Aramaic Q&As: The "Family Tree" of Aramaic dialects

In this Q&A session, we examine the Family Tree, or chart, showing Aramaic dialects and how they are related to each other. We look at how valid that family tree really is, by comparing it to English. We also look at whether Syriac is an appropriate dialect for the Aramaic New Testament to have been written in.

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  • @iberius9937
    @iberius99373 жыл бұрын

    Excellent linguistic explanation on the misconceptions concerning Aramaic. It's the same with Latin: Vulgar, Spoken Latin and Literary Classical Latin were NOT two complete different varieties, but the same language with some slight social variation here and there. It wasn't until the Medieval period that those dialects of Vulgar Latin had separated so much from the educated standard that they ended up becoming the modern Romance languages, later on.

  • @biinpublications2017
    @biinpublications20173 жыл бұрын

    That original initial chart had alot of things wrong with it...Berber is not a Semitic language nor are Greek and Latin...

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius99373 жыл бұрын

    Your Scottish, or Northern Irish accent if I'm not mistaken, is charming as hell and a fresh departure from the typical bland American delivery. I'm a linguist and amateur philologist, and have an interest in the Aramaic language and Its history. Nice video.

  • @user-lv4ov5rp6d
    @user-lv4ov5rp6d3 ай бұрын

    Brilliant.

  • @boxwoodgreen
    @boxwoodgreen Жыл бұрын

    I've read that languages have changed through time at a rate of about 10% per century. I'm guessing that rate has accelerated since the advent of the internet. Has anyone researched linguistic change in the modern era ?

  • @tabor721
    @tabor7217 жыл бұрын

    Aramaic spoken in first century Israel was accurately understood among Parthians, Babylonians, and remotest Arabians. This was testified by Josephus in his preface to Judean Wars.

  • @samisiddiqi5411

    @samisiddiqi5411

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    it was either Ktav Ashurit or Koteb Ashurit, which Moses learned to speak from his father or Grandfather....Ktav Ashurit as attested to by the Jews is in one of their Talmuds...or it was Eastern Syriac...The Aramaic spoken by Jesus and the 12 disciples in the 1st century was Galilean-Aramaic, of the original Assyrian-Aramaic or Ashurit... If the original tests/writings were given to original The Church of the East from the very Apostles of Meshikha (The Messiah)Thomas and Jude (Thaddeus) in the language in which Eshu (Syriac) Ysho (Assyrian-Aramaic or Ashurit)(Yeshua - Hebrew) and His Disciples spoke, wrote, and proclaimed The Hopeful Message of God's Redemption of Mankind. www.thearamaicscriptures.com/

  • @iberius9937

    @iberius9937

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this interesting historical fact.

  • @waqqasabdul5094
    @waqqasabdul5094 Жыл бұрын

    In Galilean Aramaic, is it ‘A’ or ‘O’? Also is it ‘S’ or ‘Sh’? As in Slama, Slomo, Shlama, Shlomo?

  • @ibwithu2
    @ibwithu22 жыл бұрын

    All you need to search is who made the Aramaic the lingua franca of Mesopotamia and you will find out where and who were the original speakers of Aramaic. I'm Assyrian and I know my history. Syriac is derived from As-syriac (Assyrian) silence A which the Greek pronounced it Syria to the land in the east instead of say the whole word Assyria. Aramaic in the Assyrian empire became the common spoken language because it was what the common language of the everyday ordinary people who spoke it which is similar to the more complex Akkadian where it was more of courts or officials and royalties spoken dialect.

  • @abgarukama64
    @abgarukama648 жыл бұрын

    I am Syriac (Western dialect) , I can read the Eastern dialects, it is difficult to be clearly mutually intelligible , but I think with a kind attention, it is possible if each part speak kindly and slowly.

  • @ashur3504

    @ashur3504

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm eastern assyrian would you call your self Western Assyrian or you brain is been washed and you are locked on aramaic aramean suryoyo suryoye Syriac I mean you just called your self Syriac where did that word come from ? I can read yours but I'd take every long time to read a bar I can understand you as long as you speak alil slow

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ashuri , ashurit? Assyrian-Aramaic?

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ashur3504 I was looking at an old map saying Chaldea was a country etc but it appears to me UR was a tribe URUK maybe. The country names were given the Med-ia, ,Assyr-IA , etc by the GREEKS.... as IA and IC are END PREFIXES, loan words,etc have the end prefixes on the end of them, so were more than likely REGIONS ,AREAS, where TRIBES were... dwelled.... who were possessors of that land in that era. They didn't really have borders,border patrols and guards , toll gates, or laws of violating air space in them days so may have been invaded by Hordes whenever they felt like it....

  • @ashur3504

    @ashur3504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@seekthegeek chaldeans were not even from Mesopotamia they migrated into our land sometime between 940-860 BCE so did other tribes sucha as arameans they appeared in the annuals of the assyrian king shalmaneser III during 850s BCE They settled in southern region of Mesopotamia around UR URUK and bawl they were a "group" of mixed people with different nation's who did "magic" witchcrafting and studying stars for zodiac signs and stuff like that, that were not acceptable in our past religion not even in Christianity they made so much troubles between bawl and Nineveh they finally won and controlled Babylon after Nineveh fall and they became an empire for only 70 years and elamites took over let's not forget that chaldeans and not Babylonians helped them to destroy us at the end they destroyed chaldean empire Chaldeans are not a nation they were a group of witchcrafters and magicians plus astronomers They were called kashdim / kasdim / khashidm Bcuz of Persian empire they name lost its meaning After Christianity came Vatican and Romans changed the word into chaldean wtich is Latin with same meaning

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ashur3504 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldea 'Chaldea (/kælˈdiːə/, also spelled Chaldaea (Syriac ܟܠܕܝܐ) was a country that existed between the late 10th or early 9th and mid-6th centuries BC, after which the country and its people were absorbed and assimilated into Babylonia.Semitic-speaking, it was located in the marshy land of the far southeastern corner of Mesopotamia and briefly came to rule Babylon. The Hebrew Bible uses the term כשדים (Kaśdim) and this is translated as Chaldaeans in the Greek Old Testament, although there is some dispute as to whether Kasdim in fact means Chaldean or refers to the south Mesopotamian Kaldu. ===>During a period of weakness in the East Semitic-speaking kingdom of Babylonia, new tribes of West Semitic-speaking migrants arrived in the region from the Levant between the 11th and 9th centuries BCE.Kaldu, a group who became known later as the Chaldeans or the Chaldees.

  • @brittnaycattaneo6015
    @brittnaycattaneo60154 жыл бұрын

    Right

  • @aramean1987
    @aramean19873 жыл бұрын

    6:00 How could Jesus communicate with Abgar U kama if it was not an identical dialect?

  • @nullvoid6095

    @nullvoid6095

    3 жыл бұрын

    They could’ve just had learn each other’s dialects. When Jesus was taken to be executed, a woman understood one of his disciples’ distinct Galilean Aramaic speech.

  • @tialynjordan6088
    @tialynjordan60883 жыл бұрын

    I learned the Lords Prayer in Aramaic but is it the Eastern or Western that Abraham n Jacob n Eshoa spoken uh oh lol

  • @user-jx1qt7yh9y

    @user-jx1qt7yh9y

    3 жыл бұрын

    למדת תפילת האדון בארמית, אבל האם זה במזרחי או מערבי שאברהם ויעקוב מה? رح إدرس سولت رب بآرامي، بس هاد بمكان أو هاد مكان إنه إبرهيم ويعقوب ما؟

  • @jesusspokearamaic5025
    @jesusspokearamaic50258 жыл бұрын

    There are differences between the dialects, but they are also extremely similar. For example if you learn the Syriac Aramaic of the New Testament, it should be relatively easy to understand Biblical Aramaic, especially if someone can point out the minor differences and similarities. Most of the vocabulary will be shared, with some words that are unique to each depending on context. At JesusSpokeAramaic.com Aramaic is viewed as a whole, with small differences pointed out.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    but it was said by a priest of the original Assyrian-Aramaic church of the East in Urhai (Edessa now Modern Turkey) the Syriac translation is wrong...as the original language used was sacred OT scribal language or Old tongue Leshaha Atiqa...the Assyrian - Aramaic or Ashuri or Ashurit... Syriac is a latter dialect of the ancient Ashurit...And what the Christ spoke and read in the NT was Galilean-Aramaic.

  • @Rshtuni-Papikyan
    @Rshtuni-Papikyan4 жыл бұрын

    QUESTION: WHY THE LANGUAGE CALLS ARAMAIC?

  • @shemuelthesabbatian1254

    @shemuelthesabbatian1254

    3 жыл бұрын

    why is english called english? ;)

  • @emmet8933

    @emmet8933

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was a place called Aram-Damascus, which is near modern day Syria, and the language came from there originally? Aram + aic I guess.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    the language of the forefather PERHAPS of the people mention in the genealogy list of Adam,or Noah's sons descendants etc, in the Bible... ARAM the forefather of the Aram-eans...so the language spoken,used would bee name of him and those that spoke it...but the IC on the end is an end prefix, loan word from the Old greek or Latin...Meaning they were the possessors of that particular language..

  • @aramean1987
    @aramean19874 жыл бұрын

    I'm Aramean. West and East have even foreign words.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    can you be a friend and tell me all you know about the REAL Assyrian History or translate the Assyrian TV guy talking about Christ? Ysho Msheekah...

  • @aramean1987

    @aramean1987

    3 жыл бұрын

    The truth is that today Assyrians are not the real ancient Assyrians. This group was created during colonial times as a political movement. We identify ourselves as Arameans. My people are very uneducated about their history. In fact, they don't know the difference between Akkadian, Sumerian or Babylonian, etc. This is a sign of a brain disorder.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh my....@@aramean1987The last Assyrian I spoke with didn't seem to be a retard! :) As for being uneducated about their History, this guy seemed to know it :) I see that in the word ASSYRIA, there is an end Prefix - IA - which is an old Greek or Latin LOAN word... I read most today aren't true Assyrians as they've gone over to the other side - Become Christians i.e like Roman Catholics etc :) I Need to know more about Assyria..:)

  • @aramean1987

    @aramean1987

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@seekthegeek ​ I wouldn't say retards but illogical thinkers. I have friends and cousins calling themselves Assyrians. The Assyrians were extinct in 612 BC. In Isiah God is telling us that he will destroy the Assyrians along with other nations. Assyria is only a region belonging to the Kurdish people now. My old ancestors would have called the Kurdish people Assyrians because they make up the whole region now. It does not make them ethnically Assyrians! The Arameans from Assyria left the Church of Antioch and then later joined the Romans. Over time, they lost their knowledge about their heritage and adopted the term "Assyrian" and they even changed the name of their Church. We don't know what the Greek term "Syria" or "Assyria" means or where they came from, but there are many theories out there.

  • @aramean1987

    @aramean1987

    3 жыл бұрын

    I made this slide. You can see that Syrian/Syriac means Aramean. aramean.github.io/arameans/

  • @matthewpruitt1887
    @matthewpruitt18873 жыл бұрын

    Jesus is walking the earth.

  • @seekthegeek
    @seekthegeek8 жыл бұрын

    On the family tree,shouldnt Sumerian be the FIRST?? Then the Akkadian, Phonecian/Punic,Caananite,which later developed into the Hebrew we know of today?' As these peoples the Sumerians,were invaded by another peoples,who adopted their language,customs,traditions,religious system/beliefs,then OUT BRED the ORIGINAL peoples of that GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION, later on claiming themselves as the the ORIGINAL peoples of that region??? Supposedly, a linguist in the know,claims there was never any Syriac, Arabic, Celtic,Punic,etc language as they have the IC or IA - an end prefix attached to the end, originating from the Olde Latin and given to it as it needed an easy means of identifying who was speaking what.The ORIGINAL peoples of that geographical location in that era, spoke a language,and IC means the possessors of that language.

  • @emmet8933

    @emmet8933

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sumerian is a language isolate. This means it did not descend from a common ancestor to the Semitic languages, so it doesn't really belong on the Semitic family tree.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emmet8933 regardless, Sumer (/ˈsuːmər/) is the earliest known civilization in the historical region of southern Mesopotamia (now southern Iraq), emerging during the Chalcolithic and early Bronze Ages between the sixth and fifth millennium BC. It is also one of the first civilizations in the world, along with Ancient Egypt, Norte Chico, Minoan civilization, Ancient China, Mesoamerica and the Indus Valley. And in the bible ALL men gathered unto one place, a desert region in (on the plains of) Sumer (or Shinar). Yes, Sumerian was a non-Semitic and non-Indo-European agglutinative language isolate. The term "Sumer" is the name given to the land of the "Sumerians", the ancient non-Semitic-speaking inhabitants of southern Mesopotamia, by THIER SUCCESSORS, the ==> East Semitic-speaking Akkadians

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emmet8933 the Akkadians came in,inbred them out but used their language etc to advance themselves,supposedly,then the Babylonians did similar to them...Akkadians adopted then adapted as did the Babylonians of them...So Sumerian was a root yet as you said not Semitic....

  • @nataliee5501

    @nataliee5501

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are the olmecs, the sabaeans, the ugarit and ANCIENT Mesopotamian. The Babylon were the annunaki, from sargon the great 24th century BC. This is the ebi nari, Hebrew. The entire Levant was peaceful for billions of years until, molech his son nabu and the sons of david. We call them Zionist today that created judahism Roman christianity. Hitler was one.

  • @seekthegeek

    @seekthegeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nataliee5501 okay great info! Cheers! The ebi nari, Hebrew.or the descendants of HEBER or Eber in Genesis.Will check on this one "The Babylon(ians) were the Annunaki"(people,those of of Annu) as some of them were Human beings, people - As the bible clearly states they were Men,gathered unto one place,who said "Let us call ourselves by a name - have a nation(al) name -.i.e.the Babylons or Babylonians...Then the people were scattered all over the Earth..." In case we are scattered all over the Earth" in the ancient Assyrian-Aramaic or Ashurit manuscripts - The Lshana Atiqa,Lshana Supprayah...

  • @kdon7023
    @kdon70233 жыл бұрын

    the images on the graph are fuzzy and difficult to read.

  • @ashur3504
    @ashur35044 жыл бұрын

    I have same bad news for you son I'm assyrian eastern native speaker and your infos are kinda wrong even the map of Language you showing is wrong again I AM a native speaker

  • @samisiddiqi5411

    @samisiddiqi5411

    4 жыл бұрын

    Okay we get that you are. Now can you explain why they are wrong?

  • @ashur3504

    @ashur3504

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samisiddiqi5411 1st off we not semitic we older then Semitic they came from us 2nd akkdian Assyrian lol Sumerian is older than akkdian came then Assyrian and they all from the same family which is Sumerian Babylonian aramaic that's different language it's called Chaldean lmaoooooooo hahahahah there's no sucha thing called Chaldean Babylonian is same as assyrian just different accent just like American and Canadian Ethiopian came from aramaic not Arabic Arabic came from aramaic 75% of Arabic is aramaic I can speak that too just in case The language was not called aramaic Jewish called it aramaic and the word is very bad it means kafr in Arabic it means bad people Jewish hated assyrians period so they called them that specially in North Israel And Syriac is aramaic aramaic is older Languages changes you already know that The word Syriac means Assyrian it's actually Assyrian And it has 2 different dialect Western assyrian and eastern What's the difference? We have different font of writing "font" same alphabet same language we can understand each others obv lol And we have 2 types of speaking the one now days we speak in our life it's not complete half is Turkish half Arabic half Persian we have words from these Languages but the other type which we call it biblical is only used in books it's different than the one we speak (((((((samee Language)))))) but biblical is the right way And he said western has neo aramaic again I just told you that means it's not the same we speak like bible that's what it means Samaritan aramaic yeah true they came from us they came from assyria aka Iraq that's right He said eastern has classical Syriac lol it's not the language son it's the font again which is this look ܐ ܒ ܓ ܕ same goes with western the haveclassical which the same as us exactly the same we use this so we can read Easley what we are writing if we use our own fonts it takes us time to read New testament pashita written in Syriac ofc then what in Arabic you dummy Syriac is an eastern dialect 🤦🏻‍♂️ Syriac is the nameeeee of the language..... Eastern and western are dialects that doesn't mean they are whole different languages I'm assyrian eastern I speak eastern dialect UR of Chaldeans suck my dick Chaldeans are not a Nation they ate assyrians it's just a nameeeee matter of fact they were called khashidm It means magicians Greeks Romans Vatican called them Chaldean they gave them this name which gives the same meaning but it's in thier language was given for them in 1552 This guy is pissing me off his information are wrong Western and eastern was mixed among Jewish both were spoken bcuz we can understand each other's Hebrew for us assyrians is not an actual language it's a dialect from our old Language mixed with akkdian and what you people call aramaic This is so wrong lool The word Syriac came from Greeks etc again To brake our nation down Syriac asyriac Assyrian In my language" suraya asuraya ashuraya Now you know what's wrong everything 🤷🏻‍♂️ People made it super complicated so they hide our Nation Jewish hates us long story but now you know

  • @coolandrew951

    @coolandrew951

    4 жыл бұрын

    ashur Hi khon, I’m assyrian, and his splits are wrong, so ur right, but I think just take it easy on the swearing, we are Christians. Khilee libookh

  • @ashur3504

    @ashur3504

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coolandrew951 shlama aziza pakhlti but I don't like wrong information how many people now learned wrong info and they will teach it to others wrongly and the problem with be on us not them just like how they divided us in akkadian Sumerian Babylonian assyrian chaldean aramean Syriac aramiac Surat surath suryoyo etc even our church's tho we all the same people But yeah you right excuse my language khon

  • @coolandrew951

    @coolandrew951

    4 жыл бұрын

    ashur all good khon, yeh I hate this stupidity they make it seem like we are 700nations when it’s one people and one language but people decide to call themselves names that have no meaning to them

  • @danilaird8360
    @danilaird83604 жыл бұрын

    They are all the same- British, Canadian and "American" English are all the same. Embarrassing? I am from the USA and I love my country. No need to be so rude, buddy. We are not "American" anyways, we are European. My ancestors are-were all Italian, Scot-Irish and Romanian. Nobody is "American" lol Yeshua was Jewish... His language was ancient Aramaic. What does it really matter? The Holy Bible was made so that EVERYONE could learn God's truth... it makes no difference what language it was or is.... God doesn't favor certain people. He wants us ALL to turn back to Him.