Are All These Vanilla CEOs A Good Thing?

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Did you know that 12% of Fortune 500 CEOs are Indian? That’s despite Indians only accounting for ~1% of western populations. With that being said, there’s no question that Indians have excelled quite a bit within the world of tech-leading companies like Google, IBM, Microsoft, and Adobe. But, while these CEOs are hard workers and highly talented, are they actually the right people for the job? This question has less to do with their ethnicity and much more do with their background. In general, Indians don’t typically follow the entrepreneur path to get their CEO jobs. Rather, they are master politicians and corporate ladder climbers. In other words, Indian CEOs are eerily similar to MBA businessmen. In fact, most of them do have MBAs even if they have a stem background. This video explores the pros and cons of MBA businessmen and whether all these Indian CEOs are actually good for these companies.
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0:00 - The Rise Of Indian CEOs
2:11 - The Case Against Indian CEOs
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  • @nilaydupare6983
    @nilaydupare69832 ай бұрын

    Even Logically Answered CEO is Indian goddamn

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed hahaha

  • @manhoosnick

    @manhoosnick

    2 ай бұрын

    They have taken over

  • @Adivasi7777

    @Adivasi7777

    2 ай бұрын

    What's his name

  • @Allen-L-Canada

    @Allen-L-Canada

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Adivasi7777 Harry

  • @karthikkhoday5555

    @karthikkhoday5555

    2 ай бұрын

    Or harish

  • @abhiwins123
    @abhiwins1232 ай бұрын

    Also your need to add why founders don't stay CEO 1. Sexual affairs 2. Shady deals during initial stages 3. Exhaustion in dealing with compliance and shareholders 4. Substance abuse Etc

  • @nomad7317

    @nomad7317

    Ай бұрын

    Mc afee haha

  • @amarbir22
    @amarbir222 ай бұрын

    I think there are two main reasons why there are so many Indian CEOs 1) Large workforce is disproportionally Indian/immigrant (Specially in tech). It is a good motivator for the board to place an Indian at the stop seat to keep the workforce aspirationally motivated to grind. 2) Generally speaking Indians are are "Yes" men. a great incentive for a board/founders to put a Yes man. (Read about Larry, Sergey and Sundar)

  • @adityaanuragi6916

    @adityaanuragi6916

    2 ай бұрын

    Here's my take 1) immense population, since India's got a large population there's also a larger probability for anything to happen, China isn't exactly the case as China is also a lot more restrictive 2) Since academic success is a huge thing in India ( and many other Asian countries aswell) the people often try hard so that's another reason

  • @sidhuthesmwgroup

    @sidhuthesmwgroup

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@adityaanuragi6916 you're wrong on so many levels.

  • @adityaanuragi6916

    @adityaanuragi6916

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sidhuthesmwgroup how so?

  • @Number69

    @Number69

    2 ай бұрын

    There would be more Chinese for (2) above - education and in workforce - except many start their own enterprises in China. Most of the science courses have disproportionate numbers of asian students, presumably as they do not go to college to get a degree with poor prospects.

  • @amarbir22

    @amarbir22

    2 ай бұрын

    I forgot to add the most important point, Indians get things done. The lack of creative drive is perhaps being compensated by desire to grind. Although I do see Indians are catching up big time on innovation and creativity, for example CEO of preplexity and many others like him. All stereotyping aside lol. It would be nice to have a future where only thing that matters is your individuality and skill. Nothing else - period.

  • @KimetsuNoYaiba100
    @KimetsuNoYaiba1002 ай бұрын

    Steve Ballmer drove the stock flat for 14 years. Things started picking up only after Satya Nadella.

  • @destructodisk9074

    @destructodisk9074

    2 ай бұрын

    Flat is not bad. However listening to shareholders always has companies succeed mid term. Listening to shareholders also always has companies bankrupt in the long term. Shareholders are in it for the money, not the health of the company. Growth in the near term trumps everything else. Growth is the only thing they care about.. but it is a fact that growth can never be infinite. You will eventually bump up against the walls, which is the phase Microsoft is in right now after many years with Satya listening to shareholders. So now they scramble and panic to squeeze out more profit from anywhere they can. Allow their OS to become riddled with adware and preinstalled third party software. Start turning everything into a subscription. Find every way they can to collect data and sell it. Buy out all the competition they can. The last few years of growth until the walls collapse, the shareholders start selling, and they are forced to shrink, go bankrupt, or sell parts of their business off. Pump pump pump… pop! The Wall Street cycle is always the same. The companies that have managed to stay alive the longest.. are companies that are flat.

  • @akin242002

    @akin242002

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@destructodisk9074 Satya did far more than blindly follow shareholders. He changed the culture in many ways. Balmer was anti-open souce and very "us vs them" leadership. Satya was Pro open source as much as MS can be, worked with Apple to promote O365 to Macbook users, bought Github, and bought Open AI that has changed many things in technologically advance nations.

  • @sa1168

    @sa1168

    2 ай бұрын

    The critique in the video is fairly retarded. Satya revived MSFT and made Azure no.2 Cloud with a different model. Not even mentioning that and downplaying that is fairly myopic. Look at MSFT stock, he is regarded as one of the best tech CEOs out there.. oh but he doesn't make flashy products that don't have commercial success. What a shame! (note xbox never made money for MSFT, and neither did PS for Sony for a long time)

  • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    26 күн бұрын

    In tech, flat is absolutely bad. ​@@destructodisk9074

  • @maxoobbxxx8032

    @maxoobbxxx8032

    5 сағат бұрын

    @@akin242002 Many open source initiatives started under Balmer, he wasn't against it at all.

  • @aelavia93
    @aelavia932 ай бұрын

    Sundar's first response to the question at 8:25 should have been "bro, that's an iPhone"

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @_Mike.P

    @_Mike.P

    2 ай бұрын

    If it has google services on they can still track you.

  • @parshu.9309

    @parshu.9309

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂

  • @SuplexCityF5

    @SuplexCityF5

    2 ай бұрын

    The guy in the video might sound smart but I'm having my doubts that he's not

  • @erabhikdasgupta

    @erabhikdasgupta

    2 ай бұрын

    Ideally google shouldn't know. Each of our tracking data should be encrypted and stored so that only we have access to it. If we have allowed Google to track our movements, it should be done by just tracking the geopositioning of my movements and not attach my name, email, number, age, gender, or racial data to it. Take all geopositioning data without any other data attached to it and put them in a data lake. In that way Google can know someone moved X distance not that I moved X distance. Thats the difference. Its a very simple answer and didn't need more context as Sundar asked.

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol7422 ай бұрын

    As an investor, I don't care about the CEO's nationality as long as they do a good job running the company. As a customer, I don't care as long as they don't mess up their existing products that I use

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed, but do you care if they’re visionary vs vanilla?

  • @itchylol742

    @itchylol742

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LogicallyAnswered As a tech enthusiast, I prefer visionaries because I want cool new products, but as an investor I want vanilla CEOs. I will accept lower returns in exchange for lower risk

  • @sidhuthesmwgroup

    @sidhuthesmwgroup

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@itchylol742 Exactly, that's why nobody knows you as an investor.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Fair enough

  • @Zuranthus

    @Zuranthus

    2 ай бұрын

    @@sidhuthesmwgroup bruh, everybody with stocks is an investor, chill

  • @Papasot
    @Papasot2 ай бұрын

    Bro is the veritassium of the financial space!!! Good job

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @fieryfirevivin

    @fieryfirevivin

    2 ай бұрын

    Veritassium is garbage though

  • @Papasot

    @Papasot

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fieryfirevivin I haven’t seen the latest videos but the old ones are good

  • @manwiththeredface7821
    @manwiththeredface78212 ай бұрын

    I've worked with Indians in the Anglosphere and one thing they know is how to get ahead in a corporate hierarchy, how to manage, who to be close to, who to elbow, who's ego to inflate, how to build their own image etc. Not all deserved that success though...

  • @anonymousperson9735

    @anonymousperson9735

    2 ай бұрын

    You left out scamming investors. That's another thing they're good at.

  • @bunty396

    @bunty396

    2 ай бұрын

    Rahe it from an Indian all these CEOs I come higher castes in India … read Ambedkar for more information

  • @kamartaj3010

    @kamartaj3010

    2 ай бұрын

    And most are bootlickers of their white masters just to get benefits in corporate world. They do the same in india too. Bootlicking the senior to get ahead.

  • @gabbar51ngh

    @gabbar51ngh

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@bunty396Upper castes work hard because they don't have any reservation.

  • @haroldpierre1726
    @haroldpierre17262 ай бұрын

    I am waiting for Dave Chappelle to do a funny monologue about the Indian conspiracy in Silicon Valley.

  • @KRYMauL

    @KRYMauL

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean they're basically doing what China did in the 90s and 00s, but they're not creating an incentive to go back to India like china did.

  • @anonymousperson9735

    @anonymousperson9735

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KRYMauL facts. This is why I'm against legal and illegal immigration.

  • @KRYMauL

    @KRYMauL

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anonymousperson9735 I disagree, there should be a way for illegal immigrants to become citizens. Also, everyone in the US is an immigrant, unless you're native american.

  • @The_DASHER

    @The_DASHER

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@anonymousperson9735 So what's your solution?.To collapse almost all western societies.And being against illegal immigration is very reasonable but why legal immigrants

  • @batosato

    @batosato

    2 ай бұрын

    I would love to see that. HAHA

  • @jberczi6
    @jberczi62 ай бұрын

    Satya is generally regarded as the best CEO working today (maybe outside of Jamie Dimon and Buffet). He's made almost exclusively good decisions after taking over from Ballmer, who did a lot to fuck up the once largest and fastest growing busienss in the world

  • @evancombs5159

    @evancombs5159

    2 ай бұрын

    That really depends on what you are looking for in a CEO. Satya has been very good at being conservative, and focusing on Microsoft's strengths instead of chasing Apple, which was a much needed change of pace. That is great if you are most concerned with producing the most profit today, but it may come at the cost of producing more profit tomorrow. Right now Satya has Microsoft going down the same path as IBM where the consumer side of the business is increasingly less and less important. While being a top cloud provider is likely to be more robust business model than IBMs business offerings, if Microsoft continues down its current path its influence (and thus stock price) will slowly degrade over time until it is just a shell of its former self. Satya was what MIcrosoft needed at the time, but if Microsoft wants to avoid being the next IBM it will need to find a more ambitious CEO at some point.

  • @DevKulkarni

    @DevKulkarni

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@evancombs5159 I believe that you are missing the point of what Microsoft is trying to do. Microsoft thrives more on building products that are specialized. They have embraced the fact that they can never match Google in building products that are for generalized consumer applications. Even the consumer products that Microsoft builds henceforth will not be as widely excepted as say google search they will be diverse and for different consumers with different usecases and ofc the biggest diversity in that is of business applications. That's why Microsoft was dead focused on that.

  • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    26 күн бұрын

    ​@@evancombs5159Windows is still king at PCs. Linux is not going after their market share anytime soon.

  • @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    @AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult

    26 күн бұрын

    Satya is arguably the best CEO in action today.

  • @Play_Streams
    @Play_StreamsАй бұрын

    You gotta love Zuck. Over 20 years at the helm and still has full control of the company. That is BOSS.

  • @mrguiltyfool
    @mrguiltyfool2 ай бұрын

    If you have a visionary ceo usually founders that it becomes casino like. If you have boring mba indian ceo, you got a yes man

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Classic dilemma between abrasive founders and vanilla MBA CEOs

  • @mrguiltyfool

    @mrguiltyfool

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LogicallyAnswered If it is for retirement investment, I want a vanilla MBA ceos. Other than that I want a visionary

  • @4bioshock4

    @4bioshock4

    2 ай бұрын

    Just because the guy in the video sounds smart he might not be actually smart and that's why he's still doing KZread videos 😂😂

  • @anushagr14

    @anushagr14

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@4bioshock4he himself founded an investment platform

  • @marktomm

    @marktomm

    2 ай бұрын

    @@anushagr14 what's the name of the platform🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @neanda
    @neanda2 ай бұрын

    many good points here Hari. It's like once the company has gone through its innovative startup phase, taken all the necessary risks, and has now gone public, the shareholders really just want a safe pair of hands that will do the sensible things and not to rock the boat. Do That was interesting the way nadella said "only if you want me to be CEO", that really does say it all, i bet the board nearly wet themselves at those words.

  • @manhoosnick
    @manhoosnick2 ай бұрын

    I take pride in these Indian CEOs because when we were kids we were only seen as corner shop owners or smelly resturant owners but now it is inspiring us all to see representation at top level ;). Chapati power ftw

  • @Austinkungfuacademy
    @Austinkungfuacademy2 ай бұрын

    This was an awesome piece, and quite informative and enlightening, and something mainstream media would not dare touch, lol! Interesting to term us as American-Indian. Of course, most will understand that you are referring to Desis, not Native Americans. Generally, the ethnicity is first, then American second (eg African American), but I like how you have American first! It helps challenge the "perpetual foreigner" syndrome many South Asian Americans face. At any rate, well done, Hari! This video will blow up!

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Hahaha thanks Santanu! I really didn’t mean for this video to be “inflammatory”, but looks like a lot of people aren’t able to look past the title. Switched the title to be something a bit more vanilla haha. Hopefully future comments will be more insightful and nuanced like yours!

  • @destructodisk9074
    @destructodisk90742 ай бұрын

    Omg the Sundar politician segment gave me flashbacks of last month when I had to get a refund on my car rental, because the booking company (Hopper) booked my car pick-up for 11:30 PM, but the rental company closed at 10 PM (my flight landed at 10 PM). So essentially they had the wrong booking information and hours in their app, of the business they booked me with. I literally spent hours upon hours talking in circles to one guy at an Indian call center that represented Hopper. I must of said “Sir, did your company give me false information on the location’s hours and cause me to not be able to pick up my car when I arrived? A yes or no answer is all I need.”. And then he would constantly refuse to answer with a yes or no, and go on long talks about how they have to work with third parties, and it’s not their fault. He refused to let me talk to anyone else. He refused to talk about refunds and instead would talk about how he could book me with another company for a small fee of $100. After perhaps 4 hours and no progress, I just decided to do a chargeback. Don’t use Hopper to rent a car :-(

  • @SarimAshrafi
    @SarimAshrafi2 ай бұрын

    This is so true. Both Microsoft and Google are really struggling when it comes to innovating new things. They keep cancelling exciting products. Windows Phone was killed, Stadia was killed, Microsoft Surface has not improved, Gemini is still not good. Microsoft even fired Panos who was really passionate about making exciting products. Satya and Sundar are great businessmen but I think they dont vie for innovation and new exciting products.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly this ^^

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m

    @user-xr3rb6pn9m

    2 ай бұрын

    Microsoft is not doing too bad when it comes to AI. For years, Edge was a browser to download Google Chrome and Bing was even more useless than that but Microsoft managed to turn it around. Now I trust Bing AI much more than Google search which is so poisoned with ads you can barely find anything useful.

  • @yami7509

    @yami7509

    2 ай бұрын

    Then where is innovation in iPhone ? I don't think apple ceo is Indian now, is he ?

  • @SL4RK

    @SL4RK

    2 ай бұрын

    Instead of really promising innovations, they make completely unnecessary products like Copilot and try to force their use by introducing them where they are not needed, and then just bury them next to other unsuccessful products, while at the same time the main product that once brought them to the forefront. is often broken and in need of repair, this is the case with windows with its terrible technical condition and android after version 11, where file handling is like a disaster, so slow and horrible that I go crazy when I need to find the right photo....

  • @SarimAshrafi

    @SarimAshrafi

    2 ай бұрын

    @@yami7509 I think the biggest innovation that came from Apple in recent years was their M1, M2... chips. It just changed the game.

  • @diogonunes1608
    @diogonunes16082 ай бұрын

    You're wrong on this one: The Xbox CEO admited to "losing the console war" not because of a good transparency culture, but because Microsoft is changing is business model from Consoles to Subscriptions.

  • @profdc9501

    @profdc9501

    2 ай бұрын

    Such admissions are a way of managing the expectations of investors. They want to justify losses so that they can buy time until there's something else to distract shareholders with.

  • @christiancsq

    @christiancsq

    2 ай бұрын

    The subscription has nothing to do with their failure at all

  • @rowmen

    @rowmen

    Ай бұрын

    Consoles don't matter if you flood all platforms (including playstation) with microsoft games (which call of duty is now included) hehe

  • @okman9684
    @okman96842 ай бұрын

    Actually the biggest problem with biggest company taking risk is that if the industry dusrupts due to their innovation then they will be the one who feel the tremble. For example google is reluctant to integrate AI into search because it could interfere with their entire business model of people scrolling for websites and watching google ads on them. But i think the best way to make big companies grind is to have more and more competition. For example microsoft integrated AI in their search even though they are big company and the changy was huge for a browser but they were the underdog of search industry and any growth or disruption is good because they hold a small market cap and the only way they go is forward. Thats the reason why US aviation industry is lacking because Boeing don't have any insensitive or desperation to innovate while US aerospace industry was in the golden era when there were companies like mcdonnell Douglas, Northrop corp, Grumman corp, Lockheed corp, Marietta were fighting for big market share which lead to many innovation but now they all made peace with each other and kept the industry behind

  • @rocketPower047

    @rocketPower047

    2 ай бұрын

    Found peace = merge

  • @quakethedoombringer

    @quakethedoombringer

    Ай бұрын

    Aviation industry in general also becomes super conservative because: a) Merger acquisition. See the list of aviation companies you just listed? Now, if the DoD wants to design and buy a fighter jet, there are only 3 options. If any country wants to buy a passenger jet, it's either Boeing or Airbus. There is incentive to innovate when you haven't swallowed up your competion b) Jet, especially passenger plane, are an expensive investment, mostly around maximizing safety and comfort and meeting a thousand of other specific regulations. The last time the aero industry truly innovated was when the Concorde came about, and that thing came with so many issues about cost, supersonic boom, cramped space, etc. that it was retired in 2004

  • @Daniel-Six
    @Daniel-Six2 ай бұрын

    This was a great one, Hari. I've been wondering about this for a long time.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @mosesotieno7964
    @mosesotieno79642 ай бұрын

    I've started to learn programming. Whenever you like this reply it'll remind me of my Goal to become a big Tech CEO in Ten years (I'm just looking for likes man ) and become the first Kenya Big Tech CEO

  • @Kushagra.j
    @Kushagra.j2 ай бұрын

    God i hope the comments section will be civil and not resort to petty Name calling and Insulting.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Hahaha, one can hope

  • @gandiashop9391

    @gandiashop9391

    2 ай бұрын

    I will start insulting you. Yellymuscles

  • @Kushagra.j

    @Kushagra.j

    2 ай бұрын

    ​​@@LogicallyAnswered I'm an actual Indian here (Not native American or Indian American 😂) so I hope the responses aren't filled with end up in Paj33t this Paj33t that or even worse.

  • @kowboy702

    @kowboy702

    2 ай бұрын

    You are filled with many faith

  • @Macheako

    @Macheako

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean. It’s a sensitive topic. These are people’s jobs. And us crackers have every single right to be “upset” if they’re artificially giving them to minorities for some perceived virtue on the corporations name. If you want civility, go see a play 😂❤

  • @knightride9635
    @knightride96352 ай бұрын

    Very good video, impressive work. Thanks!

  • @TobiasStarling
    @TobiasStarling2 ай бұрын

    Basically competent and won’t rock the boat. Happens to every business. Start innovative then gradually die and be replaced by managers.

  • @ritwikism
    @ritwikism2 ай бұрын

    What a great video, one of your most insightful since it was not data or information but a smart observation

  • @suprashank
    @suprashank2 ай бұрын

    India 1GB daily Internet is readying up for warfare 😂

  • @honor9lite1337

    @honor9lite1337

    2 ай бұрын

    It's scam.

  • @bankrupt4808

    @bankrupt4808

    2 ай бұрын

    @@honor9lite1337 what the f bro

  • @NISHUGARVU

    @NISHUGARVU

    2 ай бұрын

    It's unlimited now Cry harder 😂😂

  • @SuplexCityF5

    @SuplexCityF5

    2 ай бұрын

    Marc Zuckerberg is a visionery? Seriously? 😂😂

  • @SuplexCityF5

    @SuplexCityF5

    2 ай бұрын

    If the guy in the video would have the smartness to lecture all these ceo's he'd probably be one of those ceo's but he's not. Something to think about before believing anything that he says 😂

  • @momodoescow7582
    @momodoescow75822 ай бұрын

    Nonetheless, for all the young Indians in the West like myself pursuing Engineering, these guys are massive inspirations. They truly show us that despite being immigrants or of a different race, we can succeed & excel like anyone else! Hoping I can emulate the success of Sundar & Satya in the future. Jai Hind lads

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Good luck man :)

  • @arturogonzalez6232

    @arturogonzalez6232

    2 ай бұрын

    They did it off the backs of the “backwards cast” it is classism at its finest. All of these CEO’s come from the Brahmin Caste in India. They are basically the ruling class from india. They don’t do manual labor and are forbidden from mingling woth others of lower caste.

  • @BigBoyJay_69

    @BigBoyJay_69

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. Being a heartless, corporate scumbag isn't just for Westerners!

  • @RahulSharma-jm9ir

    @RahulSharma-jm9ir

    2 ай бұрын

    @@arturogonzalez6232 lol lol

  • @KRYMauL

    @KRYMauL

    2 ай бұрын

    Most people in Engineering are Asian now, it's kind of a joke.

  • @bhoumikparmar2836
    @bhoumikparmar28362 ай бұрын

    Hey Hari, I think for the most part, you are perhaps right. Although it might be the case that as you mentioned about Jobs, Steve and the others who've built the company from scratch first hand, they treated it as their own child & hence thrived for innovation along with growth. Contrary to the 2nd or the 3rd generation CEOs who just want to grow the company doing their job. Also may I know was this calling out to Indian CEOs just a trick to gain more impressions on your content?😂 PS: keep up the good work, love your content!

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks man! Well, I’ve always wanted to make a video about the trend of Indian CEOs. I have dozens of videos exploring the success stories of these guys. So, I wanted to explore the other side as well, but as you probably saw, a lot of people are just reading the title and getting triggered haha :)

  • @profdc9501

    @profdc9501

    2 ай бұрын

    Steve Jobs turned Apple from a corporation into a cult of personality. Looking at Elon Musk, who has only had his own cult of personality tarnished by associating with white supremacists and acting like a spoiled teenager, had Jobs lived he probably would have turned Apple into a state-sanctioned religion. Indian CEOs don't have this kind of charisma.

  • @ydcjydcj1724
    @ydcjydcj17242 ай бұрын

    Shaprabhat to you Hari! Danyavat for making this video.

  • @Puerile.
    @Puerile.2 ай бұрын

    (11:36 onwards) Corporate politics is a big reason why I'd hate to be in a management position or above - it becomes less about your skill and passion on the craft, but your skill on pleasing others, be it your bosses or clients.

  • @noferblatz
    @noferblatz2 ай бұрын

    Just so you know, "American Indians" refers to Native Americans. "Indian Americans" would refer to ethnically Indian people who are American citizens.

  • @brendanwiley253
    @brendanwiley2532 ай бұрын

    For real though my assumption is just that there are a billion Indians and over the years the smart/wealthy/able to become wealthy ones moved to the US and the average/below average ones didn't

  • @brendanwiley253

    @brendanwiley253

    2 ай бұрын

    As for why we don't see the same with the Chinese, communism doesn't mix well with talent

  • @jj55222

    @jj55222

    2 ай бұрын

    How though? The average Asian, that come to America make more than the even Caucasian Americans. Most immigrants from the eastern hemisphere that come to America do great.

  • @aghhhog2655

    @aghhhog2655

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@brendanwiley253the Chinese immigrants got huge incentives to move back to china and start their own businesses*

  • @anonymousperson9735

    @anonymousperson9735

    2 ай бұрын

    They also bring their caste system with them. Which isn't something that's widely talked about or know.

  • @t-.-t.

    @t-.-t.

    2 ай бұрын

    You're absolutely right. Only the best kids from India get to go to the US. Getting a US student or work visa is next to impossible unless you're smart af. It's a given that if you're good at studies you move to the US or UK. India is full of mediocrity or below average kids. This is why there is no innovation coming from India

  • @ShubhamKumar-eq4un
    @ShubhamKumar-eq4un2 ай бұрын

    JAI HIND Lol I have to say it never the less 😂

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @justsomedeadguy439
    @justsomedeadguy4392 ай бұрын

    Wait. Did they change the og title or something?

  • @Sirius_2780
    @Sirius_27802 ай бұрын

    bro, you're really good at explaining!

  • @ZxZ239
    @ZxZ2392 ай бұрын

    Dude, you got balls of steel for making this video, talking anything bad about India/Indian online is brave man.

  • @onetwokaafour

    @onetwokaafour

    2 ай бұрын

    Dafuq are you talking about?! One of the most frequent racism and unfair negative stereotypes are against Indians

  • @phabove7

    @phabove7

    2 ай бұрын

    Na, honest criticism is accepted.

  • @moogly7125

    @moogly7125

    2 ай бұрын

    He himself is of Indian origin.

  • @manh9105

    @manh9105

    2 күн бұрын

    He is an indian himself

  • @FcousFellow
    @FcousFellow2 ай бұрын

    How are you so consistent daily with top notch editing and research?

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Always on the grind brother :)

  • @balpreetsingh6834
    @balpreetsingh68342 ай бұрын

    Great video as always

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you as always Balpreet!

  • @K1Kamikaze
    @K1Kamikaze2 ай бұрын

    American Indians usually means native Americans, not Indian Americans. Very confusing phrasing

  • @mrinaldhami5478
    @mrinaldhami5478Ай бұрын

    You are absolutely correct about Indian CEOs being more like businessman politicians. It has more to do with how our education system has been developed to make us very efficient workers rather than being risk taking entrepreneurs.

  • @niamhleeson3522
    @niamhleeson35222 ай бұрын

    Why wouldn't you sell all of your stock as soon as you could if it was any amount more than $50 million? Money only improves your quality of life up to a certain point. There's absolutely no practical reason to take chances to get 10x $750 million when you can just have $750 million. It's just high score chasing at that point.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Eh, if you’re the CEO of a Fortune 500 company, money probably lost it’s practically decades ago for you.

  • @gopherlee9427

    @gopherlee9427

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@LogicallyAnswered*practicality. And I agree with you.

  • @amirmoradi9595
    @amirmoradi95952 ай бұрын

    Why is Silo not available for Android? 😢

  • @hellslayer9638
    @hellslayer96382 ай бұрын

    Its actually the opposite for big companies , big companies have all the resources and brilliant people who can come up with ideas apple vision pro was an idea , you have factories manufacturers programmers and money and retail solutions to get products into people's hands and correct price what more can a business ever want

  • @matts2488
    @matts24882 ай бұрын

    This is about risk mitigation. Indian ceo is less risk for investors. Innovation takes risk taking, however, so there you have it.

  • @mrtienphysics666
    @mrtienphysics6662 ай бұрын

    This is a very good analysis! I think they will all eventually become IBMs.

  • @demitrishernandez6753
    @demitrishernandez67532 ай бұрын

    When watching the politician question the Google CEO it really leaves me flabbergasted how technologically ignorant politicians truly are 😂 😅 🤦‍♂️

  • @hitmusicworldwide
    @hitmusicworldwide2 ай бұрын

    10 years to 15 years ago. I was telling everybody you should outsource our CEOs as the American CEOs were getting paid too much money to do two little work and it looks like somebody heard me😂

  • @rememberitsallagame
    @rememberitsallagame2 ай бұрын

    Reporting from the UK - we have Rishi Sunak in charge - famously bad at politics 😉

  • @eventhorizon1

    @eventhorizon1

    2 ай бұрын

    Rishi sunak is British! His family moved 100 years ago. So no longer Indian.

  • @davidcu629
    @davidcu629Ай бұрын

    I agree with the idea that each CEO has their own innovative approach, especially when it comes to Satya. Having read his book, I must say that he made some of the best decisions regarding AI and cloud computing. On the other hand, Kubernetes was open-sourced a year before Sundar took charge, and let's not forget that they also let Transformers pass, one of the main technologies of this era. In my opinion, Google needs to go back to its roots of futuristic, crazy ideas, open-source innovation, and mastering AI research

  • @axellaumorales
    @axellaumoralesАй бұрын

    Very interesting perspective!

  • @bananabrainz
    @bananabrainzАй бұрын

    big companies recognise that size and innovation dont mix well. size breeed comfort. thats why theyd rather buy startups, it's just better.

  • @DevKulkarni
    @DevKulkarni2 ай бұрын

    Well if you import Indians you will import a bit of Indian Bureaucracy. Also if your benchmark is Tim Cook, he's a brilliant risk taker. If they are the same Kudos to the Indian CEOs.

  • @profdc9501
    @profdc95012 ай бұрын

    A CEO's job today is largely ceremonial. They are there to be the face of the company and take the fall when the inevitable downturn occurs. For this, they are paid handsomely. They're not supposed to have ideas, make waves, or be leaders. They are the conformist face or a conformist organizational hierarchy, intended to assure investors that the company, like any other public company in any industry, is only an engine that maximizes shareholder value.

  • @abhijitpawar7149
    @abhijitpawar71492 ай бұрын

    Hari, you have got a valid point of discussion. Only bone to pick up for me in your argument is that it is true of ALL MBA type, non-founder CEOs. You are unfairly singling out Indians. You should have instead compared Indian Engineer-MBA CEOs with other non-founder, Engineer-MBA CEOs and then may be go where the results of that comparison take you.

  • @gamingonpotatolaptops1665
    @gamingonpotatolaptops16652 ай бұрын

    Microsoft is the one that really saw potential in small companies that were succeeding like GitHub LinkedIn Azure cloud computing etc

  • @oldie.no.79
    @oldie.no.792 ай бұрын

    Why did you change the title Hari?

  • @prithviraj1080
    @prithviraj10802 ай бұрын

    A crisp and well made video. Google has started to charge for everything since Sundar took over. You hit the nail on the head when you said they mastered politics. Yes, they did.

  • @viorelholhos
    @viorelholhos2 ай бұрын

    That yes sir, we can do it goes a long way

  • @Aha-dm2hq
    @Aha-dm2hq3 күн бұрын

    Here's is the thing about Boeing... Bringing an engineer ceo probably wont fix the problem... Because there are already engineering domain experts working there who are in position to advice the ceo and the CTO is obviously an engineer and he has a lot of experience managing large engineering projects.

  • @Liriq
    @Liriq2 ай бұрын

    I worked at a big-ish company. Founded and built-up by engineers. The business was booming and the employees loved the operation. A hotshot MBA came in. Everyone hates it now.

  • @quakethedoombringer

    @quakethedoombringer

    Ай бұрын

    Did you work at Boeing ?

  • @Liriq

    @Liriq

    Ай бұрын

    @@quakethedoombringer No. Boeing is BIG.

  • @waichui2988
    @waichui29882 ай бұрын

    The US had seen this before. Entrepreneur started the great companies and took them to great heights. Professional managers took over. Used to be WASPS, now Indians. Its the same story.

  • @onetwokaafour

    @onetwokaafour

    2 ай бұрын

    What is WASPS?

  • @zetaforever4953

    @zetaforever4953

    2 ай бұрын

    @@onetwokaafour White anglo-saxon protestants. The dominant ethnic group in the US.

  • @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559

    @unitedstatesofpostamerica7559

    2 ай бұрын

    Disagree WASPs are the founding population of the US. There’s no US without them, they didn’t take over from someone else, they created their own society.

  • @roziroti1998
    @roziroti19982 ай бұрын

    The incumbent dont change unless they are forced by the competition to do so

  • @Hshjshshjsj72727
    @Hshjshshjsj72727Ай бұрын

    How come your mic and vid seem so out of sync usually

  • @marioalexanderski9598
    @marioalexanderski95982 ай бұрын

    You should do a video of companies during the Third Reich Era of Germany

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Hahaha maybe

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet2 ай бұрын

    Indian CEO is a good thing only if your business is already at $100 billion. Otherwise you should just continue with the founders as CEOs. 😂😂

  • @bunty396

    @bunty396

    2 ай бұрын

    True 💯

  • @abhijitpawar7149

    @abhijitpawar7149

    2 ай бұрын

    Would generalize that to a MBA CEO vs Founder CEO

  • @tbraghavendran

    @tbraghavendran

    2 ай бұрын

    Stop being pseudo. Become original.

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy40102 ай бұрын

    Wait, that wasn't the original title 🤔

  • @Omnamahshivay8079
    @Omnamahshivay80792 ай бұрын

    This video answers all the questions everyone thinks , but is too afraid to ask . Having said that, while Pichai has been dubbed as a yes man and with little vision and appetite for risk , it failed to get ontp the AI bandwagon before OPEN AI and chatgpt hit it out of the park. That's because when the ceo has no proper vision and is merely a person pleasing the board , hell only take those steps which will keep the higher ups happy. The massive layoffs at Google was also another indicator , that Pichai has little backbone to the board. Id put Nadella above Sundar, because he's been doing the correct thing, buying up profitable companies before the rival companies do.. Another main reason , why Nadella , Pichai or the other INDIAN Ceos you mentioned, will always be vanilla paper pushers than brash and exciting like say Mark Zuckerberg, is that theyre a lot lot older than Mark. The climb up the corporate ladder had been a slow and almost glacial one for most Indians , and they won't risk what they've worked for vis a vis Mark .

  • @BTotty
    @BTotty2 ай бұрын

    If you come to great America started companies, please embrace those ideals that made the innovation flourish. I see big cultural differences. Not 1 is right, but they lead to different types of outcomes.

  • @hifistuded
    @hifistuded2 ай бұрын

    True there is no out of box thinking just sticking to codes, politics and bookworms.....plus not having same background of studies.

  • @Zuranthus
    @Zuranthus2 ай бұрын

    when bean counters run companies

  • @s3rverlord
    @s3rverlord2 ай бұрын

    I'll agree with you on all the rest of the CEOs except Satya. Satya was not given a choice actually, he was asked to be the CEO make the cloud business a success or he was out. So out of the 3 choices he had the only one he could pick was to become the CEO and make Azure a success. I'm not saying that he is a visionary but I'm saying that he's not been given the freedom to be one. Sundar was a visionary if you look at the products he built but even though he is given much freedom compared to Satya he is showing little promise. I consider most non-founder CEOs Vanilla and it has nothing to do with India. The past few videos are making me go through an existential crisis. The previous video on Product Managers and this one on Indians and I'm an Indian Product Manager lol 😂.

  • @evancombs5159

    @evancombs5159

    2 ай бұрын

    This is very true, most non-founder CEOs are just normal businessmen who went to school to be businessmen. They are businessmen first, and usually nothing more. Their game is money and politics. This is opposed to founders who tend to be engineers, creators, etc. first and businessmen second, more out of necessity than a desire to be one. This means these people tend to be more principled, and less likely to compromise. Businessmen tend to not care unless it affects the bottom line.

  • @goku-ki2to
    @goku-ki2toАй бұрын

    In india taking risk is a bad thing parent dont want their kids to take risk and so kids eventually afraid of taking risk . so you can see this in Indian ceo's

  • @RealLaone
    @RealLaone2 ай бұрын

    But you can tell how focused they are. Even on KZread if you're looking for any tutorial or have a problem looking for a fix, there's always an Indian out there with the solution. It's been crazy to see how big MKBHD is and how MrWhoseTheBoss put in the work and grew over the years to be up there with him. Even Logically Answered, the demographic is a dedicated one gotta admit.

  • @pintuwang
    @pintuwang2 ай бұрын

    Good analysis

  • @ouranosTheos
    @ouranosTheos2 ай бұрын

    Tbh all these companies are actively experimenting with new tech like quantum computers or AI research like transformer from Google. We don't really see it from the outside, but they're constantly innovating. They're more careful about pushing a fully polished product to the market.

  • @ghl19
    @ghl192 ай бұрын

    What I like about you is that you are completely unbiased as you are Indian yourself. And you still do constructive criticism. Respect

  • @solomonlam3157
    @solomonlam31572 ай бұрын

    11:43 Baffling that you used Iger as an example rather than Eisner or Walt

  • @Andrew-xx3wo
    @Andrew-xx3wo2 ай бұрын

    So now the video title has been changed to "Vanilla CEOs..." vs "Indian CEOs..." ? lol

  • @bendybruce
    @bendybruce2 ай бұрын

    I do need to correct your phrasing here. American Indians refers to the indigenous Indian population prior to British colonialization.

  • @henson2k
    @henson2k2 ай бұрын

    Is H1B still a thing?

  • @ItzSneakyMinecraft
    @ItzSneakyMinecraft2 ай бұрын

    i’ve been dethroned

  • @AVYAY-md1vx
    @AVYAY-md1vx2 ай бұрын

    Well they are indeed good at doing what they are asked and will do it perfectly. They are loyal to the investors. Loyalty, duty.. You americans really value such things right?

  • @RavarsenBlogspot
    @RavarsenBlogspot2 ай бұрын

    As a founder, I despise corporate bureaucrats, that if how great companies fall to ruin

  • @debojitmandal8670
    @debojitmandal86702 ай бұрын

    But time cook did exactly the opposite he basically launched 3 successful products apple watch,apple airpods and apple m series silicon although it was not his idea but it contradicts ur point

  • @lelouch9609
    @lelouch96092 ай бұрын

    1:33 🤣 JAI HIND

  • @artbanks27
    @artbanks2723 күн бұрын

    Stock holders are the one in charge and some token indian to fill a space is the best bet for them.

  • @AyushKumar-ij2xd
    @AyushKumar-ij2xd2 ай бұрын

    let me tell you something else about innovation. Do you remember google stadia , no because it got shut down but quite a interesting move. Similarly there are tons of products made or innovated by google /microsoft/fb etc . how google was way behind in gcp but recently did a lot of catchup. See as people we are way more excited for step 1 because its something new but after that it becomes boring . tons of revolutionary features are launched but they remain under the radar as its not shiny. Chatgpt 3.5 was a huge talking point but 4.0 didnt made much heads turn did it.

  • @PseudoProphet
    @PseudoProphet2 ай бұрын

    Don't worry this new breed of Indian CEOs, this time in AI game are all founders.

  • @tbraghavendran

    @tbraghavendran

    2 ай бұрын

    You change yourself.

  • @doublesushi5990
    @doublesushi59902 ай бұрын

    that courtroom video lol.

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    A masterful dodge haha

  • @colinmcdonald6003
    @colinmcdonald60032 ай бұрын

    I saw the first title and thumbnail 😂

  • @choqao
    @choqao2 ай бұрын

    Second logically

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for being early Choqao!

  • @IlyasSahnoun
    @IlyasSahnoun2 ай бұрын

    got a bit concerned when i first saw the title 😅

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay33582 ай бұрын

    Being a Vanilla CEO has its Pros and Cons. They're more willing to thing of company's financial interests, but they rarely put much focus into developing innovation products.

  • @ishaansalian
    @ishaansalian2 ай бұрын

    A KZread channel named live hindi facts has copied your script of (why investors want sundar fired) he just converted your english script to hindi

  • @curious_one1156
    @curious_one11562 ай бұрын

    Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva. Companies are started by Visionary Brahma, they are managed by knowledgeable but lacking vision Vishnu. But, due to stagnation, they must be renewed by Shiva. Who will the Shiva of Google and Microsoft be ?

  • @erabhikdasgupta

    @erabhikdasgupta

    2 ай бұрын

    Its always the people. AT&T, IBM, Nokia, Xerox all had the same fate

  • @rajeshkannan8608
    @rajeshkannan860824 күн бұрын

    What does it mean " Vanilla ceo"?

  • @DK-ox7ze
    @DK-ox7ze2 ай бұрын

    As an Indian, I hate to say this but he's right.

  • @SapphireTvYt
    @SapphireTvYt2 ай бұрын

    Some of your comparisons are convoluted like boing has mba ceo but these most of indian ceo has engineering and management degree both. Do you really think they can't innovate when it comes to just that. Think again how chrome was built even sergai didn't predicted it's success. Its just matter of what board of company wants .

  • @amoughgoyal4986
    @amoughgoyal49862 ай бұрын

    As a Indian student pursuing MBA, I have to say I am deeply offended😫😫

  • @somark28
    @somark282 ай бұрын

    okay, HARI, this title sure is something 🗿🗿🗿🗿

  • @LogicallyAnswered

    @LogicallyAnswered

    2 ай бұрын

    Hahaha :)