers have to insure the nuclear plants. Also the vast majority of plants are not profitable. I still think we should continue doing research and trying to make it safer so insurance is easier and development costs can also go down.

Nice overview! Also, fueling an EV from coal still results in fewer overall emissions, if you value moving the source of pollution away from city centers. This could save approx 100,000 lives per year.

Thanks 4 this,your knowledge is very appreciated 👍

* depressed Hemi noises*

@emaxxracer9931

4 жыл бұрын

Junior Moreno underrated comment

@hathaway.1166

4 жыл бұрын

WHEEEEEeeeeee....

@matthew_natividad

4 жыл бұрын

*Sad turbo hisses*

@Underp4ntz_Gaming_Channel

4 жыл бұрын

Depressive Hemi Noises and Sad Turbo Hisses aren't going anywhere they will be still around over 50-70 years. Fossil fuel will stay and hydrogen is the future, and probably alongside fossil/bio fuel... in Europe companies are already building a lot of hydrogen pump stations.

@justindesrosiers3145

4 жыл бұрын

**sad knocking 3 cylinder noise**

At the end of the day we are all car guys and we can all agree on one simple fact Nobody likes Honda Ridgelines

@lego4virgo

4 жыл бұрын

Why did this make me laugh! Though to be honest, I'd probably buy a Ridgeline over a regular pickup truck, cuz as much as I love regular pickups, I truly have nothing more than the regular IKEA run or occasional jaunt to the dump, and that'd be a waste of a good truck, IMHO.

@qlus

4 жыл бұрын

@@lego4virgo I'd rather get a cheap Volvo estate

@dougzzzie738

4 жыл бұрын

@@lego4virgo During the recession of 2008 my family could only afford one car so we used a ram 3500 as a grocery getter, wasn't all too bad other than trying to park.

@seanmartin2382

4 жыл бұрын

Lol the guys at The Hull Truth forums love beating that dead horse

@codeman99-dev

4 жыл бұрын

I really like my 2019 Honda Ridgeline! The vehicle is super practical. Spare me the "it's not a real truck", "not a body on frame", and "the towing is a joke" comments. First off, it has a truck bed and is registered as truck. Second, body on frame does not make it a truck. That's delusional. Finally, 5000 towing is really not that darn low. Yes, it is the lowest of the category, but it is just as much as the midsize trucks of the late 1990's. It also compares fine to the around 6700 towing of other midsize trucks. The Ridgeline's payload is fine, so for many tasks you'll be handling the same trailer. Very few people are buying another midsize truck because they actually need a minimal bump in towing.

Thanks for busting the environmental marketing bubble of electric vehicles. Pls continue playing shotgun sound when Nolan adjusts his glasses. 🙂

Love these educational videos! 💪🏾

James: *tattoos Dodge* Noaln: FRICKING CHARGERS!

@topd7566

4 жыл бұрын

just say fucking

@tsinjorasamy3852

4 жыл бұрын

Noaln

@anthnylder8136

4 жыл бұрын

Noaln

@stevenleach6506

4 жыл бұрын

@@topd7566 *demonetized*

Seriously loved this video, glad we can finally put this argument to rest.

@HyperVanilo

4 жыл бұрын

Not until another person make this kind of video

@alannafs4

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure ev abuse won't end anytime soon

@brionwreede9989

4 жыл бұрын

there still a few points that are not covered by the video. like electric semi trucks and if its possible to convert over to them completely. not to mention the oils used in electric vehicles, and if we switched over 100 percent to electric vehicles would it work? for the most part this does get rid of most questions.

@Troy_K

4 жыл бұрын

Amen

@herejust4cars723

4 жыл бұрын

​@@brionwreede9989 Also nolan said Lithium extraction pollutes a lot of water, and then he only compared the atmosphere pollution

9:08 is plain out wrong or misleading. In 2020, a well renowned institute in my country did a complicated calculation for average CO2 emmision per kilometers. They found out that in my country, where 70% of our electricity depends on burning coal and gas, CO2 emission per mileage is only 5~10% better for EVs than Combustion engine cars. Making compensation for larger emission in manufacturing almost impossible (>25years) Where the maintenance for EVs at certain mileage are just over 3x more polluting, making EVs basicallya big ass lie in my country.

reality is humanity can emmit much less pollution by having affordable public transportation instead of arguing what car is better

8:08 RAMCHARGERS!!!

Geologist here! Both lithium and cobalt mining are EXTREMELY archaic, and even if technology improves it still will require huge amounts of water to first dissolve the lithium and cobalts salts to extract them from the ground. In the same vein that the infamous fracking, lithium mining is very bad for the environment (not everything is CO2 emmisions), specially if done poorly. And unless we get REALLY good at recycling all the elements in a battery (specially rare earths), i don't see it as a long term solution for all transportation. It's a nice stopgap and more healthy than gas but nowhere near as "clean" as hidrogen cells could be. Why those aren't being researched more even if today they are far away from profitability is anybody's guess.

@khalilrahme5227

4 жыл бұрын

Hey man I really wanna hear about this more and you seem to know what you're talkin about, any way I could contact you ?

@khalilrahme5227

4 жыл бұрын

Also, how about the disposal of said batteries ?

@mafiousbj

4 жыл бұрын

@@khalilrahme5227 i think you can send DMs somehow via KZread? This is just my silly account so i don't have a page or anything associated to it. And regarding your question, sadly my expertise is on extraction, the completely opposite side of a battery life. But what i can tell you is that even a small AA battery can pollute several liters of water if it ends on a landfill. Therefore, today one shouldn't just throw any battery to the garbage, but always try to recycle them. Some heavy metals like cadmium and lead found in them can be very harmful for humans. With that said, without government incentives, people and companies in many countries just don't have any will to recycle and simply don't do it. So countries like India are environmental train wrecks while others with government programs like the U.S are better off, but still far away from sustainable levels. Since lithium and other materials used in batteries are non renewable like fossil fuels, they could suffer the same fate in some centuries. That's why i call it a good stop gap but not an ultimate solution.

@firstjohn26

4 жыл бұрын

In the 1950's they promised us we'd all have a little nuclear reactor under the hood... Adds new meaning to "blown engine"

@mafiousbj

4 жыл бұрын

@@firstjohn26 the funny thing is...that in 2020 you could! The only problem is what would kill your first: the cost of runnig it or the radiation poisoning? ^^

I wonder if the trend of electric vehicles being less damaging to the planet continues after time passes and they've had the battery replaced a couple of times. BTW I say this as someone who likes both Gas and Electric I'm also not pushing one or the other. Just something that popped in my head watching this video and how it's mentioned that the battery Manufacturing and resource Gathering is the most damaging process of the electric vehicle Manufacturing. I also don't really know how long EV batteries generally are good for

You need to update your video, Texas and California have already told and in some cases stopped EV chargers to prevent blackouts.

Oh Nolan, we have plenty time so you can do a hour episode of this since we are in quarantine

If I have to drive an EV to work so I can drive my SS on the weekend I’m fine with that. I like the idea of EV’s but not the limitations.

@magnom3922

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I'd if they are around i just want to be able to still have gasolines newly produced.

@scottwilson6771

2 жыл бұрын

This is an underrated comment

@thomasmichaelctan

2 жыл бұрын

This would be nice if by 2030 companies didn't have to stop ICE production on vehicles. What an end for petrol heads. smh

@6-Iron

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasmichaelctan Says who? When was this decided and agreed upon by consumers? Demand will decide what is produced. You can’t force an energy transition. It has to be feasible to do so.

@FroggieIII

2 жыл бұрын

By SS do you mean Camaro? Or Commodore? Or something else? Either way, props man!

Even if not better for the envirment , they can't do not have monopoly on the price of the "fuel" that goes in it, and thats also inportant.

That was a cool site! I didn't realize how "dirty" my Mini was!